Ok probably a basic question but here goes....
I purchased a T-Mobile PPCPE, however, I am on AT&T, could I:
Go to an AT&T store that has a demo SX56, take an SD card dump the ROM, then take and restore it to my T-Mob, thus making for all intents an purposes an SX56? Also what is the preferred upgrade/flash method? Does everyone back up both bootloader and CE or usually just CE? I would think you's want to leave the bootloader alone and just mess with the CE ROM correct (unless you wanted a feature from a previous bootloader).... any thoughts?
All your assumptions are correct: the ROM determines what device it is, and you want to do CE only when you can.
Thanks again! Now to find an AT&T store with a demo SX56 or someone who wouldn't mind me borrowing their SX56 for a couple of minutes.....hmmmm :twisted:
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ok, i'm as n00b as they come when it comes to this. Can someone tell me what firmware, ROM, OS upgrades I need/should get. It's the AT&T version of the phone and I want to make all the neccesary upgrades before I start using it. Thank you soooooo much, John
If it is brand new you have the most current stuff. Go to www.my-siemens.com and you can download the a.20.17 update if you dont have it on your device.
If you just got it you would be CRAZY to screw with it. Especially if you haven't read EVERY SINGLE POST here pertaining to the dangers of flashing.
If you still want to noob it and screw around, invest in a card reader, make a backup of your rom, and be prepared to have a shiny silver paperweight just in case. DO NOT use any .exe upgrade packages that are not from Siemens.
yeah... i kinda wanted the new OS 2003 though
i know i was looking before i got my phone and i saw a package that was released by AT&T wireless, specifically for this model of phone, and now i can't remember where the hell i saw it.
also, the phone is locked... i thought that the rogers US and rogers at&t canada networks were identical. any advice/suggestions on that?!?
Thanks for your reply by the way
Most phones come with the SimCard locked for a particular carrier. Since you are most likely not going to switch for awhile, this is no big deal. If you do ever decide to switch to a different carrier, you can break the sim lock using a utility located on this site. I WOULD NOT do this until you are sure you want to switch carriers though. Otherwise it is a waste and potentially damaging to your unit
actually, i cannot use the phone right now. I purchased it off ebay and it is locked for the US AT&T, however, i'm in Canada using the AT&T service up here. I need to unlock it.
Should i buy the cable, upgrade the ROM? help?!
chewan said:
Should i buy the cable, upgrade the ROM? help?!
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No need to panic...
Just download and run this
Then if you want to upgrade to WM2003, simply visit here and cook a self-extracting exe based on 4.00.11 (just my personal suggestion, tastes differ).
(Yup, we added 4.00.11 and 4.00.16 to the kitchen menu)
Any obvious benefits of .11 or .16 over .05 or .10?
holy ****... everyone here has been so damn helpful so far. thank you so much...
alright, so far so good... i just finished upgrading to the xda developers rom and it unlocked the phone for me
this would be the ultimate now...
i want a ROM with just the Mobile 2003 factory settings and nothing else installed. This ROM has a bunch of crap on it that I wouldn't know how to use if my life depended on it. I just want the new Mobile 2003. What is the best way to do this?
Do I just cook one up with only the 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 selected... Is there a better way... Thank you so much again, John
Just take the .16 ROM and deselect all the progs you don't want. Then you will have the latest ROM as it comes from Tmobile. Just a few cosmetic changes in the cooked rom.
is it recommended to use the t-mobile ROM despite the fact that i'm using a rogers at&t phone?
Make battery warning adjustable
Fix 'multiple resets make device slow' bug (WM2003 only)
Remove 'stk.lnk' from Startup folder (WM2003 only)
also which of these do you recommend installing?
The rom version doesnt make a difference. You will not get the "G" which lets you know you can make an internet connection with any of the roms above 4.00.05 though.
Install all of stuff you mentioned.
so last and FINAAAAAAAAAAL question...
4.00.05 ENG WM2003 (3906 kB available)
4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US (2119 kB available)
4.00.11 ENG WM2003 (3906 kB available)
4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US (2119 kB available)
if you were picking? and why? thank you so very much
That is personal opinion. If you want only the basic tmobile install you can go with any of them and just deselect the other programs. Keep in mind that having these programs doesn't hurt you for the don't take up any memory on your device until you run them. That is the beauty of having the in ROM not RAM. Just be careful what you play with. The idea is that the higher the number, the later the release, so the more stable it may be. Again this is just an idea.
chewan said:
so last and FINAAAAAAAAAAL question...
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I would personally pick 4.00.11 unless you're on US T-Mobile, or happen to need the PDF and/or Presentation Viewer.
I would suggest you to take the 4.00.11 if you are not on the T-mobile.
Btw, this 4.00.11 is tested to fit the AWS along with the A20.10 I think....
I have a SX-56 with AT&T. As many of you know, AT&T service has gotten pretty bad and they are no longer adding sites that use 1900. T-mobile still services 1900. My questions are the following:
1. Should I unlock the phone so that I can have T-mobile service. I have read posts where the AT&T rom does not work well with T-mobile service.
2. Have any of you done this in Southern California and experienced problems?
3. Also considering upgrading to PPC 2003 but I've read posts of damaged roms. Really can't afford to lose my phone till I get a new one. Should I upgrade before or after unlocking?
I am new to a PPC phone but have used a PPC for a while. I do not understand the terminology with cooking roms and such. If someone can break this down for me in very easy to understand information, it would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Your current RSU can still work with TMO if the device is unlocked. There are 2 ways to unlock:
1. Use the XDAunlock tool. This will keep your current ROM.
2. If the above doesn't work, you have to flash your device with the special edition ROM v1.2 which will unlock your device with the first boot.
Then it will be your decision to stay on PPC2002 or to upgrade to WM2003. ROM flashing is very safe process if you know what ur doing, but stay away as possible from RSU flashing.
Good luck
Hey guys,
The newbie with too much time here...(again) , I got a few questions due to a prob i'm havin. i Just bought a T-Mobile MDA from eBay for my wife and need to unlock it for cingular. i followed the procedure as I did with my 8125 however it won't give. i repeated the steps to ensure i did it just as advised and the result was the same. Upon looking over everything in frustration i realized that it had already been loaded with T-Mobile ROM ver. 2.26 . So my questions basically are as follows:
(1) does the fact that it's got a more updated rom mean i need a newer version of lokiwiz than 02?
(2) what the frig do i do to get this bugger to where i can go back the "simple" process of unlocking and loading the new titanium rom?
and finally...
(3) If i am doing something wrong can someone guide me in the right direction with a few "parently words of advice" for my new adventure?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Wolfdragon
NVM!!
I goofed i overlooked a earlier post that showed that the rom can me CID unlocked by unlicking the SIMlock with the new LOkiwiz3 then downgrading to an older Standard rom then running the old Lokiwiz2 then ur free to load whatever floats ur boat(as long as you remember there is still the possibility to "Brick" ur device, so take care). And enjoy being part of the biggest and best PocketPC blog on the planet...XDA-DEVELOPERS.COM(this message does not represent the views of the xda-developers or it's affiliates, though I'm pretty sure they feel the same )
Okay folks, this here guide is to alleviate some of the aggravation that us senior members and mods have every day with n00bs not wanting to search and read in order to find answers to stuff. So I am gonna make it really easy for ya'll. I am going to provide links and information to the top questions and concerns that noobs have here at XDA-Devs.
And before I start, yes, I know that this is a futile attempt at gettin some order around here, but it makes me feel better, so there!
Also, yes, I know that this is in the Wiki, but no one reads that either...so thats another reason why I am making this.
DISCLAIMER!!!-Neither I, nor XDA-Developers, nor any of the authors or programmers of any the programs contained herein shall be held accountable or responsible for damage done to you, you Wizard, your wife/husband, dog/cat/bird/gerbil etc because of the mis-use or dumbassary that YOU ALONE cause. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
Mods/other members, PLEASE correct me or add to this as you see fit!
Ahem, now onto the guide!
QUESTION 1-How do I tell what type of Wizard I have?
ANSWER=Whether your device is called an O2 XDA, T-Mobile MDA, Qtek 9100 etc, you have an HTC model name Wizard mobile telephone device. There are however 2 versions of said device. They are called G3 and G4 devices, and their differences are as follows:
G3=The G3 type Wizard was the original type available. It can be both SIM and CID unlocked, and most any ROM can be applied to it. You can both CID and SIM unlock a G3 model with the Wizard Service Tool, available from here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170 . READ AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS TO BOTH SIM AND CID UNLOCK YOUR WIZARD! More detail on ROM upgrades is below.
G4=The G4 type Wizard was introduced some time after the original G3 model came out. It can be SIM unlocked for free, but not CID. It features a different bootloader(a little program that loads Windows) type, that we currently cannot unlock. You can however get a G4 CID unlock by visiting http://www.imei-check.eu, and by paying them 25 or so USD. Most any ROM can be applied to a G4 Wizard by what is called "HardSPL'ing it". HardSPL is a specially made SPL by Olipro that fakes the HTC Rom Upgrade Tool(RUU) into thinking that the Wizard has no CID lock placed on it, when in reality it does. If you go the IMEI check route, you do not need to HardSPL your device. HardSPL can be downloaded from this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320 . READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! You can SIM unlock your G4 Wizard by using either the Wizard Service Tool(WST) or by using Lokiwiz 0.3, available from here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928 . MORE INFO ON ROM UPGRADING BELOW.
QUESTION 2-Okay, so what does SIM and CID mean anyways?
ANSWER=SIM stands for Subscriber Identity Module(most of the time, some people have different definitions), and its the little piece of plastic that you put into your Wizard under the battery that lets you make phone calls, use the internet etc. You get one when you sign up for GSM phone service from a company. If your current phone DOES NOT use SIM cards, then you are on a CDMA network(in the US they are Sprint, Alltel, Verizon and others) and the Wizard WILL NOT work with your cellular service. Whenever you buy a GSM phone, it is usually "locked" to a specific carrier, meaning that you cannot put a different carriers SIM card into the handset and makes calls with it. SIM unlocking means taking away this lock, and enabling you to use a SIM card from any GSM provider to make calls etc.
CID stand for Carrier Identification. Basically it is a little file contained within the bootloader of the phone that says what carrier the phones ROM, or OS is signed to. For example, a CID locked T-Mobile MDA can only be upgraded with an official T-Mobile ROM upgrade package. Trying to use an un-official one, or one from another carrier will result in an error message, and a failed upgrade. CID unlocking, or for G4 devices, HardSPL'ing simply re-writes this file to read that the device is not signed to ANY carrier, and that it may accept any and all ROM upgrades, regardless of who they come from. Carriers do this to protect liscensing agreements that they may have with software providers, since most carrier ROMs contain a bunch of bloatware and un-neccesary software out of the box, and if you use a different carriers ROM, than that carrier is not making the money they should. Also, different carrier ROMs have different settings for things like voicemail numbers, and internet connections.
QUESTION 3-Okay, thats all well and good, now, how do I tell what kind of device I have? Is mine a G3 or G4?
ANSWER=The best way is to use the Wizard Service Tool(WST) and have it check your bootloaders. There is an option to do this on the main WST window. Follow the instructions within the WST thread to find out how to do this. Alternitavely, you can check your device version by looking at your bootloader versions. You can see them by turning your phone off, then turning it back on. After the initial HTC or carrier brand screen, you will see a screen with red writing in the upper left hand corner. Check your IPL/SPL against these here:
If your IPL/SPL is this format:2.26.00x, where (x) can be any number, than you have a G3 Wizard.
If your IPL/SPL is this format:2.26.000x, where (x) can be any number, than you have a G4 Wizard.
After you find out which Wizard version you have, simply follow the CID or HardSPL guide, whichever one may apply to you and BAM, CID unlocked Wizard.
QUESTION 4-Okay, I have my Wizard CID unlocked, now, which ROM is the best?
ANSWER=There is no ROM that is "the" best, only the one that is the best for you. I have written a thread the gives some information about most of the newer ROMs that can be found on the Wiki here:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Compatible_ROMS . It needs to be updated, but most of the big ones are there. My suggestion is to flash to one and try it out. If it doesnt work for ya, then flash to a different one and try it out instead.
END OF DOCUMENT AS OF 11:00PM EST 12/16/2008, MORE TO FOLLOW IN THE COMING DAYS!
Hi all,
first of all appologies if I am posting this in the wrong place but I don't think it quite belobgs in ROM development .
My question is basicaly how do I find out what CID lock is on my HD2?
I bought the phone sim unlocked and all is fine. It works fine with my Virgin sim (UK). I would like to upgrade to the latest official ROM as I don't feel ready to experiment with cooked ROMs just yet.
However when I log on to the HTC web site and try to download a ROM it says "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
I have tried it from both the UK and Europe web sites but get the same result.
The current rom shows no branding of any sort, also there is non on the phone itself.
Is it CID locked to an operators SIM's? If so how do I find out which and will I be able to get a ROM from them if I don't use them?
Or will I have to go the HSPL route and go cooked roms?
Any Help or guidance greatly appreciated.
Regards
Clive
There are truely unlocked phones, and then there are those unlocked but the serial numbers are blocked on request of the service provider. Vodafone, O2 and (I'm guessing) Virgin do this so you can only upgrade when they OK the ROM release.
You can install HSPL which gets around all that and lets you explore the wonderful world of cooked ROMs...read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
ROM lock and SIM lock are not the same and not connected.
If the HTC website says invalid serial, then the ROM is locked. (Probably to Virgin, if that's where you got it from) and you must wait for them (virgin) to release the update. That is the ONLY way to install a new rom without using HSPL/SSPL
EDIT - Oh, and your line "Or will I have to go the HSPL route and go cooked roms?", , , , HSPL isn't just for cooked roms, it will let you install official HTC roms too, if you want, not just cooked ones.
I didn't get it from Virgin, my SIM is Virgin and that's what I put in it. I bought it privately. I'm guessing then it is CID Locked to Vodaphone or the like.
OK so it looks like HSPL is the route to go?
If I want to install an official HTC ROM how can I download it as I have to enter my serial number and it gets rejected? Are they available elsewhere?
Am I likely to loose anything (apart from guarantee ) by installing latest HTC rom and any advice on which one? I guess by that I mean EU or UK versions?
Thanks for the replies by the way much appreciated
Its pretty important that you know who it was locked to, because to uninstal HSPL, or to fix it if things go bad, the very best thing to have available is the stock rom. As for losing guarantee, if you bought it privately then you already lost that, right?
samsamuel said:
As for losing guarantee, if you bought it privately then you already lost that, right?
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Pretty much although I could send it back through the seller.
Is there way way I can get a copy of the current ROM/SPL out of my phone and save it as a backup?