Most of the Android ChinaRadios come with some sort of CANbus decoder (or so they are labeled) to provide steering wheel controls, backup support, etc... Every single vendor will only sell you a CANbus decoder that they 'manufacture' for their units - claiming that any other combination of decoder/radio will not work.
Aside from this being mostly BS, these vendors are absolutely adamant of not wanting to sell individual of these decoders - which for Chinese vendors is curious, to say the least, to turn down any opportunity to make a buck.
Either way, despite all of them claiming to manufacture their own, we know that is BS -- these vendors buy products from actual manufacturers, repackage them, and sell them.
Try as I might (Alibaba, aliexpress, globalSources) I have not been able to find a manufacturer that produces just these boxes.
Does anyone around here have any leads?
MacConsult said:
Most of the Android ChinaRadios come with some sort of CANbus decoder (or so they are labeled) to provide steering wheel controls, backup support, etc... Every single vendor will only sell you a CANbus decoder that they 'manufacture' for their units - claiming that any other combination of decoder/radio will not work.
Aside from this being mostly BS, these vendors are absolutely adamant of not wanting to sell individual of these decoders - which for Chinese vendors is curious, to say the least, to turn down any opportunity to make a buck.
Either way, despite all of them claiming to manufacture their own, we know that is BS -- these vendors buy products from actual manufacturers, repackage them, and sell them.
Try as I might (Alibaba, aliexpress, globalSources) I have not been able to find a manufacturer that produces just these boxes.
Does anyone around here have any leads?
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To add more to that.
My previous unit an Witson 3066/1Gb ram has an CAN decoder that worked fine for my Ford but the Joying ones work only 85% fine meaning the PREV and NEXT buttons were reversed and that was a pain to use since all my life when I push the NEXT button I expect to hear the next song not the previous one.
Anyway, although I was struggling to correct the Joying CAN mistake I could not because I did not find any way that I could reflash the CAN box. Joying said that the CAN might not be 100% compatible with my car although it should be.
Even if the old CAN box from my former Witson unit was looking exactly the same and the wire socket was exactly the same as the Joying one, the wiring was completely different, different wiring location on the socket, different wire colours. The internals of the CAN boxes looked almost the same but I did not had the courage to test the Witson one on the Joying afraid that I would damage the headunit or more importantly the car...
What I did in the end was to directly connect the resistive buttons of the steering wheel directly to the unit (bypassing the CAN) and program them via the unit software and let the CAN box to decode the other stuff like putting the car in reverse, turning on the lights, feeding +12V to the unit when I start the car.
What I learned is that CAN box is a black box... if it's not working it's almost impossible to find a fix of any kind... or buy a working replacement...
That appears to mirror my initial impression, albeit I feel that different vendors use different providers for these CANboxes and hence that a different CANbox should be able to do the job another can't.
Example, on my XTRONS unit, the steering wheel controls didn't work at all - albeit reverse detection and lights worked well. Unlike my prior box (from 'alec-power' where everything worked (except the radio didn't produce any sound - a slight issue. They took it back and refunded me). Now, XTRONS had me send back the CANbus box, and promised to send another as soon as they have stock again. (1-2 weeks), but they also confirmed that their e39/e46 (BMW) decoder is the same as the one for e53.
What we really need is to figure out how these CANbus boxes work, and ideally how to program them (if that is possible -- which it ought to be).
That's what I was attempting to kick-start with this thread.
Bummer, so no one has any information on these CANbus decoders?
MacConsult said:
Bummer, so no one has any information on these CANbus decoders?
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Your best bet is to try a different car in the canbus setting in factory settings. I had that problem on my ford focus I set the canbus for it and it didn't work right with the steering wheel so went through them all to find that the ford Mondeo rise settings worked and fixed that problem for me.
Where can i buy new canbus gor ownice c500? I send mail to manufacturer but no answer
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Your best bet is to try a different car in the canbus setting in factory settings. I had that problem on my ford focus I set the canbus for it and it didn't work right with the steering wheel so went through them all to find that the ford Mondeo rise settings worked and fixed that problem for me.
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Turned out, in my case, that the proper setting was "NONE" in the CANbus settings, and suddenly everything worked.
Chinese engineering....
If you need a canbus box, your best bet would be to go with a more mainstream manufacturer, like axxess/metra. Their units can tie back into the car radio using the SWI1/2 wires.
Any update on this?
Just reviving an old thread looking for answers
I also think there is a problem with my bmw e39 can-bus box i am using with Xtrons PQ7939BIP. When i connect the can-bus box, the red (terminal R) and the yellow (battery + terminal 30) become "shorted" and they should not "touch" each other. This way, i have to connect the yellow and the red wires from the android unit to the violet/white wire from my car (terminal R - accesory) and leave the terminal 30 (hot all time) wire from the car disconnected so that the xtrons unit shuts down when i put the ignition switch in position 0 or when i pull out the key from the ignition switch.
Is this normal or is my can-bus box bad?
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bogdan wst said:
I also think there is a problem with my bmw e39 can-bus box i am using with Xtrons PQ7939BIP. When i connect the can-bus box, the red (terminal R) and the yellow (battery + terminal 30) become "shorted" and they should not "touch" each other. This way, i have to connect the yellow and the red wires from the android unit to the violet/white wire from my car (terminal R - accesory) and leave the terminal 30 (hot all time) wire from the car disconnected so that the xtrons unit shuts down when i put the ignition switch in position 0 or when i pull out the key from the ignition switch.
Is this normal or is my can-bus box bad?
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You can connect the red wire to any wire on your bmw that has 12 volts with the key on RUN or ACCESSORY, but the yellow wire needs to have 12 volts all the time.
MacConsult said:
Most of the Android ChinaRadios come with some sort of CANbus decoder (or so they are labeled) to provide steering wheel controls, backup support, etc... Every single vendor will only sell you a CANbus decoder that they 'manufacture' for their units - claiming that any other combination of decoder/radio will not work.
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Every PX5 and PX head unit can work with a canbus decoder from different manufacturers. You have to go to Android Settings > Car settings > Factory settings (password: 126) > Canbus tab > Select the manufacturer of your canbus decoder and the car model.
I have a PX5 head unit with a canbus decoder from "Simple", and when it broke, I replaced it with "Raise" and it works.
I recommend to review the list of supported canbus decoders in your head unit in the Factory settings, before purchasing a new one. You may need also to buy a new wire harness if you don't have a plug for the canbus decoder.
piotrmocko said:
Every PX5 and PX head unit can work with a canbus decoder from different manufacturers. You have to go to Android Settings > Car settings > Factory settings (password: 126) > Canbus tab > Select the manufacturer of your canbus decoder and the car model.
I have a PX5 head unit with a canbus decoder from "Simple", and when it broke, I replaced it with "Raise" and it works.
I recommend to review the list of supported canbus decoders in your head unit in the Factory settings, before purchasing a new one. You may need also to buy a new wire harness if you don't have a plug for the canbus decoder.
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Hi,
I also have PX unit (PX6) with Simple soft CANBUS and I get more options when I chose raise like air-conditioning info on my PX6 unit. I have Honda civic 2016 and the only thing that is not working is the car clock not syncing through the CANBUS from my Dasaita PX6 unit. which is a bummer.
I am very curious about the Can Box options as when looking to buy a unit for my '18 WRX with HK Audio I found the IDoing selling them with support for the HK and was surprised as Crutchfield and Meastro just added support for this setup and I was about to order their harness and box to wire in a Kenwood unit I have in my old car.
When I found the IDoing(FYT) I figured all the other better know sellers should have had same option so I emailed Joying as I couldn't find option from them and they responded that they didn't have a solution. SYGAV does claim to have one but but it's nearly double cost and all the WRX reviews said it was hit or miss if it worked.
I bought the IDoing unit and it was plug and play and works great(with one exception)
If these are all the same HU and CanBus hardware, why the variances? Just programming by the seller or are they all buying from different MFR?
Before ordering I tried to order a harness and canbus from IDoing and the unit from Joying, Joying wouldn't sell me the HU because I had mentioned I had HK Audio and IDoing Flat out refused to sell me a canbus and harness without proof I had bought a HU from them.
That said the Unit works very well and the only issue with the Canbus is that it can't control the rear speaker separate from the front(no fade).
Someone earlier mentioned buying a maestro, has anyone ever connected one of these chinese units to a maestro box?
Just so everyone knows
I managed to add canbus functionality to my xtrons unit even though they said it’s not compatible
I bought a harness for my car with the correct decoder and chopped it to fit the pin outs of my head unit.
works like a dream.
If anyone needs advice I am always available
what car and what harness? You bought a canbus and harness from another "seller" and made it fit? Or you bought something aftermarket like Maestro?
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what car and what harness? You bought a canbus and harness from another "seller" and made it fit? Or you bought something aftermarket like Maestro?
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Peugeot 207.
bought harness with decoder from feedo seller.
chopped off the connector and soldered it to my hu connector
are you looking to do same?
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Peugeot 207.
bought harness with decoder from feedo seller.
chopped off the connector and soldered it to my hu connector
are you looking to do same?
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This is the harness I bought
Sdpuk2020 said:
Peugeot 207.
bought harness with decoder from feedo seller.
chopped off the connector and soldered it to my hu connector
are you looking to do same?
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What are you looking to do?
Sorry I was hoping you had found a way to make a maestro or other idatalink module work.
Hello...
Not sure if this is the correct forum for this or not so apologies.
I've just bought and installed a chinese Android Auto head unit into my Ford S Max. I think the unit is an XY Auto 3.1 8227L, nothing on the box but this is what is specced in the system info. I've purchased a Connects2 Canbus adapter to use with this so that i can retain steering controls etc.
Everything is all wired up correctly and working but I can't find Connects2 in the Canbus setup list or a Ford S Max under any of the other canbus manufacturers. Does anyone know how I can sort this out?
Other issue is that I no longer get my parking sensor beeps - does this go through the canbus as well?
Not fitted a aftermarket unit in years so no real experience with canbus setup.
Thanks
You need to have a look at the right forum... I asked a mod to move your posting to the right one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-head-units
I installed the Joying JY-BO124N3 Android head unit which works great. The problem I'm having is the car is displaying metric units on start up. To fix this, I have to go into the head unit settings and change to imperial/American units which will then display the correct units on the dash/climate control. The headunit itself always displays the correct Imperial units (mph, F, etc). I contacted the manufacturer who said it wasn't possible to permanently change through the head unit. The Eunavi Android head unit in my Toyota doesn't have this problem so I'm assuming the problem is with the BMW. Is there anyway I can permanently program/code out metric units so only Imperial information is displayed on my dash?
I did a review on the head unit and show this problem at 3:23:
hhttps://youtu.be/Qo9wvzU1L_s?t=203 (Delete the first 'h'. I can't post links on here yet)
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I installed the Joying JY-BO124N3 Android head unit which works great. The problem I'm having is the car is displaying metric units on start up. To fix this, I have to go into the head unit settings and change to imperial/American units which will then display the correct units on the dash/climate control. The headunit itself always displays the correct Imperial units (mph, F, etc). I contacted the manufacturer who said it wasn't possible to permanently change through the head unit. The Eunavi Android head unit in my Toyota doesn't have this problem so I'm assuming the problem is with the BMW. Is there anyway I can permanently program/code out metric units so only Imperial information is displayed on my dash?
I did a review on the head unit and show this problem at 3:23:
hhttps://youtu.be/Qo9wvzU1L_s?t=203 (Delete the first 'h'. I can't post links on here yet)
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Anyone?
I can’t help other than to say I had the same issue with my BMW E90 and an Eonon unit so it seems like this might be an E90 thing with these aftermarket head units?
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I can’t help other than to say I had the same issue with my BMW E90 and an Eonon unit so it seems like this might be an E90 thing with these aftermarket head units?
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Ah, thanks for the reply. This is super helpful. I'm just relieved to hear that someone (unfortunately) had the same issue as me. If my Joying and your Eonon are doing the same thing, then I can pretty much narrow down that it's on BMW's end.
Hi there. I searched (at least I tried for several hours without luck) this forum and the internet in general.
I have bought a ES8113M from Erisin (https://erisin.de/products/-655) with Android 10 preinstalled and a RN-SS-01 canbus decoder. The issue is that the steering wheel controller is not working. Does anyone have managed to connect the canbus of their Megane to the Android head unit?
Please tell me if you need more info. I am happy for every litte hint on PIN Layouts, factory setting, firmware upgrades or anything else.
Thanks in advance
What did seller suggest when contacted for support?
Is this an FYT based unit?
Thanks @marchnz for your quick reply and thereby help .
Support is poor. I asked two times over two different channels but did not get any answer yet.
Sorry to ask, I am new to Android head units. What do you mean FYT unit? Do you mean the MicroControlerUnit (MCU)-type? Then it's a S32F0 or LEIMA?
It says S32F0_LEIMA-W 20201020-17:05 HD1_7708_D_FF_C8
Oh I see you may ask because I posted to FYT Android head units. If this was wrong sorry and maybe a moderator will provide help and move to the appropriate sub forum (thanks).
@Badger50 thanks for moving this thread to the right forum. I hope someone still reads older (like in days ;-) threads and is able to help and or ask questions for me to better understand and hopefully solve my issue....
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@Badger50 thanks for moving this thread to the right forum. I hope someone still reads older (like in days ;-) threads and is able to help and or ask questions for me to better understand and hopefully solve my issue....
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Is there a possibility to connect the shown connector directly to the radio?
Did you get the right cable tree from the seller? Normally the CAN adapter is connected in between the car-cable tree and the radio.
Is this the right CAN adapter for this radio, provided by the radio seller?
Thank you @rigattoni for your reply. And yes, the Canbus-Decoder ist connected to the Megane on the one side (for power and canbus signal) and the radio (see pinout picture from erisin). I would confirm this as you say it's "normally". I think and hope I have the right harness. At least the QR code says for MEGANE 2 and the website / the seller state it is especially designed and adapted for the Megane 2 (https://erisin.de/products/erisin-e...wifi-4g-dvd-obd-canbus-swc-für-renault-megane).
I did some more digging and analising today. Here are the colors of the ISO-Adapter with the according functions as far as I could find out on the internet (First screenshot). I also compared the cables from the harness and the radio to the canbus adapter (second screenshot). And finally I checked the connections to the radio and the link from there to the canbus adapter again (third screenshot).
It would be nice if someone could confirm some functions and if especially the canbus connections from the harness are the same with your knowledge (at best from another Renault Megane CC2 driver ).
Also I am curious if someone can shre more intel on the canbus cables of a Megane convertible 2.
What if the wiring is fine. I measured 5V between RN-SS-01 PIN3 / PIN4 and GND. To me that makes sense for a canbus information channel... Lots of messages on high...
Can someone provide the correct parameters for the Android head unit? I did a factory reset, an android reset and a SD0 card wipe. Unfortunately the car settings and factory settings remain as I did set them during testing.
For the canbus type (in the factory settings) I think it was 0x00 OFF when I first installed it. I cannot select it from the "select your model" screen (see above, RN-SS-01 missing). But I can set it to 0x85 RENAULT MEGANE SP...
Any intel on what canbus type should work? And how can I test it? In the car settings there is a menu entry steering wheel settings... I did reset it during testing and now even if I press a button on the steering wheel control, nothing happens. I would assume it should pop up a message on which button recognized and ask for what to map it to...
Sorry I am a bloody n00b here....
Sorry for starting this thread, but I would like to finish it with an easy statement: My car hasn't CANBUS (because manufactured >>before 2005<<). So I needed to go with an analogue adapter.
After a very friendly and productive phone call with a German vendor I bought this one here:
https://www.niq.de/lenkradfernbedie...---Scenic---Trafic-Bj--Ab-2000-fuer-auna.html.
From there on very easy to install. Connect the ISO cables from the car to the ISO adapter from NIQ and the departing cables to the ISO connector from the ERISIN head unit. Additionally and to get the steering wheel control working I had to connect SWC1, SWC2 and GND from the NIQ-adapter to the head unit.
Thanks for everyone reading and helping. CASE_SOLVED
Hello, I ordered multimedia for megane 2 ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...020888279!sea!BG!0&curPageLogUid=eazK1RuTtlpe) but the can-bus decoder doesn't work, I ordered another one from another dealer but the coupler is smaller, is it possible to connect the wires to the new one. The new one is labeled "Megane 2" and I got it with cables but they don't fit...
Hey guys,
So I was interested in getting the Teyes CC3 head unit for my 2013 Accord EX-L that comes with dual screen. Teyes doesn’t offer compatibility with the trim of my car since it only supports the single screen model. But I came across the Ossuret head unit which is compatible with my car and was wondering if I could apply their canbus decoder onto the Teyes head unit or any canbus decoder from AliExpress onto the head unit. If you guys have any solution or information that would be a great help.
Similar question. Anyone ?
Why not asking Teyes if they support that specific CAN box?
They're selling an universal unit so that should be a legitimate question.
TorstenH said:
Why not asking Teyes if they support that specific CAN box?
They're selling an universal unit so that should be a legitimate question.
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I contacted them, but they just said custom harness. From my research though the accord uses BNR. No way for me to know till i try so hopefully when my harness comes it'll work.