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Vibrate on ring and 1 handed texting

I am after a utility, preferably free, that will enable the XDA2 to vibrate when it rings.
At the moment the only way I can get it to vibrate is by selecting it from the volume menu, but this then mutes the ringer.
Also I am after a utility similar to finger clix that will allow you to write a text message one handed.
Any ideas would be welcome.
Cheers

cheapapples said:
I am after a utility, preferably free, that will enable the XDA2 to vibrate when it rings.
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No need for a utility - just go to Start -> Settings -> Phone, and in the first drop-down list select "vibrate and ring".
Also I am after a utility similar to finger clix that will allow you to write a text message one handed.
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This is more difficult. There is no T9 style text input program, probably because nobody has the necessary database. The only thing that might help you is the Full Screen Keyboard by Spb (see http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com ).
Cheers
Daniel

Concerning your vibrate whilst ringing problem, I know a GREAT free app that lives right here on this forum, if you haven’t come across it yet its called PocketZenPhone, the thread can be found here, its very long, right now it's at 45 pages :shock: :shock: so I recommend you start reading from about 20 odd pages back to get the gist of where the app is heading in the future.
This program allows you to set up 5 different profiles for example vibrate, quiet, normal, loud and off. It has the ability to control both BT and Radio.
Anyway now I’m just rambling, just go check the program out.
You can download the latest version from here.

Thanks for your responses guys,
I can't believe I missed that phone setting, what an idiot.
I'll have a butchers at pocketzenpone to, thanks.

Calendar gives no reminders on Jasjar

Hello,
I am new on Windows Mobile, coming from Nokia 9500, so I feel a little bit stupid, because maybe I did something wrong.
So when I set a reminder in the calendar I hear nothing any more, neither a notification... abslutely nothing.
The reminders on Outlook on the PC just work normally on the same appointments.
Settings:
[email protected]:
Events : on ---- Programs + Notifications : on
Screen taps and hardware buttons :| off
Tab notifications, Event: reminders: Plays sound : on Alarm1
Dislplay message on screen and flashlight both are on
I did a soft reset, and I played a little bit with different sounds when the problem seemed to have begun.
When the PC however does the alarm it nicely switches the alarm off in the Jasjar.
My phone is quite useless without a calendar warning.
Huib

My Jasjar becomes quite useless without an agenda that warns
Nobody has a clue?
I can set the agenda but nothing happens. The time just passes but no warnings whatsoever.
Huib

Oh hell, sounds like the alarm bug may be making an appearance on WM5...that would be DISASTEROUS.
Do this for us; download trial version of Pocket Mechanic (www.antontomov.com) and go to the notifications queue module. Click the button marked "Dup" or "duplicates" and tell us if it found any dups, and if so what they are (they will be tagged and yellow).
Just in case it's a stupidly simple thing, check the following;
- Can u play the alarm1.wav file from file explorer?
- Are you DEFINITELY setting a reminder for each agenda entry
- Is this reminder set to go 0 minutes before (ie don;t set a reminder for 5 mins time with an alarm for 30 mins before)
- settings>sounds&notifications>alarms>ticked
- Volume not 0: turn volume to 0 then back up again

craigiecraigie4 said:
Oh hell, sounds like the alarm bug may be making an appearance on WM5...that would be DISASTEROUS.
Do this for us; download trial version of Pocket Mechanic (www.antontomov.com) and go to the notifications queue module. Click the button marked "Dup" or "duplicates" and tell us if it found any dups, and if so what they are (they will be tagged and yellow).
Just in case it's a stupidly simple thing, check the following;
- Can u play the alarm1.wav file from file explorer?
- Are you DEFINITELY setting a reminder for each agenda entry
- Is this reminder set to go 0 minutes before (ie don;t set a reminder for 5 mins time with an alarm for 30 mins before)
- settings>sounds&notifications>alarms>ticked
- Volume not 0: turn volume to 0 then back up again
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I may do the antontomov later.
yes I can play alarm1.wav from file explorer.
OK: appointment duration from 16:00 till 16:05
alarm ( " reminder" it is called) 5 minutes before..
at the settings I ticked the Reminder event on play sound and repeat.
I do not see a volume option however.
I see options for flash light ( did never work) and vibration ( the same) I have the feeling it is not so much a sound problem as a problem that nothing is triggered when the moment is there.
Huib

Calendar Reminders confusing!!
I find this calendar thing pretty confusing too. I came to the conclusion that the reminder comes in the form of an on-screen notification and not an alarm, which seems pretty stupid, as you don't want to keep pulling your phone out to see if you have any appointments! :?
I hope I'm wrong, but could someone more knowledgeable in this area please clarify how to get an audible reminder in conjunction with an on-screen one please. And for the record, I know how to set a basic alarm, I just need to be reminded by sound or vibration of my appointments, else I can't get the true benefits of a personal digital assistant!

Wont modifying the "Reminders" settings in the notification tab of "Sounds and Notifications" do it for you???

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mackaby007 said:
I find this calendar thing pretty confusing too. I came to the conclusion that the reminder comes in the form of an on-screen notification and not an alarm, which seems pretty stupid, as you don't want to keep pulling your phone out to see if you have any appointments! :?
I hope I'm wrong, but could someone more knowledgeable in this area please clarify how to get an audible reminder in conjunction with an on-screen one please. And for the record, I know how to set a basic alarm, I just need to be reminded by sound or vibration of my appointments, else I can't get the true benefits of a personal digital assistant!
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I am sure it gave me an audible alarm before I ran into problems. Of course the agenda can warn you if working properly; also with a flash light even(!) or vibrato.
Huib

sub69 said:
Wont modifying the "Reminders" settings in the notification tab of "Sounds and Notifications" do it for you???
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Well to be honest.... I have managed to get sound working on it before...I just can't remember what I did! :lol:
Please, if anyone has the time please explain how I get an alarm to ring in conjunction with the on-screen reminder. For example, when I go go into the calendar app and see the time slots for any given date, I assumed you could simply enter what you wanted reminding of, in that particular timeslot, and then choose to be reminded every 2 hours or something!!??!! I'm a bit perplexed by this. My SE700i worked in this fashion and I never got to grips with the PPC way of doing this. The bloody manual doesn't explain this either!

mackaby007 said:
sub69 said:
Wont modifying the "Reminders" settings in the notification tab of "Sounds and Notifications" do it for you???
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Well to be honest.... I have managed to get sound working on it before...I just can't remember what I did! :lol:
Please, if anyone has the time please explain how I get an alarm to ring in conjunction with the on-screen reminder. For example, when I go go into the calendar app and see the time slots for any given date, I assumed you could simply enter what you wanted reminding of, in that particular timeslot, and then choose to be reminded every 2 hours or something!!??!! I'm a bit perplexed by this. My SE700i worked in this fashion and I never got to grips with the PPC way of doing this. The bloody manual doesn't explain this either!
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You're absolutely right about how to set the reminder, but the type of reminder (sound, message, vibrate) is set in Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications Tab > Change Event to "Reminders" and see what the settings are? Give it a go, I'm sure you must have "Display message on screen" ticked and "Play sound" unticked?

sub69 said:
Wont modifying the "Reminders" settings in the notification tab of "Sounds and Notifications" do it for you???
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Thanks for thinking about my problem but I checked those settings out very prcisely.
I have ticked: play sound and repeat. I also have the display message ticked. I Use Alarm1 to keep it simple.
It is however possible that here is where the problem started.
Other problem, maybe related, is, that the phone ringtone sound can sometimes change in the last installed personal ringtone.
I changed it back of course.
I have a lot of people given a ringtone with their name in it, to take away the need of opening to see who is calling.
instead of a sound I record : this is John etc etc. But of course not new to your guys.
Works great, but sometimes my phone ring changes in e.g. " peter calling" as main ring tone.
But in the calendar case there is not even a reminder on the screen. The phone is just no triggering at all.
huib
Huib

Oh....baffled then. Sorry!

Re: I'll get to the bottom of this yet!!
sub69 said:
the type of reminder (sound, message, vibrate) is set in Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications Tab > Change Event to "Reminders" and see what the settings are? Give it a go, I'm sure you must have "Display message on screen" ticked and "Play sound" unticked?
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Nope all are checked! I'll look into it more seriously later today and post my findings back here. Thanks for your help. :lol: :x :? 8)

SOunds like hard-reset time dudes!
Just in case you think it's a missing feature that you have to live with, it's not: the calendar DOES alarm for every reminder, provided you set that. You get an on-screen notification and sound - depending on your settings. Further, this can be defaulted so that every new appointment does this without you having to think about it. Exactly the same as all previous PPC devices.

I had the same problem.
Hard reset is the only solution...
Be carefull what s/w you install on Jasjar!

geovass said:
I had the same problem.
Hard reset is the only solution...
Be carefull what s/w you install on Jasjar!
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-Listpro
-Ewallet
-SPB GPRS monitor
Thats it!
Any of those three suspect?
Huib

geovass said:
I had the same problem.
Hard reset is the only solution...
Be carefull what s/w you install on Jasjar!
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This will be my first reset in Windows world ever.
Any tips and hints what to take care of before pushing the button?
I come from Nokia 9200 and up and there was a great backup facility before you hard reset.
As backup software is not available: Any tips and hints on what to write down before I do it?
I also saw that Windows may come with separate upgrade software.
http://www.expansys.nl/forumthread.asp?code=119353&thread=69
(AKU1/AKU2)
Any use to wait for that first?
Huib

herpi said:
geovass said:
I had the same problem.
Hard reset is the only solution...
Be carefull what s/w you install on Jasjar!
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-Listpro
-Ewallet
-SPB GPRS monitor
Thats it!
Any of those three suspect?
Huib
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The only s/w i had was the ewallet.
Get rid of it and reset. Now try if it works.

geovass said:
The only s/w i had was the ewallet.
Get rid of it and reset. Now try if it works.
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You meant soft reset or hard reset?
I presume hard reset, because after several soft resets without ewallet I still have the problem.
huib

See 'Help' application for Reminders in Calendar!!
Stupid me! There's an in depth guide on hoe to use the calendar with Reminders in the 'Help' application on the Jasjar. Too many options for my liking, just confusing matters. basically, alot of the options are for syncing purposes and if no else has access to your PC, it really won't matter wether you set-up categories or not, unless you need your contacts etc grouped.
Bottom line, buy an easier to use application.

Alarm bug? What's that?
Some time ago I installed and played a NES emulator on my xda for a few hours wearing the headset, and after that two things happened; Sound didn't work, it got permanently stuck on headset mode (I fixed that) and 2), the clock disappeared from the upper menu bar, never to return. Alarms didn't work (at all) from that point either. Prior to this it had worked 90% of the time, with some mysterious exceptions that I think maybe your "alarm bug" could explain.

Noob Question - Where are the Ring Profiles?

I am new to this whole windows mobile stuff, on previous mobiles i have had i have always been able to easily switch between ring profiles (silent, loud, vibrate etc.) however i cant find a way of doing it on my O2 Mini S, am i missing something obvious?

Yeah, something fairly obvious..... the phone doesn't really have them.
You can choose silent, vibrate or ring though via clicking the speaker though. Click and choose off, vibrate etc...

Depends how many profiles you want!
Std (basic) usage:
Set ring tone in the sounds & notifications settings page
Adjust volume on LHS slider
Hold slider "down" to enter vibrate mode (and up to go back to normal)
Click the speaker (top of the windows display) to adjust the master & phone vol (not incall vol, that is adjusted by the slider whilest in a call)
Multi-profile way:
Get software, i use Pocket Zen Phone, but there are others.
Fight through the software config (PZP isn't the easiest to config! but seems good once setup)
I now have:
Sleep mode (quiet but changes to home mode in the morning at 9:30)
Sleep-work mode (as above but gets noisy at 4:45am so the alarm wakes me up for work @5)
Home mode: General mid settings
Work mode: Max vol so i hear it
I can also use windows to adjust in the short term, and simple re-sellect the profile i want to go back to my personal settings (ie a meeting at work i can make it go to vibrate then back to loud after)

yeah i did see that but its not really suitable, reason being i actually want the ring tones to change. The ring tones i use whilst not at work are very unsuitable to use whilst i am at work/meetings etc. Its a pain having to go and change this ring tone each time!

You can also quickly switch to vibrate by holding down the Communications key (left side at the top) and to switch back to ring you hold it down again. Another way is to move the volume slider on the left down and then back up.

Seem to recall using a program called Mortring for this sort of thing but that was a while back, don't know if it's WM5 compliant though.
try searching for Mortring over the site

thanks for the suggestions - i'll give them a try

Yes as somebody suggested PocketZenPhone is a good profile management software.
Also give PhoneAlarm a try. Though this profile management utility is still in Beta-2 phase but to me it looks more powerful than PocketZenPhone, in that it also offers Repeat Alarm function. For each of the 7 possible profiles you can set up a different ringtone. So maybe this addresses your requirement to be able to change ringtones with just a click.
Kind Regards

There is also a profiles management software that ships with the Eten M600
I wonder if anyone tryied to run that on the Wizard?
Arnon

s4vva said:
yeah i did see that but its not really suitable, reason being i actually want the ring tones to change. The ring tones i use whilst not at work are very unsuitable to use whilst i am at work/meetings etc. Its a pain having to go and change this ring tone each time!
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Check out PZP - change every setting for each profile from wifi/radio/BT to ring tone (for different alerts, ie ring, message, email, etc) auto-switch with outlook meetings etc.
As i said before, it IS a pain in the ass to config (IMO atleast) but once its set its pretty good (also a tip for config is to set the profiles basically on the pda and then edit the files on windows PC then copy back to pda - made my life much easier and also provides a 100% working and very quick backup for PZP as its far too easy to edit 1 setting and break another!)

Beeble said:
s4vva said:
yeah i did see that but its not really suitable, reason being i actually want the ring tones to change. The ring tones i use whilst not at work are very unsuitable to use whilst i am at work/meetings etc. Its a pain having to go and change this ring tone each time!
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Check out PZP - change every setting for each profile from wifi/radio/BT to ring tone (for different alerts, ie ring, message, email, etc) auto-switch with outlook meetings etc.
As i said before, it IS a pain in the ass to config (IMO atleast) but once its set its pretty good (also a tip for config is to set the profiles basically on the pda and then edit the files on windows PC then copy back to pda - made my life much easier and also provides a 100% working and very quick backup for PZP as its far too easy to edit 1 setting and break another!)
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i am going to try pzp, i'll let you know how i find it. thanks for your help.

WM5 Vibrate Timing

Hope this is the correct forum to post this in.
I am looking for someone to kindly develop a utility that will allow me to alter the standard 5 seconds that the vibrate option is set for within WM5.
As far as I am aware there is nothing out there that does this. HTC support in the UK simply say they don't have an option for doing this (thank you very much, not).
To make myself absolutely clear I am looking for a utility that will allow me to vary and set the length of time the vibrate function works for. The current deafult of 5 seconds not only uses up too much battery power but is a pain to use in a business environment.
The utility should ideally allow me to set the vibrate length to anything I want from 1 to, say, 5 secs in single second steps.
If anyone is able to develop a fully tested tool for this then please let me know.
Many thanks in advance.
WB

@wb: You dont need a tool for this. You can simply make a few simple changes to the registry as shown here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
If you want to change the settings quite frequently, and find editing registry again and again cumbersome, creating a tool for this shouldn't be too difficult and i'll make it when I get time but first try it by hand and see that if it works for you...

Nice tweak but it won't survive a profile switch!
It goes back to default.
Is there a way to make a permanent change?
Secondly, which script should I use if I want, when I receive a call or SMS,
the phone to play the ringtone and at the same time vibrate every 3 seconds for 1 second?

Shantz,
I definitely need a tool for this.
The registry tweak in the wiki only works if you have ring and vibrate set together. In that instance the vibrate lasts for the duration set for the ringtone.
If you set the phone to vibrate only it will ONLY vibrate for the standard 5 secs. It WILL NOT vibrate for any other time period set by the registry change you refer to.
Trust me, I have played with this for hours and got nowhere. I have also been in touch with HTC who confirm that on vibrate only the phone will ALWAYS default to the standard 5 secs as there is no script within WM5 that will allow one to set parameters around the vibrate timelength only.
So to summarise; you can change the vibrate time period so that it aligns with that of the ringtone; however if the phone is on vibrate and you get a notification come through, eg a text message, it will vibrate for the standard 5 secs set within WM5, irrespective of the settings of the registry tweak you refer to in the wiki. The only time the vibrate will use the settings set in the registry key is if you get a phone call come through, in which case it will vibrate for the same length of time set for the ringtone, else it does not work. Hope this is clear.
So can you help please?
Thanks
WB

so then why don't you make an empty ringtone - no sound but a ringtone file nonetheless? With that ringtone selected you say yourself you can vary the length.

Hufkes,
Because that's not what I am looking for. Your suggestion is an inelegant fix, akin to sticking plaster, not a solution.
I don't want to be fiddling about with the phone just before I go into a meeting to set a blank ringtone. I prefer to do what I do now: 2 taps and vibrate is engaged, full stop.
That's why I need a tool that can allow the user to set the vibrate length, something Microsoft should have thought of in the first place!
Anyway thanks for your input.
WB

hey wb: I will make u a tool for this...but ull have to wait for some time...i have an interview coming up next week, so not much time right now...

Yes please me too when you get a chance. Been the thing I have missed the most.
GOOD LUCK with the interview too

Shantz,
Excellent offer very gratefully received. Yep, once you are past the interview give us a shout.
Hope the interview goes well by the way.
Cheers chap, you're a good 'un!
WB

Shantz,
Are you back with us yet to kick this off?
Cheers
WB

Hey wb,
am sorry the interview has been rescheduled for this sunday...so though I do have "some" time but not enough to put into coding, i'm using that extra time to get some extra rest as the past few weeks have been quite hectic, especially the last week where i spent quite a lot of time studying...but dont worry i have a kinda layout in my mind for ur needs...will work on it as soon as im free...

OK mate, cheers.
You had better get that job! Good luck.
WB

finally had the telephonic interview just a couple of minutes ago...lets see if they call me or not..
btw ill start working on ur prog tmrw night if i dont have to go to a frnd's wedding..

I wish you luck.
In terms of the development of this tool, what I had in mind was, say, a script that would pop up some kind of dialogue box which would then allow you to set the duration of the vibrate. Duration could be from 1 seconds to the current 5, in 1 second steps, set either from a drop-down menu or chosen from 5 available time options presented on screen.
Once the vibrate length is set in this way then I would expect to be able to switch vibrate on, as one does now, and then have the vibrate for an incoming message (NOT a telephone call as the vibrate frequency works differently for this) occur for the set duration eg 1 sec or whatever.
Hope this makes sense. If you need more detail in terms of how I see this working, let me know.
Thanks again.
WB

hey wb,
i've just started on the proggie.. However it does not seem possible\feasible to "set" it using the earlier native way. I can fulfill the other options and give u an exe. Whenever u want to set the vibra mode with ur options, u can tap on it or bind to a hardware button. Is that ok?

wb, can you download the attached file and run it on ur ppc. check when u tap (or dbl tap) then does ur device vibrate...just checking whether the vibration code works on ur device or not...

Made a sample app for u...try this and let me know...
just tap on app to create start and stop shortcuts...then click on start shortcut to add notification for device to vibrate for 5 seconds on incoming sms.
jus check and lemme know if it works..this is a very quick implementation so i'll have to keep my fingers crossed

Hello Shantz,
Seems like you got over your illness then.
Just got home and seen your message. Have downloaded the Vibra file to the Tytn.
I ran it and it created the Start & Stop shortcuts as you indicated. Tapped on the Start shortcut but nothing happens. I guess this was not what you were expecting?
Just to be sure I soft booted and ran the whole lot again, same result.
Cheers
WB

yeah, am almost fit now...the fever's fully gone and tonsilitis is almost 60-70% cured..
actually, i had attached two different versions to this thread.
the first version will just make ur phone vibrate for 2 seconds instantaneously.
The 2nd version will not do anything at the very instant when you tap the start shortcut, but will start listening to incoming sms's. When you receive an sms, it will vibrate for 5 seconds...this was the intended behaviour..So let me know if you see anything happening on receiving an sms..

wb, I've found out why the app might not have been working. I use smssetmessagenotification api to notify my app whenever an sms arrives, now I found out online that there are 2 problems related to this:
1. This API is known not to work reliably, infact i found only a handful of ppl out of hundreds who cud get it working and that too sporadically.
2. Ppl suggest that even if interception of sms notification works (by this api or any other method), then ur normal sms functionality will be lost as this notification goes only to the first available receiver and is not "passed-through" to all the listeners.
I'll do some more digging on this but looks like wht u want might not be possible after all (atleast without a "slower" workaround, I think i can set a notification alert on the "unread sms" registry entry and diff it with previous value for any notification to see if there is a new msg and then run the vibra thing...will that work for u?)

Notifications Sound Files

Hi all,
Wondered if anybody knows the location of a sound file I'm looking for and haven't been able to find ?
I have Best Reminder installed and have set Alert-Soft as it's reminder tone, and have also set this sound in Settings-Sounds & Notifications-Notifications, as my alert tone for missed calls, new sms,mms,email etc.
So when a new sms arrives for example, windows should make the Alert-Soft sound once, which it does, then Best Reminder should make the sound every X seconds as specified, but everytime the reminder sounds, windows is playing an extra sound as well, I have attached rough recordings of the two so you can hear the difference.
I think windows is playing this because of the missed calls popup it's displaying everytime the sound is played, so I either want to turn off the popup, which would be preferable but I think impossible, or extract the sound file and replace it with a silent version.
The only way I can find to stop it is by unchecking Notifications (alarms, reminders), but this also turns off all other notification sounds, so there is no initial sound when a sms,mms,email arrives, which is obviously no good.
Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
Thanks Dave.

Found a solution to this in case anyone else is interested :
The file making the sound is \Windows\Alarm2.wav and is also used by some of my other apps, so I didn't want to make it silent.
So I made a silent wave file e.g. I called mine Silent.wav, and place it in \Windows.
Then edit the following registry key HKCU\Control Panel\Notifications\Default\Wave
By default it's set to \Windows\Alarm2.wav so you just need to change the string value to point to the empty sound file \Windows\Silent.wav, and job done.
As far as I can tell this only changes the sound used for notification popups, I've tried all the other apps I use that use Alarm2.wav and they still use it ok.

Hello,
This is the closest thing I could find to an answer to my issue:
I want never to hear the sound "alarm2.wav" again. I hate it. Every time I want to soft reset, every time i want to add a calendar event from email to my calendar (sometimes i have to do like 20 in a row, and i hear that god-awful sound every time) every time any pop-up notifier message appears.
I changed the value for HKCU\Control Panel\Notifications\Default\Wave
to \windows\quietest.wav
In fact I went to all the settings and changed anything that was alarm2.wav to something else...
But to no avail. I cannot replace the file with another "alarm2.wav" as this is a ROM file and cannot be edited. I am so surprised that this has proved to be such a challenge! I have been able to customize so many things, I never would have anticipated so much difficulty in changing a simple sound