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Seeing the varying like/dislike, hate/love getting around for the xperia plays touchpads i was wondering if a driver could be developed to allow you to modify the behaviour of the touchpads, lets say u have an app that can adjust the deadzones, where the extreme min max values are placed on the pads themselves, how sensitive they are, etc etc.
if this stuff is taken care of by the apps using the touchpads generally, then would an interface layer to modify the behavior be workable? it seems the experience varies alot between games and having a modifiable global profile for the touchpad might push them from meh to awesome.
as an additional, perhaps have a way to assign a portion of the screen(or the whole thing) to be mirrored to the touchpads, eg draw a rectangle around the n64 analog stick and map it to one of the touchpads and have the input mirrored via the touchpad-almost universal control for all apps.
anyways, this may have been brought up already, but now that we have all this great custom rom stuff, getting these touchpads to be amazing seems like a good idea to me. i understand theres alot of dev work here and would be interested in hearing others thoughts about it.
I like your ideas. Would be nice. Lets ask a dev....
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Most games are near unplayable without deadzones. Can you imagine how awesome Modern Combat 3 would be with deadzones?
Sadly, the touchpads don't work like that, they aren't really virtual joysticks, they actually behave like the touchpads on your notebooks. Which means that it's up to the app in question to decide what to do with the input.
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.
I have uploaded a video of a new nintendo ds emulator that im beta testing running on the shield. Its in private beta so dont ask for a copy or how to join the beta test.
EDIT:
Google play link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KR42DFEhY
If your interested I have more videos in my channel and lots more on the way. Some specific to the shield and emulators, some specific to just DraStic.
Be sure to like and subscribe if you like what you see or want to see more.
Wow, I can't believe it runs so well. I have pretty much every game I could want for the DS but it would be fun to play on a nicer screen. Maybe one of those stylus that works on capacitive screens would be good to have for the touch heavy based games.
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Wow, I can't believe it runs so well. I have pretty much every game I could want for the DS but it would be fun to play on a nicer screen. Maybe one of those stylus that works on capacitive screens would be good to have for the touch heavy based games.
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I have a request in to do like a on screen mapping for the right analog stick for touchscreen input for games that use the touchscreen for an control method as demonstrated in the video. It is a problem with emulating that platform with a device that doesn't share the same form factor with it's combination of hardware controls and touchscreen. (OUYA, tablet + moga/PS3/xbox360, xperia play, etc etc) if all touchscreen device it's a natural switch.
I didn't do it in the video, but you can use the right stick and click (push down & hold) and it simulates the touchscreen input. But it's kind of a pain to constantly push in. If the option doesn't get implemented I think a 3rd party on screen mapper program could serve the same purpose.
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I have a request in to do like a on screen mapping for the right analog stick for touchscreen input for games that use the touchscreen for an control method as demonstrated in the video. It is a problem with emulating that platform with a device that doesn't share the same form factor with it's combination of hardware controls and touchscreen. (OUYA, tablet + moga/PS3/xbox360, xperia play, etc etc) if all touchscreen device it's a natural switch.
I didn't do it in the video, but you can use the right stick and click (push down & hold) and it simulates the touchscreen input. But it's kind of a pain to constantly push in. If the option doesn't get implemented I think a 3rd party on screen mapper program could serve the same purpose.
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If you can put the authors in touch with me, I can offer them some assistance. Emulators are a great win on this device, so I'd be glad to give them any assistance they need on how to get it working better.
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If you can put the authors in touch with me, I can offer them some assistance. Emulators are a great win on this device, so I'd be glad to give them any assistance they need on how to get it working better.
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the authors are Lordus and Exophase on the openpandora forum if you want to PM them
tell them "ANDROID" or "SNESFAN" sent ya, and you're a lead software engineer on the shield, I'll send the message their way as well but I don't think they frequent XDA
Wow that runs beautifully. Can't wait to see this on the Play Store!
Side by Side, damn thats an odd layout, but works great for the shield I guess.
Is this emulator specific to shield or could it also run on a tablet with a gamepad, and if so can it run portrait?
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Side by Side, damn thats an odd layout, but works great for the shield I guess.
Is this emulator specific to shield or could it also run on a tablet with a gamepad, and if so can it run portrait?
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there's other layouts and other devices demo'ed in one of the other videos in my channel. Side by side or big/little and one screen w/ switch button that makes the most sense layout wise for a landscape only device. But for purposes of this video I just everything default in this one.
There is a top/bottom landscape I'm going to show off in a future video that might be more interesting to some people but it leaves large boarders on the sides.
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there's other layouts and other devices demo'ed in one of the other videos in my channel. Side by side or big/little and one screen w/ switch button that makes the most sense layout wise for a landscape only device. But for purposes of this video I just everything default in this one.
There is a top/bottom landscape I'm going to show off in a future video that might be more interesting to some people but it leaves large boarders on the sides.
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Top/Bottom I was more interested in for a tablet etc which I could flip portrait.
This looks like a promising emulator. None of the other DS emulators I have tried in the past have performed well on android at all, this looks to be the first playable one.
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Top/Bottom I was more interested in for a tablet etc which I could flip portrait.
This looks like a promising emulator. None of the other DS emulators I have tried in the past have performed well on android at all, this looks to be the first playable one.
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for tablets/phones and stuff there is top/bottom portrait
it runs well on modestly spec'd hardware. The lowest I can suggest is an mono-core cortex a8 @ 1Ghz (xperia play) more cores and next generation chip-sets will perform better according to raw processing power. It works very playable on a dual core a8 @ 1.2Ghz (HTC EVO 3D)
the minimum technical requirements are
ARMv7 (cortex a8, a9, a15 or above)
NEON SIMD extension (tegra 2 specifically is out tegra 3/4 is fine)
Android Gingerbread 2.3.3+ (some extra features will be enabled with a higher version of android)
Cool. I will be more likely to play this on my S4, but do plan on getting the Shield. Was going to get the Ouya, but the low storage, proprietary market and clunky UI have turned my interest to zero. This has much better specs, portable and has good enough sound where a 24" or 27" pc display without speakers could be used. Low cost arcade system
rushless said:
Cool. I will be more likely to play this on my S4, but do plan on getting the Shield. Was going to get the Ouya, but the low storage, proprietary market and clunky UI have turned my interest to zero. This has much better specs, portable and has good enough sound where a 24" or 27" pc display without speakers could be used. Low cost arcade system
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Not to mention that any game that runs on the ouya could be ported to run on the shield. Only thing missing would be touchpad support, which the OUYA implements as a HID mouse so a USB mouse may actually fulfil that role. Failing that, touch screen.
There were efforst to get the OUYA framework on other devices to natively attempt to run OUYA titles, I don't know how thats gone, but the shield would be an awesome candidate for that.
come and get it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic
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come and get it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic
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I've been playing CV Aria or Sorrow and so far it's the best nds emu on android. I do get some minor bugs (game will close out back to the emulator menu) but all in all, an excellent emulator.
I've tested it on three games so far and it's by and far the best DS emulator out there. It's so smooth, and it allows for native gamepad mapping, which the others are lacking.
The only problem I'm having is touch input for the bottom screen. How do I enable it?
Also, I'm on a Nexus 10, but since this thread was started by a beta tester, I figured I'd ask here.
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I've tested it on three games so far and it's by and far the best DS emulator out there. It's so smooth, and it allows for native gamepad mapping, which the others are lacking.
The only problem I'm having is touch input for the bottom screen. How do I enable it?
Also, I'm on a Nexus 10, but since this thread was started by a beta tester, I figured I'd ask here.
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In the middle of a game, tap the menu on-screen button which will have a stylus button, tap that and it will allow touch input.
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This emulator is fantastic. Honestly being able to sync your savestates with Google Drive made me wonder "Why hasn't anyone done this before?"
This app rocks! Well spent money for this.
What game is shown in the screen shot on the play store where there is a guy with a sword in a dungeon and a blob looking thing? I have a DS and every game I could want at least I thought I did, but I don't recognize that game...
This is awesome. Been messing with this emulator since it released on the Play Store. I'm amazed at how well it runs. Haven't run into a single issue with it.
This emulator rocks. I have been playing everything I have and not a problem yet. I really like the way I can play Gta Chinatown on my shield and use Google drive to sync my progress so I can pick up on my phone. (Note 2 runs perfect btw)
I'm waiting for my MOJO in the mail.
In the meanwhile, does anyone mind testing the android only (non-Ouya) version of Retroarch?
My concern is that how does one get around on that app without the touch screen?
The touch screen seems necessary for the menu part. Is that where the mouse function comes in? Curious what/if there is/ a workaround for that. Thanks again!
It's not tough to get around..Once you get the MOJO you'll see just how versatile the CTRLR is. It's really a great control.
If you don't like mouse mode on the controller, plug in a real mouse or use a BT mouse. I've used both, and do prefer them to using the CTRLR.
I've not really gotten into Retroarch, yet. I've got it, but since I've actually paid for all the other emulators, I've not really seen a point in using it.
ALSO: Lots of people are switching to Nostalgia.NES over some of the more popular ones..In my opinion, the .EMU are better overall....I mean how important is a FF option? I wish I'd saved my $1.50.
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It's not tough to get around..Once you get the MOJO you'll see just how versatile the CTRLR is. It's really a great control.
If you don't like mouse mode on the controller, plug in a real mouse or use a BT mouse. I've used both, and do prefer them to using the CTRLR.
I've not really gotten into Retroarch, yet. I've got it, but since I've actually paid for all the other emulators, I've not really seen a point in using it.
ALSO: Lots of people are switching to Nostalgia.NES over some of the more popular ones..In my opinion, the .EMU are better overall....I mean how important is a FF option? I wish I'd saved my $1.50.
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I agree, I think nes.EMU works fine for an nes emulator. Tried the free version of nostalgia nes but for some reason that app wouldn't read my roms of of my sd card. Not a big deal, nes.EMU works fine. Even for that matter, I rarely play nes anyhow..
So this device apparently starts shipping tomorrow right? When it does can someone please download some emulators and try them out? I would like to especially see the performance of PPSSPP, the PSP emulator. I would be eternally grateful to you. If you have access to various Bluetooth controllers I would like to hear about the compatibility of those as well if possible
Yes, If this product can smoothly run some of the games I have downloaded, then I should be picking one up. I'm sure it going to be hard to download games with such limted storage, but hopefully someone can showcase some quality android titles. It basically has OUYA specs; however, with a more powerful CPU. I want to buy one, as it would be my first Nexus product. Some cool titles I would want to see runnig: MC5, GT racing as Asphalt 8 I've seen, and Need For Speed Most Wanted.
As a regard to emulators, It has 8gb of storage, good luck!
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Yes, If this product can smoothly run some of the games I have downloaded, then I should be picking one up. I'm sure it going to be hard to download games with such limted storage, but hopefully someone can showcase some quality android titles. It basically has OUYA specs; however, with a more powerful CPU. I want to buy one, as it would be my first Nexus product. Some cool titles I would want to see runnig: MC5, GT racing as Asphalt 8 I've seen, and Need For Speed Most Wanted.
As a regard to emulators, It has 8gb of storage, good luck!
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Yeah if this had a Tegra K1 chip in it I would've been there Day 1 no questions asked, but as it is standing I'd rather wait and see some impressions first.
disorder78 said:
Yes, If this product can smoothly run some of the games I have downloaded, then I should be picking one up. I'm sure it going to be hard to download games with such limted storage, but hopefully someone can showcase some quality android titles. It basically has OUYA specs; however, with a more powerful CPU. I want to buy one, as it would be my first Nexus product. Some cool titles I would want to see runnig: MC5, GT racing as Asphalt 8 I've seen, and Need For Speed Most Wanted.
As a regard to emulators, It has 8gb of storage, good luck!
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I would hardly say the ouya's GPU compares to the G6430.
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I would hardly say the ouya's GPU compares to the G6430.
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Yeah, definitely. It outscores the GeForce ULP in the Tegra 3 by 2x-10x depending on the benchmark, and specifically handles the higher resolution (like the 1080p at which these devices tend to run) much better. Given the fact that even the Ouya was able to emulate up through the N64 reasonably well I think that the Nexus Player will make a great emulation device.
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So this device apparently starts shipping tomorrow right? When it does can someone please download some emulators and try them out? I would like to especially see the performance of PPSSPP, the PSP emulator. I would be eternally grateful to you. If you have access to various Bluetooth controllers I would like to hear about the compatibility of those as well if possible
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I believe it was the Ars Technica review where they had the N64 emulator running on it flawlessly. Seems emulation will be great on this box (seemingly one of only a few strong points).
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I believe it was the Ars Technica review where they had the N64 emulator running on it flawlessly. Seems emulation will be great on this box (seemingly one of only a few strong points).
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Oh man, thanks for the reply. I was looking to emulate PSP games more than anything but I guess up to N64 and maybe Dreamcast is fine as well.
I use my N64 and SNES emulators and they work great!! It runs better than my Xbox one which sucks at most things.
Here are some pictures of it on my TV using Super GNES and Mupen64
The pictures I took aren't the best but it runs great. You can map the buttons on the gamepad however you want which makes it great and my wife loves it
Just wanted to chime in here and say that it works perfectly fine with the Wii U USB adapter and a Wii U Pro controller. Just make sure the adapter switch is set on the Xinput setting
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smiley2billion said:
Just wanted to chime in here and say that it works perfectly fine with the Wii U USB adapter and a Wii U Pro controller. Just make sure the adapter switch is set on the Xinput setting
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how many controllers does the adapter support at one time?
I'm using the PCE.emu and Neo.emu and they work fine. Only thing that makes me crazy is that sideloaded apps are too large for the TV display, some menu options are difficult to read. Does anybody know if there is a way to adjust the resolution for sideloaded apps so they fit the TV screen properly?
buda81 said:
how many controllers does the adapter support at one time?
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The listing on Amazon says that it supports up to 4 controllers with the 'direct input' mode, however I tried using the direct input mode and it seemed to not want to use the d pad and all of the buttons performed the same action. Using 'xinput' (I think this just emulates the Xbox controller input) everything mapped perfectly and all was well, the bad news is that it can only do 1 controller at a time using this method, so you'd need 1 usb adapter per controller. Also I have only 1 Wii U Pro controller so I don't have any way to test if multiple controllers even work with the direct input mode, it's worked perfectly with 'xinput' so I haven't moved it from there.
Its hard to see there but on the side there's a toggle switch that lets you pick between 'dinput' and 'xinput'.
How does one install the emulator? Do I need to do this over adb ? If so, how can I download an apk from the play store?
I can't get Super GNES to work. I install it and it says there is a new version on the play store and for me to download it. Well I downloaded it from the play store so I don't see how its not the newest version. Where are you getting your version of Super GNES?
Searching for a tutorial on how to sideload an app...
Elemino said:
Searching for a tutorial on how to sideload an app...
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If the app you want to "sideload" is in the normal Play store, all you have to do is load up the Play store on your computer then click install and select your Nexus Player as the device. That simple. You'll also want to install Chainfire's Sideload Launcher app from the Play store as well, as that makes accessing non-android tv optimized apps easier:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.tv.sideloadlauncher&hl=en
If you have an apk you'd rather install manually, you'll have to use adb and an a cable or use ES File Explorer (or equivalent) to transfer the apk from your computer/etc over wifi. There are already a few topics in these threads that discuss how.
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I can't get Super GNES to work. I install it and it says there is a new version on the play store and for me to download it. Well I downloaded it from the play store so I don't see how its not the newest version. Where are you getting your version of Super GNES?
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I got the same error with the (non-free) non-lite version of GNES. Tried the (free) lite version and that works fine (version 1.5.4). I'm not too experienced with sideloading, but perhaps the non-free nature of the full version of SuperGNES is the issue? The free version sucks though, since you can't load saved states, so it seems I can't continue my progress even though the ROM in question has save functionality.
Just wanted to share my experiences so far, since this is one of the bigger reasons I bought the NP. I've managed to load NES.emu, 2600.emu, MAME4Droid (0.37b5), and Mupen64 AE so far.
Installing apps:
Like many have suggested, I was able to load a couple of apps like ES Explorer and NES.emu through the Google Play web site and selecting the NP as the installation target. However, MAME and a couple of other apps would not install this way, so I have to sideload Aptoide and use that to install the remaining apps. Note that since no web browser is available, I had to use another tablet to identify the stores where apps could be found, and add them manually before selecting apps and installing them.
Navigation:
For the most part, the remote suffices, but it's not perfect. I installed ChainFire's Sideload Launcher, as only NES.emu shows up in my apps menu on the home screen. However, I happened to own a Nyko Playpad (not the Pro) from a while ago that I never really used. While I can't recommend it as a great gaming controller, it does have one key feature that turns it from run-of-the-mill control pad to ultimate NP utility. It contains a switch that allows you to switch between HID, iCade, Mouse, and App modes. It's the Mouse setting that makes this controller truly useful, because without it, I couldn't navigate around MAME to set up my control pad, or navigate around Mupen64 to quit out of a game (how else are people achieving this? Just quitting out?) Basically, to really set up many of the emus properly, you need some kind of mouse input, so it's nice that I can switch the Playpad back and forth between HID and Mouse modes as needed.
Performance:
Obviously, NES.emu and 2600.emu are not really demanding, so they work "flawlessly" (as in, any problems are due to the emulators, not the NP.) I also chose the smaller MAME, and nothing in there really pushes the system too hard. Street Fighter II Turbo ran as fast as expected. The only really challenge to the system was Mupen64. I'm happy to say that it ran everything that it was capable of running at full frame rate, and the only hiccups were related to the emulator itself. It successfully ran Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Star Fox 64, and Mischief Makers. It could not Blast Corps or Bomberman 64.
All in all, I can say that things work well, provided you have the right equipment. For me, the mode switch feature of the Nyko Playpad is indispensable, although if you have a bluetooth enabled mouse device, that will suffice. Things can only get better. I haven't tried PPSSPP yet, but that will be my next test.
Thank you so much sjj.
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