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please help and answer about what you know.. thanks
1) i heard then exyos 5 chip does support LTE 4G in korea version, and the exact same chip is installed in i9500 international version so there may be a chance that LTE will be enabled using rooting features or something?
2) do you know a good store or something in Europe (if you have in Italy it would be much better) from where I can buy GALAXY S4 I9500 version with 650$-750$(max). (looking for 16GB version)
3) do you know where can I buy extended battery for S4 (at least 3,000 mah) and I hope it wont be needed special case or something.. im looking for a good battery but not too big.. I dont know if there are already good batteries, or its still early to ask
4) there is NO fm radio in S4?
5) what is the download speed for S4 (i9500) using 3G network? is it better than S3 although its still 3G and not 4G ?
Galaxy s4 development questions:
2) there will be AOKP based rom or good roms for s4 or its still too early to talk about it?
3) do you think there will be clean- android rom (without samsung stock design) PLUS full customization like s1-3 have ?
4) I wanna buy galaxy s4 soon but im afraid..there are great roms for S1 (like AOKP) .. i hope there will be stable+fast roms with a lot of features.. i wanna enjoy my phone and NOT like s1 (because good roms for s1 came 1 YEAR after i bought it.. hope it wont be the same with S4)
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5) i never realized that.. why would simple developers make "boost" to the SD CARD, RAM ect.. and not samsung?
my father says never overclock or something because Samsung does its best and if you boost something, it hurts something else.. is that true?
6) do you think there will be good and optimistic Overclocking+ boosting features for S4?
7) I heard a new linux kernel has been released .. will it be used in Android 4.3? do you think it will boost s4 performance?
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please help and answer about what you know.. thanks
1) i heard then exyos 5 chip does support LTE 4G in korea version, and the exact same chip is installed in i9500 international version so there may be a chance that LTE will be enabled using rooting features or something?
2) do you know a good store or something in Europe (if you have in Italy it would be much better) from where I can buy GALAXY S4 I9500 version with 650$-750$(max). (looking for 16GB version)
3) do you know where can I buy extended battery for S4 (at least 3,000 mah) and I hope it wont be needed special case or something.. im looking for a good battery but not too big.. I dont know if there are already good batteries, or its still early to ask
4) there is NO fm radio in S4?
Galaxy s4 development questions:
2) there will be AOKP based rom or good roms for s4 or its still too early to talk about it?
3) do you think there will be clean- android rom (without samsung stock design) PLUS full customization like s1-3 have ?
4) I wanna buy galaxy s4 soon but im afraid..there are great roms for S1 (like AOKP) .. i hope there will be stable+fast roms with a lot of features.. i wanna enjoy my phone and NOT like s1 (because good roms for s1 came 1 YEAR after i bought it.. hope it wont be the same with S4)
BOOST AND OVERCLOCKING:
5) i never realized that.. why would simple developers make "boost" to the SD CARD, RAM ect.. and not samsung?
my father says never overclock or something because Samsung does its best and if you boost something, it hurts something else.. is that true?
6) do you think there will be good and optimistic Overclocking+ boosting features for S4?
7) I heard a new linux kernel has been released .. will it be used in Android 4.3? do you think it will boost s4 performance?
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I see that no one answered you. Personaly, I have searched for 3 weeks the same information, and I don't find anything useful. I will try to answer you as much as I can:
1/Since no one has acquired the Korea version(or a very little group), we don't have much information on this model. And there isn't any information about the LTE in I9500. It is more a hardware question than a software question, I don't think a little rooting will change this.
2/I live in France. I bought mine on Ebay, since the guy has good feedback and has a lot of I9500 in stock. I first ordered on valuebasket.fr, but this scammer siteweb just make me waiting and waiting, 7-10 days before shipping, and 7-10 days for the shipping. So I just cancled. I also tried on Negri Electronics, but they are out of stock too. IFinally I go to ebay and find the seller who sells 530 euros (700 dollars) + 36 euros (45 dollars) fedex shipping fee. It will arrive early next week.
3/Dude, an extented battery will make your phone bigger for sure, there is no doubt. You cannot get both...
4/No fm radio, but who cares...On the one hand, almost nobody listen to radio nowadays, on the other hand, we can litsten to radio on a lot of siteweb if we want.
I cannot answer your developpment question. Hope these can help you.
AOKP and CM roms for the I9500 will be slow to arrive due to the non-open source nature of the Exynos chipset. This is one area where the I9505 holds the advantage with it's Snapdragon architecture as shown by the fact there is already a CM10.1 release available.
You will get them eventually though.
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ok thanks guys waiting for more people if they know..
and I dont get it:
5) what is the download speed for S4 (i9500) using 3G network? is it better than S3 although its still 3G and not 4G ?
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which model have the best proccessor i9500 or i9505 or i9502 or ..
darixtorento said:
ok thanks guys waiting for more people if they know..
and I dont get it:
5) what is the download speed for S4 (i9500) using 3G network? is it better than S3 although its still 3G and not 4G ?
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You can't really get an answer to that since the speed depends on your area.
ho ok.. in USA then..in California?
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I'm going to buy the S4 in a few weeks, and I can't decide which one to choose, especially after google released the one running vanilla android.
The international, i9500 exynos variant is the best one, I think, as its the international version and it might get more dev support.
on the other hand, the i9505 snapdragon variant is more reliable when it comes to dev support, as qualcomm does release the source code for its SD600 processor.
The google edition, as its going to support LTE, i think will be based on the i9505, as our dear Samsung very conveniently disable the LTE radios on its exynos processors.
So I am confused which one to buy.
If i get the i9505 (snapdragon), would i be able to flash an AOSP/AOKP rom perfectly, without any issues? Like will I be able to switch between AOSP and touchwiz without any hassle? and as the google edition will have the same chipset, would i be able to run rock solid and bug free aosp roms on it? (i honestly am more inclined towards touchwiz than aosp/aokp, but i dont mind switching for some time)
Also, I heard that i9500 has a better camera sensor, and has slightly better battery life than i9505. Is that true?
And qualcomm is going to release the snapdragon 800 within a couple of months, and i dont want to buy a phone for about $800 (nearly 50k in rupees here in India) only to realize that my latest gadget is now obsolete. I have already experienced that with my iPad 3 .
I'll be moving to USA in august for college, and honestly, i dont think LTE would be much use to me as 3G is more than enough for my needs. Plus LTE is a huge battery hog.
Also, as our dear Samsung does not release source code for exynos, more CM/AOKP/PA devs will move towards the i9505, and with that logic, the i9500 should get more support from devs working on TW based roms, like salesale and :indie: (I love neatrom on my S2).
So which one should I get?
P.S. Only the i9500 version is available in India, I'll have to get the i9505 from amazon if I end up buying that.
Just be careful what bands the phone supports. I think if you in the States it would be wise to get your carrier branded version
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Obagleyfreer said:
Just be careful what bands the phone supports. I think if you in the States it would be wise to get your carrier branded version
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as both the i9500 and i9505 are unlocked and unbranded, I think I'll go for either of them, as they will be compatible with all bands worldwide, not only US and India. Also, I prefer not to be tied to a network with a contract. (I'm more of a free bird )
But the question that remians in, which one should I go for? The i9500, the i9505, or the stock google edition?
The google edition will be based on i9505, so on one hand i'll recieve updates as soon as they are released, but would i be able to switch between AOSP roms and TW-based roms?
diwakarchopra said:
as both the i9500 and i9505 are unlocked and unbranded, I think I'll go for either of them, as they will be compatible with all bands worldwide, not only US and India. Also, I prefer not to be tied to a network with a contract. (I'm more of a free bird )
But the question that remians in, which one should I go for? The i9500, the i9505, or the stock google edition?
The google edition will be based on i9505, so on one hand i'll recieve updates as soon as they are released, but would i be able to switch between AOSP roms and TW-based roms?
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I just received my i9500 a week ago and I am lovin it! The phone is one heckuva beast and I have yet to run into any problems with it. Also a heads up, I've heard TouchWiz runs smoother on the i9500 than the i9505 as it is optimized for it better. The camera is definitely one of this phone's highlights and I can say for myself that I see the differences in camera sensors/image quality between the two.
Sorry for the late reply, I was busy with my high school finals!
And thank you all for your opinions, but im still pretty much confused on which one to go for. the i9500 or thr i9505?
As I said before, the variant needs to be GSM, and only two networks in the US offer GSM: AT&T and T-Mobile.
I'll be moving to West-Lafayette, Indiana in a couple of months, therefore, I need to know which one of the two (AT&T and TMobile) would support the GS4 properly. I dont care about 4G LTE as HSDPA+ is fast enough for me, but I've heard that some frequencies don't work properly on those networks, resulting in poor reception and slow data transfer speeds.
So, it would be really helpful is someone could point me in the right direction, should I go for i9500 or i9505? I'm a bit more inclined towards i9500.
Thanks in advance!
Go for the one with Samsung's modified version of Android. Don't wait for the Google Edition. The advantage with this one is as soon the Google Edition drops, there will be AOSP ROMs for the Samsung edition S4 but the vice-versa won't be true.
echenze said:
Go for the one with Samsung's modified version of Android. Don't wait for the Google Edition. The advantage with this one is as soon the Google Edition drops, there will be AOSP ROMs for the Samsung edition S4 but the vice-versa won't be true.
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That's all fine, but now I'm asking which one should I go for? the i9500 (Exynos) or the i9505 (snapdragon)? I'm not sure which one would work better in Lafayette Indiana on AT&T or T-Mobile (in terms of network coverage, 3G download/upload speeds etc)
Hi XDA & LG G2 Users,
I am planning for a ling time to get LG G2, so finally I make up my mind to get one. I am currently using Samsung S3 LTE 2GB RAM version and I switching because of the battery timing of the stock battery...as its only 2100 MHZ I guess so..whereas the LG G2 have 3100 Mhz i think.. which is like yehhhhh Now I have one concern that here in my country almost every G2 variant is available in market i.e. Korean F series, AT&T D801, to Sprint & T-Mobile and every variant is working on all cellular operators in my country... but there is one model that is LG G2 D802 which is international model.. Please suggest me which model should I but, because if I will buy korean so on that variant we cant use edge here.. but any body here can please confirm that which model have better dev support here.. which model have better and more ROMs as currently there are very less ROMs for my S3 LTE whereas for SGS3 9300 model there are alot of ROMs and mods. So some times I feel quite sad that why my model have not much ROMs as compare to S3 with 1GB RAM,
So, I don't want to be sad once I purchase G2 ... so guys please suggest me, which variant is good like, hassle free from installing modems to get the network work.. like most of the Korean variants we have to flash separate patch after installing ROMs or there will be many many issues regarding signals... I hope that you'll understand my concern what I've asked for...
Looking forward for your replies and suggestions...
I'm looking to buy a new phone but don't want/need the latest and greatest. I'm happy with the performance of my HTC One Mini, my work HTC One X/XL and my wife's S4 Active, all AT&T phones used in the U.S. My One Mini just suffered a horrible mountain bike crash which busted the screen up pretty bad, then too, my old eyes are tired of that tiny screen. I've also had bad luck with the built in battery and lack of SD card slot. So I was thinking S4 would be ok by me. Asking on the device forum I've gotten 50-11 answers some of which are conflicting answers. I was thinking the i9505 would be the right phone until someone piped up stating it wouldn't work on LTE here. From all I've seen it looks to me like that senior member don't know what they're talking about. Here's my criteria:
1. 4.5" to 5" screen
2. Unlocked/unlockable and can easily accept custom ROMs
3. Prefer to stick with a Kit Kat Rom as it gets along with my Do Not Disturb app better than Lollipop due to the built-in app on Lollipop
4. Removable battery
5. SD Slot
6. LTE service on AT&T/T-Mobile and Caribbean and South American Countries
7. Custom ROM must allow hotspot w/o AT&T controlling my use (I have unlimited internet on my plan and want to make use of it)
Background: I'm almost green having only installed a custom ROM on my work phone an HTC One X/XL from AT&T. Apparently it's one of the harder phones to unlock the bootloader and permanent Root is impossible I think. I 1st installed CM12.1 on the HTC ONE X and ran into conflicts and buggy operations. After a few weeks of testing I backed it up, wiped it and installed CM11 which I truly like. No experience or much understanding of KNOX, ODIN or ODEX. I only read bits and pieces on those while trying to figure out which S4 variant will fit my need. Lastly, were can I get a new phone off contract? Anybody purchased from www.Cell2Get.com? I was about to buy this phone prior to the member claiming it wouldn't work on AT&T.
http://www.cell2get.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-i9505-16gb-unlocked-gsm-android-cell-phone-p-5122.html
IRBent said:
I'm looking to buy a new phone but don't want/need the latest and greatest. I'm happy with the performance of my HTC One Mini, my work HTC One X/XL and my wife's S4 Active, all AT&T phones used in the U.S. My One Mini just suffered a horrible mountain bike crash which busted the screen up pretty bad, then too, my old eyes are tired of that tiny screen. I've also had bad luck with the built in battery and lack of SD card slot. So I was thinking S4 would be ok by me. Asking on the device forum I've gotten 50-11 answers some of which are conflicting answers. I was thinking the i9505 would be the right phone until someone piped up stating it wouldn't work on LTE here. From all I've seen it looks to me like that senior member don't know what they're talking about. Here's my criteria:
1. 4.5" to 5" screen
2. Unlocked/unlockable and can easily accept custom ROMs
3. Prefer to stick with a Kit Kat Rom as it gets along with my Do Not Disturb app better than Lollipop due to the built-in app on Lollipop
4. Removable battery
5. SD Slot
6. LTE service on AT&T/T-Mobile and Caribbean and South American Countries
7. Custom ROM must allow hotspot w/o AT&T controlling my use (I have unlimited internet on my plan and want to make use of it)
Background: I'm almost green having only installed a custom ROM on my work phone an HTC One X/XL from AT&T. Apparently it's one of the harder phones to unlock the bootloader and permanent Root is impossible I think. I 1st installed CM12.1 on the HTC ONE X and ran into conflicts and buggy operations. After a few weeks of testing I backed it up, wiped it and installed CM11 which I truly like. No experience or much understanding of KNOX, ODIN or ODEX. I only read bits and pieces on those while trying to figure out which S4 variant will fit my need. Lastly, were can I get a new phone off contract? Anybody purchased from www.Cell2Get.com? I was about to buy this phone prior to the member claiming it wouldn't work on AT&T.
http://www.cell2get.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-i9505-16gb-unlocked-gsm-android-cell-phone-p-5122.html
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- AT&T has it's own variant of the S4. It's called the "SGH-I337".
- The I9505 will not work with LTE on the AT&T network. It support different bands. So the member was correct. You can see it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4#Model_variants
- The "SGH-I337" has a locked bootloader and cannot be unlocked. Only some old devices will have an unlocked bootloader because they never upgraded their software. Thus you cannot use custom roms like CM.
Lennyz1988 said:
- AT&T has it's own variant of the S4. It's called the "SGH-I337".
- The I9505 will not work with LTE on the AT&T network. It support different bands. So the member was correct. You can see it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4#Model_variants
- The "SGH-I337" has a locked bootloader and cannot be unlocked. Only some old devices will have an unlocked bootloader because they never upgraded their software. Thus you cannot use custom roms like CM.
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So is the GT-I9505G the preferred phone to have and to mod and if so, can I buy new one without getting a fake?
"Google Play Edition
At the Google I/O 2013 keynote, Samsung and Google revealed that an edition of the U.S. S4 would be released on June 26, 2013 through Google Play, initially featuring stock Android 4.2.2, later updated to 4.4.4, with Samsung provided updates; it has an unlockable bootloader (similar to Nexus devices) and supports LTE on AT&T and T-Mobile's networks. The model number is GT-I9505G."
I'm likely "that member", because I have an I9505 (not I9505G) running on Straight Talk, which is a US MVNO that rents bandwidth from all the major US carriers. The I9505 will not work on LTE here in the US because the LTE frequencies used worldwide (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20) are not the frequencies used by the carriers here in the US. The I9505G is a different story. It has the LTE frequencies needed to work here in the US, and does not have Touchwiz as it uses stock Android.
You can't purchase one new because they've been discontinued for some time now. You may want to check out Swappa (link at the top of the page) and see if they have a used one you can purchase.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I'm likely "that member", because I have an I9505 (not I9505G) running on Straight Talk, which is a US MVNO that rents bandwidth from all the major US carriers. The I9505 will not work on LTE here in the US because the LTE frequencies used worldwide (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20) are not the frequencies used by the carriers here in the US. The I9505G is a different story. It has the LTE frequencies needed to work here in the US, and does not have Touchwiz as it uses stock Android.
You can't purchase one new because they've been discontinued for some time now. You may want to check out Swappa (link at the top of the page) and see if they have a used one you can purchase.
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Really good and interesting reply. Being new to this stuff and having not kept up with cellphone technology, some of the things you guys just know, I'm having to try to understand. At first I assumed all 9505's were the same, but apparently I was wrong there. Then I also thought that since most cellphone review sites showed a plethora of Freq. and bands, with at least on or two being those that AT&T and most other North American GSM carriers use, I assume that meant I could get that model of phone. little did I know that those two lines of freqs and bands were for different versions of that same model, one for here and being a carrier locked phone and the other line being and international phone without the proper band for use here. So now after learning that difference it appears to me that there may be now way possible to purchase a new S4 and turn it into a custom ROM phone. So if I understand you and the carrier stuff correctly, you're using a plain 9505 and piggybacking off AT&T by way of StraightTalk like so many of us do. However since your phone is an international version you don't have LTE, is that right? One last thing I've yet to read or learn about but saw when I was putting CM11 and 12.1 on my HTC One X/XL (AT&T), I kept seeing stuff about "the radio". The way it read made me think they were NOT talking about an FM radio for music, but the freqs the phone itself uses. I think I recall them flashing "radios" which I assume they meant they were able to change the original freqs/bands that the model came with to one more useful here. Is that something that truly exists and can be done even on an S4 variant? My assumption is that it CANNOT be done or else you'd have done so already on your i9505.
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So if I understand you and the carrier stuff correctly, you're using a plain 9505 and piggybacking off AT&T by way of StraightTalk like so many of us do. However since your phone is an international version you don't have LTE, is that right?
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Correct.
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My assumption is that it CANNOT be done or else you'd have done so already on your i9505.
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Again correct. With Samsung, their firmware loading software, Odin, actually checks and makes sure the parts of the firmware match the model of the S4 connected to the PC. If they don't match, Odin will instantly fail. The only way to try and enable LTE on the I9505 is to delve into the low-level firmware for the LTE chip and attempt to rewrite it so it can see the added frequencies. However, I don't recommend it. Not only is it a very intricate process compared to something like rooting, it's also quite possible that you could render the LTE chip non-functional. I tried it, and nearly lost the ability to use my phone at all due to having my phone's SIM lock restored.
If you do decide to get an S4, an I9505G is likely your best bet. Not only does it have the AT&T frequencies, it's also got an unlocked bootloader (unlike the AT&T model) and is also carrier unlocked right out of the box. That last means you can use it on T-Mobile and carriers which use GSM SIM cards. Other choices would be the T-Mobile S4 (SGH-M919) or the North American S4 (SGH-I337M). All these phones include the AT&T frequencies and also have an unlocked bootloader so customization is easier.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If you do decide to get an S4, an I9505G is likely your best bet. Not only does it have the AT&T frequencies, it's also got an unlocked bootloader (unlike the AT&T model) and is also carrier unlocked right out of the box. That last means you can use it on T-Mobile and carriers which use GSM SIM cards. Other choices would be the T-Mobile S4 (SGH-M919) or the North American S4 (SGH-I337M). All these phones include the AT&T frequencies and also have an unlocked bootloader so customization is easier.
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I thank you so much sir. This answer is direct and explains exactly what I wanted to know. I only wish it were possible to purchase one of those models new so I could ensure years of use void of glitches due to possible abuse by the previous owner. If I can't find one of the above models I will probably be looking for some other make/model, preferably a new phone not used. Do you know if it's possible to get a new phone that meets the criteria below?
1. Unlocked bootloader or one that can be unlocked
2. Removable battery
3. 4.7" - 5" screen
4. SD card
5. Capable of being used as a hotspot ( I have unlimited internet but need to thwart AT&T from controlling my use)
6. Rootable and custom ROM capable
7. Can be used in U.S, South America and Caribbean (I think most of those places all use the same freqs/bands as U.S.)
That is why on Swappa you search for the ones labeled Mint or New. My device was Mint off Swappa, and the main reasons were that it was always in a case, and had a tempered glass screen protector installed.
For a current flagship-level device, looking at your laundry list, I believe you need to adjust your expectations. Not because of the software, but because of the hardware. LG is perhaps the only manufacturer still offering both removable batteries and MicroSD card slots, but their flagship device has a larger screen than you want. Motorola doesn't have removable batteries. Google provides neither, just like Samsung. Sony is an unknown, but their devices are not common here in the US.
Your best option is to go with a larger screen size and get an LG G4. If you absolutely MUST have the smaller screen, then you want a used Galaxy S4 or S5, so long as they aren't AT&T devices.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
For a current flagship-level device, looking at your laundry list, I believe you need to adjust your expectations. Not because of the software, but because of the hardware. LG is perhaps the only manufacturer still offering both removable batteries and MicroSD card slots, but their flagship device has a larger screen than you want. Motorola doesn't have removable batteries. Google provides neither, just like Samsung. Sony is an unknown, but their devices are not common here in the US.
Your best option is to go with a larger screen size and get an LG G4. If you absolutely MUST have the smaller screen, then you want a used Galaxy S4 or S5, so long as they aren't AT&T devices.
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I guess I should have made it clear too that flagships, latest and greatest wasn't necessary. I'm happy with the speeds my older HTC ONE X and HTC ONE Mini supply. But closing in on 50 years old, my eyes and the Mini's screen don't get along so well anymore.
If you have bad eyesight, a bigger screen can be a godsend.
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If you have bad eyesight, a bigger screen can be a godsend.
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Exactly. I need a bigger screen but a smaller phone because my hands can't reach around my HTC ONE Mini. Sometimes it sucks being 5'4". LOL
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Exactly. I need a bigger screen but a smaller phone because my hands can't reach around my HTC ONE Mini. Sometimes it sucks being 5'4". LOL
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I would not recommend someone buying the S4 anymore. It was and still is a great phone, but newer models are just way better. The battery life is to short with the standard battery.
Based on your preferences I would recommend one of the following:
- LG Nexus 5
- Oneplus one
- Motorola X Play
But then again, maybe they are to big for you. The LG is the smallest but doesn't have a sd slot.
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Based on your preferences I would recommend one of the following:
- LG Nexus 5
- Oneplus one
- Motorola X Play
But then again, maybe they are to big for you. The LG is the smallest but doesn't have a sd slot.
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Amazing discovery by me just now. Yes, I've seen folks here talk about the brand OnePlus but I didn't know who or what OnePlus was until just now. I used to keep up with all things electronics related, reading review sites and forums like this. 10 years ago or so a DVD manufacturer named OPPO was the talk. Excellent brand but unheard of. I just learned that OnePlus is a company started by an OPPO founder. I'm so out of the loop.
Hi guys. I was thinking of buying a G2 for myself. Do you think it is a good idea considering that it is 2016?! Is it a fast phone? To give you an idea of "fast", I checked my friends Nexus 5 and if the G2 is as quick as that, I am more than satisfied. Also, looks like Android 5.1 is not coming to G2 anymore, so in case I buy it, do you recommend upgrading to 5.0.2 or I just stick to 4.4.4?
Thanks everybody!
well ,I still use g2 ,right now with cloudyg2 3.3 and is amazing,new interface and etc ,blazing fast (no bugs at all,at least for me ) and i'm gonna stick with it till july -aug and I will buy g4/g5
alecore said:
well ,I still use g2 ,right now with cloudyg2 3.3 and is amazing,new interface and etc ,blazing fast (no bugs at all,at least for me ) and i'm gonna stick with it till july -aug and I will buy g4/g5
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Thanks alecore! Although I am not familiar with the CloudyG2, but I assume it is a custom ROM. What about the original (stock?) ROM? What if I keep the original software? Do you have any idea how fast is the G2 with that one?
this question depends on how much you planning to spend on a new G2 ! still G2 is a great option but it will not support marshmallow or may be it won't even get the 5.1 . and Cloudy support is dead as developer is no longer supporting it . but I've heard lots of good things about the new CheloZTeam rom..
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this question depends on how much you planning to spend on a new G2 ! still G2 is a great option but it will not support marshmallow or may be it won't even get the 5.1 . and Cloudy support is dead as developer is no longer supporting it . but I've heard lots of good things about the new CheloZTeam rom..
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I guess I can buy it for $150. Do you know f the 5.0.2 version is worth upgrading to? I heard it is buggy for some people and reduces the battery life drastically.
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I guess I can buy it for $150. Do you know f the 5.0.2 version is worth upgrading to? I heard it is buggy for some people and reduces the battery life drastically.
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I noticed battery life was mediocre in 5.0.2 compared to 4.4.2, including stand-by time. but if you flash a stable aosp rom like aicp, mokee, you'll get amazing battery life compared to stock 5.0.2.
mmutoo said:
Thanks alecore! Although I am not familiar with the CloudyG2, but I assume it is a custom ROM. What about the original (stock?) ROM? What if I keep the original software? Do you have any idea how fast is the G2 with that one?
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been on stock for 1 year and half ,KitKat was awesome ,and when lollipop came out it was even more awesome (because of new interface/customization/etc)and I had no problems at all ,no lag ,no restarts or something else ,meanwhile I decided to change the look a little more (got bored of lollipop and waiting for 5.1.1 or marshmallow it was endless) and I went to root the phone for cloudyg2 ,because I didn't wanted to change the phone ,there's no point ,unless you want to go for a phone from 2015 to.
EDIT : and about battery,i had 1 day and few hours with medium use (4-5 hours per day) and for a easy use (1-2h/3h per day) almost 3-4 days
Thanks appsmarsterx and alecore! I think I would stick to KitKat if I buy it. I am yet to decide Do you guys know if I can use the D801 model in europe? Here are the frequencies for it:
LG G2 D801:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G: UMTS 1700/2100 (B4), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
4G: LTE 700 (B17), LTE 1700/2100 (B4), LTE 1900 (B2)
Surprisingly, I can buy D801 much cheaper than D802!
Think about some Chinese phones for that money, you can have meizu or xiaomi, they will be supported for some time. G2 is nice phone and it surpasses those phones in benchmarks but support is dead.
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Think about some Chinese phones for that money, you can have meizu or xiaomi, they will be supported for some time. G2 is nice phone and it surpasses those phones in benchmarks but support is dead.
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I thought about that. But my experience with some Lenovo phones was that they perform much lower than their spec on paper! I don't know why.
Official support may be at an end but we still have CM based ROMs including MM.
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I think the comparison is HTC M8 which will have marshmallow and better speakers, vs the G2 which will have a better camera. Either one at $150 or less is probably pretty good
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mmutoo said:
Thanks appsmarsterx and alecore! I think I would stick to KitKat if I buy it. I am yet to decide Do you guys know if I can use the D801 model in europe? Here are the frequencies for it:
LG G2 D801:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G: UMTS 1700/2100 (B4), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
4G: LTE 700 (B17), LTE 1700/2100 (B4), LTE 1900 (B2)
Surprisingly, I can buy D801 much cheaper than D802!
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as far as I know most of the Europe, Asian mobile isps use lte band 3 (1800mhz).. if your mobile isp is also using lte band 3, you won't be able to use 4g with d801. (but 3g/hspa+ should work fine. )
make sure you contact your mobile isp and get informed about the lte frequently that they're using..
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as far as I know most of the Europe, Asian mobile isps use lte band 3 (1800mhz).. if your mobile isp is also using lte band 3, you won't be able to use 4g with d801. (but 3g/hspa+ should work fine. )
make sure you contact your mobile isp and get informed about the lte frequently that they're using..
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Thanks! I will check with them.
mmutoo said:
Hi guys. I was thinking of buying a G2 for myself. Do you think it is a good idea considering that it is 2016?! Is it a fast phone? To give you an idea of "fast", I checked my friends Nexus 5 and if the G2 is as quick as that, I am more than satisfied. Also, looks like Android 5.1 is not coming to G2 anymore, so in case I buy it, do you recommend upgrading to 5.0.2 or I just stick to 4.4.4?
Thanks everybody!
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no i woudlnt suggest you to get this one in 2016, the camera quality has considerably improved now a days in smartphones and since this is a 2013 manufactured smartphones, its aged enough, id suggest a nexus 6 ull get a 32gb for a similar price and youll be sure to get updates for the next 2-3 years (official/unofficial ) whats more important is android version, as we can see, feature set will be reduced anyways with aosp roms on the g2, might as well get a nexus 6 if youve got the money get the 6p , totally worth it
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no i woudlnt suggest you to get this one in 2016, the camera quality has considerably improved now a days in smartphones and since this is a 2013 manufactured smartphones, its aged enough, id suggest a nexus 6 ull get a 32gb for a similar price and youll be sure to get updates for the next 2-3 years (official/unofficial ) whats more important is android version, as we can see, feature set will be reduced anyways with aosp roms on the g2, might as well get a nexus 6 if youve got the money get the 6p , totally worth it
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You are right about the updates and also I am a fan of pure android which is available on Nexus devices, however, right now the Nexus 6 is out of my budget, and the 5 has a weaker battery and camera than the G2.
BTW guys, I was thinking f sticking to KitKat if I buy it. but now that I have seen some reviews, looks like lollipop is closer to what I want the G2 to be. especially changing the recent apps button from long pressing home button to a dedicated button. Is android 5 buggy on G2?
@alecore: You said you had 5 on your G2 for a while. Was it performing well? In terms of speed and especially battery life I mean.
Recently my G2's display shattered. The cost of new display was close to that of phone itself. So I ordered D801 from eBay and kept my broken G2 aside. I have been suggesting my friends to go with G2 if they are looking for a budget phone. In comparison to Moto G 3rd Gen, G2 is available for lesser cost. It's a worthy investment. I am using it on Kitkat and had no issues. Battery and camera can still challenge today's mid-range smartphones so I highly recommend going with G2.
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You are right about the updates and also I am a fan of pure android which is available on Nexus devices, however, right now the Nexus 6 is out of my budget, and the 5 has a weaker battery and camera than the G2.
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nexus 6 is almost same as or even cheaper than the G2 now , motorola nexus 6 i mean. worth it for this amount
200$.. totally worth it. brillinat batterylife on it too
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unlo...e=UTF8&qid=1453703617&sr=1-1&keywords=nexus+6
i'll strongly suggest you get this phone.
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BTW guys, I was thinking f sticking to KitKat if I buy it. but now that I have seen some reviews, looks like lollipop is closer to what I want the G2 to be. especially changing the recent apps button from long pressing home button to a dedicated button. Is android 5 buggy on G2?
@alecore: You said you had 5 on your G2 for a while. Was it performing well? In terms of speed and especially battery life I mean.
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Battery it depends, on kernel and settings, i get SOT just whats app a few pics taken. like the most ive got it its 7hours and 32 mins. agressavely debloated. stock rom. on the g4 4uix i get 7 hours or nearly seven hours of screen on time.
jus just need to managed and clear recents and cache. and itll be fine. but on kernel settings i have intellimn governor. work queue. realxed memory ram setting. those gives more battery but suffers performance. but am on with it.