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[Q] MyCloud/Splashtop Remote Issue

Greetings all,
First time posting here though I am a longtime supporter and admirer of the XDA community- you guys rock!
My issue is with the Splashtop software used in the MyCloud app by Asus. All in all, this software is amazing- yes, you trade the ability to connect from any internet location (LogMeIn seems to remain best for that unless using RDP/VNC which are not browser based), but you get the most impressive streaming experience I've seen yet on an Android, even beating some Windows-to-Windows LAN streaming on a more powerful laptop than the Transformer!
My issue is this- they only work in windowed mode, but I can tell that games, in terms of graphical fidelity, input lag, and even sound, are totally playable streaming from your PC, even complex graphically intense ones. I say "I can tell" because there's a problem totally separate from the streaming that makes them unplayable. This is a shame, because I would literally be able to play Portal 2 (on an Android device..!?) from anywhere in my apartment if not for this glitch (I can tell by how it runs).
The issue is that, even though the mouse and keyboard (or external USB ones) function properly everywhere else in the OS, inside game windows all kinds of weird stuff seems to happen. I'm fine with having to click-to-drag for mouselook, you can get used to it fairly quickly actually. And not being able to re-map right-click to something more logical is a bummer. But beyond that a large number of things that don't make sense occur:
-To left click, you can't just click or tap, you have to tap, hold, and drag. This is a huge problem and I don't understand it! Outside of the game window, clicking works fine.
-Right clicking doesn't seem to work reliably in-game at ALL
-Keys (at least on the dock keyboard) seem to behave very strangely. Some (like the number keys) appear to always work fine... WASD sometimes work and sometimes don't... other keys never appear to respond. These keys seem to always work fine outside the game window, though.
Has anyone else encountered these issues? Any suggestions? It's frustrating, it's like I'm three tweaks away from the future of gaming and I just can't get there!
Anyway, kudos to Splashtop on the very awesome software despite these quirks. I hope they can be addressed and make this a truly killer app.

List of Problems with the Nexus 7

I received my Google Nexus 7 tablet in the mail a few days ago. While I believe it's a good step forward, I couldn't help but to be annoying by the many little problems I've had with it so far. Below is a partial list of problems I've had with it. I'd love it if someone could give an explanation why Google decided to ship the Nexus 7 with these problems and hope Google fixes them or changes their priorities to address problems like these in the future.
My unformatted list of Nexus 7 problems:
Cannot use Google Voice to make phone calls without downloading a fix from third party software makers. What’s the point of the Google Voice app if by default it doesn’t allow you to make/receive phone calls?
Cannot place custom makers such as “girlfriend’s house” or “grandma’s house” or “picnic spot” in the Navigate app. You cannot say “navigate to grandma’s house” to Google Now.
The Navigate app seems to have enough deficiencies that I question whether it is actually a working app meant to help you navigate. First, you must preload an area if you ever plan on using it to navigate. Second, you must ask to navigate before you leave home while you still have a wireless signal. Third, if while navigating you make a wrong turn the navigation stops working because it tries to recalculates the route then stops when it tries to find the new route and determines the data connection (your wireless network) is no longer available. It also seems to be missing many common navigation features like estimating your speed, miles traveled, or helping to calculate gas mileage (allowing you to input gas amount at fill ups).
When opening search results from Google Now in Chrome two tabs are always opened at the same time. Also, loading pages in Chrome after a Google Now takes too much time. While on my home broadband connection it take 8, 9, or 10 seconds to load a page. It seems like more is going on than simply loading a web page (maybe a few redirects for Google to record/register the search result you picked in order to improve Google Now?).
The main screen, your desktop, does not orient itself based on how you are holding the tablet, while apps can and do. As far as I know, you have to root the tablet and edit some files to get this behavior. This leads me to ask, why didn’t Google just include an option/setting to give the user a choice?
In Google Music the track position slider is placed too close to the next/prior/play/pause/stop buttons. Attempting to move the position regularly results in a pause/stop instead. This is a big pain for resuming audio books when the place marker gets lost if you ever switch tracks (listening to music before the 6 hour audio book is complete). The position slider is also too small (again consider seeking in a 6 hour audio book file). When in landscape mode Google Music splits the controls on one side of the screen and cover art on the other. The net effect is there is no configuration to provide a large track position slider.
Google Play does offer a way to search or browse all widgets. You can see a list of “top widgets”, but when you search it searches for everything, that is all apps and not just for widgets.
Some apps which include widgets are not showing as available for for placement on my desktop. They don’t appear in the list of available widgets. Specifically I downloaded an FTP app with a desktop widget to quickly enable/disable the FTP server. This widget is not to be found in my availble list of widgets.
The “My Library” widget is awkward and hard to use. I am not even sure if it works correctly. I have several podcasts and audio books, but when click their tiles in the “My Library” widget, nothing happens.
Options are a mess. My eyesight is really poor and getting worse. I can use options in one place to increase the fonts size, and that same option is missing or moved somewhere else in another application. Even the options buttons move around from app to app. Regarding text size, on a PC at least I can change the font size system wide by changing display properties in one place.
While the voice search in Google Now, there are certain chinks in its voice recognition which become frustrating very quickly. I tried to send my friend an email about the “olympics day one”, and it kept thinking I saying “olympics they want” even though I was speaking cleanly and clearly with a mid west american accent. Similar misunderstanding have happened occasionally, and when I try to correct them by speaking again and again, the voe recognition gets it wrong every time. Eventually I give up and manually type out my words.

Literally none of those are at fault of the N7. These are all software issues.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

OP here.
Yes, I am not specifically having problems the hardware. I am finding annoyances with how the software works on the hardware. When I say Google Voice doesn't allow allow phone calls, yes that's a software problem.

It's a quad core 7 inch tablet for $199...stop nitpicking!!!
Seriously? Do you use tablets on a regular basis? Do you use android extensively? Because anyone who does, realizes that, in comparison, Jellybean on nexus 7 is pretty damn decent for a first release. So giving feedback on issues is great and will help Google improve-but saying you are annoyed that a tablet(any kind) has issues a couple of weeks after being on the market with brand new software...clearly shows how unrealistic your expectations actually are. Furthermore, to address some of your comments more specifically: (1)This tablet is wifi only-mainly to save on cost. That means you cannot really use GPS in the same way as a 3G enabled device. (2) Voice recognition is rarely precise and Siri has a ton of issues(I Have the new iphone and ipad) (3) Please do not compare font rendering to a PC-this is a 7 inch tablet-not something10 times bgger (4) Finally...what on earth are you doing with a 7 inch tablet if your eyesight is failing so much?
sysrpl said:
I received my Google Nexus 7 tablet in the mail a few days ago. While I believe it's a good step forward, I couldn't help but to be annoying by the many little problems I've had with it so far. Below is a partial list of problems I've had with it. I'd love it if someone could give an explanation why Google decided to ship the Nexus 7 with these problems and hope Google fixes them or changes their priorities to address problems like these in the future.
My unformatted list of Nexus 7 problems:
Cannot use Google Voice to make phone calls without downloading a fix from third party software makers. What’s the point of the Google Voice app if by default it doesn’t allow you to make/receive phone calls?
Cannot place custom makers such as “girlfriend’s house” or “grandma’s house” or “picnic spot” in the Navigate app. You cannot say “navigate to grandma’s house” to Google Now.
The Navigate app seems to have enough deficiencies that I question whether it is actually a working app meant to help you navigate. First, you must preload an area if you ever plan on using it to navigate. Second, you must ask to navigate before you leave home while you still have a wireless signal. Third, if while navigating you make a wrong turn the navigation stops working because it tries to recalculates the route then stops when it tries to find the new route and determines the data connection (your wireless network) is no longer available. It also seems to be missing many common navigation features like estimating your speed, miles traveled, or helping to calculate gas mileage (allowing you to input gas amount at fill ups).
When opening search results from Google Now in Chrome two tabs are always opened at the same time. Also, loading pages in Chrome after a Google Now takes too much time. While on my home broadband connection it take 8, 9, or 10 seconds to load a page. It seems like more is going on than simply loading a web page (maybe a few redirects for Google to record/register the search result you picked in order to improve Google Now?).
The main screen, your desktop, does not orient itself based on how you are holding the tablet, while apps can and do. As far as I know, you have to root the tablet and edit some files to get this behavior. This leads me to ask, why didn’t Google just include an option/setting to give the user a choice?
In Google Music the track position slider is placed too close to the next/prior/play/pause/stop buttons. Attempting to move the position regularly results in a pause/stop instead. This is a big pain for resuming audio books when the place marker gets lost if you ever switch tracks (listening to music before the 6 hour audio book is complete). The position slider is also too small (again consider seeking in a 6 hour audio book file). When in landscape mode Google Music splits the controls on one side of the screen and cover art on the other. The net effect is there is no configuration to provide a large track position slider.
Google Play does offer a way to search or browse all widgets. You can see a list of “top widgets”, but when you search it searches for everything, that is all apps and not just for widgets.
Some apps which include widgets are not showing as available for for placement on my desktop. They don’t appear in the list of available widgets. Specifically I downloaded an FTP app with a desktop widget to quickly enable/disable the FTP server. This widget is not to be found in my availble list of widgets.
The “My Library” widget is awkward and hard to use. I am not even sure if it works correctly. I have several podcasts and audio books, but when click their tiles in the “My Library” widget, nothing happens.
Options are a mess. My eyesight is really poor and getting worse. I can use options in one place to increase the fonts size, and that same option is missing or moved somewhere else in another application. Even the options buttons move around from app to app. Regarding text size, on a PC at least I can change the font size system wide by changing display properties in one place.
While the voice search in Google Now, there are certain chinks in its voice recognition which become frustrating very quickly. I tried to send my friend an email about the “olympics day one”, and it kept thinking I saying “olympics they want” even though I was speaking cleanly and clearly with a mid west american accent. Similar misunderstanding have happened occasionally, and when I try to correct them by speaking again and again, the voe recognition gets it wrong every time. Eventually I give up and manually type out my words.
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While the Nexus 7 has alot going for it, I still agree with the OP. There are still some basic hardware (unchangable) shortcomings that should have been addressed in this product. I am not a tablet expert and the Nexus 7 is my first android device. Don't hold this against me. As someone who shouldn't yet have the skills to push the boundaries of the device here is my list of deficiencies:
-Back-side hi-res camera. Yes, you look odd taking pictures with a tablet but you look weirder taking pictures over your head facing the wrong way. Tablet cams have their place and are useful for a number of things. They are especially handy in the smaller format 7" tablets.
-4 conductor headphone/microphone jack instead of the 3 conductor headphone jack. The Nexus 7 tablet has poor accoustic performance for making VoIP calls with the builtin speaker and mic. By including this style of jack they would have overcome this issue. One of the main reasons for travelling with a laptop or tablet is to use Wifi hotspts to make free VoIP calls home. With the poor acoustics of the Nexus 7 and no way around them, this tablet is a poor solution for the traveller and I would recommend something else.
-ability to connect with the mic of a bluetooth headset. While the Nexus 7 has Bluetooth, it will not connect to a Bluetooth headset and allow the mic to work. The mic of a bluetooth headset could offer another way around the lousy acoustical design. This would not mean that the 4 conductor jack should be excluded as when you are travelling it is nice to not have another device to power.
- micro SD slot. This one is big. The absence of this slot is the one thing that really made me think twice about buying the product. With no way to add memory, I'm boxed in and I don't have the easy trasfer or files that the SD card brings. While 16 G seems enough now, add some movies, music and offline maps and quickly the memory is full. This is 2012. Memory is cheap and will become cheaper. So why pin me down?
Some might wish for the HDMI port but this is not too important for me.

LttrX said:
-Back-side hi-res camera. Yes, you look odd taking pictures with a tablet but you look weirder taking pictures over your head facing the wrong way. Tablet cams have their place and are useful for a number of things. They are especially handy in the smaller format 7" tablets.
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Seriously, your Nexus 7 can be configured to have the best camera experience BAR NONE, even the latest Apple iPhone 5 will be totally lame in comparison (disclaimer, it's more expensive, but what the heck, it's really darn cool!!!)
Nexus 7 used as HD monitor and controller with ultra-high-resolution DSLR camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4X6olWN3-g
Of course this is tongue in cheek, I'd also really like a single device to carry that does a much better job of taking pictures. However, for a little more I could have gotten a tab that had the camera, but half the processor/graphics performance. I purchased it knowing it didn't have the back-side camera.
LttrX said:
-4 conductor headphone/microphone jack instead of the 3 conductor headphone jack. The Nexus 7 tablet has poor acoustic performance for making VoIP calls with the builtin speaker and mic. By including this style of jack they would have overcome this issue. One of the main reasons for travelling with a laptop or tablet is to use Wifi hotspts to make free VoIP calls home. With the poor acoustics of the Nexus 7 and no way around them, this tablet is a poor solution for the traveller and I would recommend something else.
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Is this just a three conductor jack? Or is it possible that it is a 4 conductor and the software support is just absent? The tear downs don't show the solder pads, so it's difficult to tell. But the traces indicate more conductors than a 3 conductor jack would require.
LttrX said:
-ability to connect with the mic of a bluetooth headset. While the Nexus 7 has Bluetooth, it will not connect to a Bluetooth headset and allow the mic to work. The mic of a bluetooth headset could offer another way around the lousy acoustical design. This would not mean that the 4 conductor jack should be excluded as when you are travelling it is nice to not have another device to power.
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Confirmed this with my Plantronics BackBeat 903 Stereo bluetooth headset. I suspect that this is a software issue, as that is simply more content to stream via bluetooth. Perhaps this will be in 4.1.2? Let's add this to the Google requests... http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy
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- micro SD slot. This one is big. The absence of this slot is the one thing that really made me think twice about buying the product. With no way to add memory, I'm boxed in and I don't have the easy trasfer or files that the SD card brings. While 16 G seems enough now, add some movies, music and offline maps and quickly the memory is full. This is 2012. Memory is cheap and will become cheaper. So why pin me down?
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Not a perfect solution and no where the same in functionality, but I use a MicroSD to MicroUSB adapter. Using an app allows me to access content from the SD, but not to install apps there. Google could write code to allow native mounting from the USB port, but will they?
I'm not sure they left this out due to cost, as the parts are supper cheap. I'm more inclined to think it's a way to enforce us to embrace their Cloud architecture vis-a-vie Google Play and streamed movies/music. But Wi-Fi isn't ubiquitous enough to really pull that off yet. Strongly wish a MicroSD was present, but I purchased knowing this was the case.
LttrX said:
Some might wish for the HDMI port but this is not too important for me.
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Perhaps we'll see Miracast? HD via Wireless. Apparently the Tegra3 SOC used supports it, so it may be a matter for Google to code for it.

Wow, I've had my N7 since July 21st and never realized how crappy it is!!!!!!

Holly crow!!! "Nexus 7 used as HD monitor and controller with ultra-high-resolution DSLR camera" :cyclops:
That was gay. err Funny and weird. err puzzling and stupid. emm okay just really gay. (no offence intended)

Do NOT buy this thing!!!

Wow, talk about a terrible experience. The MOJO is absolutely NOT ready for production. I was able to find maybe 10 games that were even compatible with it, and only ONE game that actually used the controller as advertised. NOVA 3 almost worked but even then there were some functions that didn't work (like swapping weapons, sorta important). The list of compatible games is misleading; many of those games will load, but they will not function with the controller (meaning: not at all).
Madcatz claims that the TegraZone games will work with the MOJO - that is a lie. Only a handful of them actually work. A gaming console that only works with a handful of games is pretty useless.
I updated the firmware exactly as instructed, and after rebooting the wifi did not work at all (it did before the update). An Android console without functional wifi is a paperweight.
I am going to return this unit and try to get a Nvidia Shield instead. I got the MOJO for my kid for Christmass. Talk about a disappointment. Luckily he also got a PS4, so it wasn't a total disaster.
The MOJO is an interesting concept, and if they ever get it working right it might - *might* - be worth the money. But as of now, no, not even close. Stay FAR away from this thing for now. You've been warned.

I'm starting to agree....Out of the 372 apps I've purchased, only five were compatible and able to download. I've sideloaded a couple, but cannot map the controller properly.
I'll give it a few more days and some tinkering.

I wished to read this before I buy it back to ouya without developer MOJO = 0 with all respect

ExtremeRyno said:
I'm starting to agree....Out of the 372 apps I've purchased, only five were compatible and able to download. I've sideloaded a couple, but cannot map the controller properly.
I'll give it a few more days and some tinkering.
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Interested in selling it?

Not just yet..I've been sideloading apps all day. Watching some streaming movies on it right now. It's a very capable machine, but fairly annoying having to sideload anything useful.

Well so far little disappointed but I like it just waiting until root which hopefully we can mod the build prop to show apps in store. Don't side load much using a aptoide. . From what I understand the tegra 4 still pretty new so I'm guessing that's why some of these games not playing. Patience it will get better

Yeah...Updated the firmware and now the Wifi is dead. Unable to "Turn On." WTF....

Yea the way I've mostly gotten over the No apps work issue is by sideloading. Its annoying though because if there's feature updates you have to backup from my other devices, transfer and install again to get the updates. The power is nice though. Nova 3 and Dead trigger look good even though their not a very good games its still a good showing of what the Mojo can do. And if you're into emulators most of them out there work great with the controller and have no trouble doing kool stuff. Unfortunately at the moment the mojo is mostly making me excited for a Minix device with equivalent specs as Minix devices don't have the same app store issue.

What are you using for your backups? I tried AppMonster, but haven't had a chance to sideload the backups to the MOJO yet.

Titanium Backup on a rooted device. It just backs apks to a zip file. If there's extra data I just move the obb files over manually via an sd card.

ExtremeRyno said:
Yeah...Updated the firmware and now the Wifi is dead. Unable to "Turn On." WTF....
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This. When this happened, that's when I decided to return it. It's a paperweight without wifi.

fisterkev said:
This. When this happened, that's when I decided to return it. It's a paperweight without wifi.
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Yea that really sux. That's the kind of stuff that you never want to see happen.
To be honest this feels more like a developer/beta release. The hardware is there and is for the most part great, could use an off/off button and an otg port. But the way it interacts with the ecosystem that currently exists is much too, I hate to say it, fragmented. There are more apps coming to the play store and I've seen a few pop in the last couple of days but its still hasn't hit anywhere near that critical mass point where its useable for anyone without some android nerdery. Which begs the question why didn't Mad Catz support that nerdery with things like an otg port, pre root/root tools at launch etc. Though the pre-bootloader unlock is a good start.
Its also clear google really has no interest in this kind of product YET by the way that the play store is currently laid out and hides paid apps from the main frontend, you have to search for paid apps specifically or by type. Its really going to be a rough year of slow apps incoming and building up momentum about this time next year I think it might start to be a valid for some main stream gamers. I'm worried that Mad Catz might feel that's too long to support and update this new market product. Luckily the markets going to grow either way but I'd like to see this product along for the ride.
All that being said I use this product every day, really like it, and whenever I'm home its on and being used in some way. Be that gaming, local movies, streaming video, or music but I took a path to set it up that very very few will and most I fear will have the same experience with '**** don't work then I updated It and less **** works. Return'. And that really sux.

So, I purchased from Amazon on 26th Dec. (Note, I'm REALLY trying to like this device because I really like the hardware). As an update to the OP info, mine came with firmware 0110 and NOVA 3's weapon change works fine, but the buttons are mapped really stupid - the trigger is not the fire button, the shoulder button is. Trigger changes weapons.
NFS MW installed from backed-up APK, and it detects controller and says you can set it up in the config menu, but you cannot get to the config menu with either controller, keyboard, or mouse, so it is unplayable.
I got a Real Racing 3 APK from a bad place and it does not seem to support controllers at all, and also does not seem to recognize the Tegra, so it is terrible looking and unplayable.
Shadowgun works great and you can assign all functions to buttons on the controller. This was also a backed-up APK. You cannot install the THD version; even if you could get the APK on there it won't let you dl the THD data.
Overall, my experience has been terrible. Yay! I'm so excited!

defectivedonkey said:
So, I purchased from Amazon on 26th Dec. (Note, I'm REALLY trying to like this device because I really like the hardware). As an update to the OP info, mine came with firmware 0110 and NOVA 3's weapon change works fine, but the buttons are mapped really stupid - the trigger is not the fire button, the shoulder button is. Trigger changes weapons.
NFS MW installed from backed-up APK, and it detects controller and says you can set it up in the config menu, but you cannot get to the config menu with either controller, keyboard, or mouse, so it is unplayable.
I got a Real Racing 3 APK from a bad place and it does not seem to support controllers at all, and also does not seem to recognize the Tegra, so it is terrible looking and unplayable.
Shadowgun works great and you can assign all functions to buttons on the controller. This was also a backed-up APK. You cannot install the THD version; even if you could get the APK on there it won't let you dl the THD data.
Overall, my experience has been terrible. Yay! I'm so excited!
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I find the controller works better if I switch it do mouse mode or PC mode, depending on the game.
It's the game developers who must designate that a controller can be used for their game. If they don't, then no dice. Can't blame them tho, how could they have seen devices like these coming. I'm willing to bet almost EVERY new game becomes controller compatible. Hang in.. Still brand new device. Developers will adapt. And besides, unlike a ps2, it won't become outdated as fast. Games will just continue to improve!

Mojorising said:
I find the controller works better if I switch it do mouse mode or PC mode, depending on the game.
It's the game developers who must designate that a controller can be used for their game. If they don't, then no dice. Can't blame them tho, how could they have seen devices like these coming. I'm willing to bet almost EVERY new game becomes controller compatible. Hang in.. Still brand new device. Developers will adapt. And besides, unlike a ps2, it won't become outdated as fast. Games will just continue to improve!
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Aww, we can blame the developers a little bit. I mean, come on, ANDROID developers? They often hang out on this very site where people have been hacking their butts off for years adding controller support to games. It might be a big deal to add controller support to a finished game if it wasn't developed with that in mind but I'm with you, it will be expected in the future.
In the mean time I would really like it if we could install one of those apps that lets you map buttons to touchscreen presses. That would help a lot!

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Aww, we can blame the developers a little bit. I mean, come on, ANDROID developers? They often hang out on this very site where people have been hacking their butts off for years adding controller support to games. It might be a big deal to add controller support to a finished game if it wasn't developed with that in mind but I'm with you, it will be expected in the future.
In the mean time I would really like it if we could install one of those apps that lets you map buttons to touchscreen presses. That would help a lot!
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Yes, but developers have been working on gamepad support. The MOGA supposedly has 230 games which work with their controllers, which happens to be a great feat because often developers are not likely to upgrade their older stuff (gameloft is notorious for this where their old games are "not compatible" with newer devices, even if the resolution is the same and the hardware more powerful.

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Yes, but developers have been working on gamepad support. The MOGA supposedly has 230 games which work with their controllers, which happens to be a great feat because often developers are not likely to upgrade their older stuff (gameloft is notorious for this where their old games are "not compatible" with newer devices, even if the resolution is the same and the hardware more powerful.
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I think I got distracted writing the post you replied to. When I was talking about "controller support" I really meant to say something like button mapping. You know? Essentially, you let android handle the input device, and just have a method to map input signals to your calls. Like, how the emulators let you map each button press of a controller to an action in the emulator. By abstracting away the interface to the actual controller, ANY android supported device could be mapped. You would never have to worry about someone building a new controller that you have to write non-reusable code for. This MOGA nonsense just seems dirty, but then again, I'm not an Android dev, so there may be something more to it than I realize. I just can't put together in my head how I'd even write something that didn't abstract the input -- what if I wanted to change it later? I don't know....I hate the idea of "Support the MOGA!" "Support the CNTRLR!" No -- support everything! It SHOULD be easier!

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I think I got distracted writing the post you replied to. When I was talking about "controller support" I really meant to say something like button mapping. You know? Essentially, you let android handle the input device, and just have a method to map input signals to your calls. Like, how the emulators let you map each button press of a controller to an action in the emulator. By abstracting away the interface to the actual controller, ANY android supported device could be mapped. You would never have to worry about someone building a new controller that you have to write non-reusable code for. This MOGA nonsense just seems dirty, but then again, I'm not an Android dev, so there may be something more to it than I realize. I just can't put together in my head how I'd even write something that didn't abstract the input -- what if I wanted to change it later? I don't know....I hate the idea of "Support the MOGA!" "Support the CNTRLR!" No -- support everything! It SHOULD be easier!
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You mentioned the mapping but as an app. And I wasn't talking about MOGA versus CNTRL either. I was thinking more along the lines like with Windows PCs they have generic controller recognition (sure, you can install apps and drivers for better compatibility) where you normally get at least basic functionality. But yeah, one could avoid those problems if they had the same functionality of emulators where they map functionality based on the readings when buttons are pressed. It would make things quite a bit easier in general for them (a little but more work for us but only when playing a game for the first time).

The next app I'm gonna rip from my tablet is the Sixaxis app that allows you to map the buttons for the PS3 controller. I use it on my tablet for any possible game. You can assign buttons swipe actions, too. Very handy. There are a few other apps out there that do this with generic BT controllers, so we might just have to start trying them out. MadCatz surely should have created one for the MOJO before it was ever released. This was a big stupid on their part.

Hello All,
This is Nathan from Mad Catz. Our apologies for the inconveniences you've been facing. I unfortunately could not replicate your wifi problem. One note is that most MOJOs that have been made available should have already been on "MO0110-WW", so this step could be skipped if you don't need it.
Before any update, you can also go into your google account settings, choose your account, and then choose "Sync now" from the menu in the top right. If wifi is not working, you can use a wired ethernet connection to at least do this step. If you're forced to do the "factory reset" option to fix the wifi, when you do the initial setup again, choose to "restore" from your google account. Outside of apps that have been sideloaded, this should start downloads of everything that was downloaded from the google play store shortly after the initial setup is finished. You can check which ones are being re-downloaded by going into the Play Store and then checking your "My apps".

Nexus 6 as car stereo with Chromecast and Appradio

I just set up my phone to cast itself to my car stereo when my car turns on.
http://youtu.be/Ii2GebpoWjE
I hate listening to the radio commercials, and I don't want a navigation mounted in my window. Now I have streaming music and nav right in my car dash.

Cool. How does the car receive the cast?

almahix said:
Cool. How does the car receive the cast?
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The Appradio has an HDMI on the back, and I just put the chrome cast on my wifi hotspot.

Cool.

That's sick. I was just thinking the other day what the hell I was going to do with my $400 AppRadio I haven't been able to use with either of my last two phones, the MotoX or the N6 . Great idea, throw a Chromecast in it. Idk how hard casting the screen is on the battery but it has to be better than MHL was, and none of that static nonsense either.
Thanks man.

Nice work OP!
I've been looking to do something similar in my '11 STI. I'd love to incorporate the Android experience into my car's dash. I previously looked at the App Radio but people were reporting the annoying delay in the touch screen. Then I started looking at the new Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo, which seems to be a perfect solution. But at $500+, I just can't justify it.
NASIOC thread on the Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2650504
Alternatively, permanently installing the Nexus 7 still seems to be the best option. But it requires some custom modification, which I really don't want to do.
NASIOC thread on the Nexus 7 install:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2459432
I've been looking into this for over a year now and I still can't figure out which direction to go.

I had an AppRadio 3. Hated it. To get app mode working was a huge pain, then I needed a parking brake bypass. It kept costing more and more. I ended up buying an AVIC and got rid of it. The AppRadio was so lacking in features for the price it was sickening.

Bluetooth anyone?
rustid said:
I just set up my phone to cast itself to my car stereo when my car turns on.
http://youtu.be/Ii2GebpoWjE
I hate listening to the radio commercials, and I don't want a navigation mounted in my window. Now I have streaming music and nav right in my car dash.
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Have not listen to a radio in over six years, welcome to the age of hands free. And if you use bluetooth and Enhanced Caller ID from app store, it will read your mail and text to you and allow you to respond with your voice and read what you said back and ask you if it's okay to send. So uh, seems like your doing things the hard way. Plenty of great sounding receivers out there that will give you a hell of a sound that include bluetooth and have built in mics along with USB ports and HDMI so, get one that gives you great sound and power and a mount that goes in the radios CD slot and you are set to go with a touch screen a moment away and hands free everything else. There is also an assistant app you can get at the play store to do many commands that are phone related with just your voice. Personally, I get in my car, put the phone in its wireless charging dashboard mount, The NFC sticker on the mount turns bluetooth on/off for me automatically and stream to my hearts content. Easy and affordable. What cost me the most was good speakers and some power amps to push the sound through.

wow, sweet! I I have been looking into how I could get my appradio 2 up and running again since getting the nexus..
Looks like a chromecast is on my shortlist again! thanks!
BTW, would you mind posting your tasker setup/file?

tsy87 said:
wow, sweet! I I have been looking into how I could get my appradio 2 up and running again since getting the nexus..
Looks like a chromecast is on my shortlist again! thanks!
BTW, would you mind posting your tasker setup/file?
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I will update the OP with my tasks, but I am using the app AutoInput in conjunction so it might not work for you directly. I will see if AutoInput will export as well.
vvveith said:
Have not listen to a radio in over six years, welcome to the age of hands free. And if you use bluetooth and Enhanced Caller ID from app store, it will read your mail and text to you and allow you to respond with your voice and read what you said back and ask you if it's okay to send. So uh, seems like your doing things the hard way. Plenty of great sounding receivers out there that will give you a hell of a sound that include bluetooth and have built in mics along with USB ports and HDMI so, get one that gives you great sound and power and a mount that goes in the radios CD slot and you are set to go with a touch screen a moment away and hands free everything else. There is also an assistant app you can get at the play store to do many commands that are phone related with just your voice. Personally, I get in my car, put the phone in its wireless charging dashboard mount, The NFC sticker on the mount turns bluetooth on/off for me automatically and stream to my hearts content. Easy and affordable. What cost me the most was good speakers and some power amps to push the sound through.
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I leave bluetooth on all the time because I have a lot of devices. I have not listened to the radio for 12 years, and I don't have any intention of starting. My previous phone had to plug in and I had a little dock made where I could hide my phone away. I am going to get a magnetic Qi mount I think now that I am completely wireless, I just mostly wanted to show people how it works with a chromecast in this video. I also use hands free and voice for everything.
sn0warmy said:
Nice work OP!
I've been looking to do something similar in my '11 STI. I'd love to incorporate the Android experience into my car's dash. I previously looked at the App Radio but people were reporting the annoying delay in the touch screen. Then I started looking at the new Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo, which seems to be a perfect solution. But at $500+, I just can't justify it.
NASIOC thread on the Ca-Fi Dashlinq4 Android Car Stereo:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2650504
Alternatively, permanently installing the Nexus 7 still seems to be the best option. But it requires some custom modification, which I really don't want to do.
NASIOC thread on the Nexus 7 install:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2459432
I've been looking into this for over a year now and I still can't figure out which direction to go.
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I personally don't notice a huge touch delay. It is there I guess, but I don't notice it. I really like my setup, even more so now that it is wireless. I usually use voice commands for navigation, text, and music, so I never touch the screen to notice the slight lag anyhow. It all depends on how you use it though.
GoogleAndroid said:
I had an AppRadio 3. Hated it. To get app mode working was a huge pain, then I needed a parking brake bypass. It kept costing more and more. I ended up buying an AVIC and got rid of it. The AppRadio was so lacking in features for the price it was sickening.
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It was a little spendy, but 100% mirror on my phone makes it have every feature I could ever want. Putting my phone on the dash, I can't think of anything it doesn't do.
EvanVanVan said:
That's sick. I was just thinking the other day what the hell I was going to do with my $400 AppRadio I haven't been able to use with either of my last two phones, the MotoX or the N6 . Great idea, throw a Chromecast in it. Idk how hard casting the screen is on the battery but it has to be better than MHL was, and none of that static nonsense either.
Thanks man.
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If it is plugged in it charges faster than it drains, haven't tried Qi yet, but will figure out how I will do it and get a cool magnetic dock. I cant kill the battery over a day anyhow so I don't even plug it in most of the time while I am driving.

I'm using the Microsoft Miracast wireless display adapter on my AppRadio2. Works rather well. I had to edit the build.prop to enable Miracast though. Next up is a wireless charging mat to go 100% wireless on mine. Thanks for the tip on AutoInput, will be nice to fully automate the connection process.

there also needs to be a process that lets you turn off the screen
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Sweet, right now there is a promo to get the chromecast for 23 bucks from target and google will give you $20 in google play credit.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7484988-google-chromecast-wireless-hdmi-streaming-dongle-23-free-shipping

Connecting Chromecast to a device with a touch screen allowed you to control your phone this way, or is that a feature of the device you used?

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there also needs to be a process that lets you turn off the screen
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Sweet, right now there is a promo to get the chromecast for 23 bucks from target and google will give you $20 in google play credit.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7484988-google-chromecast-wireless-hdmi-streaming-dongle-23-free-shipping
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If you turn off the screen then it wont cast. That is why I have brightness set to lowest when it runs. Still charges faster than drains, so I just set it upside down and forget about it.

rustid said:
If you turn off the screen then it wont cast. That is why I have brightness set to lowest when it runs. Still charges faster than drains, so I just set it upside down and forget about it.
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I know, but there were apps for other phones that would cut the power to the screen but trick it into thinking it was still on... Granted they never worked perfectly, but that would be ideal if they did.

SymbioticGenius said:
Connecting Chromecast to a device with a touch screen allowed you to control your phone this way, or is that a feature of the device you used?
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Yeah it's the AppRadio, the Chromecast is just used for displaying the screen. The AppRadio sends the coordinates of the touches it detects to the phone via bluetooth.

tsy87 said:
I know, but there were apps for other phones that would cut the power to the screen but trick it into thinking it was still on... Granted they never worked perfectly, but that would be ideal if they did.
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When I did this with my galaxy nexus I used Screen off #ROOT or something, but it hasn't worked for a phone since that one. I haven't found a good one that does it since then, but to be honest I haven't really looked in a year or so.

I'm wondering if it would be possible to have the display output with the phone "locked" since it will show the clock on an external display when off and locked.

I just confirmed that "Screen Standby ♯ Root" does work for turning off the N6 screen while still mirroring to AppRadio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby

Or u could just stream it through Bluetooth?
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Video playback on Remix - extremely choppy please help before I go insane!

I posted a thread up a while ago about playback being poor on Remix with 50Hz content (mods please delete that thread thank you), but it seems following a recent fresh install that all video playback is absolutely terrible no matter how I approach it.
I use an external WD 2Tb drive which connects via Stickmount. This is working fine for roms and also on other units (Ouya, Rpi2 etc). It's a mains powered drive and I plug it directly into the USB 2 slot and then into the wall so it doesn't use the MOJO's power. My telly admittedly isn't the best - it's an old Samsung 32" HD Ready thing that usually only goes to 720p (but will detect and utilise 1080p as evidenced by my Ouya) but it has never displayed this issue before. Ouya playback wasn't amazing, but it was way better than I'm experiencing here.
No matter what media player I use, be it Kodi, SPMC, MX Player, VLC or even directly from the gallery, all playback from local files on the drive (mp4, MKV, avi, divx and so on) is extremely choppy. Frames seem to be dropping, jumping and lagging, making video viewing unbearable. At first I thought it was the media player, but no matter what I settings I adjust the video will stutter. I've tried my own recommended settings, and many different types of combinations but nothing stops it. Believe me, I've spent hours at this! I've even tried changing out the HDMI cable for something better but it's made no difference.
So now I'm pretty confident this is happening at system level and cannot be addressed in the player's settings. There must be a setting somewhere that needs to be addressed to enable better video playback. Please please help me, I am going insane. Or could it be the TV and I should buy a proper HD set?
Either way, help me end this madness please!

Too late to get help before you go insane--you're addicted to Androids.
Do you have the same problem streaming from the internet? That would tell us if it's an input or output problem. Also, don't let's overlook the obvious--are you plugging in the HDD into the USB3 port or the USB2? Have you tried copying a file to a good fast microSD card and playing it from there? (the Samsung EVOs recently dropped in price dramatically). And it might be worth trying out CM12.1 again too. Maybe even trying a different USB cable to the HDD. But you didn't have this problem before you reinstalled RemixOS, did you? I'm rambling but I want to get as many ideas out before my short-term memory loss kicks in. But I would think the MOJO has plenty of horsepower on any Lollipop ROM to play videos at 1080p. Resource hog running in the background? Did you try a task killer?

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Too late to get help before you go insane--you're addicted to Androids.
Do you have the same problem streaming from the internet? That would tell us if it's an input or output problem. Also, don't let's overlook the obvious--are you plugging in the HDD into the USB3 port or the USB2? Have you tried copying a file to a good fast microSD card and playing it from there? (the Samsung EVOs recently dropped in price dramatically). And it might be worth trying out CM12.1 again too. Maybe even trying a different USB cable to the HDD. But you didn't have this problem before you reinstalled RemixOS, did you? I'm rambling but I want to get as many ideas out before my short-term memory loss kicks in. But I would think the MOJO has plenty of horsepower on any Lollipop ROM to play videos at 1080p. Resource hog running in the background? Did you try a task killer?
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Thanks for your detailed reply!
1. Playing video via the YouTube app looks fine.
2. The HDD is plugged in via USB2. The CTRLR dongle is in the USB3 slot.
3. Haven't tried playing a file via SD Card. I have a good Sandisk one somewhere and will give it a go. Good idea.
4. Will certainly try a newer USB cable as I do like to eliminate the obvious and easy solutions first where possible. But no, I did not have this issue with the Rpi or the Ouya.
5. I will try a task killer but like you I don't think this is the issue. Going into Remix settings there doesn't seem to be anything reported as taking up a lot of memory.
Two things I have tried since posting. First was playing the same files with OSMC on Rpi2, and second was changing the HQ scaling on the MOJO in SPMC. On OSMC I notice I do seem to have a duff file, one in particular that first got me worried, but I was still getting some judder with other files. As for HQ scaling, my Google Fu reveals the usual recommended setting is 20% rather than the default 0%. But after playing with it, I've put it right up to 70% and this seriously seems to have helped. I'll keep playing and see how it works across different files. It's such a shame that Android doesn't switch the display mode like Linux does on demand.
I don't think it's the fault of Remix any more tbh. I'm pretty sure I can get this right. But there's a lot of trial and error and I have a lot of varying content to cater for. However if all else fails I will indeed give CM 12.1 another go. Unless there's going to be a CM 13 soon....
Again, thanks for your help.

I think first I'd try swapping the dongle and the HDD, see if the USB3 port does it. Next another USB cable, is the HDD USB3 compliant? If so make sure the cable is also.
I wouldn't count on any more development happening for the MOJO. Aside from Mad Catz, there has been only one developer working on it, and I haven't seen any posts from him lately. CM makes it as easy as humanly possible to port their ROM to any given machine, and they publish a guide for it, so next time I have a few months off I might try to aquire that skill. But don't hold your breath.

The HDD is USB2 only. I'm going to try a shorter cable I think, if I can find one in my cupboard, but I'm hoping I've fixed it in the settings for now. I hope so anyway as I really like Remix OS and don't want to change.
No, I don't have any expectation of any further development really. I just remember UJD talking about the possibility of CM13 but that was some time ago. To be honest though if there was never another made for the MOJO, it wouldn't upset me very much. We already have three or four brilliant options on 5.1.1 that are a huge step up from the stock rom. I consider myself very spoilt for choice.

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The HDD is USB2 only. I'm going to try a shorter cable I think, if I can find one in my cupboard, but I'm hoping I've fixed it in the settings for now. I hope so anyway as I really like Remix OS and don't want to change.
No, I don't have any expectation of any further development really. I just remember UJD talking about the possibility of CM13 but that was some time ago. To be honest though if there was never another made for the MOJO, it wouldn't upset me very much. We already have three or four brilliant options on 5.1.1 that are a huge step up from the stock rom. I consider myself very spoilt for choice.
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Ya, I feel exactly the same way. FWIW I also feel that way about my Asus TFs; I now have marshmallow ROMs for TF300 and TF700, and the performance from 3 and 4-yr-old tablets is amazing.