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is qtek 9100 faster then qtek s100?

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no way. s100's processor is 412 Mhz, and 9100's processor is officially 195, but actually is 185. so, s100 is twice as fast as 9100 :!:

U have to remember that the 9100 is a dual core processor.

so?

Mhz does not usually mean faster. Take Intel and AMD for example. Even though Intel has higher clock speed, it is not faster than AMD.

Just to drive that point home, at work a client started an unofficial benchmarking of systems, and results include
- an AMD Athlon64 3000+ at 2GHz, single core, single CPU... let's say this machine's speed is '1'
- an Intel Core Duo T2400 at 1.83GHz, dual core, single CPU... it's almost 2.5 times as fast.
That said, the OMAP may be dual core, but it's not 'dual core' like desktop/notebook processors. The two cores each specialize in different parts. You might notice that, for example, it's easier to multitask on these chips - while video playback won't see any performance boost and is likely to be slower.
Depending on your needs, your mileage may vary.

Omap 850 go 195 Mhz because it's downgraded by HTC for safety reason (they reply me like that) Processor is only 200 Mhz but for radio is performed by another chip.... i have both and Wizard isn't speed as Magician.

I find Sony Ericsson P900 at 153mhz to be much faster and responsive than any XDA. Although that's probably more to do with Microsoft's sketchy OS than the processor.
I think the Wizard overclocked to 264mhz is much fater at moving around the OS than a BlueAngel at 400mhz, but like someone said above, it's not so good at video playback.

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in this case, my CPU is set to - 264MHZ are there any problems
to stay on this MHZs /battery, cpu lifetime, errors and accidental
shut downs/ ?

To compare use benchmarks (TCPMP for example)

darkheroz said:
in this case, my CPU is set to - 264MHZ are there any problems
to stay on this MHZs /battery, cpu lifetime, errors and accidental
shut downs/ ?
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Hi most people find it more stable at 240Mhz omapclock speed (260Mhz true as measured by sktools) but if it is stable for you - thats cool.
Hey guys this old x-scale vs omap thing has been bashed out numerous times!! Please for our sanity no more!! :wink: Anyhow looks like x-scale is being dropped by intel.

Hi,
I have seen benchmarks on this site, but I dont know in what topic.
In summary, the wizard is almost twice as fast as the magician, and the xda executer is twice as fast as the wizard, I have seen those benchmarks but I dont have the link. Also my wizard proves day after day that it is not slow at all, any game or CPU intensive program runs smoothly just the way you like.
So, dont be misled by the frequency measure, it is unfair to compare two different architectures only with regard to clock speed only, even a small improvement in the cache technology, or the pipeline design could bring massive performance advantages to the system's processor performance.
Regards,
Mohammad

no, the wizard is slower than the magician. i have both so i know. one thing is the processor even though it is dual core (one for pda, one for phone). the other reason is the way the os manages memory, with wm5 using persistent storage rather than having things ready on ram. this is running both without overclock that is.

This is not neccesserly true, maybe wm2003 OS is much lighter than WM5, its like comparing two identical desktop computers one is running windows 95, the other is running windows2000 and claiming that the one that runs windows 95 is faster. From my point of view (as a computer engineer) Benchmarking is the only trustful way to tell.
Another thing is that dual coring the processor has removed the overhead of managing the phone hardware by the main core, and this is definitely an advantage!!!
Another plus for the OMAP processor is that it consumes less power, and we all know that the most important resource for handheld devices is power, afterall, if you want to compare the actual CPU speed you have to run benchmarks on both devices, regardless of how the magician seems to be faster.
So lets search for benchmarks and put what we get here.
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Update:
I found the benchmarks, enjoy!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27512&highlight=benchmarks

i have my 9100 from today (used a s100 for one year.)
the 9100 reacts quicker to start,browsing...
only TT loading takes a few seconds longer

overclocking

hi, is there any way to overclock the processor on the xperia?

By over clocking do you mean take the Xperia beyond its theoretical headline Limit of 528 mhz ?
I have looked at this but the new processor does not seem to be supported by many of the commercial solutions avaliable.
However SpeedBooster posted on the Turbo Speed X1 thread, allows you to set higher processor priority for the programs you choose, giving them a larger slice of the processor pie, its not overclocking as such, but it does make the processor work faster for the programs you choose.
I have used it for a few days with no serious problems, howvere having the processor running faster will drain battery faster, I have noticed this, but it is within acceptable limits for my needs,
I prefer the extra performance over the extra miliage.

Can you do a benchmark and post the results?
Would help a lot to start making a comparison between devices.

Is this what you're looking for:

Some info about Orion processor

Top Eight Features of Orion 1GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 Mobile Processor.
1. Five times faster in delivering 3d content , greater multimedia experience with this processor, you can play 3d games , and you can play video up to 30 frames a second and with the resolution 1080p with High definition clarity. Just imagine what will be the speed of applications used in the processor, we judge processor performance on how it renders 3d content, this orion processor has the capability to render 3d content five times the speed of previous processors.
2. 1080 High definition video encoding is available with Orion, a 1GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
3. Faster CPU speed because this processor uses two A9 cores one with 32 kilobytes of cache and another with 32Kb instruction cache and also it has got a 1MB L2 cache helps the processor to run really fast.
4. Different types of storage options for end users.
6. GPS receiver is embedded with Orion 1GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 that itself a great feature of this processor.
7. On board features are embedded in this processor for Quick Multi tasking.
8. With the help of HDMI chip 1.3a interface this processor two on device display screens with an additional display from tv or monitor.

if the gps is embedded does that mean it should have the same kind of performance as the qualcomm chips when it comes to gps?
i hope that will be the case.

Orion is Exynos now, buddy
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bobloblawsum said:
if the gps is embedded does that mean it should have the same kind of performance as the qualcomm chips when it comes to gps?
i hope that will be the case.
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It's an SoC so most of the things will be embedded.

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1. Five times faster in delivering 3d content [ ... ], this orion processor has the capability to render 3d content five times the speed of previous processors.
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Where does that come from ? faster than which processors ?
I mean the only benchmarks I've seen so far show that depending on the situation it is either on par with the previous GPU (SGX540, adreno 205...), or slightly faster (about 20%) than the SGX540.
3. Faster CPU speed because this processor uses two A9 cores one with 32 kilobytes of cache and another with 32Kb instruction cache and also it has got a 1MB L2 cache helps the processor to run really fast.
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Nothing new here, hummingbird had the exact same amount of cache (although of course there's only one core)
7. On board features are embedded in this processor for Quick Multi tasking.
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Could you tell us more about that please ? It doesn't make any sense to me :-/
what features are embedded, and how do they improve multi tasking performance ?
8. With the help of HDMI chip 1.3a interface this processor two on device display screens with an additional display from tv or monitor.
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Same here, I know the guys from MHL said that SGS2 would have an MHL port, but do you know if we'll be able to use it out of the box, and for what content ? (videos only, or full mirroring for games etc.) thanx !

BlueScreenJunky said:
Where does that come from ? faster than which processors ?
I mean the only benchmarks I've seen so far show that depending on the situation it is either on par with the previous GPU (SGX540, adreno 205...), or slightly faster (about 20%) than the SGX540.
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At about 54:50 in the video he says the GPU is 5 times more powerful that previous application processors.
The video is from Samsung's Barcelona press conference.
http://www.samsung.com/uk/mwc/
Normal usage of the finished released product will show the real performance, benchmarks can be unreliable.

Yeah, but they don't give more information : saying "it's 5x faster" doesn't mean anything if you don't tell people how you came to that conclusion :-/
And although one benchmark on a pre-release product is not enough to say how fast a device is, from what I know I can only say that it is "somewhat faster than hummingbird", but I doubt it will be 5x faster in real life situations.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Orion.pdf
Everything you need to know, yes I know its from 2010 but dont think anything has changed?

madpete said:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Orion.pdf
Everything you need to know, yes I know its from 2010 but dont think anything has changed?
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First time I have seen that and I have been digging around for info, thanks!

AMD!

Hello!
This isn't relevant to hacking but I need to know about the AMD 8120 CPU, as if you guys are hacking windows 8 hopefully you'll be able to help me out here.
I'm building a new pc system but cannot seem to find anywhere on the internet if the 8120 has any sort of intergrated graphics?

Definitely not the right place to ask, but what the hell... the FX 8xxx series does not have any built-in graphics. There may be a low-end graphics chip built into the motherboard, however. Alternatively, AMD does have a line of CPU+GPU combined chips. They run a little underpowered as CPUs (even for AMD), being equivalent to Intel's i3 chips at best and usually not even that. However, they come with quite respectable middle-of-the-line GPUs, and for most games, that's what you need.
If you just need *some* sort of graphics and don't need it to be really gaming-quality, though, then you probably don't need one of those higher-end hybrids. I'd suggest that you look at the products on AMD.com, and do a search for motherboards with integrated graphics on your favorite product-comparison site (Newegg is my usual go-to, but I haven't bought much PC hardware in the last few years).

Adarzannh said:
Hello!
This isn't relevant to hacking but I need to know about the AMD 8120 CPU, as if you guys are hacking windows 8 hopefully you'll be able to help me out here.
I'm building a new pc system but cannot seem to find anywhere on the internet if the 8120 has any sort of intergrated graphics?
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I am an owner of an FX-8120. I can tell you like the last guy did that it doesn't have integrated graphics. It's an 8-core chip clocked at 3.2Ghz stock. Now granted, it may not have an GPU processor on the chip, but you can customize graphic settings to allow the chip to process all of the video rendering. Usually this results in poor performance as GPU chips are alot more efficient when processing graphics. I have a 560gtx and the 8120 clocked at 3.8ghz. I use the GPU to render. Honestly though, you should get a 2500k or an 2600k. I've had nothing but headaches with my 8120. It sucks alot of power, it gets really hot and it locks up quite a bit.

Which cpu is faster? Exynos or snapdragon?

Now before people start rushing in here and saying "well duh, once is 1.9ghz and one is 2.3ghz" you do have to keep in mind it's different architecture. I'm still putting my money on the snapdragon though but I was looking in the 3dmark app and looking at other devices. The snapdragon version clearly beat the exynos version by a few thousand points, almost 3000 to be exact.
The interesting thing I noticed is that looking at the physics/cpu benchmarks, the exynos beats the snapdragon by a decent amount, we're not talking a difference of .5 fps or anything. Looking at the unlimited score, the exynos version is 6fps faster which makes me wonder. Is the exynos cpu better engineered? Or is it because 3dmark is designed to utilize all cores hence 8 slightly slower cores beats out 4 faster cores?
I'm just asking all this since I like having a portable emulator around with me (ppsspp and running fpse with opengl) and am deciding which of the two versions has the better cpu. The graphics department will be good enough for me on either device, and the rest of the specs are identical, so it boils down to the cpu.
TLDR: 3dmark benchmark shows exynos cpu scores are better than snapdragon cpu scores. Which one truly has the faster cpu?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45783875

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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