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I have the Official T-mobile Windows Mobile 2003 ROM!!!!

I have in my power right now which is supposedly the final T-mobile Windows mobile 2003 release.
From the source that I got it from:
I got my hands on a T-Mobile 2003 release for PPCPE!
This is a pretty complete build, and it also updates your radio stack.
Usual disclaimers apply.
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I tried doing it but it tells me that my device is not compatible with the program. I'm guessing is because I'm running the 2003 version that is been circling around the web. Also, I have the AT&T Radio Stack update. I'll try to Restore the original ROM, and then upgrade tomorrow.
One weird thing though, the readme file looks like like the last upgrade that they did (old). It menctions that updates the Media Player to 8.5, whereas the WM2K3 has the WMP 9.0, hmmmm...weird.
Whoever wants to try it, and gives me his FTP server in the next 20 min gets it! is late and I'm going to sleep, if not I'll send it to you guys tomorrow

Update!!!, I couldn't wait and I did the upgrade!!!
once you downgrade things get easier.
Bootimage that says T-mobile "Test Only Not for Sale" :lol:
Rom Version 4.00.10 ENG
ROM date: 06/20/03
Radio Version: 6.24.00
Microsoft Pocket PC Version 4.20.1081 (Build 13100)
I will keep updated!! As I play with it
UPDATE:. One of the programs included is ClearVue PDF and ClearView Presentation. Also AOL AIM!
Also, in the Network settings, there is an "auto pick" and the regular GPRS and VPN GPRS
GPRS is ZIPPPPY!!!
The OS seems very stable and fast, of course, I don't have anything installed. I gotta get some sleep, so, I'll catch up tomorrow, (or later for that matter)

What is the difference from the version 4.00.05 that is available here on the forum? Is it better or more stable (less bugs)?
You think I can flash the just the ROM of T-Mobile version over my xda Asian version without flashing the radio stack?
Does it have the Media Player 9 or still 8.5? And if it's the official release, why does it say "Test only not for sale" on the boot up screen?
Thanks in advance.

Yorch, can you temporary put it in your website??
by the way, its down for quite awhile already right?? what happened??

Thanks to Yorch:
ftp://ftp.alain-net.net
Usr: xda
Pwd: xda
There are 2 ROMs there:
- official-tmo2003.rar (the exe with Radio update)
- 4.00.10 NK.nbf.zip (only the ROM (nk.nbf) without the Radio part)
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I haven't tested TMO2003 myself, so be carefull, especially on a non-Tmobile phone because ther is a RADIO update included inside. Maybe we can split the package, but I have to check that later.
(Thanks ejdmoo)

Remember people, this next release from Tmobile includes a radio update. This is the realm where "just reflash with a different ROM" doesn't work.

Remember people, this next release from Tmobile includes a radio update. This is the realm where "just reflash with a different ROM" doesn't work.
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Are you saying you can't just use the extracted NK.nbf file on its own to do a SD flash?

You can do that, but don't run the EXE if you do not want to update your radio stack.

Radio 6.24.00... so it's 900/1900, right?

Gave it a quick try but going back to 4.00.05.
Problems with phone part, no GPRS signal. and obvious T-Mobile branding.
Was interested in AIM but was not built into ROM or at least I couldn't see it :roll:

ZeroXtreme said:
What is the difference from the version 4.00.05 that is available here on the forum? Is it better or more stable (less bugs)?
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Supposedly yeah, is newer as you can see by the number (4.00.05--->4.00.10)
You think I can flash the just the ROM of T-Mobile version over my xda Asian version without flashing the radio stack?
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I don't see why not, I will try to extract the ROM image later, when I get home. We might be able to cook it too in the kitchen
Does it have the Media Player 9 or still 8.5? And if it's the official release, why does it say "Test only not for sale" on the boot up screen?
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Yeah, is Windows Mobile 2003, so It does have WMP9, the readme file I guess Is just the old one, this file is not the Final and Official Release, is the T-mobile release of it, I'm guessing is the Pre-release version and used for testing, and you should considered as such. (if you want to only run whatever is official then don't run it, But If you want to be in the bleeding edge then go ahead and do it). I'm assuming once they are ready for prime time, they will rewrite the Readme file, and take out the bootimage "Test only".
Yorch, can you temporary put it in your website??
by the way, its down for quite awhile already right?? what happened??
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Unfortunately, I'm using my current ISP (Earthlink), which only gives you 10MB of space and limited bandwidth, If someone would be willing to donate Webspace (around 10MB) I would certainly appreciate it (and the community too). I would love to host all the ROMS for people to have a central location and easy access to them, and have a kitchen where people can customize their own ROM, but unfortunately, I don't have the space
Was interested in AIM but was not built into ROM or at least I couldn't see it
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Yeah, is not ovbious, is in the \Windows directory, just create a shortcut to Programs, and that's it. (is pretty much the same as PAC-MAN was hidden in the 1st ROM release [OZONE].

I've alreay extracted the nk.nbf and put it on my FTP.
My FTP is limitted to 5 connections and 45 Kbyte/s. So it is a little slow because when there are 5 users connected you should get around 9KBps. But I guess you guys (and girls ) don't mind since my FTP has continually 5 connections since I put it on my FTP.

Another news from the source of this file:
I got this from a source deep in Tmobile land. I was told this is VERY close the the final release they'll make in August. It is WM2003 that has been customized for tmobile.
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How do you install a RAR file?
I have searched for this info on google and on xda and I cannot find.
Thank you in advance.

You can open it with Winrar or Powerarchiver and a lot of other compression programs.
Good luck

Upgrades
It is posted at http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar as well. If someone can get me a copy of the .nbf file or if I can get it from the listed ftp then I will post it as well.

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andygee said:
It is posted at http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar as well. If someone can get me a copy of the .nbf file or if I can get it from the listed ftp then I will post it as well.
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Ok nbf is there now as well.
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/nk.nbf

Question...?
I have a question, if I load up the test rom on my T-Mo, will I be able to load the final release without a hitch or should i back up my orignal rom before??

Its always a good idea to backup your ROM and I strongly suggest doing so!

one question, I got an XDA with me, I know I will **** up my radio by loading in the PPC 2003 final edition..is there anyway which i can run the update without upgrading the radio stack??
thanks

WM2003

I was looking at the website for "Traffic-I". This is a subscription system for traffic info (and a sort of GPS ?)
The free trial refers to XDA2 not XDA1. I assume that is because the XDA2 has W2003 0n as standard?
Is it possible to upgrade my O/S to 2003. I'm not sure what version i have as i bought mine used.
Thanks

icelolly said:
I was looking at the website for "Traffic-I". This is a subscription system for traffic info (and a sort of GPS ?)
The free trial refers to XDA2 not XDA1. I assume that is because the XDA2 has W2003 0n as standard?
Is it possible to upgrade my O/S to 2003. I'm not sure what version i have as i bought mine used.
Thanks
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Yes you can do it my recommendation persists just on upgrading the RUU not the RSU, there's a lots of threads posting how to upgrade to WM2003, search, read more and learn

Thanks for the tips. I assume then that upgrading the RUU only, will allow all Wm2003 programs to work on my device. This upgrade is reversible if the threads regarding original back ups are followed?

icelolly said:
Thanks for the tips. I assume then that upgrading the RUU only, will allow all Wm2003 programs to work on my device. This upgrade is reversible if the threads regarding original back ups are followed?
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Yes what you need is upgrading the RUU. It will allow all wm2003 to work on ur unit, thus you could back up as well your original default rom before installing the one that you'll cook

Ok thanks for that. I'l llook up how to back up old ROM first then get my oven gloves on and start cooking

Where Can I Download ROM WM2003
i try up grade to wm2003 T-Mobile 4.00.21 but i cant do cause i have Error message my machine use PW10A1, that version just for PW10B1..
So how can i get version for my machine??
Now i use :
ROM. 3.20.06
RS 4.01.

4.00.21 is very outdated ... try 4.01.16 and don't worry about the version as long as you do NOT touch the RSU part

Where ??
Where i can download ROM 4.01.16 have u or give me link

http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/

I've had to stop using my XDA for the moment. It's a great piece of kit but the incoming signal quality is quite poor (Compared to a normal mobile) I've missed several calls that have gone straight to my answerphone when i normally never miss any. There are some threads about signal quality but shouldnt this be built in from new as being totaly reliable. Any comments appreciated.

RSU flashing might help ... but it's VERY risky

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RSU flashing might help ... but it's VERY risky
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Yes point taken on that!. To be quite honest the RUU part of the XDA (The programs etc) work really well and i'm not too bothered about any mods there. I'ts just that i use it for work and i can't really afford to miss calls and not being an expert in these things i find it hard to accept that the incoming signal quality is dependant on what sort of RUU software you have. :roll:
I suppose that as i'm not using it at all, and upgrading is risky but recoverable? and if it was out of action temporarily whilst a software failure was being put right then this would not be a problem for me. What i would worry about is if it all went belly up would i be able to get help on restoring it back to it's former glory?
Doug

recovering failed RSU flashing is a very tough process, and might not work as well ... you have to be very careful.
As a matter of fact, I 've done many RSU flashing before and all went OK ... but I know about many horrible stories about dead devices that can't be repaired except by h/w replacement.
If you can't really use it, it's ok to go for RSU flashing but pick the right RSU upgrade ... and stay away from O2 RSU 4.21

OK Biso007 i think you have convinced me. I think i will reluctantly sell the XDA (Someone will get a bargain as it has TT3 and maps on it) and wait a little while and see what else comes up.
Cheers
Doug

Wizard/MDA Upgrade Procedure...

Some info about my phone
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
GSM 01.09.10
OS 1.8.10.2
I would like to upgrade to the latest i-mate rom ( i think ) i don't know any differences with any other roms etc... ive been looking on the other threads maybe if my question has been answered with someone else... i can get pointed to a proper thread, i just want to know what steps i should take to upgrade my rom, i dont wanna lose any data, not that i have much id like to backup my contacts basically thats the most important, also.. since i dont have money for a 128 card right now would it be possible to load someone elses backed up tmobile mda rom ? if they zipped it up and sent it so i can restore it when i get a msd card.. any help is greatly appreciated , thanks in advance.

Copy your contacts by ActiveSyncing them to a PC, or copy your pim.vol (in the root of your Device) to your SD card and upgrade it.
Good luck.

Ahhh
Ah okay now... which rom should I try out first ? and... don't i need to CID unlock it? i'm trying to find a good thread on the upgrade procedures and the best rom to try first.

Best rom...best rom..... the Rom you choose is a personal choice (and yes, you need to CID unlock first IF you want to upgrade to a Rom of another manufacturer, if you have lets say T-Mobile and you want to upgrade to another T-Mobile Rom, you don't have to CID unlock your Wizard).
I like the Qtek Roms myself, but then again, I only use Dutch Roms, not WWE (WorldWideEnglish) Roms, so I have to make a choice between T-Mobile or Qtek and then the choice is simple in my opinion
If you don't know anything about upgrading, my opinion is, try soms official Roms first, then you know what the deal is and then you can make a choice if you maybe want to use a customized Rom like the Mr. Clean Roms for example.
Regards,
Molski
p.s. There are A LOT of threads about upgrading.

Ah thanks for the info... i tried a beta 2.24 rom i think... its pretty nice, i personally cant tell much of a difference,, connmgr is different has more options etc... im thinking of trying mr clean 2.3 is the latest right ? and if i get this does it include all the office apps and such ?
a second question... i dont like the wifi apps included and i noticed an AXIM dell PPC with WM5 had a nice wifi config app/wifi AP finder, and noticed it was made by Hi Tech Computer (HTC) any way to copy this or use it on my phone ?
check my other thread about my CID unlock problem and let me know if i should try to CID unlock it again... and backup... thanks!!

A few questions. Please answer them :)

Hi,
Im looking at upgrading from the Magician to the Wizard on T-Mobile.
Please answer these Q's for me:
1) Is the Remote assistance any good over WIFI?
This function would be really good for me so please post your experiences with it.
2) Is it easy to unlock?
I done searching but cant find much.
3) What ROM should I install on it?
I put the IMATE Jam one on my Magician, but what is the best one to use on the Wizard?
Thanks alot.
Greatly appreciated/
MC_Bob

Even if you can only answer one Question please reply.
I would like a reply asap
Thanks alot.
MC_Bob

I'm not much help for you but I will say I never could get WinVNC to work on my phone. I haven't tried any other method.

WinVNC isnt the defualt that comes on the phone is it?
Thanks

Unlocking is easy as long as you don't have the latest ROM installed. Some people have apparently downgraded their ROM to an older version, unlokced the phone (SIM and CID) and then you're free to upgrade to any ROM you like. Check out the big threads on Lokiwiz for more info.
As for what ROM to choose, I've just installed Mr Clean ROM and am very happy with it (see current threads in the Wizard Upgrading topic). He's also done a T-Mobile variant, if you want the T-Mobile stuff added (inc skins) but I personally put in the really clean version and then added just the MMS/GPRS/etc T-Mobile setup stuff, as I never liked T-Mobile's colours much.
One hint - if you want more replies, use a topic subject that's a bit more specific than "I need help", or peole just won't read the thread. Let us know what you actually want to know!
Andre

andrewilley said:
Unlocking is easy as long as you don't have the latest ROM installed. Some people have apparently downgraded their ROM to an older version, unlokced the phone (SIM and CID) and then you're free to upgrade to any ROM you like. Check out the big threads on Lokiwiz for more info.
As for what ROM to choose, I've just installed Mr Clean ROM and am very happy with it (see current threads in the Wizard Upgrading topic). He's also done a T-Mobile variant, if you want the T-Mobile stuff added (inc skins) but I personally put in the really clean version and then added just the MMS/GPRS/etc T-Mobile setup stuff, as I never liked T-Mobile's colours much.
One hint - if you want more replies, use a topic subject that's a bit more specific than "I need help", or peole just won't read the thread. Let us know what you actually want to know!
Andre
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Ah ok, Cheers.
So if I unlock it, then change the ROM it will be good?
And does anyone have a specific one I should get?
Thanks alot people.
MC_Bob

Mr bob - if you are getting a brand new t-mobile vario chances are it will have the new G4 chip which can only be cid unlocked via http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ for a cost of approx £30 or so. You can tell if it has a G4 chip by looking at the ipl/spl numbers when it boots up. If it has a number ending in .001 then it has a G4 chip.
There is a free way to upgrade your rom that does not update your ipl/spl see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
You can sim unlock (but not cid unlock) a G4 chip enabled device with lokiwiz 0.3a
Why not wait a short while and get the varioII aka hermes\tytn? Better specs than the wizard.

meschle said:
Mr bob - if you are getting a brand new t-mobile vario chances are it will have the new G4 chip which can only be cid unlocked via http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ for a cost of approx £30 or so. You can tell if it has a G4 chip by looking at the ipl/spl numbers when it boots up. If it has a number ending in .001 then it has a G4 chip.
There is a free way to upgrade your rom that does not update your ipl/spl see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
You can sim unlock (but not cid unlock) a G4 chip enabled device with lokiwiz 0.3a
Why not wait a short while and get the varioII aka hermes\tytn? Better specs than the wizard.
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Coolio
Is there anything I can do to get rid of the Tmobile crap though?
A new theme wont do it will it?
Ill see what heppens when I get it.
MC_bob
Thanks

mc_bob said:
Is there anything I can do to get rid of the Tmobile crap though?
A new theme wont do it will it?
Ill see what heppens when I get it.
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I've avoided the custom ROM's because there seem to be too many issues reported, and I haven't found the standard U.S. T-Mo ROM to be a problem for me. Doing some tweaking, including overclocking, has made this device very useful.
Follow the instructions here to bypass loading the T-Mo extended ROM:
http://www.lvlolvlo.net/PDA/MDA/FreshnClean.htm
You can then add each CAB individually to your taste. This author suggested that you must load the items in red, but I only added four of these and my device works fine. In fact, for a while I didn't have any of these CAB's loaded, and the only thing I missed was SmartDialer.
I don't use any internet features except wifi (freebies, not T-Mo hotspots), so I left most of it out.

Cheers, phone come this morning and im in the process of doing this stuff

2.26 Rom Rocks!!!!!!!!!

Last Night I made a clean install of the 2.26 rom on my wizard and I have to say, overall peformance is way better than the previous roms ive used. On my previous roms, the highest speed I got up to when surfing the net was 79 kbps, with the 2.26 rom, ive got true edge speed going up to 155kbps. Service never drops, and its much much faster. Although I excluded all t-mobile customizations since they are really no use at all. I get 4 bars almost everywhere I go. Streaming radio audio never drops. So, for me this has been the best rom that Ive used. Finally T-mobile has done something appreciative.

I agree, having had two issues with the 1.08 ROM. First, Voice Speed Dial would lose its list about every five days and Speed Dial's list would become simultaneously corrupted, some items being recoverable, some not. I got so tired of re-creating the list I just quit using VSD. MS Voice Command is on order. Second, the handset speaker volume was too low even when at max volume.
I won't be using VSD again, but so far (two days) SD has not become corrupted. I'll be satisfied when a week passes without an incident. The handset speaker volume is improved, and I can now hear conversations in noisy atmospheres without as much straining.
I've also noticed that it is more stable, and faster. Overclocking at 240 makes the MDA run like my old Ipaq running at 400 mhz., and menus zip in and out, with programs loading faster. Soft resets are also faster.
In the past I've resisted loading new ROM's, but this time it seemed like the right time, especially with the hope those two issues would be fixed. I'd say I'm happy so far.

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I just don't understand. I was using the old, custom 2.08 or something ROM and was doing just fine (other than it disconnecting sometimes)... and after upgrading to the 2.26 ROM, I can barely get any signal anywhere at all. I used to have four bars at home, now I'm lucky to get two and usually get one. Sometimes, I get zero and have to wait before making calls. This NEVER happened before.
Is there something I'm supposed to reset after upgrading my ROM? This just doesn't make any sense.

I will never learn. Everything was fine, except of course MS Voice Command & Bluetooth, on the ROM version my Wizard shipped with earlier in the year.
Friday I installed the T-Mobile 2.26 update, then reinstalled Goodlink. Fine, then Smartskey & RegistryWizard. Looking good, then Goodlink errored out. On a soft-reset, the Wizard hung at a Windows splash screen. Hard-reset, reinstalled Goodlink and Smartskey. Seeming fine for a while, installed MS Voice Command (skipping past the message about Microsoft being an unknown developer). Still ok, then a day later errored out again. A soft reset hangs the Wizard again at the Windows splash screen.
I'll try it now with just Goodlink.

is there anybody know how to install the rom only without the extended rom, as i need to keep my extended rom as it is.

ROM 2.26 on Dutch T-mobile MDA Vario
Hi people,
I wanted to know is it possible to install the 2.26 ROM on my Vario.
If I'm not mistaken the 2.26 ROM is the US version of the MDA Vario.
I'm currently using the MDA Vario Dutch OS. But would like to have the English OS.
Do I need to CID unlock and/or SIM unlock my device before attempting to install this ROM?
Is there any risk in attempting to install it without CID/SIM unlocking it.
Thanks in advance.
Shah

you probably can. im not really sure, but if its still the same phone provider, i dont think you have to cid/sim unlock the phone.

the US version should be fine...its runnig on my UK Vario
if you are running a v1 ROM (no push function) its worth CID and SIM unlocking now..cos at the moment there is no tool to do it on a v2 rom.
As long as your phone is a T-mobile, you dont need to CID unlock before upgrade, but if you wanted to use a QTEK/Imate rom, then you would
good luck..the upgrade is worth it

Thanks people for the quick response.
I will consider upgrading to the new rom.
But one last question is the language issue a problem for a ROM upgrade? I just want to be postive before going through with this venture.
Because T-mobile Netherlands give a 2 year warranty on the Vario, but if I install the new ROM even if it is the T-mobile (other country) ROM
my warranty will void (really stupid T-mobile)
and if the update fails for any reason. I will need to do some extra work for nothing.
Shah.

Update on Uk T-mobile Vario.
I cant get it to work on my vario. Comes up with "wrong vendor" error.
Please post a link or info for UK version please.
Thanks .

Re: Update on Uk T-mobile Vario.
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I cant get it to work on my vario. Comes up with "wrong vendor" error.
Please post a link or info for UK version please.
Thanks .
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You cannot install on a UK t-mobile wizard a USA t-mobile rom, even if they're both from t-mobile.
You must either:
- CID unlock your device if you're still using a 1.x rom (use lokiwiz 0.2b for the unlocking)
OR
- follow my tutorial to install the rom if you've got a 2.x rom (the tutorial is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088 )
Bye

Thanks risidoro,
I will then try to unlock my 1.x ROM first and then update my ROM. I have interestingly followed other threads in this forum.
But I couldn't find any answer to the queston: When CID unlock in ROM 1.x is the device still unlocked when installing newer ROM 2.x?
In my case installing the US ROM 2.26 is it still unlocked??
EDIT: Reason is to find out if it might be possible to install or try other ROMs if I want to lateron.
Thanks in advance.
Shah

Shah2 said:
Thanks risidoro,
I will then try to unlock my 1.x ROM first and then update my ROM. I have interestingly followed other threads in this forum.
But I couldn't find any answer to the queston: When CID unlock in ROM 1.x is the device still unlocked when installing newer ROM 2.x?
In my case installing the US ROM 2.26 is it still unlocked??
EDIT: Reason is to find out if it might be possible to install or try other ROMs if I want to lateron.
Thanks in advance.
Shah
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CID unlock is like death: you can have only one
[yes, CID unlock is sticky. Do it only once and it'll last forever, even if you go to 2.x]

Thanks Risidoro,
I'm gonna try the unlocking one of these days.
Just hope the US rom also corrects the errors in the ETEN dialer of PaulyA.
I think other language ROM aren't that compatible with the ETEN dialer.
Just love the phone dialer, only those stupid buttons (End button) that never becomes a Talk button.
Once again risidoro a lot of thanks.
Shah

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On my previous roms, the highest speed I got up to when surfing the net was 79 kbps, with the 2.26 rom, ive got true edge speed going up to 155kbps.
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What are u using to test your edge speeds? i'm on 2.24 and would like to know what i'm surfing at. I tried a couple sites but they were giving me resulst of 6kbps and crap like that which is not true.

I use SPB GPRS Monitor to check the data rate. It works great, but it's not a freebie.

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lsnizzle said:
On my previous roms, the highest speed I got up to when surfing the net was 79 kbps, with the 2.26 rom, ive got true edge speed going up to 155kbps.
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What are u using to test your edge speeds? i'm on 2.24 and would like to know what i'm surfing at. I tried a couple sites but they were giving me resulst of 6kbps and crap like that which is not true.
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I use this,
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
And this,
http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html