Installing a new ROM - what will be the consequences? - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

I'm new to this messing with my xda stuff and I have read most of the forums topics and was just wondering from what I have seen if :-
1) If Jeff's Kitchen is dead? (12:30am 24-09-03)
2) If I can obtain a ROM or if Jeff's kitchen is not dead?
3) What if any are the consequences of installing a new ROM? Has anyone experienced a fatal problem with doing this?
4) How do I check what version I currently have and what is the version I must have before installing a new ROM?
5) Is there anyway to display a webpage in landscape rather than stoopid portrait all the time and in full screen i.e. tool bars etc hidden just like in Windows Media player?

DoomSlayer said:
4) How do I check what version I currently have and what is the version I must have before installing a new ROM?
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Go to Start, Settings, System, Device Information.
Also any and all versions are upgradeable so don't worry about that!
I'll somebody else answer the remaining four.
HTH

Cheers

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New at this

I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
Custom ROMs are usually a lot more stable and perform much better in different aspects. There are programs for almost anything, you just need to search for them
Dmarsh508 said:
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
nitro66215 said:
if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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the wki how to link does not seem to work and i read a bit about this new rom and multiple people have said its slower than stock. also what is rev-a. does that have something to do with free tethering? sorry if this is a stupid question. Im just really new to all this.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
The kitchen is used to cook the ROM. The ROM is what you install on the device. First install hardspl on the device and then run the ROM of your liking. After the flash, be sure to perform a hard reset.
Dmarsh508 said:
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
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This wiki... Titan Recent should explain it all. It is step by step. The only thing you may have to substitute... if it hasn't been updated is the correct files. IE... 3.42.50 radio... and 3.2.5 rom. The kitchen allows you to select different programs that DCD didn't include in the ROM. If you download the kitchen, you can leave it alone... run BuildNB.bat and just "Play" that... and it will work the same as the ROM that DCD made for everyone to use.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
sorry bout the double post
ok im stuck on the bootloader mode. after i updated to SPL-2.40.olipro i am stuck what do i do?!?

[REQ] Oskitchen Help

I am going to give chef'in a try and as I have never done it before I would ask you to be patient with me.
I have the HTC Leo with Radio 2.10.50 and HSPL installed.
Im using oskitchen and so far I have updated a Stock rom to 6.5.5. Nothing difficult there I hear you say ! But hey, its my first working ROM.
Now I have 2 questions that I hope you can help me with.
Q1. When I flashed the ROM to my phone all worked as you would expect apart from the main screen looked like it had dropped down about 10 pixels. Top and bottom bars looked OK but the middle looked wrong (Screen coming if needed)
Q2. Can someone instruct me on how to set the default wallpaper from oskitchen ?
I have an image called HTC_BG.png and I would like to cook it into the ROM as the default wallpaper.
Ive looked on the forums for help with these questions but I am unable to find them.
Any help / links would be helpfull
Once I have this info, I will proceed to cook my ROM and eventually post the results on the forums along with a complete tutorial as I go along, for those who are looking for similar info.
I have any problems with the buttons and the prefrence folders.
I have create a clip how can you see this problem.
h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=qmDQOzCIWu8
I hope i exist a fix, or what are the right kitchen for the Leo??
BoTTeR1337 said:
I have any problems with the buttons and the prefrence folders.
I have create a clip how can you see this problem.
h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=qmDQOzCIWu8
I hope i exist a fix, or what are the right kitchen for the Leo??
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From what I know dumping and rebuilding a Leo ROM works correctly on both oskitchen 1.30v3 and 1.31beta3 so you probably changed something that broke that stuff. Always try if a clean dumped ROM rebuilds fine before doing changes that may break it.
Okay... I think im not so Stupid to do this.
I go this way:
1. I Install (extract) OS Kitchen on a folder into my Harddrive (C:/OS)
2. Then i Load the original Rom, extract this to get the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh
3.I Start OSKitchen and klick on Import-> Import a new ROM file.
4. I Select my Model, HTC Leo (HD2) and type the pfad of the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh and go to next (Waiting a minute)
5. I klick on start bulding, and os kitchen go throte without errors..
I Flash the Rom...
And the Taps didn't work. I Have a Windows XP OS and the OS Kitchen Version is 1.31.alpha4
BoTTeR1337 said:
Okay... I think im not so Stupid to do this.
I go this way:
1. I Install (extract) OS Kitchen on a folder into my Harddrive (C:/OS)
2. Then i Load the original Rom, extract this to get the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh
3.I Start OSKitchen and klick on Import-> Import a new ROM file.
4. I Select my Model, HTC Leo (HD2) and type the pfad of the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh and go to next (Waiting a minute)
5. I klick on start bulding, and os kitchen go throte without errors..
I Flash the Rom...
And the Taps didn't work. I Have a Windows XP OS and the OS Kitchen Version is 1.31.alpha4
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Update to 1.31beta3 because anything before the beta1 had issues with HD2
like Shaddex I am looking into creating ROM's from scratch (for HD2 Leo also!), first for personally use and maybe for general if I can get a ROM to look nice.
My question is, is there a kitchen which work's best for the HD2? Or are all basically generic and just "cook" in different ways?
Sorry to hijack your post Shaddex I hope you get an answer soon, wish I could help
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Ok. I extracted Oskitch again, added "RUU_Leo_HKCSL_WWE_1.72.831.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship"
as the base ROM.
Next installed the "24619_MSXIPKernel_SYS_QVGA_WQVGA_HVGA_VGA_WVGA_0409" so I can use the latest build.
Thats all I did.
No extra EXT packages, Just cooked the ROM and below is what I get.
Anyone shed any light ?
5haddex said:
And back on topic
Ok. I extracted Oskitch again, added "RUU_Leo_HKCSL_WWE_1.72.831.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship"
as the base ROM.
Next installed the "24619_MSXIPKernel_SYS_QVGA_WQVGA_HVGA_VGA_WVGA_0409" so I can use the latest build.
Thats all I did.
No extra EXT packages, Just cooked the ROM and below is what I get.
Anyone shed any light ?
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The 6.5.3 windows mobile builds have the top and bottom bar of different sizes while Manila is probably calibrated for the WM6.5 bars (indeed there's empty space at the top and overlap at the bottom). There is probably something else you have to do to fix manila after changing the windows mobile build but I'm pretty sure it's not a kitchen problem I've had several people reporting the Leo ROMs dump and build fine with the 1.31 betas.
Is anyone willing to assist me on getting a Stock HD2 rom and upgrading it to 6.5.x without the problems I am seeing ?
5haddex said:
Is anyone willing to assist me on getting a Stock HD2 rom and upgrading it to 6.5.x without the problems I am seeing ?
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Could you post a screenshot of your problem, and if you upload your background, i will use it to replace the one in HTC Black.TSK (You need OCP CE CAB Manager)
I have posted a screenie of the problem and someone says its because manila is not the correct version for the 6.5.5 im using.
Dont suppose you have a 6.5.5 stock rom ???
So...
Can anyone let me have a oskitchen with 6.5.x + latest manila so I can add to it.

New to HTC Mega

heya guys.
i just bought myself a new Mega last week, and i kinda wondering can you guys recommend which ROM should i pick to flash it? i browsed the ROM section but i don't know which one i should pick. and some of the roms are filled with programs that i don't even know of. which is why i ask for your recommendations.
thanks in advance.
Hello, think that you have to ask yourself why you want to change the stock ROM? Not happy with it? What do you want to see improved? Do you want a lite version or full version?
Ideally you try a few of them and see which one you like best. But first of all would read the posts with the various Rom's so you have an idea what they offer.
Personally can recommend the Rom of Billabongstaff which I use myself. Also read the "new to Rom's" thread.
Succes.
heya again.
i've explored every thread about roms on HTC Mega but i can't seem to find any suitable roms that i really want to use. there's a few nice ones but i don't even know some of the programs installed in that roms. so i need someone to answers me these questions so that i could decide which roms that i should flash.
1. My HTC mega version is
ROM: 1.28.707.3 (66092)
Radio Version : 3.49.25.05
WinMo : 6.5 Pro (build 21854.5.0.80)
Is this an old rom version? Should i upgrade it or stick with it?
2. If i should upgrade it, can i flash 6.5.5 rom onto my phone? what's the difference with original 6.5?
3. If i should stick with it, can anyone suggest what good programs that i may install to this phone? so far i only find SPB Shell and Facebook that's good enough for me.
thanks in advance.
amienzero said:
heya again.
i've explored every thread about roms on HTC Mega but i can't seem to find any suitable roms that i really want to use. there's a few nice ones but i don't even know some of the programs installed in that roms. so i need someone to answers me these questions so that i could decide which roms that i should flash.
1. My HTC mega version is
ROM: 1.28.707.3 (66092)
Radio Version : 3.49.25.05
WinMo : 6.5 Pro (build 21854.5.0.80)
Is this an old rom version? Should i upgrade it or stick with it?
2. If i should upgrade it, can i flash 6.5.5 rom onto my phone? what's the difference with original 6.5?
3. If i should stick with it, can anyone suggest what good programs that i may install to this phone? so far i only find SPB Shell and Facebook that's good enough for me.
thanks in advance.
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Amienzero, would be nice if that is available but do not expect a resume of all Rom's for Mega....
1 If you can not decide on a Rom because you do not know the programs used than the search function can help you so it becomes quickly clear what they are about.
2 The Rom you have is pretty new for 6.5. You can upgrade to built 21912 (or 21909 in custom Rom) but do not expect a lot of difference.
3 WM 6.5.5 is more finger friendly than 6.5 but it is also a matter of taste.
4 To decide which program you need or like simply read about the application section in Mega or general Windows Mobile but foremost try them yourself. If you read the posts you notice a few popular ones mentioned.
Succes.
thanks Frank C for answering my questions.
okay, i've looked up about WinMo 6.5.5 and i'm interested with it. say if i use HSPL, then flash the 6.5.5 rom. then if i'm not satisfied with it i can just perform a hard reset, right? then i'll be back to the original 6.5?
No if you do hard reset, the rom won't change.
You have to install original rom again.
Find attached comparison between WM 6.5-6.5.3-7......
And the article:
http://winmo.techparaiso.com/windows-phone-7-series-specs-and-comparison-to-previous-versions/
thanks everyone for replying.
but now i have a new problem. i haven't flash any roms yet but now the today screen shows clock instead of battery. how can i fix that? before it shows the battery indicator but recently i did a hard reset (i messed up the touchflo2d ) and now instead of battery, it shows the time. now i got 2 clock on my today screen. please help.
Try:
Start/Settings/Clock & Alarms and uncheck the box saying 'display clock on title bar in all programs'
This should sort it
sweet! that fixes it. thanks! i wonder how that got ticked.
time to get back hunting clean 6.5.5 rom or wait for that android.
okay, one last question.
my mega uses qwerty input to enter text. is there a way or a program that can change the input to numpad text input? when i pressed the keyboard button in the middle, it only gave me the qwerty and input method (Pin Yin) option.

Beginners help with cooking please

Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile - use to be a Symbian fan and then got the HTC Touch Diamond recently due to my Nokia dieing of old age.
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want. I tried sending Da_G a PM as he seems to be quite knowledable about cooking - although he seems to be MIA (his last post was a long time ago) and I have not gotten a reply yet.
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to.
So I have an HTC Touch Diamond which originally comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, I am using osKitchen as it seems really popular and it looks easy enough to use. I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.
So in order to cook a ROM you first need to have an original ROM (so in my case an original ROM for the HTC Touch Diamond off the HTC site?)... I got that(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.03.421.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe)
Then you open it up with osKitchen, it extracts it blah blah blah.
I then get a popup about a new ROM has been imported and it asks me if I want to automatically configure the project to use the ROM. I click yes.
Then it says the device profile currently selected uses a pre 6.5 kernel, module allocation space will be extremely limited. Do I want to auto enable module to file conversion for a list of files? Now I read somewhere that if you are using pre 6.5 kernel you want files, if you are using the 6.5 kernel you want modules? I am not sure what to click here as I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6.5 ...
So do I enable the conversion or not?
Then it pops up with the project settings, under SYS Packages I can see all of the phones services. OEM packages, I am not too sure what that is... One thing which is worrying is that there is a red circle with an X in it infront of OEM Drivers... If I hover over it, it says there are issues detected in the OEMdriers. They all seem to be errors detected in the registry and the registery key path entry is invalid due to 2 adjacent backslahes? So is this normal? What do I do?
Also there is a block "RecMod" under OEM Packages. What does that do and what is it used for?
EXT Packages, over here we have all of the applications which will be preinstalled when you flash the ROM? I know how to add .cab packages to it and it seems simple enough. Once again there is a RecMod with a tick box?
ROM Tweaking I have not really bothered with yet, would first like to learn the basics. Anything I should know about in ROM Tweaking?
Now back to SYS Packages. This is where you update/port/upgrade ? to newer windows mobile versions? Now I think if you are changing between window mobile major build versions or what ever you want to call it (like from 6.1 to 6.5) kernel changes perhaps? You call it porting? Anyways, so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
I took a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
Now it seems like the first 3 digits indicate something, what exactly I am not too sure. Perhaps someone could explain?
There is HTC HTC which is made by HTC I think and possibly meant for HTC?
Then there is COM 2 and LG. Now since I have an HTC do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
Anyways, I downloaded the HTC one. Now I want to port / upgrade to it. It is WM6.5 now as well. So I click Import, then goto Import a new WM build. Select the appropriate build dump, then click on start importing. It will import it and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
I am assuming go back to Project Settings and under SYS build change it to the newer one which I have just imported? Although is this really all I need to do? Will I now have a proper functioning cooked ROM running WM6.5 with the new build?
Thanks
If you're cooking a 6.5 rom, and you have a 6.5 native kernel (there should be one out there, unless you're using a cdma diamond), then DO NOT RECMOD (convert to files). If you have to use a 6.1 kernel, then you have to recmod a lot of modules. Look around, there are threads with native kernels for many older devices. I'm not going to dig up a link, I'll let you find it. Just get the Diamond native kernel and use it.
If you have a cdma diamond, then I believe that people use the cdma raphael native kernel, but supposedly it's buggy.
OEM Drivers has an .rgu that usually has a few mistakes in it; that's probably the error you're getting. I wouldn't worry about it, but the kitchen may tell you which line the error appears in, and you can fix it.
As far as rom tweaking goes, all you need to know is that manila sucks, and Sense is blight on humanity. Good luck and have fun.
Real Beginners Stuff Please.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile......
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want.....
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to......
...... I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.....
..... What do I do?
..... What does that do and what is it used for?
..... would first like to learn the basics......
..... so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
..... do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
.....and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
.....Thanks
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Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
It all comes down to the basics. If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
Kitchens available today make a lot of things heaps easier than they were several years ago.
Try starting with this thread.... it is not for your device, but you get to learn the basics and actually understand what happens in the background.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
pkoper said:
.... If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
..... Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
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This may be new to me, but it also was to EVERY cook there is, or has been at sometime. We all learn something new at some time, and all I was asking for is a little starter to get me going. I realaise it isn't a point and click exercise, otherwise I would have made a ROM by now, and not asked for help. I didn't write the software for the kitchen, so I don't know how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
Please, give me a break.
Fish-Man said:
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
Fish-Man said:
Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
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Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
pkoper said:
Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
Fish-Man said:
Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
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I don't think what you're looking for exist, persay. There are several kitchens out there to choose from. The only thing that helped me when starting out was frequenting the thread of the kitchen that I was using. It's in the kitchen's thread that you'll find all the nitty gritty answers you're looking for and other people that are in the same boat as you, and more experienced users of the same kitchen who would probably be more apt at answering questions about specific kitchen.
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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Nice quick knowledge drop on kernel. It sounds to me like you already have a better grasp on things then some!
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
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Thats because there is no stock 6.5 for the Kaiser. Not sure what "those WM6.5 files" are, but you do need the drivers for your device. Any leaked build will not contain those.
Dumping a stock rom will give you insight as to what is actually in the rom. When you then download one of the leaked builds you can you will recognize the files and hence see what needs replacing in order to upgrade.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
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What kitchen are you using? As there are obviously slight differences as to what is where.
I would just get a ready kitchen and study it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517957
for your reference maybe you should read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901712
i had made the tutorial how to cook ROM, step by step. it has different device and different OS but worth to read.....
i don't have enough capability to Cook but i try to....
also in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385
some of members also made tutorial as well.......
i hope it can help.

[Q] Flashing ROM on Acer neotouch S200

Hello, I bought on the german e-bay a mobile device called Acer neotouch s200, which is in german language without other languages like english, etc... I have read that if I want to get english language, I need to (re)flash it. Currently, the device has S200_3.003c.00_DE ROM. I do not know exactly if it is better to get the default ROM or the newest. To flash it, I downloaded Acer S200 beta 3 flashing tool, ran Acer_EUU.exe, but it stopped before updating the device (this was made on my desktop computer with Windows XP). I also tried it on my laptop with Windows 7, but the Acer_EUU.exe "stopped working". Can you please give me any advice how to solve my problem? I read it is better to get the default ROM, because it reduce the battery status, but it has got bugs.
Thank you
heeelp please
bry4nnn said:
heeelp please
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heeelp please
Please do some search on this forum. This is one of the thread I found.
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benjaminchan
10th April 2010, 06:47 AM
Dear Stress Analyst,
Thanks for your helpful advice. The problem has been solved. For the benefit of those who run into the same problem, here is what I did (I am summarizing this from memory, so I may miss a few things):
- I downloaded a file called "Arto's Sense rom 2.1 (3.003c, 23554, 2012).rar". The size is 162,841,490 bytes.
- I unzipped the contents of the .rar file into a folder.
- I put the S200 in bootloader mode by pressing and holding the camera and power buttons, while pressing the reset button with the stylus. The LED started flashing red. I connected the S200 to my Windows XP SP3 desktop, and it caused the Acer HS-USB driver to be installed.
- In the aforementioned folder, I ran “Acer_Euu.exe”, and was led through a series of windows. Just click, click, click ...
- When flashed, the Arto ROM was nice and interesting on my pda, but a bit too funky for a middle-age man like me. So I decided to install the Acer update instead.
- I unzipped file “OS_Acer_3.003c.01.EN.02_WM65_A.zip” and ran file EUU_Acer_S200_3.003c.01_EN_02_03.03.08_3.003c.00_2 0100202.exe
- After flashing the updated Acer ROM, I checked the version number, which was CE OS 5.2.21883 (Build 21883.5.0.783). The earlier version was Build 21857.5.0.66. The new version seems to run faster than the old version. Here is what I think were the problems with the older version 21857.5.0.66:
- The old firmware does not do a Clean Boot very well.
- The old firmwave has problems connecting to the Acer update.
Arto's ROM overcame these two problems, which meant that I can use it as a temporary bridge to the updated Acer ROM.
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You can try the newest Arto's rom on the 2nd thread below yours.
Unhappy
How can I change ROM Acer neoTouch S200
I have OS_ACER_3.003b.00.EN_WM65_S200
I want to change to
EUU_Acer_S200_3.003c.00_EN_01_03.03.08_3.003c.00_2 0100203
problem
Code
ERROR CODE = SKU_incompatible
Search.... All answers in this forum............
.....Tried to update from 3.003b to EUU_Acer_S200_3.003c.00_EN_01_03.03.08_3.003c.00_20100203
and the utility tells me SKU_incompatible .
I have in registry EN language by default.
Does anyone knows what is wrong with it?
Yes, for this "3.003c.00_EN_01" rom you should have language set ton EN_01 in your registry. ;-]
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Just use your favorite registry editor and go to HKLM\ControlPanel\ACER\SystemInfo\Software
You'll find two keys: ExtROMVer and Language
For each key, Change your language occurence to "EN_01".
guys, do you really think that I am an idiot? I know all these steps, but I CANNOT connect the device to my laptops & PC
btw, can u copy here a DL link for "Arto's Sense rom 2.1 (3.003c, 23554, 2012).rar" ? Cannot find it
cmooon fellaz
Can you get into bootloader mode?
Version 2.1 is just the latest version during the creation of the thread. You can download other versions here.
http://www.almostunreal.org/arto/
Try follow up on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642654&page=258
Get machine into bootloader mode, Red led flashing. Key sequence:
Camera + Volume down + Reset
Previous key sequence won't work for me. (Camera+Power+Reset)
Finally I flashed my device using the Arto's Sense rom, but now the device is really slow and some options are restricted. I also cannot change the display settings, so it is sometimes bright and sometimes dark. G-Sensor does not work, phone lags a lil bit. Is there any way how to get the DEFAULT stock firmware (with english language of course)? I copied the downloaded firmware from ftp: ftp.acer-euro (the oldest) to directory called Acer beta flashing tool where is also included Acer_EUU.exe and other stuff for flashing... and flashed it. After flash the welcome screen says I have the old firmware, but there is the same theme like before and the OS version did not change. I thought the newest, cooked firmware is very good & fast and works without any problems but this really sux. imho the default will be definitely the best :>
Thanks for any advice
Download this official rom here.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6t1kpo
Check the Arto rom version and change your register to EN_02 before flashing the new rom.
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Just use your favorite registry editor and go to HKLM\ControlPanel\ACER\SystemInfo\Software
You'll find two keys: ExtROMVer and Language
For each key, Change your language occurence to "EN_02".
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Actually I have tested every step without problem. Flash to Arto's rom and flashing back to official rom.
bry4nnn said:
Finally I flashed my device using the Arto's Sense rom, but now the device is really slow and some options are restricted. I also cannot change the display settings, so it is sometimes bright and sometimes dark. G-Sensor does not work, phone lags a lil bit. Is there any way how to get the DEFAULT stock firmware (with english language of course)? I copied the downloaded firmware from ftp: ftp.acer-euro (the oldest) to directory called Acer beta flashing tool where is also included Acer_EUU.exe and other stuff for flashing... and flashed it. After flash the welcome screen says I have the old firmware, but there is the same theme like before and the OS version did not change. I thought the newest, cooked firmware is very good & fast and works without any problems but this really sux. imho the default will be definitely the best :>
bry4nnn,
First of all, you have followed bad/wrong advice from an idiot who quoted an old post about arto's sense "2.1" when in reality, sense roms and s200 rom developement in general has far surpassed 2.1 and acer stock firmware!!!!
according to your first post you already had the latest "stock" firmware w/3.003c drivers so all you needed to do was flash one of the many "clean roms" labled "WWE".
Second, the S200 will always have bugs because of WM6.5 that's why cooked roms are made to overcome most of the limitations of our device!! Inchu though
wrong about almost everything was right about one thing,"READ BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD" because right beneath your post is an entire universe of
info,roms,flashing info and all things s200!!! including one labled "Arto's sense 4.0" if you bothered to look you would find a change log with a chronological listing of Arto's sense from 1.0,1.1,etc...
My advice for you would be to delete all of your downloaded EUU's and beta tools and start over by simply downloading one of brainmaster's roms either
"WWE Clean" or "WWE Manila Clean 1.1" or any of the many he has cooked
for our device.
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lnchu said:
Download this official rom here.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6t1kpo
Check the Arto rom version and change your register to EN_02 before flashing the new rom.
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Just use your favorite registry editor and go to HKLM\ControlPanel\ACER\SystemInfo\Software
You'll find two keys: ExtROMVer and Language
For each key, Change your language occurence to "EN_02".
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Actually I have tested every step without problem. Flash to Arto's rom and flashing back to official rom.
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ehm, your file is called "Name: OS_Acer_3.003c.01.EN.02_WM65_A.zip " which refers to a newer firmware, right? Anyway, i have to repeat myself: "I need default stock firmware, the oldest with EN" (and in my opinion it is probably called 2.003, yy?)
acer900 said:
bry4nnn said:
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bry4nnn,
First of all, you have followed bad/wrong advice from an idiot who quoted an old post about arto's sense "2.1" when in reality, sense roms and s200 rom developement in general has far surpassed 2.1 and acer stock firmware!!!!
according to your first post you already had the latest "stock" firmware w/3.003c drivers so all you needed to do was flash one of the many "clean roms" labled "WWE".
Second, the S200 will always have bugs because of WM6.5 that's why cooked roms are made to overcome most of the limitations of our device!! Inchu though
wrong about almost everything was right about one thing,"READ BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD" because right beneath your post is an entire universe of
info,roms,flashing info and all things s200!!! including one labled "Arto's sense 4.0" if you bothered to look you would find a change log with a chronological listing of Arto's sense from 1.0,1.1,etc...
My advice for you would be to delete all of your downloaded EUU's and beta tools and start over by simply downloading one of brainmaster's roms either
"WWE Clean" or "WWE Manila Clean 1.1" or any of the many he has cooked
for our device.
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For what exactly do I need this: WWE Clean and WWE MC 1.1 ? How I said, I rly do not need any CUSTOM firmware. just want to get the default firmware, not these bugged versions.
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Then you are clearly in the wrong place because this is the "Neotouch S200 Rom Development" section not Acer.com (http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/download.htm which is where all things "official" or"stock" can be found!!!
And you are so wrong about the custom roms here they are light years ahead of the bug filled original acer rom!!!
But since you have only tried an older version custom rom still in development (as the change log indicates) and decided that all custom roms are buggy w/out having tried them then maybe you deserve the original acer firmware!
custom roms are made to correct problems in the stock firmware.
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acer900 said:
Then you are clearly in the wrong place because this is the "Neotouch S200 Rom Development" section not Acer.com (http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/download.htm which is where all things "official" or"stock" can be found!!!
And you are so wrong about the custom roms here they are light years ahead of the bug filled original acer rom!!!
But since you have only tried an older version custom rom still in development (as the change log indicates) and decided that all custom roms are buggy w/out having tried them then maybe you deserve the original acer firmware!
custom roms are made to correct problems in the stock firmware.
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u r so amusing, are not u? "custom roms are made to correct problems in the stock firmware" - yeah yeah and the bugs there are like side effects at painkillers, yeah?
And why the **** are u spamming here in this thread (now)? I wanted to get stock FW, not an advice about slow_buggy_custom_rom, cyao
I belong here, been here almost from the start of this forum and know a hell of a
lot more than you!!!! but dumb assholes like you who come to a windows mobile hacking forum to ask for advice about stock firmware don't!!
Not to mention, insulting the work of the very people you ask to help you're
sorry - wannabe - know-it-all ass will surely never get answers!!!!!
Any ideas how to get the default stock fw like it is here - http://tinyurl.com/5s5ocmh ?
I had it before with unsuitable languange (fw version was 3.003c). Now I want the same, just with english. If I use the fimwares from acer webpage then I have the same theme (& and the display is still dark, cannot change some options, etc..)
PROBLEM SOLVED
Arto made for me this stock firmware (3.003c.01.EN.02)
http://www.4shared.com/file/jJQSar1f/Stock_rom_english_S200.html
The home screen looks like this:
http://tinyurl.com/6fyfkhv
Thank you

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