Ok so I trashed my ppc doing the radio update. Since I did the exact thing that Freshster did here is a cut and paste of my problem
" So, I tried running this TMO 4.00.10 upgrade in order to upgrade the radio stack to 6.24.00. While it was doing the radio stack upgrade, it failed at 13% complete. The error told me to "reset the device normally, wait for the radio stack to repair itself, reset the device again normally, then try to run the upgrade again."
After I did the normal reset that it told me to do, my screen got stuck on the ROM Kitchen boot screen and only showed a G, R, and 4.00.05 at the bottom corner, without showing a radio version or protocol version number. The led would not light up anymore. It did not flash green to show that it had signal, and it would not even show orange when it was connected to a charger. "
At this point Im SOL until tomorrow b/c I dont have a SD reader, my question is, can I upgrade the radio via the SD and hopefully get things going again? Or do I just attempt to reload a whole new rom and rsu via the SD card tomorrow. Thanks in advance for your help.
This is just a suggestion, I don't know if it will work.
1. Bootup in the Wallaby Boot Loader (hold power button while soft reset)
2. Press Calender button to bring up radio stack selections
3. Select turn off GSM
4. Reset and see if it will boot up when it doesn't have radio turned on
5. If it will, then set in active sync in guest mode
6. copy the RSUpgrade files to your window directory on the device using the explorer option in active sync
7. copy the two monitor files monitor_ul_bs.map and .m0 to the windows directory
8. reomove the device from the active sync
9. using the explorer on the device find the RSUpgrade executable in the windows directory and double click
10. this should start the radio upgrade going again
GOOD LUCK!
Thanks for the suggestion, I tried it but now luck. The pda stays stuck on the rom kitchen boot up screen. Thanks again.
OK, I had the exact same problem. You have to be patient, when you reset the device you'll get the R blank / G blank because the existing radio stack has now been trashed. eventually the PPC OS will boot. At this point reset again, wait for CE to boot & then reset again, The point is keep resetting the PPC every time you get the R Blank & G blank screen and wait for CE to boot. ON each reset the radio stack upgrade is working in the back ground. After 4 or 5 resets mine came up with R 6.24. at this point I connected the PPC back to Activesync & reran the upgrade & it went through just fine & installed the T-Mobile WM2003 ROM
Pdageek1 is right on the money! But I'll add one more step, remove your SIM card. HTH
I will try this on my way to work. I have another question, is the unit still charging when its on the base even though the charge light is not on? Thanks
I had same problem, if you flash with old t-mo rom it boots up everytime and will allow you to reflash radio stack.
http://www.t-mobile.com/pocketpcupgrade
hello pdageek and thanks for the suggestions. I have left my unit on at the splash screen with the blank g and r for about 5 2 minute sessions with no luck. Im hesitant to leave it on too long and have it eat up my battery. How long in total did it take your pda to boot up with the corrupt radio upgrade?
Sirseymore, the problem I have right now is that I cant even get it past the splash screen, since the OS is not booting up I cant see the unti via active sync.
You can't just it leave setting there with the blank screen you have to keep
doing the soft resets, until it boots!
Also to speed things up a bit during some of your soft resets try holding the volume control button, it similar to holding the hand of a sick person.
I know it sounds funny but hey what the hell, I did it! :wink:
One last note it also might help if you do a hard reset while holding the volume conrol buttom. I know that also sounds funny but hey I did that too! :wink:
HTH
Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. I ended up loade the latest tmobile rom via the loader, I let the pda sit at the Tmobile splash screen for 15 minutes until it booted into CE. Next I copied the necessary files for the RSU into the windows folder, ran the executable and all is working now.
Once again thanks for all the great people in this forum.
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Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. I ended up loade the latest tmobile rom via the loader, I let the pda sit at the Tmobile splash screen for 15 minutes until it booted into CE. Next I copied the necessary files for the RSU into the windows folder, ran the executable and all is working now.
Once again thanks for all the great people in this forum.
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When you say Latest tmobile rom do you mean the 4.00.10 or the latest rom off of Tmobile's Website?
I got the same problem as you did blank g and r
Let me know Thanks, Allen
I'm in the same boat. I was running 4.00.05/stock 6.18 RS on T-Mobile USA.
I decided to try to do the Radio Stack upgrade by copying the extracted rsupgrade and monitor files to the device, and running them. It hung at 13%, so I soft-reset, and it hung at the blank G, blank R, 4.00.05 screen.
I tried turning GSM off in the bootloader, and have removed my SIM card. No luck.
Then, I flashed to the 4.00.10 ROM via bootloader, and I'm still sitting at the G/R screen. I have soft reset a few times, but that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I haven't left it for longer than 3 minutes or so before I get so anxious that I try another soft reset.
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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I'm in the same boat. I was running 4.00.05/stock 6.18 RS on T-Mobile USA.
I decided to try to do the Radio Stack upgrade by copying the extracted rsupgrade and monitor files to the device, and running them. It hung at 13%, so I soft-reset, and it hung at the blank G, blank R, 4.00.05 screen.
I tried turning GSM off in the bootloader, and have removed my SIM card. No luck.
Then, I flashed to the 4.00.10 ROM via bootloader, and I'm still sitting at the G/R screen. I have soft reset a few times, but that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I haven't left it for longer than 3 minutes or so before I get so anxious that I try another soft reset.
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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Well i just got mine working FINALLY, what i did was flashed the rom to 4.00.10 and then did a soft reset let it sit for 15 minutes and then it came to the Align screen blah blah blah So just be patient and let the device sit for 15 minutes or so
Good Luck
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Well i just got mine working FINALLY, what i did was flashed the rom to 4.00.10 and then did a soft reset let it sit for 15 minutes and then it came to the Align screen blah blah blah So just be patient and let the device sit for 15 minutes or so
Good Luck
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I let mine sit, and after about 15 minutes, it did finally come back up. I was able to copy the files and manually run the 6.24 RS upgrade, and I think everything is going to be OK now.. *crosses fingers*
I let mine sit, and after about 15 minutes, it did finally come back up. I was able to copy the files and manually run the 6.24 RS upgrade, and I think everything is going to be OK now.. *crosses fingers*
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Well mine is working very good i havent came acoss any errors yet All i did was do the regular upgrade to 4.00.10 and got to 13% on Radio Stack Upgrade when it errored so i took it out did a few Soft Reset's no luck so i flashed the 4.00.10 Rom through the wallaby bootloader got it up waited patiently for CE to load... loaded after about 15 minutes at that time it was running terribly slow and when i got it up i had no service because i had no Radio Stack so i then loaded up this old radio stack well not so old but it was version 4.21 i then soft reset the device started the 4.00.10 install it went through the Radio Stack then the Rom update with absolutley NO errors or conflicts so everything is working great..
Heres something to keep in mind DONT Upgrade To Tmobile Rom 4.00.10 With the radio stack version A.20.10 Or you will be doing what i had to do!
i want to say thanks to all the great people out there posting
Thanks, Allen
JoshB said:
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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My suggestion is this when you're in deep dodo, try it all! :wink:
Because as your seeing what works for some doesn't always
work for others.
Reflect, sorry I wasnt able to answer the specifics of the rom earlier, I was talking about th 4.00.10 version. Im glad you were able to fix the problem. :wink:
After waiting the 15 minutes to recover from the blank G/R screen, and successfully upgrading the Radio Stack to 6.24 and the ROM to 4.00.10, I've been using it for a day or so now, and I am pleased with the new ROM and radio stack.
Biggest plus for me is that GPRS now stays "always-on", even when the unit is turned off/suspended. I also like the fact that AIM 2.0, and PDF/PowerPoint viewers are included in the ROM.
As far as stability, I have had a couple of lockups (cleared by soft resets), and one spontaneous soft reset, but these could have been caused by software that I have installed (SpB GPRS Monitor, StocksAndWeatherToday, Journal Bar, Battery Bar, PocketNav, AE Uptime, Fonix VoiceDial Premium, Resco Explorer 2003).
I have had a couple of instances where the GPRS connection stops transferring any data, but still shows as connected. Since there's no way to turn off GPRS (SpB GPRS Monitor has a Disconnect button, but it doesn't seem to work), I can clear this condition by turning the phone off (not the unit, but the phone/radio) then turning it back on and reconnecting GPRS.
Thanks to everyone on this forum for your help, support, and ideas! This is a great amateur developer community.
JoshB
P.S. - Reflect, sorry I didn't answer your IM. I was in bed...
OK, I am going to try this once more since I can't stand having a useless phone...lol
I *had* the 4.00.05 ROM and the newest at&t radio stack on my T-Mobile phone (with TM service).
Attempted to install the T-Mobile 4.00.10 rom and associated radio stack via the .exe method over that, and it failed.
After that, I tried reverting back to the old T-Mobile 3.14 rom, via the sd card method. That seems to have loaded, but the GSM is still screwed.
Currently, when I start up the phone, I get the Welcome to T-Mobile startup screen, with 3.14 in the bottom corner. After a minute the G with no number after it is there, and below that, instead of an R is a U? (Maybe because I don't have the sim card in?) With no number. Then I get the "bing" sound, and it goes to a blank screen.
Reading through the posts here, it sounds like I should write the 4.00.10 ROM to the unit with the SD card, then wait for it to start up?
Should I have the sim card in?
When should I try the soft-resetting?
Just as an update, so far so good. I wrote the 4.00.10 rom to the unit with the sd card. Did a hard reset like it told me to. Now starts up with the T-Mobile Test only Not for sale screen. Shows 4.00.10, G with nothing after it, and R with nothing after it. It now stays at this screen though, instead of going to the blank screen. I guess this is a good sign, I am in a position others have been in. Yay! Waiting on it now to do something...anything, and I will attempt the radio fix.
Hello! First time poster here.
I have a Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard G3) that was stuck at the bootloader screen (red green and blue bars).
I was able to get the Button ROM (IPL & SPL 1.05) loaded onto device and it was working. I was able to place calls, send messages, etc.
Well, I was following the guides here on this site for unlocking and ran through the unlocking procedure, at which point I attempted to load the T-Mobile ROM (2.60 is what hte IPL and SPL shows).
However, while loading the ROM it failed at 85% giving an Error 302. The device started to reboot over and over again, never getting past the bootloader screen.
I am able to get it to a stable bootloader screen by powering the device off and then connecting it to a wall charger for awhile (i have varied the times, usually I let it sit for more than 10 minutes). I will then connect it back to the PC and try to flash the rom back to the button rom, but it has started doing it on the button rom as well!
Does anyone have any ideas? I have been scouring the forums and haven't found anything yet. I do have the Multi-port/USB TTY program, but I can't seem to find any commands to help me out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Update:
I was able to access the device from the TTY (while it was at the bootloader).
I entered in the password (BsaD5SeoA) then entered in the command: ruurun 0 followed by ResetDevice.
The device rebooted at the Button Rom came up! However, it is currently stuck on a customization program....installing Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB
Ok, at this point I'd try the following things. First, hard reset. On reboot, go thru the whole screen alignment. Don't worry about setting date/time, you won't need it. When the screen gets to where it says Customization In 3 Seconds IMMEDIATLY SOFT RESET. You don't want it to customise. Now, it should work normally. Try to flash tmo rom. It will hang at 85% for a while. If that doesn't work, flash from the bootloader screen. Just go into bootlader, (hold camera, stylus into reset hole), after plugging up usb make sure you theres a usb at bottm of screen, and flash your rom.
Thanks for the reply witch.
I tried what you suggested, and I'm still having problems. Whenever the device attempts to flash, the screen will go blank and start endlessly cycling through the bootloader.
I was able to repeat what i did earlier, and got it back to working w/ the button rom. At least I am assuming its button rom. The numbers aren't really matching what button rom was originally. Button was 1.05 IPL and SPL, but the device still shows 2.26.
I checked the version screen to get some numbers, just in case.
ROM Version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM Date: 6/7/06
Radio Version: 02.25.11
Protocol Version: 4.1.13.12
Any thoughts on why it won't let me flash? I'm a little leary about attempting any ROM upgrades now that I have it a (hopefully) working state. I am going to let the battery charge overnight (was dead after trying everything) and try making some phone calls w/ it tomorrow and test other functionalities.
I've tried just about everything and it keeps messing up. Here's what happened:
I got this phone in April from a local craigslist ad. The battery he gave me was old and only lasted half a day, so I ordered one off Ebay (big mistake!). I put it in and it has worked fine for the last 8 months. But one day last week, I went 2 days without charging the phone. Apparently the battery was in the phone the whole time while it drained to 0% (never had let it do that before). When I tried to turn the screen on, it wouldn't. I plugged it in, saw that it had 0 battery left, and left it there to charge.
Ever since then, whenever I've tried to make a call it would either:
-Freeze
-"Dialing..." forever
-Make the call but when I want to end, the sound goes off but the counter keeps going. I can't make anymore calls until I restart the phone
But if I restart the phone, 90% of the time it will show "No GSM" on startup and the phone will not connect to AT&T.
Also, in device information, the radio version does not show up.
Before anything started messing up, I was running Schap's v4.31 WM6 and I think radio version 1.3-something
I have tried:
-official WM5 ROM from AT&T (installed but No GSM error)
-official WM6 ROM from AT&T (always gets stuck at 11% and doesn't install)
-Schap's v4.31 installs fine every time but I get No GSM error
-Radio 1.47.00.10 installs and will work for 1 or 2 calls but then freezes and the No GSM error comes back when I restart
-Radio 1.48.00.00 installs and will work for 1 or 2 calls but then freezes and the No GSM error comes back when I restart
-Radio 1.54.07.00 is stuck at 0% and stays there for hours
-Radio 1.54.30.10 tells me I have the wrong device ID
I'm posting here as a last resort after spending a week on this forum reading on how to fix this phone.
Any ideas or is it toast?
I think about the only thing to try would be to reflash the shipped radio rom. You may need to find out what that 1.3-something actually was and reflash. May fix the problem.
No guarantees though s this is the radio rom and its a mongrel of a thing, causes the most bricks.
Good luck...
Was having similar problems with the radio. No GSM at boot up and could not access phone once booted. No matter what radio I try it gets stuck flashing at 0%. I took the sim out and rebooted the phone. It booted much faster and now the device id tells me this:
Operator Version: PDAviet.net
ROM Version : DVH_V27_BS
ROM Date : 10/30/08
Radio Version : 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version : 32.86.u.7020.23h
ExtROM version : Black(Basic).
Before with the sim installed I got nothing under radio version and protocol version. I can open the phone now but it says The sim card is missing.....Emergency Calls Only. I have been reading for days and days through the XDA guides and Wiki stuff and nothing seems to work. After a try flashing a radio and it gets stuck, I have to use mtty.exe and use set 16 0 to reboot OS. Every now and then the phone will not respond with mtty.exe and I use a sd card with a Splash1, Splash2 and OS only to revive the phone. What should I do next?
Joe
Hello, my friend brings me HTC HD2 T8585 yesterday. It seems like it's not T-mobile (white "call" and "end" buttons, no t-mobile label on the top). It freezes on "Energy star", just writes ROM and radio version on the bottom left and freezes. Now it has radio 2.09.51.xxx. If I try to update it to xx.50.xx it stops switching on, recognising by USB and charging at all. Totally bricked. But I have found strange way to reanimate it. I'm pulling battery out (for 5-10 minutes), reset HD2 few times by red button, insert it back, push reset few times again, plug USB cable inside, charging battery 5 minutes by external 5V adapter is also helps sometimes (now it has 3.85V), and sometimes it possible to switch it on (1 time on 10 tryings). When it switched on, it's possible to update radio back to xx.51.xx version and after that it switches on very distinctly, but freezes on Energy star again (it refuses to boot any flashed rom). It's possible to install android on this HTC with xx.50.xx radio. I did it and it works (but freezes then I'm trying to make a call). Of course to boot android on xx.50.xx I need to pull and insert battery, press reset and make special magic dance...
I have a loop here: to boot android I need new Radio Update.
To switch the phone on without magic spells I need old 2.09.51 Radio.
Sometimes it's possible to boot firmware on 2.09.51. I don't know how i got it, but after 5 minutes of freezing on "energy star" it booted up stock firmware i flashed before.
I don't know what to do. Is it hardware failure?
I'm not sure what you have, but there's no "energy star" on my device?!
any screenshots for the device/the screen that it freezes on?
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olegmjk said:
Hello, my friend brings me HTC HD2 T8585 yesterday. It seems like it's not T-mobile (white "call" and "end" buttons, no t-mobile label on the top). It freezes on "Energy star", just writes ROM and radio version on the bottom left and freezes. Now it has radio 2.09.51.xxx. If I try to update it to xx.50.xx it stops switching on, recognising by USB and charging at all. Totally bricked. But I have found strange way to reanimate it. I'm pulling battery out (for 5-10 minutes), reset HD2 few times by red button, insert it back, push reset few times again, plug USB cable inside, charging battery 5 minutes by external 5V adapter is also helps sometimes (now it has 3.85V), and sometimes it possible to switch it on (1 time on 10 tryings). When it switched on, it's possible to update radio back to xx.51.xx version and after that it switches on very distinctly, but freezes on Energy star again (it refuses to boot any flashed rom). It's possible to install android on this HTC with xx.50.xx radio. I did it and it works (but freezes then I'm trying to make a call). Of course to boot android on xx.50.xx I need to pull and insert battery, press reset and make special magic dance...
I have a loop here: to boot android I need new Radio Update.
To switch the phone on without magic spells I need old 2.09.51 Radio.
Sometimes it's possible to boot firmware on 2.09.51. I don't know how i got it, but after 5 minutes of freezing on "energy star" it booted up stock firmware i flashed before.
I don't know what to do. Is it hardware failure?
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by energy star, do you mean the energy rom boot screen? The energy rom WILL NOT boot with a ..51.. radio. It must have a ..50.. radio for it to work.
OR - have you been flashing custom boot screens? there is an 'energy star' bootscreen, made to look like a PC bios boot screen, is that what you mean?
flashing a radio without HSPL, , you are mistaken, that cannot be done.
we need more direct info to help, i'm afraid. Screen shots or at least full filenames of what you have flashed LAST would be great.
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we need more direct info to help, i'm afraid. Screen shots or at least full filenames of what you have flashed LAST would be great.
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Okay I'll try to tell full story. This phone was previosly updated to custom W.M. 6.5 rom (by my friend's friend I don't know him directly). I don't know which rom he used. May be he changed splash screen (wow I found it! i always thought it's real boot time proccess for HTC HD2 ) . Yesterday my friend brought this phone to me with two problems: 1: slow and not stable booting (sometimes it freezed on splash screen 2: After (and if) it loads WM, it crashes in very short time to screen full of green colour. So I tryed to install Hyper Droid. First I downloaded HSPL4 and updated HSPL from 1.66.0000 to 2.08.HSPL . After that I tryed to install MAGLDR and phone showed only Energy Star splash screen. After short googling I decided to update radio. After updating it to 2.15.50 phone switched off and i was not able to switch it on (like described in this post). I disconnected battery and after few tryings it switched on and loads MAGLD, i prepared partition (150MB file) and update zipped rom from SD card. Between these steps I disconnected battery many times, because it was impossible to switch phone on after reboot. I spend about 2 hours and Android was installed but phone freezed after 2 minutes (charging animation stoped and it didn't respond on buttons). Also I got 100% freezing then I tryed to make a call.
I tryed different version of Radio (about 7) and found 2.x.51.x working more stable (phone switching on by pressing button or connecting usb cable) . 2.x.50.x all have same switching on issues ;( . Now I updated HSPL to 3.03.HSPL and found that it (?) resolved issue with charging LED (it stayed ON after usb cable disconnecting) . Now I'm downloading stock 1.66 region free firmware and will try to flash it..
newbies can't make link to photos
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I found LEO of my friend is from Singapoure (thanks this) ) s/n: SH0CLNW03xxx . I tryed my s\n on htc singapoure support site and now i'm downloading original firmware!
After further researching I decided this phone has battery/mainboard failure. It freezes and makes green screen of death randomly, especialy often under high power consuption or while disconnecting USB cable. I flashed Rom directly from SD card, because usb update didn't work for me. Now it has stock firmware with stock splash screen. 3.03.0000 SPL and 2.15.50 radio. I'm giving up. Thank you all, here are a lot of useful information.
Did you do a hard reset after flashing the stock ROM. if that didn't do the trick, you could send it to maintenance now that it has stock WinMo on it.
Yes i did hard reset, it didn't help, I think it's need a bit work with soldering dryer. May be CPU or other chip has bad connection to mainboard... I've found i can get 100% GSOD by shacking phone or knocking its back cover. I don't know why it has difference with 51 and 50 radio. Now if it's freezed i'm pulling out the battery for one minute, and it switches on with 95% warranty. With radio 51 it switches on without need of battery removing.