okay under the instructions of our valused member Cmonex we have now opened this discussion as a food for thought
the begining of the conversation was here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2480768#post2480768 and now from there we continue
cmonex said:
there is no such thing as "standard WM drivers". drivers are hardware specific.
for god's sake why would you think it is based on the advantage? the processor and everything else is different. the closest is a kaiser but the LCD and some other things are of course n ot the same.
Please open a new thread to discuss this.
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well i assumed that the board would be advantage because they both have spinning hard drive and maybe because i own an advantage will am willing to donate in the name of sience for such a cause other wise if someone who opened shift can tell us what he thinks of this as we can simpley replace that board with this one, the only 2 things that i assume would be hard is
2. the hardware button that switched between OS's
3. the sdcard slot, in which i assume with some soldering to unify the 2 boards it would work fine (hardware side but software i dunno
Rabia said:
okay under the instructions of our valused member Cmonex we have now opened this discussion as a food for thought
the begining of the conversation was here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2480768#post2480768 and now from there we continue
well i assumed that the board would be advantage because they both have spinning hard drive and maybe because i own an advantage will am willing to donate in the name of sience for such a cause other wise if someone who opened shift can tell us what he thinks of this as we can simpley replace that board with this one, the only 2 things that i assume would be hard is
2. the hardware button that switched between OS's
3. the sdcard slot, in which i assume with some soldering to unify the 2 boards it would work fine (hardware side but software i dunno
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Can you explain to me why you would want to place the advantage board in the shift? Whats the use of that?
I dont get the point.
And no, I dont think it is plausible (possible)
not advantage, we are just saying what if, so we can use full mobile strength and not software solutions
Rabia said:
not advantage, we are just saying what if, so we can use full mobile strength and not software solutions
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Its kinda funny how big companies always screw up their stuff...
PS3 = only 256MB ram
Xbox360 = No BT and WIFI
Willcom D4 = only PHS
Shift = Crippled...
sad sad, isnt it?
I would be lying if I say I havent thought about swapping the CPU and I spent hours searching for ram...
i gave up....now my machine is sitting there, waiting for the SHIFT PROJECT
yes your 100% right, but swapping CPU and Ram is harder than swapping a whole Radio Board, just think of it, any HTC (kaiser for example) just mount it in a place inside the shift (after freeying the old space takin by radio) and just figure out how to connect the display, even better since shift has vga, get an advantage or one of those htc with VGA out pout and connect it from within, this is defenatly a project am doing 365 days from now or the second HTC will have a product i will buy (in this case a none crippled SHift), the more input we get from those who have looked inside it and looked inside other HTC's, personally i know how does wallaby, himalaya, jamin, jasjar, advantage look like, i have opened all and usually this is what i do in anything get, the second i the warranty ware off i strip it down to learn
You can't do that. Take a look at the FCC pics and notice the board differences.
well i looked and didn't make any sense earlier but should it be housed exactly the same, would't any radio board that fits withen the space in the shift just do the job?
No, it's connected through a proprietary connector, which you don't have in any other PDA Phone. Also you're not taking into account the Embedded Controller which allows sharing the touchscreen, keyboard, etc, between both systems. See the attached pictures.
oh now that i didn't look at, the controller that would share those things together, though after seeing the board its a close reminder of qtek 1010 or qtek 9090, i assumed that display belt is connected through the MB and keyboard is input is through a shipset like advantage with just keys being remappted throught SW, that what would i do if i was HTC coz then this would just save loads of production line equipment, this is stupid though, SDcard is connected though radio board but works with Main MB, it means almost a year from now we actually might have a full usable mobile, what scare me though is the Bluetooth Shipset, where is located to your knowledge?, i know whats going to happen in the first few realeses, phone will be working only while vista is on to be able to use WIFI and BT for audio routing and VOIP from phone board, then slowly they will become independant again (i guess)
Rabia said:
yes your 100% right, but swapping CPU and Ram is harder than swapping a whole Radio Board, just think of it, any HTC (kaiser for example) just mount it in a place inside the shift (after freeying the old space takin by radio) and just figure out how to connect the display, even better since shift has vga, get an advantage or one of those htc with VGA out pout and connect it from within, this is defenatly a project am doing 365 days from now or the second HTC will have a product i will buy (in this case a none crippled SHift), the more input we get from those who have looked inside it and looked inside other HTC's, personally i know how does wallaby, himalaya, jamin, jasjar, advantage look like, i have opened all and usually this is what i do in anything get, the second i the warranty ware off i strip it down to learn
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Ram isnt that difficult to swap. You can just get a different module, since its not soldered.
Unfortunately, there are only 512MB and 1GB modules commercially available, but give it time and you can purchase 2GB.
About the CPU, nowadays, CPUs are not soldered onto the board like on the VAIO T1 to T5 series. They are glued.
My mate is soldering prototype PCBs for a living. He showed me how he glues SMDs onto the board.
So, you can change them, but its risky to pop the chip off.
But then again, will the BIOS reckognize it? How about power consumption and heat dissipation....maybe not worth the effort.
after looking at the scheme i think other than the keyboard loss its pretty doable, they are completly seperate, other than the display, which i assume the red circled connector is the one for it, i also assume the black and white are for power, other than the keyboard nothing is connected (which i assume the green circled connector is what shares the keyboard and power on etc
Has anyone else had this happening with thier G1 - we have seen quite a few of these in already that just get a blank screen. The backlight is lighting up but no video coming to it from main board.
We have swapped the boards and proved they are good - appears to be issues with the cluster-f*ck of video flex cables they are using on these. We have worked on alot of HTC phones - this is by far one of the worst designs we have seen to date.
Also, be very careful as we have gotten more than a few with broken or bent sim slot pins..the geometry of the slot lends itself to inserting on an angle and this is all it takes to bend those pins and render un-usable.
How do you do this?
I think you are trying to provide a recipe for those of us, that want a non-conspicuous reason to exchange our OTA RC30 G1s to get RC29 or earlier ones, that can be rooted, instead of our securely locked up ones.
Please provide more specific details on how to do this.
Maybe T-Mobile will add a more relaxed policy towards allowing full access to the device for those that want it, if too many get exchanged with these symptoms
I, for one, would be happy to participate in a developer program (possibly even if it had a small fee attached) and waive any warranties on the device, in exchange for unrestricted access. Sounds like a clear win for T-Mobile...
SirGe said:
I think you are trying to provide a recipe for those of us, that want a non-conspicuous reason to exchange our OTA RC30 G1s to get RC29 or earlier ones, that can be rooted, instead of our securely locked up ones.
Please provide more specific details on how to do this.
Maybe T-Mobile will add a more relaxed policy towards allowing full access to the device for those that want it, if too many get exchanged with these symptoms
I, for one, would be happy to participate in a developer program (possibly even if it had a small fee attached) and waive any warranties on the device, in exchange for unrestricted access. Sounds like a clear win for T-Mobile...
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It sounds like the video problem is just the way the device was designed, you couldn't replicate it without opening the phone and voiding warranty. For the SIM slot, however, all you have to do is bend a pin and it won't be able to read the SIM card anymore. I doubt a rep at T-Mobile stores would check this, and even if they did, it's a design flaw in the phone. They could try and manually bend it back, but tell them you're worried about it happening again etc.
Edit: For the problem at hand however, you're not getting any power out from the mainboard to the screen? Are you sure? If you aren't, then it wouldn't be a problem with the mainboard, but you said replacing that had no effect.
I'm a pretty smart guy and I pick up on things quickly, but how people can take a consumer device (xbox, ps3, iphone, router, photoframe, digital camera, etc) and figure out wires and resistors that appear random in many cases to build a jtag connection and then magically dump the firmware and develop their own tweaks or custom firmware just escapes me. I've built jtag connections before, modified or replaced countless firmwares, but every time someone else already did the leg work and supplied a step by step with either pictures or a video. You have guys like geohot who hacked the iphone at like age 19 and then the ps3 shortly after.
I have an aluratek photo frame and I all I want it to do is automatically start the slideshow when the frame is turned on. Something seemingly so simple yet I wouldnt even know where to begin. I imagine it has a feature to upgrade the firmware either by usb or sd card. But I would first need a copy of the OWF and then I would have to know what to change to enable the feature. Maybe it has a jtag connection, but which wires go where I could only guess. I dont see how or where people learn this kind of stuff. It's definitely more then just a google search,
1: about jtag pin :
finding Jtag pin is easy check what cpu inside your hardware and serach shematique now 90% of cpu schema can get from china books, than you need just trace lines to get good soldering point
2: about hacking
after reading flash use any disassembler, ida is very good and with same skill you can reverse what you want
I think this is more dev and hacking than general q&a. Please correct me if that's wrong.
I'm looking for a way to access the primary storage from a different device, or access another device's primary storage from the base hardware. The equivalent of removing a hard drive and putting it in a different computer. As far as I know, bitlocker is not enabled on most platforms unless the policy was enforced with EAS or SCCM, so that shouldn't be an issue. But I only have an HTC 8x to play with right now, and they don't exactly come apart easy. I can't find much documentation for teardowns of any models at all, either.
I guess this all assumes there aren't jtag fuses in the SOC, but I can't find documentation of it. I thought I saw someone with a production device that had something about fuses in an image, but I can't find it.
Since I have an 8x as well, I was thinking the same thing...I was thinking about finding one with a smashed screen to take apart.
I did just get mine back from service, and they changed the back. Therefore, I think there must be a simple "trick" to break in lol
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Since I have an 8x as well, I was thinking the same thing...I was thinking about finding one with a smashed screen to take apart.
I did just get mine back from service, and they changed the back. Therefore, I think there must be a simple "trick" to break in lol
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I'm almost completely certain that it has to do with attaching to a JTAG interface. That will let you access the eMMC controller directly. I just don't know the command set, and haven't touched jtag in forever.
Foreigner here, please be kind =)
Hello everyone, good morning, good afternoon and good night!
Recently I have received some orders for laboratory supplies accompanied by a temperature Datalogger that performs the recording and storage of the temperature history for 11 days.
I've been researching the model and it is for single use and disposable (TempTale 4 USB - Dry Ice version by Sensitech)
I also discovered on some foreign websites that although there is software from the manufacturer to "unlock" the device for later reuse, the acquisition is not compensated due to the low value and the existence of other reusable models of the brand itself (Sensitech).
As this model came by surprise in my hands and no one has other uses for it, I decided to disassemble it and analyze its hardware. It has an Atmel controller that in my opinion could be reprogrammed to reset the programming or even unlock it for other uses.
If possible, I would like to count on the help of experts here on the forum for this. I believe I have come to the right place for this!
I leave some internal and external photos of the device for you guys
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kON9AvEiRVNXjbIdCbus7JY8tHV3H36N?usp=sharing
It is worth mentioning that it has an interesting system that when connecting to the computer automatically generates a pdf report with all the data and graphs of the temperature record and another .ttx file that I still don't know what it is. Both are also in the drive folder for you to look at.
Hello there, your thread is kinda old by now but I am working on this myself.
Unfortunately I cannot provide you with the software for Sensitech dataloggers due to it being a bit risky, I do not want to get into legal trouble with Sensitech or getting fired for a hobby project. However even with the software you won't be able to reset one without somehow altering the chip contents. It will give you an error message that the dataloggers are meant for one time use only and cannot be reprogrammed.
The way to reset them is to manually erase the content of the ARM chip on the board, I don't know much about microchip programming but I have gotten it to work myself completely by accident. Probably by measuring each pin with an oscilloscope probe I have somehow corrupted/erased the programming on this chip. After that a red light started blinking and the word SET appeared on screen. After that I was able to reprogram them.
The TTX file is a more detailed database of the temperature logs, from which you can extract CSV files and do some sort of fancy graph displays and all that. The PDF is just for general overview.
You have a different model than the ones I get though. I have found that by shorting the Winbond chip and rebooting the device (shorting the battery connector briefly) it goes into some sort of error state. The screen will blink and every time you press Stop the actual temperature will be displayed on the screen. I do not know if your model has this too.
Is anyone still working on this? I have an interest in discussing repurposing a temp tale and would like to discuss