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I'm thinking of upgrading my o2 XDA to WM2003, it is currently unlocked and I am using the Orange network (UK)
My current Radio Version is : 4.21.00, with 3.17.03 ROM.
Is it possible to just upgrade the ROM and not the radio stack?
If I do this am I definatley still going to be able to make phone calls once upgraded?
I have NO SD Card at present, but am I right in thinking there is a method of upgrading without an SD card?
And one last thing, if it all goes t1ts up I assume I would be able to downgrade back to my current rom.
Many Thanks
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You can upgrade without the sd card. Just download from jeffs kitchen the .exe and it will upgrade while synched to the pc, it will not affect your radio stack. I would suggest getting an sd card, I backed up my original rom to sd and it has got me out of problems. Scan the rom upgrade pages for all the advice you will ever need on the subject.
I'm aware that this is not realy new subject but reading the forum for last two days did not unswered all my questions and Im a newbie so please dont shoot.
I'm assuming that the my xda site before providing the current upgrade to the OS and radio stack they had tested all these and it should be safe to upgrade as with other softeware. Well I was wrong.
The Program A upgrade went OK but when I almost completed loading Program B I got the screen as I would switiched the phone ON and I was asked for my password. I entered my old passward which was not reconginsed two times after which the device rebooted shownig only top bar and keyboard on the bottom right hand corner. I went ot Telstra to check if this is due to my SIM card got freyed but they changed my SIM card to a new only because they have more up to date with lower Voltage requirement and this did not change a thing.
I've tryed Walloby bootloader but after while it displays "GSM ERROR".
I've tryed the power buuton+directional button+ soft reset which gets me to the 4 options
CE ROM TO SD
BOOT TO SD
CE+BOOT TO SD
GSM ROM TO SD
But when I select any of these using the directional button I get that the Card key has failed (I have 64MB MMC card that I bought some time ago and I have or had quite a lot of staff on it). I wander if all this is still t=here as my card reader/writer is asking to insert the card which is already there. I would not mind to get to my old software which had problems but was working or anything to get XDA back on line.
Please help I can not work without my XDA.
New Radio Stack and Telstra + Bootloader
I am running the latest O2 radio stack 4.21 on telstra fine. I used the O2 installation file off their site letting it do the Radio Stack and the O/S. Then I later upgraded the O/S using the SD method, and the Siemens SX56 AT&T branded WM2003 rom image.
With regards to getting yours back up and running - have you tried the "bootloaderfix.bat" file in XDAtools? (make sure you are conencted via activesync when you run it - and dont panic if you see an error message)
Also - you can use XDAtools to copy the Radio Stack image or new ROM image directly to your MMC card. Once bootloaderfix.bat has fixed yor boot loader to 5.15 ust whack in the MMC card with the image - run the bootloader and it will detect the new Image and ask you if you want to install (calls it download) it off the card.
Hope that helps. I spent about 6 hours researching all the above - hope to save some others the time
New Radio Stack and Telstra + Bootloader
Thanks Janos,
I will try the SD method but I have a problem with your suggestion as my Actvesync presently is not recognising XDA. I hope that XDAtools will help.
Would you suggest to use the original or XDAtools -Jeff.exe?
Regards
Rdio Stack
hi,
MY PHONE HAS GSM ERROR IN BOOTLOADER. DOES ANYONE HAVE GSM ROM. ALSO WHEN I PUT IN THE CHARGER, THE CHARGING LAMP DOEN'T TURN ON.
I CHECK ON DEVICE INFORMATION AND SEE THAT rOM VERSION:
3.17.03 ENG
ROM date 05/15/03
Radio Version: Not appear
Protocol version: not appear
DOES ANYONE CAN HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. MAYNY THANKS.
HI,
HOW TO copy the Radio Stack image TO SD CARD? THANKS
janos wrote
Also - you can use XDAtools to copy the Radio Stack image or new ROM image directly to your MMC card. Once bootloaderfix.bat has fixed yor boot loader to 5.15 ust whack in the MMC card with the image - run the bootloader and it will detect the new Image and ask you if you want to install (calls it download) it off the card.
i can't radio rom in ur sd but u can copy repair.zip to sd ........... no way to upgrade radio via sd u must us pc monitor ans Rs232 ......... what's hell that mean ?......... use repair.zip .........guy
Hi all,
From my experience, and reading through this forum through long time, when you have "GSM Error" on the bootloader screen, don't try to go any further unless you are expert in soldering and you have a Jtag ship interface. The RSU part controls the ROM and the charging circuet, so it's better to get it repaired by a qualified person.
I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
Seif said:
I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
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Bro, you shouldn't change the Sd fat you erased what's written on it anyway your unit is still on the safe side and you can bring it to normal.
First of all downgrade your bootloader to 5.15 >>>
goto this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
rafia said:
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
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You need XDArit to write the rom to your SD read the past post on how to copy rom to your SD which is the safest way of installing the rom into the device, by using XDAtools press on FIX BROKEN BOOTLOADER this will downgrade you bootloader to 5.15 don't forget to connect your unit to the cradle when you want to downgrade.
I recommend 1rst of all to make a quick search in threads to be totaly ready for this
this would help :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6581&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2068&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
Good Luck now.
Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
Good Luck and special thanks to Biso for his help.
Re: Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
Seif said:
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
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Thanks a MILLION for this info. I'm in the same boat, with bootloader 5.22. One question though, when I'm in bootloader mode, which option do I choose from the menu to transfer the ROM to my device from the SD card? Will there be something automatically coming up? Or will I use one of the options listed below:
1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE + BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD
5. CE + GSM TO SD
By the way, so I never do anything to ruin my device again, can someone please explain what each option does?? I really don't have a clue.
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
Linger1974 said:
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
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First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
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Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?
Linger1974 said:
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
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Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?[/quote]
Why to worry about the Rogers Rom you know now a way to unlock your phone.
I assume the Rogers rom is based like the At&t rom which it has the sound clipping bug , so I'd rather say that you could cook a T-mobile rom 4.01.16 WM2003 and try it it does not have the sound clipping bug..
So, ive read post after post on performing this task and it is still beyond my capabilities. My wallaby is running ppc2002, rom version is 3.20.06, radio version 4.21.01 protocol version 32s54. It's running bootloader 6.22, i havent got active sync, xdatools wont run due to missing dll's or some such thing. Have a 1gig sd and a 512mb mmc,,,,
How can i upgrade with this setup? visited rom kitchen (awesome site) and cooked up a rom, extracted NK.nbf,
Need help! Surely i can upgrade with this equipment,
http://www.romkitchen.de/ make an exe then
Rudegar said:
http://www.romkitchen.de/ make an exe then
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So is the exe executable from an sd card?
no the exe is only for activesync upgrades
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
how to flash using sd
if the tool is missing dll's then type in the name of the dll in google and find a place to get the dll and it will work
Rudegar said:
no the exe is only for activesync upgrades
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
how to flash using sd
if the tool is missing dll's then type in the name of the dll in google and find a place to get the dll and it will work
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Right, well got active sync which meens the dll's i needed are in system 32 or whatever. But,,, Does bootloader 6.22 cause problems?? Thanks for all the help,, sure this fone is a bit old but who cares. Massive screen, runs office, windows media, touch screen, great fone
Any suggestions? I cant be the only one without a data cable or cradle. At the end of the day i want the fone to run best as possible. I am thinking there is alot more compatable software for wm2003 then ppc2002? @ the moment im running mame and pacman,,,,,,,, Speaking of software, is the media player in 2002 meant to be slow? As far as video go's ive given up there.
what is your problem?
Problem is i dont seem to be able to downgrade from bootloader 6.22 to 5.15 so i can update the rom to 2003. doing ll this without a data cable or cradle.
Bootloader should not cause any problems.
Missing Dll´s for XDATools came as you have ssen correctly form ActiveSync. So you need to install this programm on your PC to use XDATools. Afterwards you will be able to wirte the ROM on your SD-Card and then flash the new ROM on your device.
So if you don´t have any cradle or cable, and don´t sync with ActiveSync, how did you manage your conacts,install software, exchange files, ....?
Stefan
I see the confusion
I have card reader's on the front panel of my pc. So i am using xardit to transfer the bootloader images onto either an sd or an MMC card. So i transfer the patch with the NB2 extension on to the card. Cold reboot xda and it gets to the normal screen telling me i need the keycard.
I can use either xdarit or isoimagetool to transfer the .NB1 file on to an SD.
I have no data cable, so these are the only methods i can use. Just pc with multi card card, sd car, mmc card.
LumpiStefan, the rom kitchen is a damn fine peice of work!
when i had a wallaby i only ever flashed it using a sdcard reader
was pretty easy used ositool put the nbf / nb1 on the sdcard
after which the cardreader could no longer read the sdcard(that mean it's successfully planted)
then i put in the sdcard and entered the bootloader and it autostart upgrading
and when it's don i hardreset and thats it
Hi And thanks
I have tried this with a 1g toshiba sd and a 512 sandisk mmc, neither seem to auto start an update. I have browsed the web a bit and have found different theories on bootloader being a problem. My card reader is a panel on the front of my pc, or using my ngage. tried formatting fat16 or fat32. Im sure it's currently ppc2002 as this is the first screen after the o2 water screen
I think your problems come from your card reader. Many people have reported, that the internal card reader causes problems in writing the ROMs in correct way on the cards. I would s uggest to use an external card reader/writer.....
Stefan
and those are only 10£$€'ish
Thanks guys for your help, all up and running now. I appreciate the advise. Rudegar, my problem was getting the wrong info from elsewhere, the solution was the card reader, Cost me $9.00 au to buy one. I thank you both
My verizon 6700 usb plug broke on my phone and I can not get wm5 back on my phone. I read how to upgrade using the mini-sd card to flash to wm6. I need to know how to do this to downgrade from wm6 to wm5.