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ROM Backup to MMC - Problem

I had an XDA Asia version. Bootloader version 5.17. My PC has WinXP SP1.
I want to backup my original ROM before I can load it with other intersting stuff from this excellent XDA developper site. My steps:
1. I used XDARit and write the wallaby-patch-tool.nb2 to a MMC card.
2. I put it in my XDA and do a bootloader reset. My XDA lead me to the patch menu as expected.
3. I insert another MMC Card (64MB) and dump the CE ROM to the card.
4. I inserted the MMC Card back to the card reader and click [READ FROM SD CARD] button of XDArit. XDArit told me that "in correct signature" and DID NOT write the ROM content from the MMC card to my harddisk file.
5. I looked at the XDArit window showing the card bytes and did not see "HTC$WALLABY", rather it show something "FAT". Seems that XDA DID NOT write anything to the card. But also seemed that XDA DID write something to the card as it become unformatted (can not be read by Windows Explorer, whilst before it ca read the card folders and files).
Can someone tell me somehint to back up my ROM. Because I do not dare to upgrade my XDA without backing up my original ROM.
I read thru this forum and seemed that the possible problems are:
- Incompatible driver of WinXP SP1 => XDArit can not read properly?
- Some new trick of the 5.17 bootloader with the rom patch tool can not "cheat"?
- USB 2.0 problem (but my PC used USB 1.1)
- XDArit problem (but I tried both old and new XDArit with no success)
It seems that the XDA did write something to the MMC card but XDArit can not see these.
Please someone help. :lol:
I really want to play my ROM with lot of new things on this site, but dare not until I can back up and restore my current original ROM.
Quan
PS. I used "Flash Mate" card reader (4 in 1).

Please any one advise your solutions... I really want to play with my ROM, but before I can back it up.
Quan

Dear Quan,
More detail, can you contact to me
I have been using XDA for 11 months now together Samsung i700,
Used the same OS-Windows XP 1sp, Office 2003 beta in IBM Netvista 2.4
Upgraded Diff. ROM - this moment "WM -cooked ROM 2003" :wink:
[email protected]
Regards,
Hanoi

Hi Van,
Glad to see you are from Vietnam also. I have XDA just for 15 days. I love it very much. I also had Nokia 9210, but now I throw it somewhere in my home and did not even bother to find where it is.
As noted, I could not backup my current ROM. Something wrong in the middle but I did not know why. I have just tried last night on Win2000... Unsuccessfully. The symptom is the same.
- My XDA backed-up its ROM to the card and message me that "back up successfully".
- But when I inserted the card to the card reader and use XDArit, it seems that the card was not written by the XDA as I always saw something "FAT" in the window of XDArit, not something "HTC$WALLABY..." as described in this forum for an XDA image file signature.
- That's why when I choosed "read from SD card", XDArit always tell me that "incorrect signature" and stop.
- For sure that XDA did write something to the card because after XDA writing, I could not read the card thru the OS Explorer anymore (unless I re-format it).
I have tried on WinXP SP1, on Win2000 Pro but... the same symptom.
Tomorrow I will buy a new card reader and try again. If not successful, I will buy a new SD card and try and try and try... again until I can back up my ROM
I need to back it up before I can try many other interesting stuffs from this forum. First time I saw such an open-minded forum with many high-techies who willing to help like this forum.
Share me some hints please. I can not wait longer. :evil:
Quan

Need to check:
Which version Active sync (best 3.7)
Which version XDARit (best old version)
Downgrade Boot loader version 5.17 to 5.15 better for bootloader SD method
SD Card better than MMC
Windows XP better than 98 versions
I think that
The easy way to upgrade your XDA-ROM: run .EXE file on your PC synch with your XDA
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/xda/romupgradedownload/0,,170,00.html
xda System Software Upgrade
To install the upgrade (ppc2002) on your xda:
1. Download and read the upgrade instructions (528KB)
2. Download the Radio Stack Upgrade v4.21 (1.54MB)
3. Download the Radio Unit Upgrade v3.17.03 (14.9MB)
The best Option:
From JEFF you can download
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Steps:
1. Full recharged battery
2. Back up your data
3. Soft reset your XDA
4. Sync to your PC
5. Plug your AC adaptor to Cradle
6. Run ROM.EXE in your PC
7. Total time about 5 minutes
8. Completed
9. Unplug your XDA from Cradle
10. Hardreset (2 times- interval 1 minute)
I can read more detail in your PC on the process upgraded
Do not be afraid, you can do it!
Good luck!

Hi Van,
To reply:
- I am using ActiveSync 3.7.
- Can you send me XDArit old version. By email to [email protected]
- Yes, I tried both SD and MMC. But no results.
- Never use Win98.
My questions:
- How can I get bootloader 5.15 image (.nb0 file, right?) to downgrade
- Or the EXE upgrade from O2 UK site include this 5.15 bootloader?
- I have also made 3.17 ROM from Jeff's kitchen. Do you know that this Jeff EXE include the 5.15 bootloader?
- Your advice is to upgrade using EXE from O2 UK? Or from Jeff's kitchen?
- Have you ever tried backup/upgrade using the bootlader way, any experience? Please share.
I am just afraid I did something wrong and can not revert my XDA back to the original status!!! A bit scared.
BTW your XDA original bootloader is 5.17 or 5.15? If 5.17 then please tell me how you downgrade it from 5.17 to 5.15?
Thanks very much for your helps
Quan

@ Quan
Fist time upgraded ROM I have the same feeling
For PPC 2002 no problem (6 times upgraded)
For WM 2003 Test ROM 4.00.01 some bugs- my XDA had loosed phone function 3 days :evil: but in the end everything is OK (advice from this forum)
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/xda/romupgradedownload/0,,170,00.html
Try it and you can say so easy! :lol:
Anyway you can call me before...

i really screwed my xda!!! help!!! Please

I have rom 4.00.16 from the kitchen, and i wanted to upgrade the radio.
I had ver. 5.15 and i downloaded the radio upgrade from xda.ie (the first one that apeared in a google "xda radio upgrade" search.
Since it didn't tell me the radio version i was going to upgrade i installed it to the xda, and as soon it finished installed the xda self-soft-reseted and asked me for mim password, i have entered it and it started to do the upgrade by itself and got stuck at 10% for several minutes and frozee there.
I have already soft-reseted, hard-reseted, but without sucess my xda wont boot the OS, only displays the "not for sale" screen with the following info:
G
R
4.00.16
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Help please!!!!
I dont have a sd card reader!!!!
Any other possible workarounds???
you can help me here or by my msn messenger: [email protected]
I'm stuck with out a mobile phone.

You have to have a card reader to fix it. There is no other way. You have to upgrade OS (using SD card method) and then try installing radio upgrade again.

I have already done that.
Now i can boot the xda (pressing the volume button) but as soon it starts making the upgrade it says it fails (at 1%)
The worst part is that the xda isn't charging (or it doesn't assume it's charging and that's why it doesn't continue with the upgrade).
I've already tried to copy the gsm soft from a working qtek 1010 using the bootloader gsm to sd method, but no sucess since nothing happens (i insert the serial cable on the xda but mtty.exe doesn't react or recognize the xda - any possibel mistake i'm making here???).
Help most wanted, since i can't afford at this time to pay for a motherboard replacement - this is my only solution according to the qtek technical support here in Portugal (and hey, thanks a lot for your time )
Anyone can please suggest any possible solution?!?!?!?
You can feel free to use my msn: [email protected] to contact me...
I will pass some licenced software to the person that can help me solving my problem!!!!
TIA

Maybe this thread can give you any help :?: :?: http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2489

Why it tries to run upgrade upon boot? When I flashed my OS there were no files under start up folder to run upgrade executable. I suggest boot your XDA and remove everything from Startup folder

My main problem is that i can't get the xda to charge (or at least assume it's charging the led is always off).
Isn't there a way to crack the rsu to avoid him to check battery status an carry on with the upgrade (cracker's welcomed )??
I think that would solve my problem
I can boot the OS by pressing the volume key (already changed to several OS's to see if one coulde handle with the charging problem.)
And i can sync with my desktop.
But i cant upgrade via programme A.
Programme B installs on the xda but when it reboot's it stop's at 1%
I now have a original o2 3.17.3 and my bootloader is 5.15
I've seen that in the bootloader we have the chance to backup the gsm rom to a SD card! But how to restore it??? If anyone can make such a backup and has a way to restore it can you please share it with me???
As i said i don't have the money to exchange my motherboard (that's the answer from QTEK'S support i've got (great guys thank's again for your time)
I've arranged a conmceptronics sd/mmc/ms/sm/etc.../etc... card reader.
So if one finds a way of backing up the gsm rom, copy it to the sd and zip it using the rom tools here available could you please send it to me???
Thanx in advance

Another thing:
with this rom installed if i go to backlight settings it wont turn off the backlight.

Hi,
I need urgent help
Qtek Support here in Portugal gave me a qtek unit for a few days to see if i find a way to recover mine without replacing the motherboard.
I have the following material:
-1 working qtek 1010
-1 damaged xda
-usb cradle
-serial cable
-sd card reader
-1 128mb twinmus sd card
-charger
-etc...
What can i do to solve my problem
Please help
TIA

Please help me installing a new ROM

Hi All,
I have a Tmobile PPC Phone Edition (Wallaby) it was upgraded to WM2003 and was working fine and suddenly stop responding after Activesync and I had to hard reset it to make it work again.
I tried to install the XDA developers edition without luck since the program couldnt detect the USB connection. I then backed up in my SD card the oroginal OS ROM (Wm2003) and reinstalled it but after I did so I lost my Phone capabilities (does not give phone settings or the signal bar appears on the screen) and what is worst I can not do Activesync since it appears connected but is not.
Can anyone please help me? Maybe guiding me on how can I put a good ROM on my SD card and install from there? Porbably the XDA Devleoper Edition?
Thanks to all and merry Xmas and a Great 2005.

May be you can try to search on this website rather than setting up a new topic. I have seen and gone through your situation before.

Himalya WM5

Hey guys,
Newbie here
I have a himalya(XDAII)
Rom Vers. 1.66.00 WWE
Radio 1.10.00
I want 2 know whether i should upgrade to WM5 or not
I mean is it really worth it or not
Can any one help and guide me step by step
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Well the upgrade to WM 5.0 is not so easy and clear (for newbie) as the upgrade for WM2003SE. I mean the additional installations of postinstallfixes,DOCtools,RAMdisk,MMS,etc(all things must be installed separately,while 2003se's ROM is completely prepared). Anyway try the web server made by our King of Himalaya (BL) http://buzzdev.net
it is described there a lot about,or try the discussion board for WM5 especially.
I want to notice you for few recommended steps:
1. what size of RAMdisk do you want to use? (My recommendation is 64/64).
2. flash ROM image patched with current RAMdisk size (Use HimaUpgradeUt_noID)
3. install DOCtools to raise up your Storage space
4. do a hard-reset(for DOCtools)
5. after start-up install PostInstallFixes(shipped in zip with ROM image)
6. install RAMdisk with your preffered size
7. Install MMS
8. beware of installation of old software(some software is not able to run under WM5)
If you will have any question,I can maybe help.

Thanx
wat i really want 2 know is whether upgrading 2 WM5 would be worth the trouble or not.....i mean is the OS really that gr8??
i'm a new user of O2 and dont want 2 fiddle 2 much with my fone coz i might wreck it!!
i'll only do an upgrade if WM5 provides me with some additional utilities otherwise i'm quite happy with WM2003...

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Well there are 3 major problems with WM5:
-I am still unable to establish ActiveSync connection via USB(you need at least ASv4.0)(I am using BT for connection)
-The camera software is really crap and portation from 2003se is not yet done
-Sometimes there's a problem with phone(call answer,establish,end etc.)
Anything else is really good and better than before. The system is running rock-solid without crashes. The biggest + is that this PPC system is also possible to install(and run)Smartphone applications. Don't be afraid of upgrading. Just beware of bootloader upgrade and you can't wreck it. When the flashing procedure will be unsuccessful,just start the upgrade again and it must working. But read all things carefully about upgrade,what is DOCtools,what is RAMdisk etc. that you can purely understand it.

I've tried it twice and went back to WM2003se twice.
I found it annoying that my camera and record buttons stopped working.
Other than that WM2005 was a nice OS to use.
Pity there isn't a final release for the XDA II.

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It can't be official for Himalaya,coz the hardware isn't designed for WM5. Especially the memory system(128RAM,32Flash). This new OS has a different memory organisation,that uses Flash for all things including installed software while RAM is used only for running system and apps. Therefore you will need this combination at least:128Flash,64RAM. Himalaya basically offer 128RAM for running(too much)and 32MB as a storage(too low).

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chazam said:
I've tried it twice and went back to WM2003se twice.
I found it annoying that my camera and record buttons stopped working.
Other than that WM2005 was a nice OS to use.
Pity there isn't a final release for the XDA II.
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I didn't notice any problem with buttons. It is also working the AEBPlus utility problemless. The flashback know I also. Once tried Magneto,flashed back to 2003se. And again and again and again...coz a lot of problems I've had with the system. Then I've studying buzzdev.net and step-by-step solved problems. Now I have it totally and it's running great.

Hi
I'm running WM2005 at the minute, but want to go back to WM2003SE, as I'm having problems syncing with hardware at work.
Only problem is, since I changed laptops, I can't get my XDA2 to connect with my PC at all! I've tried installing latest ActiveSync 4 from Microsoft site on my home PC (thinking there are fewer things to stop it syncing on the home PC), so that I can go back to WM2003SE.
However, 2 problems:
- 1) still can't make a connection with the PC - don't even have the Code 28 problem anymore (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/264693/en-us) as the system installs a Network Adaptor device driver called "Windows Mobile-based Device"
- 2) once I do connect, unsure of how to go back to WM2003SE - thinking I could simply run the Xda_II_172181_Final.exe ROM file that I downloaded from O2 UK.
If anyone can shed any light, would be greatly appreciated. I'm new to this, so go easy on me!
Would like to be able to continue running with my Vodafone SIM once this is sorted.
Thanks.

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As I wrote:
>1. I am still unable to connect via USB. I am using Bluetooth. Maybe I need SP2 for WinXP. Don't know. AS4 is using the connection with WM5 little bit differently as 2003se. This connection goes via network connection,not directly. Try this link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx
>2. For flashing another ROM image:Just use HimaUpgradeUt_noID.exe with current OS image file nk.nbf to flash. These files you can download at the FTP of this server. The nk.nbf filename is the same for all ROM images,therefore be sure of version. Copy these 2 files to same directory,put your Himalaya to bootloader mode and start the exefile.

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TomasNM said:
chazam said:
I've tried it twice and went back to WM2003se twice.
I found it annoying that my camera and record buttons stopped working.
Other than that WM2005 was a nice OS to use.
Pity there isn't a final release for the XDA II.
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I didn't notice any problem with buttons. It is also working the AEBPlus utility problemless. The flashback know I also. Once tried Magneto,flashed back to 2003se. And again and again and again...coz a lot of problems I've had with the system. Then I've studying buzzdev.net and step-by-step solved problems. Now I have it totally and it's running great.
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Hmm...
Perhaps i should have a good read of the buzzdev forums and try again.
Other than that I'm going to be due an Upgrade in fecuary so i might just stick with 2003se and get a WM5 sevice when my upgrade comes. 8)
I'm glad i got the XDA II. I was using a P900 but having a pocket PC phoner seems better for me.

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Well the WM5 system for XDA II will never have an official release. When I was buying my MDA II,I've had two choises(MDA II vs.P900). Some + was for MDA,some for SE. In total that was two equable devices. I bought my Himalaya due the price was a little bit lower. Now the SE-P900 costs in a second hand 200Euro and MDA II 400Euro. MDA II is much better than P900. The hardware and as well the software. Now I know,that it was my good choice to take MDA II instead of P900. Now when it is possible to use UNofficial Magneto is the Himalaya back on the top.

Big problem

Hi
I am new here and i have problem
When i turn on my qtek9000, i recieve message Serial V.100.
If i connect USB cable it displays USB instead of Serial.
This happened when i tried to do radio upgrade (through usb hub, sim and sd were also in phone...).
I have 1gb SD card and also card reader mounted in laptop, so transfering files should not be problem.
Can someone help me with step-by-step procedure how to make my qtek work back. I used a lot of search but i am even more confused....
I just remember that when qtek worked Radio was something like 1.0.3.1 and also WWE was writen somewhere....
Probably i should put rom to sd with ntrw (which wersion of both),.......
please help....

might be a dumb question on my part - but have you tried a reset (initially a soft one but then a hard one of course, if nothing else works...) ???
I mean you will at least be able to revert back to the condition 'out of the package'...
Hope everything works out!

jup.both things NOT HELPED

looks like you're stuck in the bootloader mode....
try flashing the rom & the radio rom once again by connecting it to your laptop's usb...
i guess something screwed up while you were upgraging your radio rom...and you'd need to redo it!
Best,
San

can you please write me a procedure?

You might want to check the following thread. Everything is well described.
Cheers
hrb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32725

i am trying to download files but i get permission denied all the time

You mean you get an error when clicking this link ?
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/Universal
I don't understand that, it works perfectly well for me
Cheers
hrb

I have solved problem with Radio upgrade. I am in much better mood now. 8)
Anyway i have 4 more questions.
1.) I am using bluetooth car-instalation Parrot CK3100. I am wondering if is possible to transfer any other sound except telephone conversations to that device. When i had Nokia 9500 i was able to hear every single click,tone,...i made on phone also on car-instalation. I also heard nokia ringtone in car instalation.With qtek i am getting generic car-instalation ringing tone instead of phone ringing. Otherwise primary intention (hands free talking) works fine. I would like to have that to be able to hear voices from various GPS software.
2.) Since QTEK9000 is PDA and phone in single unit I would like to have in car GPS application "always on top". Like previously mentioned i can easily manage my calls with car-instalation. Therefore i would like to run Phone section in background or GPS applications on top.I hope you will understand what i would like to say
3.) I also need in-car holder for qtek. Do you have any reccomendations?
4.)
My settings:
R: 1.04.02
G: 42.37.P8
D: 1.13.64.WWE
Is that ok or should i upgrade?

Stuck in bootloader mode
Hi guys,
Got stuck in bootloader mode following an upgrade attempt. Tried to reflash radio using the files from the pload folder only to get an error saying it's for the wrong device - tried this several times with the same result.
any ideas?
Is there a binary and a tool I can just do a straight upload?
thanks

Re: Stuck in bootloader mode
Bauser_uk said:
Hi guys,
Got stuck in bootloader mode following an upgrade attempt. Tried to reflash radio using the files from the pload folder only to get an error saying it's for the wrong device - tried this several times with the same result.
any ideas?
Is there a binary and a tool I can just do a straight upload?
thanks
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try it with this file -
1. put radio.nbf and the file attached below in the same folder and run the exe with ur device connected to usb in bootloader mode...
2. hope it flashes it
S

Thanks DreamTheater
Thanks for your help - unfortunately I got the same message, ie this rom is not meant for this device etc...
Will see O2 can do anything (who's that laughing...???) - was going to buy a new xda mini anyway...!

1. REMOVE your SD/MMC card.
2. Soft/hard reset.
3. Run the upgarde again.
Step 1 above solved my problem.