Radio not switching on FIX Read Here. - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

<<UPDATE>>
my radio problem is now sorted.
It was the sim as guest 1 suggested.(thanks dude)
it seems to have to be a specific sim though blue bubbles one with 32k written on one side of it.
all this hassle and their tech support could not fathom it out.
users here and messing with everyones sims i could get hold of has sorted the issues.
so if you suffer the radio not switching back on problem go to your supplier and tell them you DEMAND A NEW SIM of the above type
if o2 supplied you with a light blue plain coloured 16k sim please message this forum I would love to see how many people are affected by this issue.
thanks again for all the advice.

further to that what is the impact of using unlocked ie non o2 sims
i have telefonica movistar sim - not sure whether 32k or 16k or what
is the radio drop problem solely related to o2 users or does it affect other sims??
ie answer for all users is a 32+k capacity sim?
perhaps non o2 users could comment on this problem
i think i had this problem once and a hard reset seems to have fixed it for the time being : running 3.14.13 and 4.16 although may goto 3.15.15 4.16
interesting post talking of revised UK upgrade to improve what appears to have been a rushed UK o2 release in march

seems i have the no radio under startup problem again - softreset not fix it. i have read above thread and understand that a 32mb sim seems to fix the problem for o2 users but... i am a non o2 user running on movitar sim in spain and unsure whether i have a 16mb or 32mb sim.
based on this cna anyone advise what is best.
1. continued hard resets which seem to fix the problem for x days/weeks until it becomes a problem again
2. move from 3.14.13 radio 4.16 to 3.15 eng ( unsure if this has higher radio upgrade )
3. upgrade when freelt available to new uk ram/radio mentioned in other threads ie radio 4.20
to summarize this radio not loading general problem is SIM based or radio s/w based primarily???

Related

Post your Bugs/Issues for ROM upgrade 1.35

Thought I'd start a thread where people can post there issues/bugs on ROM upgrade 1.35 and it will also help people to make an informed decision before upgrading to this ROM.
I have now used this ROM on my SPV M3100 for over several weeks and the only issue I have is when using my 3 network USIM the voicemail speed dial 1 does not work even after going through the settings or registry the bizzare thing is I don't get this issue with other network SIM i.e. O2, Orange or T-Mobile.
P.S. before someone says I may have a faulty 3 USIM, I did not have this issue prior to this upgrade.
Is the 1.35 Rom different from?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294927&highlight=issues
The HTC ROM 1.35 is different from the cingular ROM 2.06, it's supposedly the most stable of the ROM upgrades or so they say!
I haven't any issue, Radio & ROM 1.35 ... i've read someone has problems with messaging service...
Using a Task Manager ONE TIME only i've seen the Messaging Service stopped, just a reboot.
now works well, bt, wifi & radio
and what happend, when you try to change the very first contact on sim? I had similar problem, but on old nokia phone, not windows nor symbian.
gfreek said:
Thought I'd start a thread where people can post there issues/bugs on ROM upgrade 1.35 and it will also help people to make an informed decision before upgrading to this ROM.
I have now used this ROM on my SPV M3100 for over several weeks and the only issue I have is when using my 3 network USIM the voicemail speed dial 1 does not work even after going through the settings or registry the bizzare thing is I don't get this issue with other network SIM i.e. O2, Orange or T-Mobile.
P.S. before someone says I may have a faulty 3 USIM, I did not have this issue prior to this upgrade.
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Would the HTC 1.35 ROm work on the Cingular 8525?
loud busy tone even if Phone is on loudness=0
i have some problems with this Radio 1.35.00.11. The thread is about that, isn´t it?
First of all my phone beeps loud out of the speaker at the back(the loud one for "free speaking") if the Person iam calling is not available (busy signal). Even if the Phone is turned to loudness 0! Iam not sure that the Radio Rom is responsible for that, because i reseted my vario2 completely. But iam sure that problem i never had before(with the german origninal Radio ROm).
*edit* iam currently reading that this is not a problem from the Radio Rom... The extRom may be responsible. Sorry!
But please help me the following Topic:short: is it possible to flash to an older RadioRom?
*/edit*
Because of that i wanted to flash the 1.27. Radio ROM to the Vario2. I took this one: ftp://xda:[email protected]_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe
The flashing procedure got complete without any error, but on the Vario iss still the 1.35.00.11! Isn´t it possible to flash to a older Rom Version?
Thanks for help!?

Rubbish Signal (Unable to make calls or send texts)

Hello, everyone.
I recently purchased a T-Mobile MDA branded Tytn. I am using an o2 PAYG SIM card and have unlocked the Tytn for this.
Now I am faced with the problem that the signal is *always* weak and I have not yet managed to dial out a successful telephone call. Text messages barely get through and if they do, it takes an awful long time too.
Could anyone suggest anything such as settings or further ROM updates. My current ones are as follows.
O2's official ROM update to Windows Mobile 6 Pro. Says on the "About" screen CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3).
Device Information:
ROM Version: 3.54.206.1
ROM date: 06/25/07 (this is odd as this is in American format, not British. British would be 25/06/07).
Radio Version: Updated to 1.54.30.10 as a possible solution to my problem. No joy.
Protocol version: 32.87.7020.20H
ExtROM Version: 3.54.206.101
If there's any more information you need, please let me know. Bear in mind I am completely new to all this. I'm not savvy on jargon, so if you feel like you're being patronising, you probably aren't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360917
Most likely the radio needs changing.
Try having a search in the forum cos I have seen this problem a few times....
Thanks for your reply. I did have a quick search around the forum, but as I am at work (just moved house, no internet) I have to move quickly.
I'll try the stuff that was mentioned on the linked thread.
Thanks again.
Take this into mind, especially the 7th post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356081
I use 1.41 and have never had problems, newest radio isn't always the best.
Oh my. I guess the lesson is to actually research what you're about to shove on your phone. Especially if you're like me.
Mine doesn't seem much different with either radio version. I will be trying a few others and actually searching for them first for info.
Where abouts are you? Middle of a field or a city?
It could be that the antenna is damaged inside.
You could try a few different sim cards, try a few radios/roms and if it still sucks then reset everything to factory settings and use the warranty if you have one.

Cruise with region lock?

I was in HKG few weeks ago and bought 3 mobile phones (HTC Cruise, Sony Erickson S500i and Samsung E528) in a local electronic store, so they should be unlock and unbranded.. All three works perfectly in HKG with local prepaid and contract SIM of different company.
Now lets concentrate on the HTC Cruise after all this is the Polaris forum.
I then went to Malaysia and Thailand, cruise worked with a local SIM without any problem. Now I am back in Germany and cruise works fine with my 10 years old Vodafone prepaid card, but doesn’t work with my one month old Vodafone prepaid card, it display a message saying something like “sim card is missing ….” (sure the sim is in). I called Vodafone but they have no idea and keep sending me a new replacement sim card, I now have 2 replacements but both doesn’t work (works with my old phone though, so SIM has no problem).
I then brought the phone to office and tested with my colleague sim cards, one was contract Vodafone and the other was contract T-COM, again, both doesn’t work.
Are there anything call region lock or something like that? Why it works in Asia but not in Germany? Why the 10 years old Vodafone SIM card is okay but all new SIM not? Actually except the Samsung, SE S500i has exactly the same problem.
I really don’t know what to do now, can someone in here please help me out?
Thanks!
HTC Cruise
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1623 (Build 18129.0.4.5)
ROM version: 1.27.831.1 WWE
ROM Date: 01/10/08
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04W
warrior2010 said:
I was in HKG few weeks ago and bought 3 mobile phones (HTC Cruise, Sony Erickson S500i and Samsung E528) in a local electronic store, so they should be unlock and unbranded.. All three works perfectly in HKG with local prepaid and contract SIM of different company.
Now lets concentrate on the HTC Cruise after all this is the Polaris forum.
I then went to Malaysia and Thailand, cruise worked with a local SIM without any problem. Now I am back in Germany and cruise works fine with my 10 years old Vodafone prepaid card, but doesn’t work with my one month old Vodafone prepaid card, it display a message saying something like “sim card is missing ….” (sure the sim is in). I called Vodafone but they have no idea and keep sending me a new replacement sim card, I now have 2 replacements but both doesn’t work (works with my old phone though, so SIM has no problem).
I then brought the phone to office and tested with my colleague sim cards, one was contract Vodafone and the other was contract T-COM, again, both doesn’t work.
Are there anything call region lock or something like that? Why it works in Asia but not in Germany? Why the 10 years old Vodafone SIM card is okay but all new SIM not? Actually except the Samsung, SE S500i has exactly the same problem.
I really don’t know what to do now, can someone in here please help me out?
Thanks!
HTC Cruise
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1623 (Build 18129.0.4.5)
ROM version: 1.27.831.1 WWE
ROM Date: 01/10/08
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04W
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Hello warrior2010,
Did you put an other OS like the one from bepe on your Device?
Did you tried already to upgrade the newest Radio Version?
Radio Version: 1.58.25.14
(just keep atention to upgrade your radio flash first oli's hard spl!)
Roman
Hello Roman,
Thanks for taking time to read through my problem and ur advise.
The ROM on my cruise are still the original, this is my very first pda phone and therefore am a bit nervous to perform the upgrade, but do u think flashing the rom or radio version would help? I bought this phone because of the gps but sadly, this phone comes with MapKings and it only have Asian’s map, no German map , so if it doesn’t work with the new sim card then it is really a piece of expansive junk for me.
Thanks once again for ur help.
warrior2010 said:
Hello Roman,
Thanks for taking time to read through my problem and ur advise.
The ROM on my cruise are still the original, this is my very first pda phone and therefore am a bit nervous to perform the upgrade, but do u think flashing the rom or radio version would help? I bought this phone because of the gps but sadly, this phone comes with MapKings and it only have Asian’s map, no German map , so if it doesn’t work with the new sim card then it is really a piece of expansive junk for me.
Thanks once again for ur help.
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This my 2c worth:
1) I see that all the SIM cards you have tried in Germany are "contract" or pre-paid. Were the "local" SIM's you used in Asia also contract or pre-paid, or open ? My thought is that it is the telco carriers that are applying a lock, not the PDA. Perhaps try an "open" SIM ... if this is too expensive in Germany, then I suppose you need to approach the telcos with some persistence. This problem of telcos deciding which device and software you may use is becoming a world-wide big nuisance. It's like buying a car and then having the oil companies tell you what vehicle brand and accessories you may have !
2) MapKing is an Asian program and of course only maps Asian areas. Perhaps you need to decide on a European sat-nav program
Thanks ianl8888,
What is “open SIM”? The “contract sim” that I used in Asia and tried in Germany are from my friends who have a contract with a mobile phone operator; the prepaid card that I used in Asia was those I bought at local 7-11 stores, they all works fine.
What is telco? Telephone company? I call my prepaid card company (Vodafone) several times, all operators that I spoken to said that they have never heard this before, they said if sim lock then I would have another error message, every time I called they ended up sending me a replacement which is still not working.
Yeah, I know that Mapking is an Asian company but didn’t realize that they don’t have European map. By the way, I have a tomtom on my PDA, do u think that version works on Cruise as well?
Thanks once again!
Hello again,
Here in Europe I tried a lot of Navigation SW,
In my point of view I prefere the IGo 2006/ 8 when it is comming out
(Very easy to use and quiet good new maps)
The second I have is the new Navigon 6
(it uses a lot of instant memory, but with the cruise your are save on this behavor)
I think you should go for an upgrade. The rom you have is not the newest one and has a few old drivers.
1st upgrade Oli's Hard SPL (Very important and you must check after thu upgrade at the Colored splash screen to have it on the right version)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351964
2nd then Upgrade OS to (for example bepe it is very stable)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369310
3rd upgrade Radio Rom to the latest version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1967089
Okay, I think I will give it a try this weekend, but once again, do u think that the os is the source of my problem? My phone is actually very slow and for a person like me, who only used normal mobile phone in the past, the speed of making a normal phone call on this device is difficult to get use to, and the device is somehow very unstable, I have to perform a soft reset almost every second day, after a while the device doesn’t response, e.g. few hours ago, after making a phone call, I pressed the on/off button briefly to put it to sleep, but then it never wake up again . I want to do hard reset but not before I got all data backup.
Thanks once again to all your help and good night!
Hello,
You are right ... original roms are not very stable ...
I run bepe's rom and its very stable ... I reset my device only for upgrades for the moment.... Bepe's rom is stable like a rock and with the taskmanager you can easy manage it.
For databackup take the pimbackup.... it's a very good tool and free!
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
Have a good evening
Roman
Your ROM seems to have a different version from those "Shipped ROMS" posted here so make sure to back it up first before doing any "Flashing".
thanks! I do realize that I have a different version ROM (lower version, I think) than most people in here have and I wonder is it because of Asian version?
Backup the original ROM? That would be great, but how?
I called the sales woman in HKG and she mentioned that some sim card might have different voltage and that might caused the problem that I have. Then I searched this forum and did find some posts mentioning this, but I still haven’t found a solution yet. Any idea?

Australian Atom in UK. T-mobile / virgin NO GO

Just spend a week working on my problem, one which i now know other people have had and not solved. So here is everything in one place for general info (and for someone smarter then me to solve).
Product: Atom - Only the ones purchased in Australia (Why are they different??)
Problem: The Atom will work fine on networks all over the world and in the UK, BUT NOT the t-mobile / virgin UK network.
Details: A virgin / t-mobile sim, when placed in the Australian atom will not stay connected and operating correctly when the phone is one, and once you put it to sleep it will loose its GSM network connection altogether (it seems to turn the GSM radio off instead of standby). Once you turn it on again, it will spend 30 seconds finding the network and be stable for 2-5 mins before the GSM radio starts loosing and gaining connection again.
The same SIM will work fine in all other phones i (and others in the forum) have tried. Also the phone works fine with SIMS from Orange / Voda / O2.
Others stories:
All of these seem to be the exact same problem-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283154 (faulkss post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282911
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=266270&highlight=virgin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263721&highlight=virgin
What i have tried:
Updating Roms doesnt fix problem, from latest build wm5, to wm6 and wm6.1 (from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329037).
Also tried re-flashing the original o2 rom from the webpage.
via the wm6 and wm6.1 ROMs i have tried setting the radio to only 800, 900,1800, and 1900 MHz but no change.
Geographic location does not effect anything.
Solution:
switch back to a non T-mobile network.
Other possible solutions / questions:
Why is the Australian Atom different?
Can i flash a radio ROM to correct this, or is it something "on chip"?
Is this problem on the operators side - are they stopping me?
FYI - my (current) config:
Hardware: C1
Radio: r060822N_MN1arc_rs00052
ROM: medkids atom 6.1 final
Processor ARMV4I PXA27x
Anyone able to help, before i go sign up to O2 again
Thanks,

Reception difficulties

UPDATE!!
It seems that a solution for the problems has been found for:
- Reception difficulties
- BAD gsm performance
- No reception on the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389601
Please go to this URL, read it, upgrade your broken polaris device and respond in the poll that it either worked for your or didn't
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Hi guys,
after upgrading my Polaris from the default supplied rom 1.58.21.23 to the latest 1.64.08.21, I have no reception in my house and even difficult reception on the street.
I reversed back to version 1.58.21.23, but even then, still have issues with reception.
Does anybody have the same problem, or had the same problem and find a fix?
Rroet
Hello,
I do have the same problem, and got it on the same way as you did?
could someone please help us?
Do you have the same difficulty as I do:
I've followed the procedures as described in manuals everywhere:
- remove the memory card
- be happily synced
- start app
- device goes into the tricolor screen
- replug the usb as described on the polaris screen
- Flashing startssss.... goes... goes...
- HANGS at 99%
- Have to do recovery procedure as shown on screen.
- Flashing procedure starts second time
- hits 100%
- Now i've got a bad reception? On my previous polaris (replaced due to a phonespeaker defect) had 2 bars even after upgrading. My new Polaris doesn't have any bars after I upgraded (It did have 2 bars before upgrading)
Any expert here with information?
I'm having the same issue, by upgrading RADIO 1.58.21.23 to the latest 1.64.08.21 I got weak signal on GSM. Two bars on signal icon on the top near the BTS.
I'm using BEPE 0.67 ROM with WM 6.1, downgrading the RADIO doesn't help. I have searched thru this forum and didn't find any relevant solution
I was having the same problem with you. I have tried everything including flashing every rom/radio available and performing hard resets at every stage. Unfortunately, in the end I had to get my cruise replaced.
These are my original Cruise details, just to see if there is anything in common:
HK Traditional Chinese HTC Cruise
1.27.832.1. CHT
01/10/08
1.58.21.23
25.65.30.04H
Very interesting issue
I read this several times in different threads now.
Fortunately myself doesn't suffer this issue and i have
also upgraded to 1.64.08.21. Lucky one.
Maybe one should start a poll about this
Would be nice to know the results.
Olioaglio
I have this issue too after Hard-SPL and ASerg Rom, I have problems in o2 German network... very weak signalstrength 1/4 or mostly 0/4 (no network, denied).... i tried original radio 1.58.21.23 and 1.64.08.21 any1 know what could have happened? can a rom upgrade damage the radio hardware in any way? would be hard to believe... with german's BASE i have at least from 2/4 to 4/4 signal strength and sometimes I even get 3G... in my old o2 orbit (artemis) everything is at max strength
I have the same problem after flashing the 1.64.08.21 radio. Is there no solution?
I guess I am lucky, but with 1.64.08.21 and Bepe's 0.67 ROM I don't have any problems. There is no change at all. Signalstrength is the same, 3G is working fine.
1.64.08.21 and Bepe's 0.67 ROM
Me too
I have the o2 orbit 2 (POLA200)
Rroet said:
after upgrading my Polaris from the default supplied rom 1.58.21.23 to the latest 1.64.08.21, I have no reception in my house and even difficult reception on the street.
I reversed back to version 1.58.21.23, but even then, still have issues with reception.
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Strange, I'm using also 1.64.08.21 and it's working like a charm... I do have another network provider (KPN, not t-mobile). Have 4 bars reception... Never had real problems with the reception too...
POLA100 (Touch cruise). Only my flash of radio succeeded in 1 time (not had to reboot before hitting the 100%). Also The Netherlands, so it doesn't seem to be country bounded.
Does it find your network? (Menu => settings => Phone (on personal tab)) then choose tab Network.
Current network: T-mobile
Network selection: Automatic
You can try Find Netwok over there, or Set network. Please also check the tab "Band", should be on Auto (both options).
My problem is when I manually check networks, I can find KPN NL and Orange NL everywhere, but not T-Mobile or Vodafone.. whilest on my wife's Vox I have 3 bars of network, on my N73 (nokia) I have 3-4 bars as well.
VERY ODD!
is it possible radio of pola100 and pola200 are different, even they share the same version number?
mavvy4ever said:
is it possible radio of pola100 and pola200 are different
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Could be, but then again, Rroet and I are having the same devices (pola100), are living in the same country, having the same radio version (the 1.64.08.21), the only difference is that he has another provider (which I can find if I search for networks)
Rroet said:
My problem is when I manually check networks, I can find KPN NL and Orange NL everywhere, but not T-Mobile or Vodafone.. whilest on my wife's Vox I have 3 bars of network, on my N73 (nokia) I have 3-4 bars as well.
VERY ODD!
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In June I will switch network (to Vodafone)... I hope it all keeps working... Really strange that you can't find your network anymore. If I scan for networks I see them all (also Vodafone and T-Mobile).
(Think you've allready done this) but what will happen if you give your device a hard reset, or flash Windows Mobile again to your mobile... This because I'm having the same device, can find your network and having the same radio version.
hi there!
I unfortunately got the same issue.
I got a XDA Orbit 2 from O2 Germany. Did the hardspl unlock(used the tool from olipro) after that i flashed the bepe 0.67 premium bepe rom.
Right now my orbit is disconnected most of the time, or has real bad signal strength. It would be very great if this can be fixed.
Greets
EDIT:
flashed the 1.64.08.21 got the same prob.
Got another orbit2 with everything in original delivery state. is there a possibility to "clone" the device back to original state?
I got very bad reception when update radio 1.64.08.21 . it frequenly lost connection when I got phone call , tried to downgrade and no result
I have vodafone simcard and now I must force to swich to 3g connection to make a phone call . when Iam on gsm I conldnot make any phone call at all , I am now just wait and see someone smart to show me how to correct this trouble
the phone work on my 3 sim but it is not as good as it was before
To make it complete: I have the O2 Orbit 2 (german) (POLA200) and I
have ugraded to the 1.64.08.21 without glitches (worked at first time,
did it through bootloader mode) and it is working with the same (good)
reception as it did before (phuuuh). Maybe it has something to do with
the flash problems at first time, which some users had. Could someone
sort it out? It's really goring, that even (successful) backflash to the stock
radio does not seem to fix the issue like the Poll indicates
Olioaglio
Edit: using Bepe 0.64 GER Opera with the Orbit2 ATM.
Edit2: Thought it might be a good idea to crosslink this thread to the
Polaris Radio ROMs thread to get things together.
What about the IMEI number btw?
I don't know if this is what happens by default, but my IMEI number is 2 digits longer in the software, then it is in the hardware:
example of my hardware IMEI: 123
in software it reads 12301
Does this matter in any way?
Interesting stuff... as Olioaglio said maybe there´s a relation to how it was flashed. If it was clean install or the process had to be repeated. Can anyone with this problem report back on this issue. I tried the new radio here in Spain but I went back to the stock radio as it seemed to have a better reception and battery life. I must admit I´m rather cautious about trying different radios as I fried my Hermes due to the radio and now it can´t connect at all.
I've had no problems/glitches during the flash process but I have the same reception problems as everyone else. Even using a friend's SIM with a different carrier made no difference in reception.

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