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Bootloader 5.17 > 5.15

Hi everyone I'm new here. I would like to downgrade my bootloader from 5.17 to 5.15 but am having some problems with the Wallaby patch. First let me tell you what I'm running:
Australian O2 XDA
Rom upgraded to 4.00.01
RSU upgraded to 4.21
Protocol 32S54
Using the XDA Rom image tool I have written the Wallaby patch to a pretech 128 mb card using the 1k header and diagnostics method (I have tried the 3.5k header as well) the program reports that it was succesfull although I can't see the file under file explorer. When I start the bootloader I don't get any message about upgrading and the bootloader reports Card Key Invalid. When I exit the bootloader it Hard Resets the XDA. I have tried reverting to the XDA Developers Rom and interestingly although I get the same invalid key error on exiting the bootloader it only Soft Resets. I am waiting for a serial cable to be delivered and then will be able to upload the previous version via Hyperterminal (I Hope ?) but it would be interesting to know if anyone else has managed to do this and how they did it.
Great Site
Richard

Hi there Richard - I am also in Australia (which might be of significance too??) and am also experiencing the EXACT same problems as you!!! :shock:
I cannot get the Wallaby Bootloader (v5.17) to recognise the ROM Image (via xdarit) and provide the alternate menu options necessary to flash the bootloader?! :evil:
Is it perhaps a region specific issue that we Aussies are unlucky enough to have??
I would REALLY appreciate ANYONE who has some suggestions for Richard and I to provide an alternative means of downgrading 5.17 so that we can uninstall PPC2003 (which is way to buggy IMHO) and go back to PPC2002. Thanks in advance guys and keep up the EXCELLENT site!!!!

Hi Mike
If all you want to do is get rid of PPC2003 you could just run the developers V1.2 Rom setup (I have gone backwards and forwards a couple of times) Personaly I prefer PPC2003. I want to get back to bootloader 5.15 so that I have an alternative backup routine in case I crash the device as obviously in order to run a Program A update the device needs to be working. Having said that there is a USB flash program in the bootloader which might allow the Program A to work I just havn't been brave enough to try it yet. Any one else out there tried it ?
Richard

Hey - thanks for that info Richard - okay, so now I can in fact go back to "bog standard" PPC2002 right? Or will it still be running a non-standard ROM?
What I am worried about is that if I need to send this sucker back to Optus(?) for warranty repairs etc. then they may not be too happy to do anything under warranty if they detect that I have installed a "non-authorised" ROM upgrade (if you know what I mean)?!
So you reckon PPC2003 is okay huh? Are you with Optus or Telstra?
Last question - what is the most efficient (and straightforward) way to back up the XDA if A) I keep PPC2003 a little longer and/or B) if I go back to PPC2002? FYI - I have a 128MB SD card and reader (integrated into my Toshiba notebook as well as cradle (obviously) and the USB Sync cable.
Thanks for your help Rickard (and anyone else that cares to offer any advice) :?

Mike
The Developers Rom is based on the latest O2 UK Rom update 3.17.03 (I think) and basicaly they have crammed all sorts of software into the Rom (Survives hard reset and makes better use of the systems memory) In order to go back to standard you would need a "Asian" image (there on a previous version to UK?) which includes "local" configuerators for GPRS etc. I beleive an update is due out soon so once it is you can install this and Optus will be none the wiser.
Yea I realy like PPC2003 much nicer all round but a bit of shame that some software won't run on it. I'm planning to have a go at a "speical" Rom myself based on the 4.00.01 image.
I'm with Telstra but can't see why Optus would be any different apart from the auto configureration.
Assuming no fix for the bootloader arrives (This is by far the easiest) you can back up you're Rom via Hyperterminal you will need a serial cable to do this. By and large unless you're planning to mess around with you're system there isn't much point in doing anything other than backing up you're Ram (As apposed to Rom) with the SD card backup program included on the XDA
Richard

Upgrading to 4.00.16 for T-Mobile

I'm sick of waiting for an answer from T-Mobile on when WM2003 will be available for the PPCPhone Edition, if at all, so I decided to create an executable of 4.00.16 at Jeff's kitchen.
I'm a little freaky about installing it. So before I do I would like to know (1) problems encountered from those that have done the upgrade and (2) the exact instructions on how to return back to my original T-Mobile OS ROM.
I know there are many of you out there that feel the same anguish regarding T-Mobile's lack of information regarding WM2003 & the hopes of better software that improves the PPC's ability to connect via GPRS (it sucks now) and overall performance. After all, we spent a load of money on this sucker.
Thank you in advance to all the gurus out there who answer this for the rest of us

If you install the XDAtools, you can create a backup of your ROM through ActiveSync. If at any time you click on the backup file, you will be offered the option of burning it back into your device.
However: since your new ROM is 4.00.16, you need to know there is a problem: you cannot use the normal upgrade program called "Programme A" to move away from 4.00.16. But you can use the option in the XDAtools to write your old old OS to an SD card using the XDA (all files on the SD-card will be erased in the process). Then you can boot the device in bootloader mode and press the center of the rocker switch to load your old OS.
My guess is you'll be almost perfectly happy with 4.00.16 though (at least happier than with any 3.x ROM) . Just be aware of the one remaining problem: occasional SD-card erasures have been reported by some people (they do not seem to affect everyone), so do not store valuable data on SD without backup.

I upgraded to 4.00.16 yesterday and still can't get GPRS to work. Sometimes it says it connects but I can't get to anything and other times it gives me an error trying to connect. I've been trying everything I can think of for GPRS settings. I'm on T-Mobile in Atlanta with Radio version 6.18.00. I'm not sure if you will have the same problem or not.

I had trouble connecting through GPRS too at one point where I thought it was ROM 4.00.16. But I finally did connect.
One of the major reasons for upgrading was an expected improvement in GPRS performance. If anything, it got worse. Do I have to upgrade the radio rom too for improvement in GPRS?

rfeagin:
I had similar problems following the upgrade, and as an afterthought I went to my local TMo store and exchanged my SIM chip. Mine was three years old, and the new SIM fixed the problem. Also, if you upgrade the radio stack to 6.24 or the AT&T stack, you will gain persistent GPRS connectivity.
David

SO the TMo store will swap sim cards with me if I go in and tell them I want a new one? Also... where can I find the radio stack 6.24 stack or the AT&T?
Thanks for your help. I really would like to get this working again.

I've heard that its very difficult if at all possible to downgrade the Radio ROM back to its normal state. This is why I have not done it yet.

I posted instructions in the following thread for locating and installing the 6.24 radio stack: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2452&highlight=. If you would like the AT&T files (I prefer the TMo files), send me a PM and I will help you get them.
Downgrading radio stacks is difficult, and maybe impossible in some cases, but as long as you have the four files listed in the referenced thread, it seems to work well.
David

I backed up my original ROM on an SD Card so I could revert back to it from 4.00.16. I tired to revert back today but for some reason the image is not on the SD card. Now what?
How can I get my old T-Mobile ROM back? Any ideas?

If you have a Card Reader, you can use XDATools to burn a rom image onto it, then use that image to reload your XDA via the SDCard method...
I just bought a SDCard reader from WalMart, for 19 bucks, it is a Lexar JumpDrive Trio, and it can read SD cards, XD CArds, and Sony Memorystick, and it is USB 2.0..
It is nice, albeit a bit flimsy..
But it works.
B

camarao said:
How can I get my old T-Mobile ROM back? Any ideas?
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Yes, you can download it from here:
Current T-Mobile 2002 ROM Update:
http://www.t-mobile.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/downloads.asp
Will upgrade to this version:
ROM version: 3.14.40 ENG
ROM date: 11/26/02
Radio: 6.18
Protocol: 324e4
HTH

camarao said:
I'm sick of waiting for an answer from T-Mobile on when WM2003 will be available for the PPCPhone Edition, if at all, so I decided to create an executable of 4.00.16 at Jeff's kitchen.
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Is there anywhere the more adventurous among the non-linux population can try this baby?
Cato

Qman:
Are you saying that I will be able to download and install the T-Mobile executable over my 4.00.16 version?

camarao said:
Qman:
Are you saying that I will be able to download and install the T-Mobile executable over my 4.00.16 version?
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I'm not sure about if the executable will work or not but if does fail you can always use the bootloader method!

xda.weblink.net 4.01.16 upgrades to 3.16?

I just want to check that this is correct since I'm new at this. I cooked a rom on xda.weblink.net and selected the t-mobile 4.01.16 rom and all the options i want and selected the .exe option. Then when I run the .exe and im about to click upgrade it says I will be upgrading to rom 3.16 (attached screenshot). i thought i was upgrading to 4.01.16?

Do not worry!
ignore the info and go ahead, you will get 4.01.16

after all the problems i've heard about, i wonder if i shouldnt just use the SD card method. This is my only phone and without it I am screwed! Does the SD card method update the radio like this one does?

The sd card method is used with the ce part of the rom, if your radio stack is working ok I suggest you leave it alone. I think the reason the screen says it is installing a different version is because it is patching code so the rom is accepted rather than being rejected because of a mismatch of country/rom/version etc.

i've heard that the radio stack for this version will increase gprs speed

Radio Stack

Hello
Been here for awhile just reading and reading. As with some peeps I went and did an upgrade from my provider and am running the following.
Rom Ver - A.30.09.ENG
Radio - A.33.03
Protocol - 1.3.3
The Phone came with PPC 2002 on it. When I saw that my provider had an upgrade I just d/led it and installed it. After the upgrade, the unit worked great but the volume had issues and the signal strength seems to be less than is was with the previous radio. Is there any way to go back to the older radio stack version but still keep the updated ROM??? I have since been to Lumpi's and messed around with cooked ROMS. Now I can't even run the providers upgrade again because it says I have the wrong ROM. Any help would be great!
edit: What I really want to do is run the rogers ontario upgrade ROM with the old radio stack. Again any help would be great.

If you go to lumpis kitchen, cook a rom that contans all you want either 2002 or wm2003, at the bottom of the page choose sd card flashing, this will give you a zipped nbf file, unzip it and use xdatools to program an sd card with the rom image, you choose the nbf as source and from the drop down choose your card reader writer, once programmed place in xda, push reset while holding power, push action key when prompted, this will overwrite your rom without giving country protection or version error, charge your xda first.

Not sure what to say here. As I stated in my original post, I have been to Lumpi's kitchen. He doesn't have the ROM for Rogers Wireless in Canada, he has an older one for Rogers AT&T which is no longer. He also doesn't have any RSU's just ROM's. However this is not my question. I can live with that. As I stated, I would really like to downgrade the radio stack. I seemed to get better signal strength and less dropped calls when I had the previous version. Had I known that when I got the Rogers Wireless upgrade, it was going to upgrade the RSU as well, I wouldn't have done it. Thanks

Tmobile MDA USA Rom update ?

Hi,
Just got a tmobile MDA USA 2 weeks ago and the ROM date shows 12/10/05 for the ROM Version 1.8.10.02 WWE
I have foudn this page:
ftp://xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile/ and was wondering if you guys could help me firgure out which file to download and how to figure out which ROM they are and if they are updated ones.
Thank you

Hi
In this case, don't browse FTP directly.
Go to wiki page and everything will be clear to you
have fun

Just to clarify:
If I want to update my T-Mobile MDA VARIO Radio ROM, the correct one is in the FTP Site as follow:
Wizard/Radio_Roms/RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe
Is that correct? If yes, please let me know if there are ANY important steps that I need to follow to update the ROM (or this is just merely involve connecting to the PC using ActiveSync and execute the above).
I have CID and SIM unlocked my phone using the lokiwizard tool.

lanwarrior said:
Just to clarify:
If I want to update my T-Mobile MDA VARIO Radio ROM, the correct one is in the FTP Site as follow:
Wizard/Radio_Roms/RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe
Is that correct? If yes, please let me know if there are ANY important steps that I need to follow to update the ROM (or this is just merely involve connecting to the PC using ActiveSync and execute the above).
I have CID and SIM unlocked my phone using the lokiwizard tool.
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That will just update the GSM stack.
It wont affect the PDA functionality at all, or any apps. Just the GSM stack.
I've installed that same update on my USA TMO Wizard, and it updated flawlessly. The GSM stack seems more "snappy," but nothing much changes. I'm having a weird repeater issue in my office building, and it didn't help.

fuzzycuffs said:
That will just update the GSM stack.
It wont affect the PDA functionality at all, or any apps. Just the GSM stack.
I've installed that same update on my USA TMO Wizard, and it updated flawlessly. The GSM stack seems more "snappy," but nothing much changes. I'm having a weird repeater issue in my office building, and it didn't help.
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So this is the correct RADIO ROM update that has been widely reported to increase the effectiveness and sensitivity of the MDA Vario radio, right? Mainly, it's faster to re-acquire signal from say, inside a tunnel to outside.
Is my assumption correct? If yes, I am going to update my MDA VArio Radio ROM since it's now taking 1-5 minutes just to re-acquire signal.

Yes.

Wait, when I execute the file (RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe), it told me that this application will delete ALL data in the T-Mobile MDA.
I thought this is supposedly only used to update Radio ROM, NOT the entire device ROM.
If a delete is required, is it safe for me to restore back using a backup file (created using Sprite Backup) that is using the old Radio ROM?

lanwarrior said:
Wait, when I execute the file (RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe), it told me that this application will delete ALL data in the T-Mobile MDA.
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Its wrong. It will not delete the data (provided you're loading ONLY the 1.12.10 Radio update)

Can someone post the file. I get permission denied when I try to enter the ftp site. :?: