! How to ask (netiquette basics) ! - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

1) SEARCH and think
Look in the forum, don't be lazy and READ, most of us like to help people, but why do we have to repeat everything a thousand times. You waste our time.
Essential places to look at:
Forum on this site
PDAPhoneHome FAQ http://pdaphonehome.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=21
Google
2) Define the problem
"My XDA doesn't work. Help me" is wrong ;-)
always include all available details - error messages, behaviour of the device
If you are upgrading ROM include device version (eg. T-Mobile MDA PW10A2, ROM 3.14.03, Radio stack T3.10) - this can be found in Settings>Device Information.
3) Be polite
"Gimme a ROM v 3.15.15"
this can't be seen in the fora but I keep on receiving such e-mails. Why don't you people say "Please, can you give me a link to the 3.15.15. ROM? Thx blabla."
Half the e-mails sound like if I HAD to give you something. I am not employed by HTC nor do I provide technical support as anybody's employee. Sorry to those who ask politely
4) Get a proper name for your thread
Don't name your threads like "Help" "XDA" "ROM update" or "Lame question." We want to know what the thread is about BEFORE we read it. That's what subjects are for...
and more and more and more...
2Admins: Can I have this thread sticky? Thx

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pls ans my question urgently

pls wen i went to the ftp site to download the rsu it didnt open,i always get cannot find server reply,y?how do i get the ftp client? it also asked me for a password b4 i can log in,how do i get that done and finally,i saw xda ver 1.2 and decided to use that one cos it asked for active sync directly.pls can it run on a rom 4.01.16 rom?and hope it wont destrroy my device.pls i need anwsers to this lumpistf,pls.
yeh what now? any chance you could ask again a bit more legibly?
In answer to one of your problems (that i could see) user/password for FTP is xda/xda
The FTP site for the wallaby can be found HERE. If you can't getto that, make sure that Port 21 isn't blocked on your router/firewall.
Without meaning to be rude, Malaikah, it seems you're new to this site, the inner workings of your Wallaby and Internet etiquette or 'netiquette'. I strongly suggest that you browse around the forums and read up on past posts, using the search feature if you need to (it seems you might need to as you're asking questions that have been addressed before here). Many people see this forum as a way to help others to help themselves rather than spoon-feeding people instructions (that's what instruction manuals and Google are for!). People who participate in this great online community do so in their own free time and do so without payment so they don't have to help anyone. If you were sitting in a bar and a complete stranger came in and said 'You have to help me fix this now, for free', dumps the device on your table then leaves without saying anything else, I don't think you'd be too pleased, I know I wouldn't!
Check out the top thread here regarding some basic guidelines users of this forum should follow. Last but not least, have a look through the Wiki - there is a wealth of information about the Wallaby there, ROM versions and so on. I'd suggest that you don't even THINK about touching the radio stack on your Wallaby if you're at all unsure about what you're doing.
Sorry to rant on but I'm sure with a little digging, Googling and effort on your part, you'll work out solutions to your Wallaby issues. Self-help is the buzz-word of the day!
Regards,
Neil.

Sms pocket cm styled

hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
afarinella97 said:
hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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Yes, use search and don't post new threads.
What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
Well, just to give the benefit of the doubt, try VITO's SMS-Chat (not free). PocketCM is probably the slickest Threaded SMS that's FREE, so I'm sticking to it for my needs. However, many of VITO's iWindowsMobile programs seem to um... "draw inspiration" from tene's PocketCM suite, and thus, the iPhone. Check them out.
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I have to give them the benefit of the doubt the first time I see it from them. As a beginner I was initially intimidated by the elitist behavior of some board members here.
Azimuth21 said:
What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
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Dude, no doubt. Look and your and I's join date versus the number of posts or threads we have started. Its amazing. Don't get me wrong I know I did it as a newb too but dang. It is getting out of hand. before long all of the worlds best devs will leave this site for lack of control!!!
FYI, giving them answers in these new repeat threads only goes to encourage the behaivor.
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
even if this is a developer forum, which surely is True to sharing and creating ideas (or softwares) - no doubt, the notion Helping one another should never be disregarded..
ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Partially true. The evil you are describing is a turn earn system. The reason why this site is getting so difficult search is because tollerance has allowed newbs to continue to post new threads with out any restraint and it spreads the answers to common or frequently asked questions everywhere. IMO what needs to happen is a requirement needs to be established for new threads to be started. That would solve it.
ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
ytsejam_ said:
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
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Hence why I explained SMS-Chat. There's no point if this thread turned into a discussion thread over the merits of searching, but I do know that there has been an absolute backlog of uninformed posts that could easily be searched. Often times, I even see posts stating "too many pages to read, so i'll ask this again..." or "i'm too lazy to read this whole thread, can anyone just give me a quick answer..." or "i'm new here. i want my phone to look like the iphone. i found some links, but i don't know what a cab is. this is getting annoying "
It's frustrating. Another example is the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 Skin Collections thread. It states in the first post that the thread should just be for skins, yet I see way too many posts saying "Thanks" and not much else. I'm against flaming myself, but I'd just like to point out that afarinella97, the OP, has actually been a member of this forum for longer than I have.
Btw:
VITO SMS-Chat
Palm Threaded SMS
Birdsoft Extreme Text
Windows Mobile 6.1 Built-in Threading
Like I said, I stick with PocketCM. There have been requests for the developer to make the SMS standalone, but nothing's occurred yet. Have fun texting!
tguerena said:
Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
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As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
why not open a new section called 'Questions' for anyone with questions to post there? ... most likely they'll never get answered but at least they wont be posted over here !!!
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
afarinella97 said:
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
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hi you have to try vijay phone tools , Search that (on google ), I don't have just now in my hand ( I can find the cabor link but afeternoon)but I can say you it allows you to have sms models , vey easy use , I have unistalled it but it is very good work from vijay555 (moderator ere) and install pocket cm keyboard 0.13 for the SIP
I'm not Ok with those who flame noobs systematically , the search function is not easy here. For me I have a look on this forum to see if new subjects , and also I'm using google search and subscrbe to thread here
there are too many things for a new one here , it is really very great , so help them as you wanted to be helped in your beginning
Cheers to all
curious george said:
As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
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As a matter of fact poophead, I do search and I search often and frequently. And yes I said poophead not because I'm a 3rd grader, but alas because you're a poophead. All I was trying to say is be nice, us "noobs" search more than you think.
As a recent newbie, I do feel obligated to say a few things here:
Things to do for newbies:
1) Read
2) Read
3) Read
I discovered the site (from a link on fatwallet) after I bought my tmobile wing last October. Ever since then I was doing a lot of reading (more than what I do with my major - my advisor absolutely hates that, and so does my wife too), and learned a lot about the roms, terminology, great apps, etc.
I do not discourage asking questions, but I do think as newbie the question should be asked INTELLIGENTLY, which comes from a person who has done the reading and given a lot of thought about it. Frankly, I think OP's question is one of those.
As for the rest of us (elite, non-newbie, etc), a question should be judged by the quality, but not by the question mark. OP's question, for example, he/she understand what he/she is after, but don't quite understand the details which is OK. Given a few hints then he/she can start searching for the real thing. Azimuth21 has given some examples of bad questions and those should definitely not tolerated.
In general the question should be asked at the appropriate place; either the thread that directly concerning the topic (like PointUI, pocketcm, S2U2, etc) or at the general section of this forum. After all, the general section is there for this purpose.
Wtf is wrong with people here?
The thread has become an off-topic ranting thread already.
Best approach for such questions would be to either not reply or answer it without ranting about not using search and go.
Eg.
Newbie:
"hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?"
Reply:
"Tene (the developer of PCM) did not provide a separate module of PCM for just SMS, in other words, it's not possible to get just the SMS feature of PCM. You can try looking for Vito SMS (commercial app) or upgrading to WM6.1 for the threaded SMS style. Good luck."
See how simple and peaceful that is? And you have provided all necessary information. Can't we all just get along?
Like a famous dev here once said: "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers."
because people dont know HOW to search properly. when you click search at the top here you can use the forum search and type in sms and click ONLY search the thread titles. this GREATLY reduces the numbers of hits for the word sms which would be hundreds of threads. i just typed threaded sms into google and got a slew of good programs right on the first results page- iwindowsmobile, palm's, txtman, etc etc.
People honestly dont try because i bet everything i own there are at LEAST 10 similar threads of this exact same topic out there with the answers too. How many times can the same basic questions be asked and answered? This just dilutes the real content of this developing forum which is for new programs and hacks and such.
all threads like this end up doing is making even MORE search results confusing the next batch of noobs with even more results when trying to search.
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/02/18/txtman-20.html
the0ne said:
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
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Well, WM6.1 has exactly the same feature as a standard...
And doubling what Azimuth21 said, I'd rather stick with PocketCM.
And.. my penny for the discussion: exactly, as DaVince said - if you don't want to answer, do not.
I agree that all the searching difficulties arose from not keeping the forum clean, but now it is done, you can't reverse it.... searching for something so generic is almost impossible here.
Newbie
As a newbie myself I can say that at first it is not common sense navigating the forum. I found that just reading through the pages (new posts, hermesm6 etc.) and being patient some other ignorant sap had the same questions and concerns I had. Us newbies just need to be patient and enjoy the process or READING and not just come here to suck out what they need and not enjoy the forum. There are so many things of interest here and to just spend all this time looking up an sms app. Anyway, hope the newbie can flash, I had the same issue. for me it was a memory consumption issue with pocketcm. I like the 6.1 threaded sms due to its intergration. I would also suggest searching for threaded sms as this is what you are really looking for. I don't think you are looking for anything sms. Also when searching try to select show posts only this seems to work well for me. Enjoy the ride, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaad!
Oh look, I'm a member now, WHOOPIE!!

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Hey guys,
I've been trying really hard to get a games folder or button in my programs launcher, but the menu doesn't exist under Spb Customise Menu.
I can only Add "My Menu" and then under that a games directory, but i've read many other posts where people say they have it already in their Customise menu list and just need to tick the box to get it.
I'm currently using Greatbal's Diamond theme for SPB MS 2.1 on an HTC Touch Dual.
Any suggestions?
I'd really like to have one folder with all my games as some have installed in weird places (when I haven't been able to tell it where to install).
Any help or advise is appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398571
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402021
as cruel as it sounds- you shouldn't post an entire new thread for something like this..instead try searching like the person who did it for you in the above post
i acknowledge that, and if it's appropriate i have no dramas with this thread being deleted.
i did happen to look at both of those links before posting. all 1 million posts. haha. and didn't see the answer i was looking for.
i probably just missed it i guess. but i really didn't post without having a look first.
what he means is that if you encountered a problem regarding a specific program, it is more promptly suitable if you post it in the same thread/s regarding the application instead of opening a new one.
i know a new thread will gather more attention but surely it will not guarantee instant or faster answers than replying onto an exsisting thread.
also, there is the Q&A thread so if you have specific (and isolated) questions, you should post it there and hope that someone answers.. that is why it is called QUESTION and ANSWER.. not ANSWERS are here thread.
sincere apologies guys.
i'll delete this one and put it in the Q&A thread
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Alphabetizing Icons

I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
rjack88 said:
I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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You seem to be new to the forums. Thank you for joining XDA-Developers.
Please take a minute to go over the Rules and Regulations of the forum.
Also, it seems that you are a Blue Angel owner, in which case I will encourage you to go over the BA forum regulations here
For questions, please use the search function in the site or simply Google for an answer. More than likely, your question has probably been answered before and the answer is floating around somewhere in the site. That being said, unless you are contributing to the site with either skins, roms, ports, new applications, programs, games, etc., please [highlight]do not[/highlight] open new threads. However, if you do have questions, you can post them either in the BA Q&A section or in the General Q&A section.
Thanks.
I did search the forum, and I googled it... I'm new to this forum, but not computers or the internet, I know how to search, been doing it since 1988.
I posted this question in the Q&A thread, but it was ignored, so I posted in the general forum.
Sorry If I offended you, but I never received a response to my question, I figured somebody else here was experiencing the same problem, maybe not.
rjack88 said:
I did search the forum, and I googled it... I'm new to this forum, but not computers or the internet, I know how to search, been doing it since 1988.
I posted this question in the Q&A thread, but it was ignored, so I posted in the general forum.
Sorry If I offended you, but I never received a response to my question, I figured somebody else here was experiencing the same problem, maybe not.
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It isn't a matter of me being offended, I am (as well as others) trying to keep some order in the forums. I do know that sometimes questions in the Q&A don't get answered right away, but if someone from the Q&A team (or other members out there) know the answer, they will reply. Maybe the reason why your question wasn't answered is because no one really knows the answer (or has bothered looking into it). You getting annoyed at the way the forums are handled does not give you the right to say "screw it, I'm opening a thread(s) anyways". On top of that, remember that not a single member in this site is forced to give you an answer. We all do it out of trying to help each other out since we are a community.
All of us have to abide by the site's rules.
Last but not least, this is a General Question (like you stated earlier) and not a device specific question. All I am saying in my previous post is "please follow the rules". If you searched earlier and posted the right questions in the right places, then either be patient or pm someone. Most of us are happy to help.
Anyways, now to your question. The way in which WM is designed, the application icons normally get a "first come, first serve" position. In other words, they are placed in chronological order of installation (at least in "Program Files"). I do not know if there is a way to organize the WM menus so that they will show apps in alphabetical order.
What you can do is look for a launcher or a replacement for the Program Folders (look in the Dev and Hacking sections for these). These normally organize the icons alphabetically and they are shown in a list format rather than a grid. I do agree with you though, it is pretty disorganized.... but then again M$ doesn't really care about the alphabet
Hope this helps...
rjack88 said:
I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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I recently had this issue with the new AT&T Fuze ROM. Check around in your PROVXML files for anything similar to the code below. Note: This example code is from an AT&T ROM, but you may find something similar. If you do, delete it, and everything will return to standard Alphabetical order.
Code:
<!--334.08_Program menu order-->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMenu">
<parm name="order" datatype="multiplestring" value="MEdia Net Home.lnkAT&T MallAT&T MusicGames & AppsMessagingAT&T GPSAlbum.lnkActiveSync.lnkToolsCellular Video.lnkWindows Media.lnkPush to Talk.lnkOpera Browser.lnkInternet Sharing.lnk" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
egzthunder1 said:
Anyways, now to your question. The way in which WM is designed, the application icons normally get a "first come, first serve" position. In other words, they are placed in chronological order of installation (at least in "Program Files"). I do not know if there is a way to organize the WM menus so that they will show apps in alphabetical order.
What you can do is look for a launcher or a replacement for the Program Folders (look in the Dev and Hacking sections for these). These normally organize the icons alphabetically and they are shown in a list format rather than a grid. I do agree with you though, it is pretty disorganized.... but then again M$ doesn't really care about the alphabet
Hope this helps...
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I figured that was the case, so I deleted all the icons in the folder, then copied them back from my PC, in alphabetical order, and they still ended up scrambled, M$ blows.
egzthunder1, you are f*cking idiot :/ i hate people like you :/ look. how loong it takes you to write that kind of sh*t? If you don't know the answer, don't write anything. If you want to make some new posts, there is off-topic thread. Everyone, at the beggining, is a begginer! It's not his guilt, so help him if u can, but don't do that sh*t :/ what a stupid country :/ & what a f*cking pommy :/ i'm proud i'm from PL
In WM6.5, you have option "move to the top" in start menu, if u tap and hold on icon, so u can sort all your icons, one by one.
Also you can use other launchers, which are more configure able.
btw sorry for bad english
MOD EDIT: The profanity is not needed. First warning... next step is a 3 day vacation.
I fugured it out...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Games
That's the folder I put all the games in, and inside that registry key was a bunch of .lnk entries corresponding to the games I had installed, each key had a rank, so I took the largest number of the key, and put that on the first icon, then in alphabetical order I changed the rank of each of the .lnk keys, decreasing by one as I went down the list, soft boot, now the folder is exactly how I wanted it.
Thanks
weteran said:
egzthunder1, you are f*cking idiot :/ i hate people like you :/ look. how loong it takes you to write that kind of sh*t? If you don't know the answer, don't write anything. If you want to make some new posts, there is off-topic thread. Everyone, at the beggining, is a begginer! It's not his guilt, so help him if u can, but don't do that sh*t :/ what a stupid country :/ & what a f*cking pommy :/ i'm proud i'm from PL
In WM6.5, you have option "move to the top" in start menu, if u tap and hold on icon, so u can sort all your icons, one by one.
Also you can use other launchers, which are more configure able.
btw sorry for bad english
MOD EDIT: The profanity is not needed. First warning... next step is a 3 day vacation.
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Let's watch the personal attacks. Regardless of how you feel about egzthunder1 reply, there is no place for your post either. It serves no purpose other then to incite a fight.
While egzthunder1 could have said what he did in a couple different ways, he is not wrong in pointing members (new OR old) to the rules of XDA-Developers. He did not berate the OP in any way; he simply informed him of the policies in place here that require a member (again, new OR old) to search prior to posting in an existing thread, or creating a new one.
Q&A sections are popping up in just about every forum because of an experiment done in the Raphael section that was a complete success. In case you may have missed it, the forum rules have recently been updated. I quote:
Flar said:
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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So let's keep it clean going forward. If you have an issue with a member, take it to PM, or contact any of the moderators.
Thank you,
NATF
NotATreoFan, i don't think that it's wrong, what he wrote, but it's matter of moderators and admins to worry about such things. thats all from me ;]
weteran said:
NotATreoFan, i don't think that it's wrong, what he wrote, but it's matter of moderators and admins to worry about such things. thats all from me ;]
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@weteran,
While I don't necessarily appreciate the insults, particularly considering that I have not offended you (or even talked to you), I will say that if I have spoken badly in any manner, then point me at it and I will gladly apologize to the OP for my mistake. However, if I didn't, then why do you insult me?
I am not going to start a discussion with you (or a flame war). While it is true that I don't always know all the answers, at least I try to help or point people in the right direction to solve their problems. I do this because I love this community and its members and I have been helped countless times, so really it is my way of giving back.
@NATF,
Since the OP seems to have solved his issue, do you think that you could close this thread to keep it from growing needlessly? Thanks for your words
Issue resolved, closing thread.

[REF] Guides|WIKI|Where to post|Sharing|Useful Links (Input needed!)

You came looking here for the best possible ROM for your device. Well you came to the right address.
Find it HERE​
​Requested posting behaviour (read rules):
Leo (also known as HD2)​
General (ROM) questions, news or chit chat. Basically anything that isn't a ROM, an Application\Theme or an accessory thread.
Leo accessories
Newest, best, or the coolest accessories to equip your HTC Leo with​
Leo ROM development
ROM development! Keep the specific questions to the dedicated threads. Post everything else in general unless you very strongly believe it's needed here.​
Leo themes and applications
This domain is dedicated to the software developers and themers who make nicer what is already nice.​
​Public HTC Leo File Sharing Folder
In due time we will see radio stickies, oem package repositories and shipped ROM threads popping up. Now wouldn't it be nice if there was one place we could all upload it to. I have created a 4share account to do this exact thing. When the dedicated thread pop-up or for the well connected amongst us who wish to share:​
HTC Leo File sharing folder​ ​You can download and add your ROMs or packages to the kitchen. If you need new subfolders just ask and they shall be added. Warez are not allowed and shall be deleted. This is a little experiment and I hope this will make sharing easier and more satisfying (nobody is forced to use this folder). ​
​Use the Leo Wiki
The Leo Wiki Thread will point you to some of the more common pages in the wiki site, ALWAYS take a look there before posting anything since ALL members are encouraged to use and update the wiki as necessary. The information SHOULD be up to date. If information you think is important is not in the wiki, add it ​RTFW, or Read the Wiki​Chances are your question is already answered on the wiki: Make sure you browse through the FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) before you start a new topic. If it's an obvious or common question, chances are someone has already put the answer there.​ETFW, or Edit the Wiki​Information stored in the wiki is dynamic: The wiki makes it easy for anyone to contribute or edit pages, and link them together, it is the best way to keep all information current and accurate. If you ask something in the forum which you didn't find on the wiki previously, please take 5 minutes of your time to EDIT the wiki and add the information there when you get an answer. This is the only way to avoid tons of new threads asking the very same questions over and over and over again.​
Don't be afraid of editing the wiki if you don't understand the wiki syntax: Formatting may seem a bit complicated at the beginning, but you don't have to care too much if you just want to add content, add it as if you were writing a text document and sure someone more experienced with wiki syntax will edit it after and correct the bad formatting mistakes.​
​Useful links
- General info, clearly explained!​- CustomRUU for Leo ​- Shipped Leo ROMs ​- User Manuals ​
[REF]HTC Official Hotfix Roll-up Thread
You can find links to threads discussing about official HTC Hotfixes for the HD2 here. Hopefully this will avoid several threads on the same topic and will save you some time in finding information.
Update for HTC HD2 - Digital Picture Enhancement
Update for HTC HD2 - SMS Function Update
Update for HTC HD2 - SD Card Storage Capacity
Update for HTC HD2 - Calendar View
Update for HTC HD2 - Update for CSL services HK
Update for HTC HD2 - SIM Contacts - a Radio update to 2.06.51.07 in reality.
Update for HTC HD2 - Music Stability
Update!
@all: I intended for this thread to be a general overview for users to easily move around the ROM forum (possibly reduce the amount of questions and time to find the thread you were looking for). I have not been around for a while and find the HD2 forum somewhat cluttered.
I'm looking for some input to help make this forum a little easier on the eyes. I need your help in this, but I also need you to be critical about it. I need a list of threads that should not be forgotten and should be easy to find for novice users. The kind of threads I'm looking for are the ones that contain information that won't be outdated any time soon.
Also I would like to have some feedback about the way it's setup now and should be setup. I will be closing this thread again once it's updated.
Sincerely,
12aon
Guys? Is everybody to much habituated to this thread...
Great idea in theory, and yes I agree the forum is messy. I guess the links to note are the obvious ones, but then they are already stickies in any case - these being the mskip Flashing Tutorial, *'s video tutorial, Task29 and HSPL/SSPL. Stock ROM and Radio links are also good. There is some key information needed also like "do not use a x.xx.51.xx radio for the TMOUS 1024 device or you will brick your phone". Wiki's are also great initially, but they seem to die down and don't get maintained well in my experience. Most noob's also seem to miss them.
It seems however that many users here prefer to simply start a new thread rather than search, read and then post IN THE MOST RELEVANT THREAD. No they choose to start a new one even though 5 separate threads asking the same question already exist. This mess exacerbates the whole situation as due to the clutter it's easier to post a new thread.
I must admit though, coming from the HD forum, the Leo users seem to be a lot lazier.
Hi Guys, Could anyone by kind enough to tell me what chef cooks Leo roms including E-reader tab from latest TMOUS together with TV tab ? If such thing does not exist, at least one chef that cooks with e-reader tab... NRG sstopped doing so... sadly...
Cheers. Thanks in advance..
Just uploaded
Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update
LEO_S00276-02.exe (14.7mb)
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
world705 said:
Just uploaded
Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update
LEO_S00276-02.exe (14.7mb)
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
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Hi World705
thanks for this new sms update.
Have you tried this update and does it work on ur htc hd2 rom?
Also in this update, have you any idea what actually is updated? or whats included in this actual update in real terms?
Many Thanks.
Update for HTC HD2 Annually Recurring Calendar Appointments
This update for HTC HD2 allows you to set recurring calendar appointments year on year.
Note: This update is only applicable to HTC HD2 (Not applicable to T-Mobile HTC HD2)
Avalaible here : Update for HTC HD2 Annually Recurring Calendar Appointments
I do not exacty know what kind of help you are looking for.
But the wiki really needs updating.
For clarity of the forums, I would suggest a sticky on top with references to "Important threads", but also editing this info into the wiki.
Perhaps I could be of assistence?
PM me with more details if you need my help.

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