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3g problems

Hi. Newbie in this forum. Bought an htc tytn from u.s. but am from Phil using smart carrier with gsm band at 1800. after going thru sev topics, properly identified device as Herm200 rom:1.18.255.3 07/22/06 extrom:1.18.255.106 radio1.03.03.10 protocol32.34.7010.01H.
All phone features working perfectly except for 3G. Smart carrier people cannot help. What could be wrong. Vendor says 3g works on 2100 band. Confusing statement. What can be done? Connects to umts but when video call is pressed will not connect.

Which carrier are you on again? Smart Carrier? .. From what I know no carriers in the US support video calling .. Also, Cingular is the only GSM carrier in the US with 3G which runs on the 1900Mhz band ..
also .. what does your phone display while connected "G" or "U" ... what are your phone band settings .. can you also goto dslreports.com/mspeed and see what speeds are you getting ..

According to GSM world SMART (a Philippine operator) uses UMTS 2100, which your TyTN does definitely support.
Have you checked if your SIM card is 3G-enabled? Most 3G networks require special USIMs for 3G usage.
I just learned, that Cingular uses UMTS 850 and 1900 to be exact. According to the American HTC website the Cingular 8525 supports "Tri-band UMTS/HSDPA high speed wireless data network support (2100MHz and 850/1900 MHz), Quad-band GSM®/GPRS/EDGE worldphone".
Does anyone know if there is a special hardware version, that supports UMTS850 & 1900 or will my European TyTN work on those networks, too?

TyTN is tri-band UMTS .. 850/1900/2100 .. so it should work on these networks without any issues ...
And my bad .. didnt realize that you are trying to use the TyTN in Phillipines ..

You should also check, if the called party has a 3G signal, while you call him. Further make sure video calls are activated by your network operator.

3g problems in the philippines
Everything you guys mentioned in order(am in a 3g area calling a 3g enabled party with a 3g sim card). Even the tech staff behind Smart Communications cannot make it work. Displays U and u. But video call cannot push thru even if pic on front camera shows. There is 1 thin line( or command?) stopping it from connecting. My last option is to borrow my friend's unit and see if her unit's 3g works here then it's my device that's a problem. Thnks for the input. Keep it coming.
Herm200 qwerty rom:1.18.255.3
07/22/06
extrom:1.18.255.106
radio1.03.03.10
protocol32.34.7010.01H.

Hi. I don't know how they did it but Smart Communications did it! Apparently and ironically their 3g sim card is not compatible with the htc tytn but their regular sim is. Thanks all.

are u using 3G now in Phil ?
Is there a Globe perpaid 3G simcard ?

3g problems no more
Hi everyone. After my first thread i have finally got everything on my tytn working: 3g, mms, internet, phone. The problem was on the settings. Smart and Globe, the primary carriers in the Philippines can both work on the phone if the settings are right.

sectorlord,
yes there is 3g and hsdpa along with gsm and gprs and wap in the philippines. and yes you can buy globe prepaid 3g sim card.

glad to hear you've got your problems solved jjc!

[3G] Cingular Woes

hey guys im using a jasjar with WM6 (and have tried with others) newest release and even all the WM5 releases. I have my 3G simcard from my shop now. I have configured the phone for GPRS/3G using
Add line: GPRS,3G
wap.cingular
[email protected]
CINGULAR1
Works like a charm .... for GPRS my phone wont display 3G no matter what.
I live in NJ and tried multiple areas such as elizabeth and middlesex. I have also tried manhattan and still no go. I spoke to customer service and had them re provision everything and still NO!
Then some clown says that the only phones that go on the 3G network are firmware locked versions of cingular phones.
now i have 2 universal same issues one is jasjar on is Qtek9000 and i have seen other cingular USA customers on the forums using a universal and on 3g...
whats wrong? its not even letting me see it much less connect to it all i see is "G"

ok after much findings and a lot of searches the jasjar has 2100 while cingular is using 850/1900.
will cingular every use 2100 or is some mod to the radio rom possible? prob not but...

So can anyone advise if its possible to mod the radio rom to make the jasjar support 1900 UTMS?
or is this a hardware limitation?
if same hardware i don't see why it wouldn't be possible
i mean the phone does connect to 1900 for other services in USA why couldn't you hack the radio rom?

Same problem here. I can't understand why there is not a radio hack. What a waste of a good phone.

1wayjonny said:
whats wrong? its not even letting me see it much less connect to it all i see is "G"
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You might already be connected and you don't know. From what I know, the WM6 can't show the 3G icon, it always show G icon even when connected to 3G.
Have you read this thread and tried V2 of the 3G Icon? THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293375
Please let me know if it works on yours. I don't have 3G SIM, but I do have Cingular. Thanks.

You cannot simply do a "radio hack" as that would be like putting a Dodge engine in a Chevy vehicle its just not that simple. Or a square box in a circular hole.
Also I believe the main reason is due to Cing/T Mo have no ownership in the 2Ghz spectrum (Sprint does though). T Mobile will be using the 1700 area for their 3G service which is brilliant as we will not have to colliding networks around the same specturm. However this begs the question on what will happen with unlocked 3G phones in the future.
pink

Mr Pink57 said:
You cannot simply do a "radio hack" as that would be like putting a Dodge engine in a Chevy vehicle its just not that simple. Or a square box in a circular hole.
Also I believe the main reason is due to Cing/T Mo have no ownership in the 2Ghz spectrum (Sprint does though). T Mobile will be using the 1700 area for their 3G service which is brilliant as we will not have to colliding networks around the same specturm. However this begs the question on what will happen with unlocked 3G phones in the future.
pink
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The question is since the universal has 1900 and 2100 band, is umts being pushed over the 2100 band via the os or radio rom or even a setting in the registry. Or is this a hardware setting only.
Jmallen

1wayjonny said:
hey guys im using a jasjar with WM6 (and have tried with others) newest release and even all the WM5 releases. I have my 3G simcard from my shop now. I have configured the phone for GPRS/3G using
Add line: GPRS,3G
wap.cingular
[email protected]
CINGULAR1
Works like a charm ....
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Just wanted to bump this up, in case anyone is still looking. I just got my Universal, and these settings still work for me. (December 2010)

Thanks for this bump, hope will be useful for someone

HSDPA 900mhz

Hi all sorry but Im not real up tpo date with some of this stuff, but I will tri to explain; I have just go a prepaid 3G wireless sim and got it sort of working but the data really is very slow about 30-40k, It is with Optus in Australia and I am in a regonal area I thort it may have been sonthing wrong with my shift but i tried a telstra data sim in it today and it worked at nearly 1600k down and 260 upload.
I spoke to an optus person today and they said it was because the device doesn't have a band for HSDPA 2100MHz/900MHz dual band that optus uses in regional areas is this right? Is there a away to add that setting/band?
Is theere a nother rom with thoses settings? (I am using i00's rom which has been working well)

But here shows it works on optus 2100mhz 3G band.
http://www.onlineshoppingaustralia....ear-htc-shift-35g-next-g-mobile-computer.html

I think it's the 900mhz side of things optus uses in regional Australia that is the problem, and Im 300km the closest place that has a 2100mhz service

Scott's Shift said:
Hi all sorry but Im not real up tpo date with some of this stuff, but I will tri to explain; I have just go a prepaid 3G wireless sim and got it sort of working but the data really is very slow about 30-40k, It is with Optus in Australia and I am in a regonal area I thort it may have been sonthing wrong with my shift but i tried a telstra data sim in it today and it worked at nearly 1600k down and 260 upload.
I spoke to an optus person today and they said it was because the device doesn't have a band for HSDPA 2100MHz/900MHz dual band that optus uses in regional areas is this right? Is there a away to add that setting/band?
Is theere a nother rom with thoses settings? (I am using i00's rom which has been working well)
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The Shift does not have UMTS 900 band (it is Tri-Band UMTS: 850/1900/2100). The speed you say there sounds more like Australian GPRS connection. So, you are probably running your GPRS. What is the icon on your WinMo side - G, E or 3G/H (sorry if I am telling you to suck eggs there)? If it is G or E then you are not using UMTS.
Next G works very well on it (I use mine all the time) and has good coverage. It is on the 850 band so fits in the Shift range. My wife even has one of those Telstra Pre-Paid Wireless Internet USB Sticks. There is a SIM inside that I took out and stuck in the shift to test out because it has better pricing per MB (can not make phone calls on it - so my normal Next G went back in )
Cheers

Yes it is running on gprs and it does tha just the letter "G" there. so it is a hardwear problem? can it be overcome by softwear?

Scott's Shift said:
Yes it is running on gprs and it does tha just the letter "G" there. so it is a hardwear problem? can it be overcome by softwear?
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No . It is hardware only and no software can "make" the physical antenna change its frequency setting (lots of reasons, all very boring and maths based - way beyond me).
The Shift is very capable for the platform, but like almost all "world phones" (ie quad band GSM), it does not have the quad band UMTS. In fact I do not know any quad band UMTS devices (though there probably are some).
If you live in a region outside of "normal" 3G (and note only Telstra has H capability - unless something has changed with the other carriers over the las six months), then Telstra is the only solution at this stage.
Love them or hate them (I'm personnal luke warm), they do have good coverage for the Australian landmass.

thanks, its a pitty that telstra is so expensive they charge $30 for 225meg and optus is $30 for 1 gig

Signal Strength with AT&T and Omnia 2

Does anyone know why my Omnia 2 gets weak signal strength on At&t. I rarely get the 3g network and, at most, get 1 bar. However, the internet works fine and I love the phone but don't know if I need to go to Verizon to get better reception.
Tried At&t support but, other than upgrading the sim card, they won"t do anything with a non-at&t device. And since it was bought before the phone was launched in the U.S. I can't get support from Samsung. Are there some settings on the phone that can be changed to improve reception? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - thanks.
Here's the network specs for the phone: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900 MHz, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA5.76 Mbps

JohnHere999 said:
Does anyone know why my Omnia 2 gets weak signal strength on At&t. I rarely get the 3g network and, at most, get 1 bar. However, the internet works fine and I love the phone but don't know if I need to go to Verizon to get better reception.
Tried At&t support but, other than upgrading the sim card, they won"t do anything with a non-at&t device. And since it was bought before the phone was launched in the U.S. I can't get support from Samsung. Are there some settings on the phone that can be changed to improve reception? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - thanks.
Here's the network specs for the phone: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900 MHz, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA5.76 Mbps
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Try changing your band settings to WCDMA then 850+1900. Works great for my Touch HD T8285.

almost there - thanks
Thanks for your reply. But, after surfing the net I still can't figure out how to change these settings on the Omnia 2, ok I don't know how to do it on any phone. Is this something easily done, and if so, how?

JohnHere999 said:
Thanks for your reply. But, after surfing the net I still can't figure out how to change these settings on the Omnia 2, ok I don't know how to do it on any phone. Is this something easily done, and if so, how?
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Not sure on your phone but on mine go to settings, then phone, then band settings.

no band settings there either
Not that easy. I get phone, then settings, then the options are general, voice call, video call and message.
General sub folders are: call cost; caller id; own number; fixed dialing; auto answer; closed user group
Voice Call sub folders are: call barring, call forwarding, call waiting
Video Call - n/a
Message sub folders are call broadcast message, wap push message, voice mail, send text message options
I tried looking at the connections menu which yields:
My Internet - add a new modem; edit my proxy server; manage existing connections.
Manage existing allows you to change from media net or other connections and when you do that there are no options for changing band. Also if you try to create a new connection there is still no mention of band.
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I am not sure if your phone has 850mhz, as far as I Know the omnia 2 i8000 has 900/1900/2100 compatibility and maybe that is why you are getting so weak signal,

Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.

rob3rtx said:
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
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This is true, I have the GT I8000l version and the band settings are in the Omnia Settings/Network Settings/Band settings menu -- Mine is set to Automatic, though there are other choices including the WCDMA, GSM 900/1800 and GSM 850/1900. You must also enable HSPDA setting as well (same Network menu) and then reset your phone.
I get Great 3G+ / HSPDA speeds almost everywhere around Harrisburg, PA "EXCEPT" in my own HOME location (only Edge ) Just that I am behind a mountain so.....
Anyway, this lack of Home location 3G+ is causing me to place my Omnia 2 (Bell Canada version) up for sale as I was expecting 3G in my own home !!!! (probably going to Ebay this weekend. The phone is great though and the screen (OLED) is INCREDIBLE !!! I am running SPB mobile shell 3.0 (Lite rom installed) so phone is quite zippy without the widget mess though the original Bell rom can be reinstalled. ( I have on DVD ) Really ticked though about the lack of 3G* at home so I may be looking for HD2 or such --and settle for EDGE speed.
Thanks to XDA developers for considering and supporting some Non HTC phones such as OMNIA 2

Not true AT ALL!
rob3rtx said:
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
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I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.

technillion said:
I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
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Chicago might primarily be 1900mhz but Dallas (my home) and probably where the original poster is located is 850mhz so the i8000L from Bell would be a better choice and probably for everyone else so you could never be limited to 1900mhz.

CAL0613 said:
This is true, I have the GT I8000l version and the band settings are in the Omnia Settings/Network Settings/Band settings menu -- Mine is set to Automatic, though there are other choices including the WCDMA, GSM 900/1800 and GSM 850/1900. You must also enable HSPDA setting as well (same Network menu) and then reset your phone.
I get Great 3G+ / HSPDA speeds almost everywhere around Harrisburg, PA "EXCEPT" in my own HOME location (only Edge ) Just that I am behind a mountain so.....
Anyway, this lack of Home location 3G+ is causing me to place my Omnia 2 (Bell Canada version) up for sale as I was expecting 3G in my own home !!!! (probably going to Ebay this weekend. The phone is great though and the screen (OLED) is INCREDIBLE !!! I am running SPB mobile shell 3.0 (Lite rom installed) so phone is quite zippy without the widget mess though the original Bell rom can be reinstalled. ( I have on DVD ) Really ticked though about the lack of 3G* at home so I may be looking for HD2 or such --and settle for EDGE speed.
Thanks to XDA developers for considering and supporting some Non HTC phones such as OMNIA 2
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I loved the Omnia 2 but the lack of Roms and not having xda support (not such much anymore now i guess) made me sell it and go back to my Rogers Magic. I'll probably wait for the HTC Obsession or maybe the HTC Bravo as my next phone i definitely wanna check out Windows 7 when it comes out.

technillion said:
I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
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can you post your network settings?

I've had pretty good reception in the NYC area on 3G for the past 6 months... until today. Now my phone can get 3G and 3g+ reception but I can't get any data over 3G anymore. When I step down to EDGE, I can get data again. iPhone users seem to be fine. Anyone else having these problems in the NYC area?

ATT 3G settings with Topaz O2

Hello,
i've got a Germany Topaz with an original O2 Rom (6.5), and am currently in New York. I've inserted an ATT sim card, and the topaz came up asking whether it should install the ATT settings, which it then did.
I'm able to get a connection fine, but only with Edge, not 3G. The whole greater Manhattan area is 3G covered, so i should be getting a faster connection.
I'm wondering whether there is something i need to do to activate 3G? Anyone have any ideas why i can't get a 3G connection?
thanks.

Doesn't O2 Germany use 900MHz UMTS, not 850MHz & 1900MHz as AT&T? So your Topaz is likely not an 850MHz (& 1900 MHz) UMTS model - will be able to use only GSM.

Ok, thanks for that. But i thought the Topaz has the same frequencies as the Germany Kaiser, and i used that 2 years ago in California, with ATT, and had 3G almost always. Strange.

You are aware that there is a variety of models/frequencies specific to local markets?
What is the model shown under the battery: eg TOPA110 T5362?
Then do a search for that model and compare with the (UMTS/HSDPA, not GSM) specs for AT&T Pure:
eg http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353835,00.asp