Searching ... (..., ...) for a signal which IS there - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

4.00.10 T-Mo with their radio stack.
Keep finding it with dots crawling where signal strength should be - reports searching.
Soft-reset, and the signal is great.
Cannot receive calls, or make network connections when it is in this state.
Anybody seeing similar/same behavior ?

Sorry -this shouldn't be in this forum - reposted in the intended one.
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2161 if you're interested.

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Loss of signal.

Hi,
I have just upgraded to PPC 2003 and it looks and feels great. Thanks for posting the update.
But I have run in to problems. I am currently running 4.00.1 and have Radio version 4.21.00. I am an O2 UK customer. However since the upgrade I have lost 90% of my signal. Now where I used to have full signal i.e on my desk, I have one bar or worse NONE. Where as at home, I have none!! Is this a know issue? If so does any one know how to get round it? :?:
Pleases help…
Thanks, Gil.
This is a known issue. I have encountered the same problem. But if you notice the actual quality of a call or GPRS connection is better than before. I let me to conclude that the signal bar is not displaying the actual signal strength. I have had no problems for the last 2 weeks since installing.
Thanks Fadyco, it seems that the signal monitor is bugged as you said. Even when it says I have no signal I can still receive incoming calls
On a slightly different note, did you have any trouble configuring GPRS? I cannot get mine to work. It connects but then when I look at a site of try to connect to MSN Messenger it comes up with 'The page you are looking for cannot be found'. I know for a fact that www.google.co.uk exists
Thanks, Gil.
Well, i've had no problems with GPRS connection, but I am in a different country...Jordan...I did have the same problem, but when i press ok after the error is displayed, the page loads fine. Always onn connection works great too, checks my email every 5 min and messenger is flawless!
Not sure about you guys, but as GPRS costs the earth, i like to make sure it's only been used when i tell it to. Also battery life would be impacted.........i want to be able to turn it off without disabling the phone and then re-enabling it.
Gil said:
On a slightly different note, did you have any trouble configuring GPRS? I cannot get mine to work. It connects but then when I look at a site of try to connect to MSN Messenger it comes up with 'The page you are looking for cannot be found'. I know for a fact that www.google.co.uk exists
Thanks, Gil.
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Try running welcome.exe thats located in your \windows root folder.
I know it sounds strange but most of the time it works/will fix that 'The page you are looking for cannot be found' problem.
I am using a program called IPDashboard. While it works great for WLAN usage it has recently been updated for the PocketPC Phone. It is a Today plug-in that displays network information but more importantly it displays signal strength as a real percentage versus the suspicious bars that I can no longer trust. It does seem to indicate that the signal strength is significantly better than what is being displayed.
Can this be trusted over the standard Signal Strength meter? I am not sure at this point since I just installed it last night so more testing is required.
I am curious to see what others think of this program and whether or not the signal strength IPDashboard displays contradicts what their Signal Strength meter shows.
I do not have the website handy here at work but if you search for IPDashboard over at Handango.com you come up with the trial ware version which will last for a week.
Hi Qman , I tried running Welcome as you suggested. But I still get the warning... I think it may be to do with the GPRS settings.
ottoman3 you make a good point. I think that there needs to be some investigation regarding signal strength. I do not trust my provider 100% regarding A: Signal Strength or B: Data flow rates. Perhaps this is something that may be of interest to every one.
Gil.
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Gil, you reminded me of another feature that IPDashboard included with the 1.2 update. They now track data xmit/rec'v over GPRS. The original version only graphed ongoing data usage. Again I am only guessing this program's accuracy at this point. I only used it for the network information before ths last update, not for data usage reporting.
I also have GPRS Monitor so I will start comparing both programs and look for any discrepancies. GPRS Monitor was always over what T-Mobile indicated on the bill. Don't get me wrong, I do see this as a good thing to keep me from going over my 10 meg limit. But now with the unlimited data option I wouldn't mind a more accurate reading on data usage. Just for kicks and giggles.

ROM updated, now weaker signal - Please Help with Stack Q

Hello, first the details:
T-Mobile-branded unit, (PW10B1) running on Roger Wireless in Ontario, Canada. I got this unit over the weekend, and a few people reported calls that i had completely missed. after preliminary reading here i found a 'safe' looking ROM (RUUv2.07_CEv4.01.16) update to this:
ROM: 4.01.16 ENG
date: 02/04/04
Radio: 6.25.02
Protocol: 324e4
My issue:
The phone now displays a signal strength that was even weaker than before! please help with -
1. I've tried to look back at the posts with no luck on finding details about the radio stack options - are there any RSU updates that have proven to improve this issue?
2. I see people with a slightly different ROM titles (ROM 4.00.16 / Radio 6.25.2) are you having signal strength issues?
3. where would i find past versions of ROMs? like the 4.00.16 i mentioned above?
4. would it be better to try to update the radio stack separately?
thanks very much! sorry for the long post
Be very careful with radio stacks, if you mess up you could end up with a pda and no phone, are you sure that you have a bad signal, it might be an idea to experiment as I dont think the signal meter is terribly accurate in reality.
You should know that the signal strength display in WM2003 shows fewer bars for the same signal. It doesn't mean that your received signal is weaker. With WM2003 I've had great reception with one (tiny) bar, and usually acceptable reception with no bars.
thanks for the reply guys - i noticed i noticed the same things in its use yesterday - i carried on a complete conversation with no bars showing... crazy.
anyways, in that case i am pretty well happy with it. I think the test will be when i start using it heavily during my commute into and around Toronto.
again, thanks for the help

Orange Swiss GPRS

Update 20060509
If I go on Phone/Options/Network and press Find Network then it finds GPRS signal again and works for some time.
Does anybody know whether there is a way to create a shortcut to it?
Thanks!
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Sorry for posting a "local" subject but can't find answers elsewhere.
I upgraded to:
ROM 2.17.7.2 WWE
Radio version 02.07.10
Before being Orange i could test with another provider and everything worked fine.
After being Orange, i get GPRS signal and later i loose it, being always in the same place, just as time goes by. If i reset, hence reconnect, then GPRS signal and phone signals are great.
Battery is always at good level and it happens while charging too.
I thought was an Orange problem, but signal is very good immediately after reset.
Did anybody experience same problem and found a reason or a solution, apart from leaving Orange?
Thanks!
Orange disconnects automatically users from the GPRS network since about 18 months. This is because their systems are outdated and can not cope with the demand.

XDA Exec Problems; Signal & Today Screen

Hi,
I have an O2 XDA Exec with the latest ROM version, on an Orange Pay Monthly SIM.
Anyway, im having two annoying problems with it;
Firstly, every now and then, if you have a few programs open and close them all, it wont go back to the Today page!! It will just keep the image of the last application on the screen! Today wont even come up if you goto Start > Today. Everything else works fine though, can open any programs etc from the Start Menu :?:
Secondly, the phone signal is rubbish!!! My old SPV C600 had no problems with signal (also running WM5), this one has low signal/looses signal all the time! And after a while it will just stop searching for signal, so i have to go to settings and tell it to search again!!! I constatly have errors trying to send messages due to no signal, and cant make calls due to no signal!! Also i dont recieve texts alot aswell! Which is un-acceptable from a device that is meant to be a "mobile phone" :roll:
Any ideas to solve?! Please help me!!
Thanks
Matty
MattyPW said:
Hi,
I have an O2 XDA Exec with the latest ROM version, on an Orange Pay Monthly SIM.
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Secondly, the phone signal is rubbish!!! My old SPV C600 had no problems with signal (also running WM5), this one has low signal/looses signal all the time! And after a while it will just stop searching for signal, so i have to go to settings and tell it to search again!!! I constatly have errors trying to send messages due to no signal, and cant make calls due to no signal!! Also i dont recieve texts alot aswell! Which is un-acceptable from a device that is meant to be a "mobile phone" :roll:
Any ideas to solve?! Please help me!!
Thanks
Matty
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Hey Matt
what are your ROM versions? especially interesting in this case would be the Radio version. I think people round here have mentioned that different Radio versions have different signal reception levels.
I am using the O2 XDA 1.30 version with stock radio 1.00.09 and basically the reception's fine. There have been some comparisons on this forum as to different radio versions strengths and weaknesses.
Hi very similar to me, I switched off the 3G usage so it only uses 2G and everything was perfect again.
Now I only use 3G as and when I need it.
The problem as I see it, is that if there is a 3G signal, which in Orange's case appears to be nearly all the time the phone sticks with 3G even thought the signal strength isnt good enough fo voice, but is good enough for data (mainly because you tend not to be walking around) because of this the switching between 2G and 3G doesnt take place, hence no calls
Since swtiching of 3G my phone operations have been perfect.
I switched my Radio ROM from 1.03 (Orange Default) to 1.09 and noticed an improvement. Where I had no signal, it would flick between a signal with no bars and 1 bar with the 1.09 ROM.
I switched my Radio ROM from 1.03 (Orange Default) to 1.09 and noticed an improvement. Where I had no signal, it would flick between a signal with no bars and 1 bar with the 1.09 ROM.
As soon as i got the XDA i upgraded it to the latest O2 Rom, which has 1.09 Radio Rom... so i dont have anything to compare to!!
Any more suggestions?
turn off 3G if you dont need it.
send it back, you may have a loose connection.
are you saying a bad connection 100% of the time? ie you never have full bars?
Ok i'll try turning the 3G off (seeing as my SIM doesnt have 3G capability anyway! lol) How do i go about doing that?!
I do get full signal in places yes, its just the signal is utter crap on this phone compared to all of my past ones! Compared to an SPV C500 & C600 its rubbish!
start - settings - phone - band
change to your standard not auto. probably gsm rather than cdma.
do you get a bad reception with4 bars?
either way, I must say I have no problem with phone, but acknowledge many report poor phone performance.

Vario II network coverage question

Recently my Vario II intermittenly loses network signals, it says No Network and I have to toggle phone off/on to make it search for signal again. This only happens when I'm at home (Charlton SE7 area).
Rom 1.21.110.3 (19/06/06)
Radio 1.05.05.00
Does anyone have the same problem?
toucam said:
Recently my Vario II intermittenly loses network signals, it says No Network and I have to toggle phone off/on to make it search for signal again. This only happens when I'm at home (Charlton SE7 area).
Rom 1.21.110.3 (19/06/06)
Radio 1.05.05.00
Does anyone have the same problem?
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Flash HardSPL first, then upgrade your radio.
Ive linked to my guides incase your unfamiliar with the process.
The newer radio should possibly increase your GSM efficiency. Are you in a decent area for reception?
mrvanx said:
Flash HardSPL first, then upgrade your radio.
Ive linked to my guides incase your unfamiliar with the process.
The newer radio should possibly increase your GSM efficiency. Are you in a decent area for reception?
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Hi, many thanks for your detailed guides. I've upgraded Radio to 1.38.00.10 but the problem still persists. I'm in a very good coverage area, always get full bars 3G when it works. Soft-reset my phone and now it's searching in vain for network signal, I'm confused
What operator are you with ? Maybe the cell where you live is getting overloaded. We had a problem similiar to this last month when our local base station had a problem. Our work-around was to disable 3G but not using a Hermes . Apparently the handset tries to register using the 'best' data-bearer its configured for. So disabling 3G made it register with GPRS which worked fine. They then fixed the base station and we were able to re-enable 3G. I would
guess Charlton would have a lot of subscribers per cell. You would expect the coverage to be better in a built-up areas but who knows. Maybe an enquiry/ complaint to the operator would at least tell you if they know of a problem and if its temporary or longer term
Cheers for that. I'm with T-Mobile. What's bugging me is that this signal disappearance only happens sometimes. It's not that I don't have 3G (or signal for that matter) at all, I still get full 3G signals fine most of the time. But you probably were right, looks like it's a fault from the operator's cell in the area, I will give them a call next week to see if there's an explanation.
I've noticed this problem when I'm in the south London area (very general I know). People have got around the issue temporarily by forcing the phone to GPRS only
More problems! After upgrading to 1.38 and trying all sort of "good" radios like 1.17, 1.27, 1.34 I can't make/receive calls unless GSM is forced. There must be something wrong within my immediate area because with the same radios everything works flawless just 10 mins down the road. I just called TMob and there's no technical fault or anything from their side. I will just have to put up without 3G until the problem fixes itself
There are lots of people complaining about 3g on T mobile in UK. They seem to have serious issues with Hermes devices and the dropdown to GSM.
I had a problem six months ago with my hermes on orange at home in SW London. For a few weeks it was mucking about - I rang O who advised me that they were experiencing some local issues but would fix them within days. I switched to GSM for a few days. When I switched back its worked fine for last five months.
3G gone mad!
the same thing was happening to me. Full 3G reception in Leicester, tried to connect to get my e-mails and then the signal totally goes. The same thing happens when I make calls as well. Switched to GSM and everything worked. Now in York and everything is working on 3G.
Network is T-Mobile.
This sounds similar to the issues I am having.
Do you get the phone hanging as it attempts to start a call and then after a while a message stating that it was unable to connect?....sometimes resulting in a soft reset to bring the device back online? In my case toggling bluetooth will reset the connection.
I am with T-Mobile in Glasgow but get the same issues during the day in Edinburgh
No 3G
aidanbree said:
This sounds similar to the issues I am having.
Do you get the phone hanging as it attempts to start a call and then after a while a message stating that it was unable to connect?....sometimes resulting in a soft reset to bring the device back online? In my case toggling bluetooth will reset the connection.
I am with T-Mobile in Glasgow but get the same issues during the day in Edinburgh
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No mine doesn't say anything, it sounds "ding ding" after a few secs like when you press the hang up button. I can use the Internet but anything to do with calls is just impossible. I've switch to GSM now and everything's back to normal. A bit annoying can't use 3G at home.

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