I am new to this whole windows mobile stuff, on previous mobiles i have had i have always been able to easily switch between ring profiles (silent, loud, vibrate etc.) however i cant find a way of doing it on my O2 Mini S, am i missing something obvious?
Yeah, something fairly obvious..... the phone doesn't really have them.
You can choose silent, vibrate or ring though via clicking the speaker though. Click and choose off, vibrate etc...
Depends how many profiles you want!
Std (basic) usage:
Set ring tone in the sounds & notifications settings page
Adjust volume on LHS slider
Hold slider "down" to enter vibrate mode (and up to go back to normal)
Click the speaker (top of the windows display) to adjust the master & phone vol (not incall vol, that is adjusted by the slider whilest in a call)
Multi-profile way:
Get software, i use Pocket Zen Phone, but there are others.
Fight through the software config (PZP isn't the easiest to config! but seems good once setup)
I now have:
Sleep mode (quiet but changes to home mode in the morning at 9:30)
Sleep-work mode (as above but gets noisy at 4:45am so the alarm wakes me up for work @5)
Home mode: General mid settings
Work mode: Max vol so i hear it
I can also use windows to adjust in the short term, and simple re-sellect the profile i want to go back to my personal settings (ie a meeting at work i can make it go to vibrate then back to loud after)
yeah i did see that but its not really suitable, reason being i actually want the ring tones to change. The ring tones i use whilst not at work are very unsuitable to use whilst i am at work/meetings etc. Its a pain having to go and change this ring tone each time!
You can also quickly switch to vibrate by holding down the Communications key (left side at the top) and to switch back to ring you hold it down again. Another way is to move the volume slider on the left down and then back up.
Seem to recall using a program called Mortring for this sort of thing but that was a while back, don't know if it's WM5 compliant though.
try searching for Mortring over the site
thanks for the suggestions - i'll give them a try
Yes as somebody suggested PocketZenPhone is a good profile management software.
Also give PhoneAlarm a try. Though this profile management utility is still in Beta-2 phase but to me it looks more powerful than PocketZenPhone, in that it also offers Repeat Alarm function. For each of the 7 possible profiles you can set up a different ringtone. So maybe this addresses your requirement to be able to change ringtones with just a click.
Kind Regards
There is also a profiles management software that ships with the Eten M600
I wonder if anyone tryied to run that on the Wizard?
Arnon
s4vva said:
yeah i did see that but its not really suitable, reason being i actually want the ring tones to change. The ring tones i use whilst not at work are very unsuitable to use whilst i am at work/meetings etc. Its a pain having to go and change this ring tone each time!
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Check out PZP - change every setting for each profile from wifi/radio/BT to ring tone (for different alerts, ie ring, message, email, etc) auto-switch with outlook meetings etc.
As i said before, it IS a pain in the ass to config (IMO atleast) but once its set its pretty good (also a tip for config is to set the profiles basically on the pda and then edit the files on windows PC then copy back to pda - made my life much easier and also provides a 100% working and very quick backup for PZP as its far too easy to edit 1 setting and break another!)
Beeble said:
s4vva said:
yeah i did see that but its not really suitable, reason being i actually want the ring tones to change. The ring tones i use whilst not at work are very unsuitable to use whilst i am at work/meetings etc. Its a pain having to go and change this ring tone each time!
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Check out PZP - change every setting for each profile from wifi/radio/BT to ring tone (for different alerts, ie ring, message, email, etc) auto-switch with outlook meetings etc.
As i said before, it IS a pain in the ass to config (IMO atleast) but once its set its pretty good (also a tip for config is to set the profiles basically on the pda and then edit the files on windows PC then copy back to pda - made my life much easier and also provides a 100% working and very quick backup for PZP as its far too easy to edit 1 setting and break another!)
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i am going to try pzp, i'll let you know how i find it. thanks for your help.
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I made a small application (freeware in the first version) which allows you to fix the SMS feature of PPC2003PE.
You know: new SMS message arrived and only a short sound is played. The screen is black. (To be precise: your device was turn on to play the sound, but the screen was turn off - turn off the video buffer completely - to save battery. But I think in this way it is not working conveniently to read the message easy and useful.)
8)
Now your PPC PE device will wakup and display the SMS message popup bouble info. And you can read it right now!
You can free download:
http://geocities.com/myppcpe2003/PEFIX10FREE.zip
http://geocities.com/myppcpe2003/PEFIX10FREE.PPC2002.STRONGARM.cab
or from pocketgear.com (f.e. search for PPC2003PE)
This application displays a small icon on traybar, where you can access the options dialog or turn on/off the fix (SMS Wakeup). If you check the menu SMS Wakeup, your device will wakeup when the new SMS message arrived. Of course it will suspend again ion the time you set in general Settings/Power of your device. Then you can decide you can hide the icon and set it to auto-run after the soft-reset, so this application will work transparently.
On the home page, there is no descriptions or screens today. I will add it later when the shareware version will start (see the grayed options). Soon. I hope.
I'm awaiting any suggestions or comments: [email protected]
I 've tried it with 4.00.16 and it works fine. You rock! Thnx!
I like the fact that it keeps the screen off, but would love to fix another problem with message notification. Could you make it repeat the notification sound?
why?
why you want to repeat alert?
I tried PocketPlus which gives you repeatable sound alerts. But in the short time, I decided I did not wanted to use it in this way. Just because it disturbes me too much (for example when I'm on the meeting), or... if I use "infinitible" it can discharge battery.
Any way.
Simpliest solution, if you want bigger alert with more attentions, it is to use a longer and lounder sound file. You can set any sound file as your alert. Even with the play-time in minutes.
But.
Please check my program MY|PHONE|PROFILE.
It will give you more options to set alert files and action. You can use storage card to keep your sound files. You can change volume. And in the next version 5.0. it will give you the option to repeat alerts: 1, 3 or 5 times. I use: longer sound file in one Profile when I'm driving or shoping, and shorter sound file (just "gong once") when I'm on the meeting, and not sound at all but only vibrate when I'm on the cinema. To change the Profile - it is only the one touch of the screen.
Selly question will this work on PPC 3.17.03 PEFIX10FREE.PPC2002.STRONGARM.cab i notice it says PPC2002.
THX
thanks,
it is just my mistypped, but it works for PPC2003 only, of course
Just another question: I noticed that Phone Edition Fixes occurs in the list of actual apps. It is a bit inconvience, because if you select close all apps also the PEF will be closed. As look at Phonext which occurs in the taskbar, but doesnot occurs in the list of running apps.
Jeffrey
why you want to repeat alert?
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In case I miss it. One of the things MS still hasn't fixed is that alerts don't play through the speaker if you have the headphones plugged in. Since it rings that way, obviously it is possible (any programmers want to take THAT on as a project?). So I miss things throughout the day since I leave the headphones plugged in while I do my business but don't always have them in my ears.
Does Pocket Plus repeat SMS alerts? I use SuperAlert, but it doesn't do those, just reminders.
Please check my program MY|PHONE|PROFILE.
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I was one of the early testers over on PDAphonehome and just ended up with too many problems. I may give it another shot and see if it's stable now. I liked the idea.
Carlos said:
In case I miss it. One of the things MS still hasn't fixed is that alerts don't play through the speaker if you have the headphones plugged in.
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For a work-related project we're working on, we are also very, very interested in making sounds come out of the speaker when the headphones are plugged in.
I am looking for a way to set independently the
pda sound: like for notifications & alerts
phone sound: what you hear wen IN a call
ringer sound: what you hear when you are called, before you pick up
I noticed phone & ringer share the same setting: So whenever I set the phone sound louder (because i am in a loud environment), the earth begins to shake when I receive the next call.
Any help / suggestions :?:
pda sound: System events can be turned on/off with a tick at Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Volume , but the slider affects all system.
phone sound actually is the system sound.
ringer sound: it should be possible to set it separately in WM2003 - I know nothing about it (still PPC2002PE - xda-developers Special Edition ROM v1.2)
By the way, you can adjust the ringer volume in the entire .WAV file with SoundForge or something like that. And then - volume up!
I figured out to change the volume of the wav / mid.
But still: It should be possible to have the three different volumes set separately.
In WM2003 there are 2 volume sliders: system (notifications & more) and phone (phone & ringer)
Have you seen the Freeware called PocketZenPhone, just follow the thread on this forum. It does what you are looking for plus more. Hope this is what you mean otherwise sorry.
I tried PocketZenPhone.
To me it introduces easy acces to preset profiles very neatly.
But I did not notice that I could set different volumes for phone sound & ringer . . . .
Maybe I have to give it another try.
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I tried PocketZenPhone.
To me it introduces easy acces to preset profiles very neatly.
But I did not notice that I could set different volumes for phone sound & ringer . . . .
Maybe I have to give it another try.
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Yes it does, but it is only since the past few pages that this was implemented and works great.
So I'm looking for a ringing tone profiling program that;
-can be used fast; i.e. can be put on a today-screen for quick customization or can be used with hotkeys
-can switch between different profiles, f.ex., full silent mode, vibrate only, high volume, low volume etc.
And also I'd like it so that alarms have sound, but ring tone and SMS do not! Just like I would have on my Nokia at night; alarm rings in the morning so I can wake up but SMS and calls are silent.
-John
Hi John,
I'm currently using Phone Profile http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=217991 for this. It's freeware, but you might want to have a look at PocketZenPhone, not free more capable.
Regards, M
Also look for Ppc profiles pro
Using pocket zen phone, its a ***** to configure, but once its up & running it works well.
i am using pocket zen phone, cheap software and does everything (and more) than i need.
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Also look for Ppc profiles pro
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Which is free too:-
http://www.modaco.com/Reminder_PPCProfiles_Pro_free_at_MoDaCo_-t235506.html
So I can go in and change the ring settings (vibrate, ringtone, volume, etc), but is there a quick way to switch between profiles (normal, meeting, silent)?
I don't know of any inbuilt function for this but their is a 3rd party app that might achieve the desired effect.
Pocket Zen Phone ( http://zendrui.free.fr/)
I just the volume slider to switch between vibrate and such. Different from a phone, but once you get used to it, no much different.
Use the attached profiler cab. only 43 KB, have not tried it myself, but heard good things about it. Let me know how it works out.
thanks koksie. That seems to work well.
Yep, just tried it myself and works allright. Small, simple and does what people need. Uninstalled it again though, since I hardly ever change profiles and if I do, I do it through holding the comm manager button ( for vibrate) or by tapping the speaker icon and switching sound off or on. But a very nice app indeed. Almost a shame I have no use for it.
where did you get this profiler.cab? where is silver bullet? good program, needs update.. cant do ringtones from the ringtone folder.
check here for the latest news/update on the above profile.cab (currently version 1.2.1, the attachment is only version 1.x)[/url]
Here is the updated winmobile profiler. 1.2.1
Pretty good - ms smartphone/nokia type profile chooser.
Hope this is the correct forum to post this in.
I am looking for someone to kindly develop a utility that will allow me to alter the standard 5 seconds that the vibrate option is set for within WM5.
As far as I am aware there is nothing out there that does this. HTC support in the UK simply say they don't have an option for doing this (thank you very much, not).
To make myself absolutely clear I am looking for a utility that will allow me to vary and set the length of time the vibrate function works for. The current deafult of 5 seconds not only uses up too much battery power but is a pain to use in a business environment.
The utility should ideally allow me to set the vibrate length to anything I want from 1 to, say, 5 secs in single second steps.
If anyone is able to develop a fully tested tool for this then please let me know.
Many thanks in advance.
WB
@wb: You dont need a tool for this. You can simply make a few simple changes to the registry as shown here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
If you want to change the settings quite frequently, and find editing registry again and again cumbersome, creating a tool for this shouldn't be too difficult and i'll make it when I get time but first try it by hand and see that if it works for you...
Nice tweak but it won't survive a profile switch!
It goes back to default.
Is there a way to make a permanent change?
Secondly, which script should I use if I want, when I receive a call or SMS,
the phone to play the ringtone and at the same time vibrate every 3 seconds for 1 second?
Shantz,
I definitely need a tool for this.
The registry tweak in the wiki only works if you have ring and vibrate set together. In that instance the vibrate lasts for the duration set for the ringtone.
If you set the phone to vibrate only it will ONLY vibrate for the standard 5 secs. It WILL NOT vibrate for any other time period set by the registry change you refer to.
Trust me, I have played with this for hours and got nowhere. I have also been in touch with HTC who confirm that on vibrate only the phone will ALWAYS default to the standard 5 secs as there is no script within WM5 that will allow one to set parameters around the vibrate timelength only.
So to summarise; you can change the vibrate time period so that it aligns with that of the ringtone; however if the phone is on vibrate and you get a notification come through, eg a text message, it will vibrate for the standard 5 secs set within WM5, irrespective of the settings of the registry tweak you refer to in the wiki. The only time the vibrate will use the settings set in the registry key is if you get a phone call come through, in which case it will vibrate for the same length of time set for the ringtone, else it does not work. Hope this is clear.
So can you help please?
Thanks
WB
so then why don't you make an empty ringtone - no sound but a ringtone file nonetheless? With that ringtone selected you say yourself you can vary the length.
Hufkes,
Because that's not what I am looking for. Your suggestion is an inelegant fix, akin to sticking plaster, not a solution.
I don't want to be fiddling about with the phone just before I go into a meeting to set a blank ringtone. I prefer to do what I do now: 2 taps and vibrate is engaged, full stop.
That's why I need a tool that can allow the user to set the vibrate length, something Microsoft should have thought of in the first place!
Anyway thanks for your input.
WB
hey wb: I will make u a tool for this...but ull have to wait for some time...i have an interview coming up next week, so not much time right now...
Yes please me too when you get a chance. Been the thing I have missed the most.
GOOD LUCK with the interview too
Shantz,
Excellent offer very gratefully received. Yep, once you are past the interview give us a shout.
Hope the interview goes well by the way.
Cheers chap, you're a good 'un!
WB
Shantz,
Are you back with us yet to kick this off?
Cheers
WB
Hey wb,
am sorry the interview has been rescheduled for this sunday...so though I do have "some" time but not enough to put into coding, i'm using that extra time to get some extra rest as the past few weeks have been quite hectic, especially the last week where i spent quite a lot of time studying...but dont worry i have a kinda layout in my mind for ur needs...will work on it as soon as im free...
OK mate, cheers.
You had better get that job! Good luck.
WB
finally had the telephonic interview just a couple of minutes ago...lets see if they call me or not..
btw ill start working on ur prog tmrw night if i dont have to go to a frnd's wedding..
I wish you luck.
In terms of the development of this tool, what I had in mind was, say, a script that would pop up some kind of dialogue box which would then allow you to set the duration of the vibrate. Duration could be from 1 seconds to the current 5, in 1 second steps, set either from a drop-down menu or chosen from 5 available time options presented on screen.
Once the vibrate length is set in this way then I would expect to be able to switch vibrate on, as one does now, and then have the vibrate for an incoming message (NOT a telephone call as the vibrate frequency works differently for this) occur for the set duration eg 1 sec or whatever.
Hope this makes sense. If you need more detail in terms of how I see this working, let me know.
Thanks again.
WB
hey wb,
i've just started on the proggie.. However it does not seem possible\feasible to "set" it using the earlier native way. I can fulfill the other options and give u an exe. Whenever u want to set the vibra mode with ur options, u can tap on it or bind to a hardware button. Is that ok?
wb, can you download the attached file and run it on ur ppc. check when u tap (or dbl tap) then does ur device vibrate...just checking whether the vibration code works on ur device or not...
Made a sample app for u...try this and let me know...
just tap on app to create start and stop shortcuts...then click on start shortcut to add notification for device to vibrate for 5 seconds on incoming sms.
jus check and lemme know if it works..this is a very quick implementation so i'll have to keep my fingers crossed
Hello Shantz,
Seems like you got over your illness then.
Just got home and seen your message. Have downloaded the Vibra file to the Tytn.
I ran it and it created the Start & Stop shortcuts as you indicated. Tapped on the Start shortcut but nothing happens. I guess this was not what you were expecting?
Just to be sure I soft booted and ran the whole lot again, same result.
Cheers
WB
yeah, am almost fit now...the fever's fully gone and tonsilitis is almost 60-70% cured..
actually, i had attached two different versions to this thread.
the first version will just make ur phone vibrate for 2 seconds instantaneously.
The 2nd version will not do anything at the very instant when you tap the start shortcut, but will start listening to incoming sms's. When you receive an sms, it will vibrate for 5 seconds...this was the intended behaviour..So let me know if you see anything happening on receiving an sms..
wb, I've found out why the app might not have been working. I use smssetmessagenotification api to notify my app whenever an sms arrives, now I found out online that there are 2 problems related to this:
1. This API is known not to work reliably, infact i found only a handful of ppl out of hundreds who cud get it working and that too sporadically.
2. Ppl suggest that even if interception of sms notification works (by this api or any other method), then ur normal sms functionality will be lost as this notification goes only to the first available receiver and is not "passed-through" to all the listeners.
I'll do some more digging on this but looks like wht u want might not be possible after all (atleast without a "slower" workaround, I think i can set a notification alert on the "unread sms" registry entry and diff it with previous value for any notification to see if there is a new msg and then run the vibra thing...will that work for u?)