What are the Merits of changing a bootloader? - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Hello Developers,
Can one of you let me know the merits of changing to a newer bootloader? I have 5.15 at the moment. Is it worthwhile to go in for version 5.17 or 5.22? Are there any improvements in these or is it just a hinderence when it comes to updating ROMs because of the SD Card Key value?
Thanks.

somehow 5.22 is never actually flashed by "Programme A", so I don't know if it even works. 5.17 gives you more trouble!!, don't use it, it has some kind of copy protection mechanism in it, which can be circumvented using the wallaby patch loader, but it makes it more difficult to use your sd card.

Thanks for your answer.

XDA developer Itsme said:
somehow 5.22 is never actually flashed by "Programme A", so I don't know if it even works. 5.17 gives you more trouble!!, don't use it, it has some kind of copy protection mechanism in it, which can be circumvented using the wallaby patch loader, but it makes it more difficult to use your sd card.
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If you have 5.17 can you downgrade to 5.15?

Please, could anybody share 5.15 bootloader image with me?
Or point me out to the right direction...
ae(at)ae.inc.ru
Thanks a lot in advance

My FTP server has it:
Server: ftp.zensay.com
Username: qtek
Password: qtek

Can you just update the bootloader or must you do both ROM and Bootloader? I assume you could do just the bootloader and that you can do it via SD card no?

the bootloader and os are complete independend of each other.
so, yes, you can do an update of only your bootloader.
if you want to downgrade from 5.17 you will need the wallaby-patch tool

Hello,
I have the 5.22 bootloader and reading this topoic, I see now why updating the Rom via ProgramA is not working. Is there a way to downgrade this version to 5.15? Trying the recently released XDAtools, it is not working
THX

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Stuck in WM2003 4.00.10, cannot use phone app.

(Was: Help me... Help me... Help me... Anyone help me !!!)
Hi all!
I stuck in WM2003PE v. 4.00.10. Since I have been updated to it, my XDA cannot use phone function. Cannot receive calls and while I make a call... appear a popup menu from signal: "The operation failed". I so sad, I don't know what to do now :x . Anyone help me ???
My XDA is:
Wallaby Bootloader: 5.17
ROM version: 4.00.10 (I feel a vindictive hatred for it :x :x :x )
Radio Stack: 4.21
I'm from ASIA
As you known I can not downgrade from this ROM version by exe file.
I can not downgrade from this ROM version by SD card because my Bootloader is 5.17
XDAtools is a new tool. Can I use it to downgrade my XDA? Tell me method by detail, please (sorry, I don't want to sad again).
Thank for all
You CAN downgrade to say, 3.17 (Thats my TMobile version) if you have the nk.nbf file and use the XDA Tools.
You have to do it via the Wallaby Boot loader method... by placing the ROM on an SD card (via XDA Tools). To do this, I think that you need an SD card reader, as XDA Tools does not seem to do it via the phone...
There are instructions on how to do this as well as
A BIG WARNING about 5.17 boot loader.
I did it on my TMobile phone, with Bootloader 5.15.
So, do NOT follow the instructions I have stated here, read on this site and in the forum about how to flash your rom via the SD CARD Method.
That should do it for you..
BTW, when you write the ROM to the SD CArd, it WILL erase the SDCard data, so save off your stuff before you do this.
J
Thank jta
But, How do I have to downgrade my Bootloader from 5.17 to 5.15?
I tried XDAtools but no success
Anyone idea?
Hi VHS,
My XDA had bootloader 5.17 like yours, and I was stuck with T-Mo 4.00.10 also. I was able to correct the situation though, by doing the following:
I changed the bootloader with XDAtools from Jeff (it has 5.15 included), by running the “Fix broken bootloader” part of the program.
Then, I used SDcard/bootloader method to go back to 4.00.05, and successful. I knew I could use XDAtools also for doing this, but I preferred the SDcard/bootloader’s way then. Mind you that, using SDcard/bootloader’s way was very easy after you downgrade from 5.17 to 5.15. Since then, I could flash whichever rom I want, but not 4.00.10.
If you want to do the same, please read as much for the detail from the various forum here and carefully.
I hope this helps.
Hi beeheij!
Can you tell me the way in order to downgrade my bootloader from 5.17 to 5.15 by detail? I tried a lot of time but no success. I don't know why. And you tell me go back v.4.00.05 by SD Card.
I'm grateful to you very much
Has it occured to you that
"Help me... Help me... Help me... Anyone help me !!!"
is a really, really, really bad subject line ? I changed it to something which may get many more people to take a look and possibly help you...
If you can still use ActiveSync, you could try to use Jeff's version of the XDAtools to downdgrade the bootloader to 5.15, and work your way out from there...

Help! Any ways to downgrade wallaby 6.22 to 5.15??

Hi guys... Recently i hosed my xda while upgrading the radio stack rom and i had no choice but to send it back to O2 to get it back but unfortunately they UPGRADED my bootloader to version 6.22 and i tried to downgrade it using the tools xda-developers created but it specify some errors and wouldn't let me downgrade and so i went ahead to upgrade my OS to windows mobile 2003 using the XDA Tools thinking that's the only way to upgrade it since i cant use the sd card method anymore BUT i was damn lucky and the upgrading process just hangs there.... now i'm stuck with wallaby 6.22 without an OS and no activesync to try to downgrade the bootloader anymore... Tried the wallaby patch thing too but it just wont patch.... seems like there's a protection thingie introduced by 6.22 to prevent us from meddling with the bootloader.... Can anyone plsssss help me?

Downgrading to Wallaby 5.15

Hi all, I need a help how can I downgrade thw Wallaby 5.17 which so pain in the ass back to wallaby 5.15?
I get the nb0 file which I got from xdatools. But after i tried to reflash using SD nethod nothing happen. So I else I have to do?
I just want to downgrade from rom 4.00.16 back to 4.00.11. I ve already use the Wallaby patch.nb2 but I only could get through until the menu restore from Sd which I think that is the only menu I should choose to get the new nb1 file from SD. But nothing happen eather. It only running back to it main manu each time I replace the SD card which contain the nb2 files with the nb1 file.
Thanks in advance

Dear Developer, help me with 6.22 Bootloader!

I got my Device just a week ago.
Yesterday when im upgrading Rom, it crashed, i H reset sometimes but no use. Now i wanna reload RS (cause now the resutlt when i hold Power+reset is "GSM Error") and CE Rom but the bootloader version is 6.22 so Bootloader Patch didnt work. I downloaded the source code of bootloader patch, it seems that the patch only run when BL version is 5.17!?!?? When i push SD diagnostic card, only a "diagnostic" string appear but the Patch didnt run. So i still cant reload rom. Can developers check the Patch and repair the source code to compatible with 6.22 BL. i will thank you so much, now i dont know what to do with my Device. (
Any Suggestion pls email to : w[email protected] or [email protected]
Thanks again
Rgds,
Woo
What were you upgrading to and what method did you use?
Also were you upgrading both ROM and Radio stack?
Now i cant remember what i did (many step), i just wonder if there is a way to downgrade the bootloader or skip Card Key Check of the 6.22 Bootloader. Any Suggestion ? PLS.
Rgds,
W.

Help!! My xda is DEAD!!!

Hi guys i really hope u guys can help me with my DEAD xda. The problem with it now is it does start or on at all after i tried to downgrade the bootloader from 6.22 to 5.15 using the sd card method. Here is a detailed description of what i did....
First i downloaded the Updated wallaby patch tool for bootloader 6.22 from 1 of the links i found on this forum then i wrote it to a sd card using xdarit.exe It worked fine and patched my bootloader 6.22 so i could access the extra functions... Then i removed the sd card and went on to write the 5.15 bootloader file to it using the xdarit also... i selected at least 5.17 for the header cos my currect bootloader was still 6.22 (Maybe this is the cause of the whole problem?) and i went on to write the file to the sd card... after that i insert it back to my xda and select restore sd and was prompted with an invalid rom image but i selected continue since i thought i didn't write any rom images to the sd card and so the invalid rom image error.. after that i was greeted with a bootloader image heading and i pressed action to start the overwriting of the bootloader... All went well and the checksum was ok... Lastly i was asked to cold reset the xda and my xda never went back on again.... The most i could do was to get the xda to a blank white screen doing a conbinations of holding power, resetting and hard resetting.... Can you guys help me? I know i'm in deep ****.....
Man!
Well I've never messed with the boot loader as far as down nor upgrade but I think you should have used XDATools instead of XDARit to do the job.
Anyhow take a look at the below thread you might finds some useful info. there:
XDATools thread:
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2189
Download:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe
HTH
Jaron said:
Hi guys i really hope u guys can help me with my DEAD xda. The problem with it now is it does start or on at all after i tried to downgrade the bootloader from 6.22 to 5.15 using the sd card method. Here is a detailed description of what i did....
The most i could do was to get the xda to a blank white screen doing a conbinations of holding power, resetting and hard resetting.... Can you guys help me? I know i'm in deep ****.....
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You phone is dead, only hardware solution could help you!.
U mean changing the whole damn xda? [/b]
Jaron said:
U mean changing the whole damn xda? [/b]
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yes!
if you don't have working OS or working bootloader, only hardware solution could help you!
Hey Jaron
Send your xda to cgigate.
He can repair it for you (of course u have to pay him).
He just fix my own one and I am waiting for the returned MDA.
BTW, I've done the same silly thing that you did.
Hope it's help.

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