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Considering sending my Galaxy back, need some advices...

Hi there,
got my GalaxyS for 3 days now, and been owning a Desire for 2.5 months.
I was perfectly happy with my Desire, the reason I still ordered the Galaxy was because all the talks about S-Amoled got me really excited, and the larger screen was too tempting because I'm an avid reader.
After 3 days, I must admit my feelings are a little mixed:
On the one hand, the screen of Galaxy IS gorgeous, color/contrast/sunlight readability all top. And the more app storage (which pained me a lot on the Desire) is also extremely welcome.
But, on the other hand, there are still things Desire does better - to my dismay, the text display on the Galaxy seems to be worse than on Desire?! At same level of zoom, Galaxy displays the fonts more pixelated, but this is only visible when the font is small, many other people seem to share this sentiment.
And also, even the lowest brightness setting on the Galaxy is too bright for me in the dark?! I do a lot of reading at night in bed, the lowest setting on Desire has a tinted color, but doesn't hurt my eyes. Galaxy on the other hand, I can't really stare at it for long without my eyes tiring...
So right now I'm really a bit unsure... Is there any chance getting software solution to set the brightness lower than low?;-) Also, would the display quality of small fonts improve with newer system/software, whatever?
If not, then I'm afraid I'll just stick to my Desire and send the Galaxy back
Thanks for any thoughts!
Billy

Would never recommend an amoled screen to a person who likes to use the device as an e-book reader(until they get rid of the pentile submatrix). You should get a Droid or HD2 if you want a decent display.
The reason why the pixels appear larger on the SGS is simply because of the fact that they are.
If you found the Desire to better suit your needs then I'd recommend you go back to it.

Just curious, how does the iPhone 4 fair in term of text display? Not that I'm considering getting THAT

I would recommend to keep Samsung Galaxy S for phone and very mobile use and then to wait and buy Samsung TAPE for reading and other stuff.

n3p3nth3 said:
Just curious, how does the iPhone 4 fair in term of text display? Not that I'm considering getting THAT
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The iPhone 4 display is geared towards text, it has a high pixel density as a result of high-res/small screen size and a regular grid pixel layout.
The Samsung screen is more targeted to graphics & video with faster refresh, massive contrast, larger display, oh and its 16:9 wide screen too

Thanks guys for the info and advices, guess in the end I'll just toss a coin to decide

i personally like s-amoled for one reason
it doesn't consume as much power. it matters when your screen is 4.0 inches

Seems there is no 'perfect' phone...
I've been strongly expecting to purchase the SGS (Captivate actually). But I've also been interested in using it as a reader some.
I've been reading the posts about Pentile topics.
Also I really want a phone that will be very viewable in sunlight.
I've been thinking the new MOTO X may be nice...but then I'd have to change carriers.
[SIGH] [/SIGH]

ewingr said:
I've been strongly expecting to purchase the SGS (Captivate actually). But I've also been interested in using it as a reader some.
I've been reading the posts about Pentile topics.
Also I really want a phone that will be very viewable in sunlight.
I've been thinking the new MOTO X may be nice...but then I'd have to change carriers.
[SIGH] [/SIGH]
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The sgs is great to use in direct sunlight, even better than my hd2 was.
It also does pretty well when it comes to ebook reading as long as you don't zoom out too much(I'd only recommend it for light reading).

Galaxy S II I9100 - Just got mine! - mini review

Ok -I just got my Galaxy S II here in the uk from phones4u (wouldn't really recommend them but they had it early. My previous Galaxy S which I had massive GPS problems with over almost every ROM and radio combination is eventually going on eBay.
I thought others here might be interested in the SII
Initial impressions are:
Wow - this thing is blazingly and surprisingly fast. I've seen reviews that say it's fast but when you use it - it simply refuses to slow down anywhere in the UI or apps. The Market for example is crazy fast and installing apps is a breeze.
TouchWiz 4 is really a huge improvement and the small changes here and there along with the speed mentioned abive make it a real pleasure to use. Can't as of yet replace the Messaging app link to GoSMS (my personal choice) - but maybe will be able to when root becomes available.
Now - a little background information: I'm very sensitive to colour and brightness uniformity variations and I have to say that over the past few years have had some issues with monitors, a Samsung TV and an iPhone 4 I sent back for problems I know others simply cannot see or simply don't consider "problems". I do - and for that reason I was astonished and delighted by the Super Amoled screen in my GPS defying Galaxy S. I literally love(d) that screen and it was crisp, sharp, large and beautiful with absolutely no colour shift or backlight issues (there isn't one!).
So when I found out that the Galaxy SII had a Super Amoled+ screen I was dribbling with anticipation.
When I turned on my brand-shiny-new Galaxy SII this afternoon however I noticed something I'd seen while toying with the first few SII's I'd handled in the phones4u shops but thought nothing of - the screen is slightly "muddy" although vibrant and there is a definite variation in either brightness or colour shift across the screen from top to bottom - especially visible (almost only visible) on solid colour backgrounds in apps and also Gmail. In know and will state in anticipation that most others wouldn't notice this. Having had my Galaxy S though which had a screen I consider virtually perfect - I was a bit surprised to find that this new SuperAmoled+ screen had a completely different colour temperature and exhibited what looked like colour shift from top to bottom. I was also very surprised that the screen did NOT look as sharp as the screen on my original Galaxy S because these Samoled+ screens are meant to be "sharper". I wonder what the pixel density is compared to the Samoled screens?
Also, when you tilt the phone, the colour of the screen shifts a lot more than the original Galaxy S. Hmmmm......
Anyway - after having just paid around (I am crazy I know) £500 for this phone I feel a little sick.
I LOVE the speed. I love the interface. I know and love Android. I'm surprised by the screen however.
Just thought I'd give everyone a heads-up and HIGHLY recommend you go and have a look at one first before, say, buying online if you are also sensitive to screen uniformity or if you prefer the more "blue" white balance of the original Samoled screens as opposed to a more "yellow" tint - which this SGSII has.
I'm hoping that maybe it will "warm up" and/or "settle in" but I'm not too sure about that. I've tried turning off "auto brightness" and that definitely makes the screen brighter - as you'd imagine - but doesn't seem to help with my issues described above.
Now - onto something else entirely - GPS:
I've only tested this VERY quickly and indoors but the GPS seems to work better than the oroginal SGS. Will do further testing because I use Google Navigation quite a lot but so far I'm hopeful this is now fully resolved. GPS crappyness was one of the main reasons I upgraded and the main lure of this phone was the Samoled+ screen, so I really don't know what I'm gonna do.
The screen issues are so subjective I'm guessing the shop wouldn't consider it a "fault" and so I'd have a fight on my hands with that one.
I think I'll wait a little to see what happens - I think my eyes would get used to the colour balance being slightly warmer but the slight blurriness of the icons/screen and the slightly lighter bottom half (very slight) will probably stay as they are and are very noticeable to me.
Anyway - hope that was of some interest to someone. Any questions - just ask and I'll do my best to answer.

Nice little roundup, glad you're pleased with it on the whole.
Is there any way you could get an image or two of both handsets side by side, comparing the viewing angles and colour shift for potential buyers?
There have been quite a few tweaks relating to the screen in custom SGS kernels, were you running stock or something like speedmod on the SGS?

You are very wicked boy now i want .
jje

Congrats alsheron
Hope ya will enjoy your new toy

Any hands-on pics? I know i can easily find it on google but... you know, its kinda different when pics are taken by a non-gadget bloggers
/nik on MIUI

Sorry guys - the screen issues and finding out that £399 is the price on O2 payg (i'm on o2 contract) has made me feel a bit more sick.
I'm attempting to take it back to phones4u tomorrow. I already called and can tell it's going to be trouble. They have to call "head office" apparently. Thank God I can show my existing SGS next to the new SGSII so that they can clearly see the difference. I consider the issues I described a fault of the first batch and being able to see the difference easily should help me but I've not got a good feeling about phones4u. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll surprise me.
Wish me luck! -> Really need all your goodwill

You should post a track from my tracks with both device to see how GPS compare

alsheron said:
Sorry guys - the screen issues and finding out that £399 is the price on O2 payg (i'm on o2 contract) has made me feel a bit more sick.
I'm attempting to take it back to phones4u tomorrow. I already called and can tell it's going to be trouble. They have to call "head office" apparently. Thank God I can show my existing SGS next to the new SGSII so that they can clearly see the difference. I consider the issues I described a fault of the first batch and being able to see the difference easily should help me but I've not got a good feeling about phones4u. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll surprise me.
Wish me luck! -> Really need all your goodwill
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I hope you have 2.3.3 on your SGS to compare it to your SGS2, as 2.3.3 will warm up any screen (google wanted this, not samsung). If you are compareing 2.2 or 2.2.1 with your new SGS2 then that is not a fare comparison of the screen and its color!

The Engadget review posted a few hours ago said there's an app or setting that lets you change the screen's colour temperature. In fact, they say pretty much the opposite to what you've said about the screen.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
Perhaps you have a faulty one.

Congrats man. And good luck!
Can't wait to get my hands on this new Galaxy.
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I want this phone SOOO bad :/ I literally love it.

Can you post the email apk please
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How does the samoled + perform in sunlight ? Better than samoled ?

Can you please post email.apk and Movie Maker apk.
I have been looking for that video editing software but couldn't find it anywhere. I will appreciate it if you do it. Thanks

wow. super envy.
no budget for a new phone this year so i'm stuck with the i9000.

me too so eager to have my hand on this phone....i am going to see and hold it first once they available here and decide if it is too big for me or not......btw this phone realy drive me crazy and hoping to change it with my SGS...btw I dont have any problem with my SGS right now even with the GPS.....

how is the battery life?

kelvs said:
wow. super envy.
no budget for a new phone this year so i'm stuck with the i9000.
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Well the SGS I is still a very nice and capable phone. You probably won't regret holding onto this one when the SGS III comes out.

matlear said:
Can you post the email apk please
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Here, I've pulled everything from "/system": [URL=http://hotfile.com/dl/116132455/f24648b/System.zip.html]http://hotfile.com/dl/116132455/f24648b/System.zip.html[/URL]

Davith said:
Well the SGS I is still a very nice and capable phone. You probably won't regret holding onto this one when the SGS III comes out.
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Any updates regarding s3?
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Just moved over from an S3 - Some help needed please

Hey guys, I've just moved over from an S3 and have some questions. Any help is appreciated.
1. With a higher PPI, I assumed the screen would be more clearer. The colors are washed and the picture quality is not as good as the S3. What is better is text. It seems sharper, but pictures looked washed and not as good as the S3. I've noticed a thread with changing the RGB values, and have tried to the app to change the values, but I it is still not as good as the S3. Can anything be done to resolve this?
2. Wireless Charging - i want to be able to do this, but I have seen the Nokia chargers are a little hit and miss. Which ones work 100%?
3. High battery drain. Which is the best kernel to use with AOKP?
Many thanks for your help guys

1. Use faux kernel with faux app
2. qi chargers other than nokia
3. faux kernel and his app + his values
4. use q and a thread

Once you've used nexus for a while, the s3 screen will look cartoon and awful seriously. Put a really good HD colourful background pic on homescren and use phone for a few weeks and you'll never ever go back to amoled screens unless you really really love cartoons lol.
As for battery drain, this will improve but faux kernels are excellent

biffsmash said:
Once you've used nexus for a while, the s3 screen will look cartoon and awful seriously. Put a really good HD colourful background pic on homescren and use phone for a few weeks and you'll never ever go back to amoled screens unless you really really love cartoons lol.
As for battery drain, this will improve but faux kernels are excellent
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I've installed the faux kernel so will see how it goes
Just took a picture of the same image with an S3 and the N4 and the S3 looks so much better.

winwiz said:
I've installed the faux kernel so will see how it goes
Just took a picture of the same image with an S3 and the N4 and the S3 looks so much better.
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To be honest, I m in the same situation as you.
The screen, I think we ll get used to it, my wife still got her S3, and it is not natural in another way . But agreed that the screen is "pale".
The worst is the battery, as soon as the screen is used, the drain is just so huge....
BUT
The SGS3 is no new phone, remember, so I m sure the N4 will get better in the battery front.
The possibilities of developpement fun will make up for it, because after all, that s why we are here on XDA, right?

kipue said:
To be honest, I m in the same situation as you.
The screen, I think we ll get used to it, my wife still got her S3, and it is not natural in another way . But agreed that the screen is "pale".
The worst is the battery, as soon as the screen is used, the drain is just so huge....
BUT
The SGS3 is no new phone, remember, so I m sure the N4 will get better in the battery front.
The possibilities of developpement fun will make up for it, because after all, that s why we are here on XDA, right?
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I was happier when I had my S3, as there was plenty of development
but since I upgraded to the S3 LTE, the development was limited and I got frustrated. Also my S3 LTE kept dropping reception and it was getting really annoying so I got rid of it

The AMOLED screen on the S3 is seriously a joke. Colors are over saturated and as someone else already said, it looks cartoonish.
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I can see the appeal in the AMOLED screens Samsung uses. They do produce some vibrant colors. Comparing my old Captivate (SGS1) to my Nexus 4 is even a pretty stark difference. Honestly, though, I have come to prefer the less saturated look on the N4.

I came from the S3, the only things I really miss are the camera and the battery.
The camera is amazing on the S3, the pictures were always much sharper than the pictures taken with the N4, the N4 does take VERY nice pictures with ample light.
The battery on the S3 seemed to be a lot better, and drain much slower...I'm REALLY hoping that this gets fixed with 4.2.2....
After using the N4 since its initial release looking at the S3 screen is...bad (IMO), I LOVED the S3, but the screen on the N4 is a lot brighter, clearer and seems to have more natural colors.

For kernel, I recommend the latest faux beta kernel, has amazing battery life for me and has also been relatively stable. It has one issue for me, sometimes the phone just doesn't wake up after I turned off the screen, but that's only in rare cases and really no big deal.
You should also use the faux app from the Play Store, it's a bit expensive imo but it's worth it since you can do all kinds of stuff with it from undervolting to setting the screen calibration.
Speaking of screen calibration: The stock one is really not that goot, especially the whites and overall colours on lower brightness looked a bit weird to me sometimes. But I changed the calibration a bit and it looks awesome and just "true" (again, to me personally). I'll post my calibration here, maybe you can try it. I took it from a spreadsheet where it said it would be calibrated just like a MacBook Pro screen which is supposed to be perfectly calibrated:
Red 255, Green 255, Blue 255. Gamma Amp0: Red 19, Green 21, Blue 24. Gamma Amp1: Red 1, Green 2, Blue 3.
I hope it helps.

Like some previous comments stated, the amoled screens are OVER saturated to the max.
As far as the battery life, I would look into juicedefender. Works great for me.

My Note 2's screen looks much more similar to my Nexus 4's screen when screen mode is set to "Natural." Does the S3 have a similar setting to make the AMOLED vibrancy less jarring?

cartoons
Hey just in case you do like cartoons, see how these look;
http://www.animewapers.com/hd-anime-wallpapers-directory/
As for battery, wait 'til the honeymoon is over. It lasts plenty. Unless you have NOW enabled.

I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?

I've been a GS3 user from release date. I was on AOKP for the longest that I wanted to try the real deal. I just got my Nexus 4 two days ago and I love everything about it except the camera. GS3 camera wins hand down. The screen on the Nexus 4 is amazing and you won't want to look at your Samsung anymore.
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aaron.bufc said:
I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
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The phones are equally good in my opinion. If you like touch wiz, stay with the s3. If you like stock android, want more Dev support, and don't want to put up with Samsung's slow updates then go with the nexus. I personally prefer my nexus because I want the updates from Google and not the OEM's, and I'm a flashaholic.
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aaron.bufc said:
I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
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Well the Nexus 4 is a lot faster and the screen doesn't look so weird like the S3. The N4 feels a little different in the hand - much better build quality on the N4 but the tapered edges of the S3 are a little nicer on the hand. You will definitely like the N4, it feels like quality kit in your hand and performance is excellent.
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I got my N4 2 days ago. Before that I owned an S3. When I first looked at the N4's screen, it was very strange, it seemed pale to me, and I missed the accurate blacks from Amoled. But after one day I got used to it, and began to like it more and more. It's very sharp, and clean. The build quality is much better, and more solid than the S3.Imo it is beautiful with its minimal design.
The peformance is better, not a single app redraw or anything... Battery... For me it lasts from morning 7 till I arrive at home at 7 pm, and still has some energy in it (approx. 20%). On the way to work I listen to music and read forums for 1 hour, and I repeat this on the way home too. During the work, I send a few emails, some facebook, and every service is on. I don't think it would be so bad... Day by day I like my N4 more and more.

Should we buy or wait s4 due to screen or other issues?

I want to know from expert guys who have bought S4 or those who have expert ideas about screen smearing or other issues with S4, kindly advise me should we buy S4 right now or should we wait, or should we consider iPhone5 which does it all in good way but just smaller display or even HTC One?
Advice required?

How can you even consider iPhone 5 is beyond me...
Wait to see if the problems get fixed I guess. HTC One is the next best thing.

@usmanxhmed you can choose whatever you prefer. People here will bash you if you mention any iOS devices. But tbh I just switched to S4 and currently having yellow tint issues .. I believe my iPhone 4S's display is brighter and clearer than my current S4, only that it's smaller. You may want to wait.

it's not bashing about ios. iphone 5 is rubbish. even galaxy s3 is better. how could someone consider iphone 5 to galaxy s4. it's beyond my imagination.

I'm loving my S4, I can't see what everyone is moaning about, inventing all of these 'issues' with it! Just set your phone up properly and off you go.
Seriously, it's the best phone I've ever had. My mate has an iPhone, I was showing off my S4 today and it does impress.
The quality of the screen is the first thing you notice, just playing the helicopter video which is on the phone does a good job when showing off, then demonstrate hovering over text messages and emails, then gesture scroll on the browser, it can't fail to impress, even iPhone owners!
Don't hesitate, just buy an S4.
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usmanxhmed said:
I want to know from expert guys who have bought S4 or those who have expert ideas about screen smearing or other issues with S4, kindly advise me should we buy S4 right now or should we wait, or should we consider iPhone5 which does it all in good way but just smaller display or even HTC One?
Advice required?
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If you consider to buy a Iphone 5 instead of the s4, better go with the One. Its closer in terms of fluidness, haptics, optics and display.

nniicckkss said:
I'm loving my S4, I can't see what everyone is moaning about, inventing all of these 'issues' with it! Just set your phone up properly and off you go.
Seriously, it's the best phone I've ever had. My mate has an iPhone, I was showing off my S4 today and it does impress.
The quality of the screen is the first thing you notice, just playing the helicopter video which is on the phone does a good job when showing off, then demonstrate hovering over text messages and emails, then gesture scroll on the browser, it can't fail to impress, even iPhone owners!
Don't hesitate, just buy an S4.
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You're probably just too excited with your S4. I had an iPhone before the S4 and the screen is much brighter. Also, my S4 has a yellowish tint, which is not something i'm happy about. Oh and all those features by Samsung are gimmicks and useless, I turned them all off.
It's a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I hate how this forum is filled with fanboys defending it with everything. Phones DO have disadvantages whether you like it or not -.-

The screen is definitely brighter on my brothers iPhone 5, but most the time you have it on mid brightness anyway, otherwise the 1400mah battery will run out
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@3473 Yeah a smaller battery and drains fast, but the screen does not disappoint imo. I always had my brightness on 80%. The thing is, I never noticed it until today, hence why I am annoyed by it so much. I realise it now every time I turn on my S4 :\

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You're probably just too excited with your S4. I had an iPhone before the S4 and the screen is much brighter. Also, my S4 has a yellowish tint, which is not something i'm happy about. Oh and all those features by Samsung are gimmicks and useless, I turned them all off.
It's a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I hate how this forum is filled with fanboys defending it with everything. Phones DO have disadvantages whether you like it or not -.-
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I've had my first Samsung phone ever, for less than a week, and now I'm a fanboy...!
You're funny.
If your gimmicky phone is broken, change it!
(Perhaps for an iPhone as you like them so much.)
Mine isn't tinted yellow, it's fine.
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@NNIicckks This is my first samsung as well, hence why I'm disappointed. Can you hold your phone with an empty white screen to your laptop (both on full brightness) ? See if you can find yellow tint in yours.

Firstly i am not iFanboy, as i bashed all my life iPhones when i use to love Symbian, the likes of e52, which i bought 4 times in few years and i use to dislike Android as it stole the show and i use to laugh at iPhone as i thought it lacks basic features.
Then features made me switch to Android and i could never switch back to Symbian which i still love, but can't use as most of them you know why, thought i have an old Nokia 5630 for emergencies like now.
Used few Xperias, Desires, Galaxy and the last one i sold was HTC One x About 40 days ago to get decent money out of it just to save money for S4.
Then S4 was so dam late after its announcement, i could not wait, i bought brand new black iPhone 5 just to try iOS for the first time in life, to see why girls, and people like girls like iPhone so much, mainly i evaluated in past because it just do most things, and it does in fairly better way.
When i bought it, i liked iPhone5 screen, not just the brightness because i usually set brightness at 40 percent, to save batter, but the blacks, the colours and it was decent package.
I was surprised that you cannot change even SMS app in iPhone but little happy too that i could never decide which SMS app or which launcher i should use with Android, i was happy there is no home screen in iPhone as i was always nervous to use any widgets on Android due to poor batteries of all android phones.
I was sad that you cannot block calls, you cannot record calls and you have to pay for paid Apps unlike in Android, in which i use to find Apps from net and manually install them. i decided not to jailbreak iPhone because i bought it for ease of use and not to mess, so i given up in whatsapp being paid and start using viber.
then i found it iPhones bezal is prone to scratch like a fire in jungle, softwares were beautiful and screen was too small i felt, though i bought to use for long term but due to those limiations i bought new iPhone 5 with good loss for S4 a week ago after using for 2 weeks.
Now i kept my savings back to buy S4, now guess what, screen, issue, over heating, battery drain? now i think did i made bad choice to sale iPhone, as it was doing most things good and plus its size was great to carry it around, if i could adjust with smaller screen thinking, little is big if little can do most big screens task, as i sold iPhone for big screen S4 plus normal android features like default softwares changing, hacked apps, sharing of songs/videos and larger screen to view web pages and videos and pictures.
Though iPhone screen was very good, i was fond of AMOLED sharp colours too and deep blacks.
Now nobody knows whats the situation of S4 in Pakistan, i called the retailer he says he has no clue about about smearing, what it is, means he is not sure if its there or not, so i am left to spend all my savings to buy this fun and see if my luck is good or bad.
Another thing that let me down is no response from Samsung, i think they taking success as granted just as Nokia did and see its condition now, My beloved Nokia too took success by granted an stayed in past glory, by feeding ancient generation slow CPU when the world was moving to dual cores, they thought we are Nokia we can do whatever we want.
Now samsung is silent, no official response, are they this careless about consumer or worried about 10M pre orders?
now i am here without a smart phone? how can i buy S4 when i am not sure if my unit will have issue or not.
For HTC One X lovers, Metal is good, but prone to scratches and dents more than plastic, so you have to put silicon cover, metal gone and phone becomes fatter, but fine, its ok to bear it, but power switch is not fine? it must be pain for me? HTC in years every reviewer bashed your power button placement, and you are not willing to learn, this time put even farther.
Screem is better but why smaller? battery is nice and again smaller as was the case in S3 and One x? why HTC has to do these compromises is beyond me?
But the two things that is putting One off for me is power button placement, hello i have to use second hand every time? and batter concerns?
I have written too much bull**** here, why? because Samsung could not come up with official statement and they are sitting silent like ****** ?
So? so i may end buying another new iPhone 5 and forget about android advantages and just use my phone is phone and be happy with smaller screen, skype, viber, fluidity etc?

usmanx i think you are clearly isheep..
doesn't matter which phone is good. everywhere on internet said galaxy s3 is better than iphone 5. phone of the years 2012 is galaxy s3. phone of the years 2011 is galaxy s2.
2013 should go to galaxy s4 or htc one. iphone is big sh1t of rubbish. i have use iphone 1, 3gs and 4. yes my wife has iphone 4s and 5atm.
i know how it works. it's simple a prison ( iphone ). you can't do sh1t with it. a damn old ugly interface for ages now. same design kept for years.. nothing innovation.
well. i'm not fan of anything. but i'm sure go to freedom. android is freedom. f*ck ios. my galaxy s3 with wanam custom rom are million miles better than iphone 5. not to mention my galaxy s4 is going to be. once the dev start kicking.

nniicckkss said:
I'm loving my S4, I can't see what everyone is moaning about, inventing all of these 'issues' with it! Just set your phone up properly and off you go.
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Have to agree. I don't have or notice any of the screen issues folks are going on about. Compared to my HTC Evo 4G LTE, the whites might not be quite as bright at times, but the colors are so much better and the screen is very easy to see and use, even in full sunlight. I guess the screen comes down to personal preference in the end, but I sure would not let any minor issues like that have been reported stop you from trying it. It's not perfect, but I'm really enjoying mine so far after a week of using it.

Hovering affect is waist, so as air gestures? they are not reliable plus they will drain battery plus they will slower the phone, plus they make the OS heavy plus simply touching the screen is more assured? and if you have to show these off, then i should not take your advice.
You can talk about benefits of larger screen, more sharing options and other useless features, please not gimmiks, thanks.
I wanted S4 to be automatic choice for me, but a phone with unreliable screen?

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usmanx i think you are clearly isheep..
doesn't matter which phone is good. everywhere on internet said galaxy s3 is better than iphone 5. phone of the years 2012 is galaxy s3. phone of the years 2011 is galaxy s2.
2013 should go to galaxy s4 or htc one. iphone is big sh1t of rubbish. i have use iphone 1, 3gs and 4. yes my wife has iphone 4s and 5atm.
i know how it works. it's simple a prison ( iphone ). you can't do sh1t with it. a damn old ugly interface for ages now. same design kept for years.. nothing innovation.
well. i'm not fan of anything. but i'm sure go to freedom. android is freedom. f*ck ios. my galaxy s3 with wanam custom rom are million miles better than iphone 5. not to mention my galaxy s4 is going to be. once the dev start kicking.
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No dear i am not isheep, actually i was symbian fan, when it died i went to android, used many android phones, i was waiting for S4 after selling HTC One x, but it was getting long wait, so i bought new iPhone 5, liked it, but had small screen and lack of sharing features so i tempted to sale it again for S4 as i thought it is automatic choice, but now after these issues i am confused

conmeo said:
usmanx i think you are clearly isheep..
doesn't matter which phone is good. everywhere on internet said galaxy s3 is better than iphone 5. phone of the years 2012 is galaxy s3. phone of the years 2011 is galaxy s2.
2013 should go to galaxy s4 or htc one. iphone is big sh1t of rubbish. i have use iphone 1, 3gs and 4. yes my wife has iphone 4s and 5atm.
i know how it works. it's simple a prison ( iphone ). you can't do sh1t with it. a damn old ugly interface for ages now. same design kept for years.. nothing innovation.
well. i'm not fan of anything. but i'm sure go to freedom. android is freedom. f*ck ios. my galaxy s3 with wanam custom rom are million miles better than iphone 5. not to mention my galaxy s4 is going to be. once the dev start kicking.
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Well a personal question, you are not forced to answer, but why your wife has 2 iPhones any ways? is one not enough?
and few people don't have free brain and free time to waist on custom roms or all that stuff, they just want to use phone and after using iPhone i know its limitations and strengths now.
Plus, man take it easy, dont enforce your thoughts on others, and dont think what ever you think is absolute right for everyone, every one as different needs and brains, hence different preference for phones.
So if you tell phone one is good and phone too is crap, i will sit back and feel sorry and i will think you need time to be mature in life.
You should say my favourite phones has these benefits which other phone is not having, thats better

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Have to agree. I don't have or notice any of the screen issues folks are going on about. Compared to my HTC Evo 4G LTE, the whites might not be quite as bright at times, but the colors are so much better and the screen is very easy to see and use, even in full sunlight. I guess the screen comes down to personal preference in the end, but I sure would not let any minor issues like that have been reported stop you from trying it. It's not perfect, but I'm really enjoying mine so far after a week of using it.
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Well dude, perfect is nothing, not iPhones scratch prone premium body, not HTC One bigger body with smaller screen as compare to S4 or its power button position, but for the like of me, who is not that rich and he save some money to buy expensive phone, its not easy feeling to buy it when he reads all this up here?

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its not easy feeling to buy it when he reads all this up here?
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I understand. All I can tell you is that after using mine for a week, I don't find ANY display issues at all with my S4. I think there is just a mountain being made of a mole hill, personally.
BTW, some of the "gimmicks" are useful. Like the hover thing. In certain apps, it's kind of like hovering your mouse over a thread header in this forum and getting a preview of the thread.

The issues aren't that significant and they don't make the device unusable. Apart from these tolerable display issues, the device is amazing. Perfect audio quality, great battery life, thin and light.
iPhone 5 is also a great device. Yes, the display is small but it has great contrast and accurate colors. Just know that there will be things that you could easily do on Android but can't on iOS.
I didn't get a chance to use HTC One, so I can't comment on that one.
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How can you even consider iPhone 5 is beyond me...
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How you can't even use proper grammar and still feel the right to insult someone else's smartphone choice is beyond me.

First Nexus 6 on video?

Dodgy vine unboxing video aside, I think this is the first hands-on of the Nexus 6, and it's also compared to the Note 4!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y
Video Summary:
Note 4 display has better colours.
Note 4 has slightly sharper images (likely the 3mp extra coming into account)
Nexus 6 has better low light images and flash
Nexus 6 has the better software (surprising no one at all)
Shame its so short and doesnt really go into any of the other features. I really wanted to know how the Stereo speakers were on the Nexus 6.

notice how finalized model doesn't have that metal dimple but just like the 1st gen Moto X, wonder what changed their minds, it felt pretty good on 2nd MotoX.

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notice how finalized model doesn't have that metal dimple but just like the 1st gen Moto X, wonder what changed their minds, it felt pretty good on 2nd MotoX.
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I noticed that. Now I'm a bit confused. I want the white Nexus 6, but not if the dimple in the back is going to be black. Is the one in the video just not the final version or something?

KerryWood34 said:
I noticed that. Now I'm a bit confused. I want the white Nexus 6, but not if the dimple in the back is going to be black. Is the one in the video just not the final version or something?
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The phone in the video is not the final version.
I also noticed that the video states the nexus 6 to have an LCD display while it has an AMOLED display. It's most likely a preproduction unit or something.

Holy crap thats bigger than I expected

Note 4 screen was just wow... but nexus screen is clearly bigger...

What's really disappointing is that the Note 4 has more vibrant and saturated colors and a much brighter screen. Hopefully the final release will have a brighter screen.

KerryWood34 said:
I noticed that. Now I'm a bit confused. I want the white Nexus 6, but not if the dimple in the back is going to be black. Is the one in the video just not the final version or something?
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It clearly shows on the Nexus page that it will not have preproduction dimple

msal said:
What's really disappointing is that the Note 4 has more vibrant and saturated colors and a much brighter screen. Hopefully the final release will have a brighter screen.
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Samsung over-saturates their screens so the N6 will not have that. I prefer the Sammy screen but w/e

mk92595 said:
Samsung over-saturates their screens so the N6 will not have that. I prefer the Sammy screen but w/e
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Yeah I also prefer Samsung's displays. I understand the saturation levels, but why is the Note 4 so much more bright?

msal said:
Yeah I also prefer Samsung's displays. I understand the saturation levels, but why is the Note 4 so much more bright?
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Could be something as simple as different ambient light sensor settings. Samsung may have it designed to crank the brightness up higher than it really would need to be? Who knows.
Also have to take into account the angles at which he was holding the phones. When he's holding them both up in front of him while the video is playing, they seem to be angled slightly towards each other... and the Nexus 6 seems to be getting a lot more glare. When you see him browsing the settings menu, the brightness difference is much less prominent.

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Samsung over-saturates their screens so the N6 will not have that. I prefer the Sammy screen but w/e
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The Note 4 has a basic color setting (in addition to typical AMOLED saturations), which works so well,
it is the most accurate smartphone display ever made.
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Yeah I also prefer Samsung's displays. I understand the saturation levels, but why is the Note 4 so much more bright?
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I highly anticipate Samsung didn't give the N6 access to their latest and greatest AMOLED technology like they did their own flagship - enough said until official reviews post.
elementaldragon said:
Could be something as simple as different ambient light sensor settings. Samsung may have it designed to crank the brightness up higher than it really would need to be? Who knows.
Also have to take into account the angles at which he was holding the phones. When he's holding them both up in front of him while the video is playing, they seem to be angled slightly towards each other... and the Nexus 6 seems to be getting a lot more glare. When you see him browsing the settings menu, the brightness difference is much less prominent.
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Both devices are at 100% manual brightness when on the home screen and settings pages (unsure on video, but likely the same). Do remember that on auto brightness, the Note 4 can actually go up another 140~ nits as part of an outdoor boost mode. The Note also has adaptive display color modes (likely enabled by default here) to saturate colors to increase contrast in sunlight, in addition to their less reflective glass panel. Samsung got it right from how it looks so far. Perplexed as to why they'd do an outside video though with a crappy camera.
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Nitemare3219 said:
I highly anticipate Samsung didn't give the N6 access to their latest and greatest AMOLED technology like they did their own flagship - enough said until official reviews post.
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Well this is going to suck then lol. That means the Nexus 5 display will be similar to that of the S4.

Probably more likely it's the Note 3 technology.
Moto X = S4 technology - same brightness, released 12 months later
Nexus 6 = Note 3 technology, released 12 months later

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I highly anticipate Samsung didn't give the N6 access to their latest and greatest AMOLED technology like they did their own flagship - enough said until official reviews post.
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SO you think that only Samsung Produce AMOLED panels ?
AU Optronics also make AMOLED displays, also I can't imagine Moto asking Samsung for the display in the first place as Im sure Samsung would stitch them up something rotten.
Regardless of who makes the panel its mor eof the fact that google have a 6" because this is all it is about who can make the best Phablet.
As long as the Battery can handle the screen i can't see why it wont sell in droves to the Phablet market over the note if the price is right, if its too close to the Samsung people will just buy the Samsung and not compromise.
The note 4 retails here between £550 and £600, so the Nexus 6 is going to have to respond to that !
so unless the lowest model of the N6 is around £450 i can't really see areason not to go with Sammys offerings and just ditch Touchwhizz when you get root and flash Stock.

Dont forget with a nexus we can change the screen color with custom kernels.If you want more contrast, add it! At least this is how i remember it on my galaxy nexus.

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Probably more likely it's the Note 3 technology.
Moto X = S4 technology - same brightness, released 12 months later
Nexus 6 = Note 3 technology, released 12 months later
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If that's the case, it shouldn't be bad by any means... just not as good efficiency or accuracy wise as the new displays.
hutzdani said:
SO you think that only Samsung Produce AMOLED panels ?
AU Optronics also make AMOLED displays, also I can't imagine Moto asking Samsung for the display in the first place as Im sure Samsung would stitch them up something rotten.
Regardless of who makes the panel its mor eof the fact that google have a 6" because this is all it is about who can make the best Phablet.
As long as the Battery can handle the screen i can't see why it wont sell in droves to the Phablet market over the note if the price is right, if its too close to the Samsung people will just buy the Samsung and not compromise.
The note 4 retails here between £550 and £600, so the Nexus 6 is going to have to respond to that !
so unless the lowest model of the N6 is around £450 i can't really see areason not to go with Sammys offerings and just ditch Touchwhizz when you get root and flash Stock.
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Perhaps not only Samsung, but I'm sure they're the best. They have plenty of money and invented the technology...
The N6 may be 6", but for the average user they are losing that additional screen space to buttons. And the S-Pen is something that puts the Note a whole league ahead of the N6. Size isn't everything, especially when you hit the phablet sector. All these phones are big, so what else do they have to offer?
Don't get me wrong, I've been a Nexus user for years and just recently got the G3 to try it out (big mistake). I want the N6 to be amazing and win me over, but I feel like I'm going to be somewhat let down compared to other flagships yet again which is a big deal considering the price isn't any different now.
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Dont forget with a nexus we can change the screen color with custom kernels.If you want more contrast, add it! At least this is how i remember it on my galaxy nexus.
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True, but how well the display was built is still a factor. And you can't increase brightness or fix viewing angles
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SNIP.....
Don't get me wrong, I've been a Nexus user for years and just recently got the G3 to try it out (big mistake). I want the N6 to be amazing and win me over, but I feel like I'm going to be somewhat let down compared to other flagships yet again which is a big deal considering the price isn't any different now.
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In your Case if your G3 is your Daily Driver i don't think the Nexus 6 will be disappointing as you have no L preview to flash and get used to Lollipop, the G3 is a solid device bar the OS skin which is so cluttered.
The best thing about the Nexus 6 will be the Build quality, the N5 is so soft and has finally succomed to light dinks out of the plastic and cracking between the plastic around the side volume / power and sim.

hutzdani said:
In your Case if your G3 is your Daily Driver i don't think the Nexus 6 will be disappointing as you have no L preview to flash and get used to Lollipop, the G3 is a solid device bar the OS skin which is so cluttered.
The best thing about the Nexus 6 will be the Build quality, the N5 is so soft and has finally succomed to light dinks out of the plastic and cracking between the plastic around the side volume / power and sim.
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I thought the back of the Nexus 6 was soft plastic again? Either way the phone is gorgeous. I'm not sure how much I like the front of it though.. reminds me a lot of the Nexus 4.
My G3 has a great camera, and amazing display. It could be brighter, and a little warmer for color accuracy, but it is IPS and I love it. The problem with the G3 isn't within cluttered OS (I find it to be pretty close to stock Android), but with lag, build quality, probable lack of dev, and bugs.
The 801 cannot handle this device, plain and simple - at least in terms of Nexus speed. It also overheats when things get crazy. The phone looks great, don't get me wrong. But the casing has reportedly cracked at ports because it is still plastic (must be crap plastic at that). I do love the front design of the phone (back is whatever because it's always been in a case), especially in white. The T-Mobile boot loader has been open since day 1, and development is still dead. ATT just got theirs unlocked, but I feel like the device just isn't going to take off at this point. Reception has been a pain where I'm currently located, WiFi drops and hesitates to reconnect all too frequently, WiFi calling messes up, WiFi hotspots are broken without apps, and int'l roaming didn't work out of the box to name a few issues. LG software support is crap, so I have no hope for this device.
But then you might say - it's Android, who cares about bad software? Well, with a lack of dev, that is still a problem. Secondly, I used to be a flashaholic. I've had Android since the G1 debuted in 2008. But I've grown out of constantly flashing, updating, tinkering... I'll do a few things here or there, but I kept my Nexus 5 stock (rooted w/ recovery though) the entire time I've had it (still do). I did a few modifications, but that's it. I change phones every year or so because I haven't had one that just blew me away and made me feel like I could keep it for awhile, without needing to try a million different ROMs either. The Note 4 or Nexus 6 could be that device I actually keep more than a year IF they deliver the whole package. Displays and cameras are finally getting where they need to be, and if the hardware and software can make the phone blazing fast, I have everything I need.
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the SPen in note 2 and 3.
But Touchwiz is just painful. Custom ROMs void the warranty too.
Plus the Exynos variant is quite a bit more powerful than the more common Snapdragon version, and also has a better camera and wolfson DAC. However, Exynos has poor ROM support outside of tweaked Touchwiz. And as I say, warranty = void.
A custom launcher can't get rid of all that bloat unfortunately. The note 4 pretty much maxes all available RAM out of the box due to the bloat.
Screen might not be as good, but the build quality looks to be better, front facing speakers, and above all else a phone that you can do whatever you want to. No restrictions.
Literally the only bad thing in my eyes is the lack of micro SD support, but everyone knew that before it was announced anyway. 64GB is more than enough for me.