Hi!
I don't really know the brand of the head unit I use, it says AJ002-OB at about section. I use Android Auto with HeadUnitReloaded. By default the head unit has a bluetooth call feature that brings up an overlay that completely blocks the screen making it unable to use while calling in progress. This also could be a reason to disable it, but since Android Auto has its own call feature, therefore I want to use that and only that. Can the default call feature somehow be disabled? Android Auto requires bluetooth audio connection to forward the call audio to the speakers, therefore disabling call feature on the phone makes android auto call feature useless as well.
Thank you!
S3nS3IW00 said:
Android Auto requires bluetooth audio connection to forward the call audio to the speakers, therefore disabling call feature on the phone makes android auto call feature useless as well.
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Disabling the Bluetooth app itself does not disable BT functionality, since BT is not integral to the Android OS in these Chinese headunits, as it is with a smartphone - the app's name is a slight misnomer. I have been using HUR and AA, with the headunit external car mic and steering wheel button to place a call or use GA, like this for 4 years, without the overlay coming up. If you ever need to pair your phone or a new one, you will need to enable the app again, since that facility is only available in this app. Similarly if the unit is completely rebooted as in saved factory settings, you will need to disable the Bluetooth app again to work with HUR/AA phone/voice - it reenables automatically - but it will stay disabled for the normal sleep cycle of these headunits.
I meant disabling the bluetooth audio feature on the phone itself, not the app. How can I disable the app? Because it is not in the list of apps in settings.
Cutprods said:
Disabling the Bluetooth app itself does not disable BT functionality, since BT is not integral to the Android OS in these Chinese headunits, as it is with a smartphone - the app's name is a slight misnomer. I have been using HUR and AA, with the headunit external car mic and steering wheel button to place a call or use GA, like this for 4 years, without the overlay coming up. If you ever need to pair your phone or a new one, you will need to enable the app again, since that facility is only available in this app. Similarly if the unit is completely rebooted as in saved factory settings, you will need to disable the Bluetooth app again to work with HUR/AA phone/voice - it reenables automatically - but it will stay disabled for the normal sleep cycle of these headunits.
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S3nS3IW00 said:
I meant disabling the bluetooth audio feature on the phone itself, not the app. How can I disable the app? Because it is not in the list of apps in settings.
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Android Auto only uses Bluetooth audio for phone calls, all other audio, is over either USB or Wifi. If you disable the car's Bluetooth, which is what you originally suggested, you will have no initial connection anyway besides not being able to handle calls over the car's HU, as AA needs that to fire up first. If you disable Bluetooth audio on your phone, which is possible through clicking the cog by your paired BT connection, again you will have no phone calls on the HU. You cannot disable the phone Bluetooth via apps, since as I explained it is part of the Android OS on smartphones - you can switch BT off - again you will have no connection/no calls for AA.
You asked about the phone app overlay I explained how to get rid of that - not factory settings at all - Android settings (on the car)>apps>Bluetooth>disable (as shown in the picture you attached). It sounds like you have something set up wrongly for HUR/AA. One other reason Bluetooth phone calls may not work over the car's speaker's/mic, is if Audio sink is disabled in HUR settings too, then the only way the audio could arrive to the HU is via BT and only the phone's mic would be recognised by AA - but I have never tried that. But I am slightly confused now by what you are trying to achieve and what is happening for you, I can only vouch that Headunit Reloaded and Android Auto work perfectly as they should, in the way I described in my car.
One other thing I should add with my PX5 HU, canbus mapping of my steering wheel mic button, fires the BT/Phone app and the overlay. Not only did I have to disable the car's Bluetooth app but I also had to use MTCDTools to send the HUR intent gb.xxy.hr.mic to the button, in order to fire both Google Assistant voice and phone with AA - no need for 'Hey Google'; no overlay; click mic button, GA is already listening in AA, then say "Navigate to; Call such and such; Play x on Spotify..." etc.
Cutprods said:
Android Auto only uses Bluetooth audio for phone calls, all other audio, is over either USB or Wifi. If you disable the car's Bluetooth, which is what you originally suggested, you will have no initial connection anyway besides not being able to handle calls over the car's HU, as AA needs that to fire up first. If you disable Bluetooth audio on your phone, which is possible through clicking the cog by your paired BT connection, again you will have no phone calls on the HU. You cannot disable the phone Bluetooth via apps, since as I explained it is part of the Android OS on smartphones - you can switch BT off - again you will have no connection/no calls for AA.
You asked about the phone app overlay I explained how to get rid of that - not factory settings at all - Android settings (on the car)>apps>Bluetooth>disable (as shown in the picture you attached). It sounds like you have something set up wrongly for HUR/AA. One other reason Bluetooth phone calls may not work over the car's speaker's/mic, is if Audio sink is disabled in HUR settings too, then the only way the audio could arrive to the HU is via BT and only the phone's mic would be recognised by AA - but I have never tried that. But I am slightly confused now by what you are trying to achieve and what is happening for you, I can only vouch that Headunit Reloaded and Android Auto work perfectly as they should, in the way I described in my car.
One other thing I should add with my PX5 HU, canbus mapping of my steering wheel mic button, fires the BT/Phone app and the overlay. Not only did I have to disable the car's Bluetooth app but I also had to use MTCDTools to send the HUR intent gb.xxy.hr.mic to the button, in order to fire both Google Assistant voice and phone with AA - no need for 'Hey Google'; no overlay; click mic button, GA is already listening in AA, then say "Navigate to; Call such and such; Play x on Spotify..." etc.
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So lets clear it out because as I see we misunderstand each other. I have an Android Headunit which I don't know the brand of. I use Android Auto with HeadUnit Reloaded through USB. I know, that Android Auto still needs bluetooth connection in order to make calls through car's speakers. My Headunit has its own call feature through bluetooth, that brings up an overlay that completely blocks the screen while calling is in progress no matter what is on the screen. It overlays Android Auto (so HeadUnitReloaded) and it covers the map as well that is not a good thing. Android Auto's call feature working simultaneously with the default call feature, so everything set up correctly. The only problem I want to solve is that I don't need the default overlay when I use Android Auto. The factory system is protected from developer settings and I cannot disable or uninstall any bloatware including bluetooth app.
S3nS3IW00 said:
So lets clear it out because as I see we misunderstand each other. I have an Android Headunit which I don't know the brand of. I use Android Auto with HeadUnit Reloaded through USB. I know, that Android Auto still needs bluetooth connection in order to make calls through car's speakers. My Headunit has its own call feature through bluetooth, that brings up an overlay that completely blocks the screen while calling is in progress no matter what is on the screen. It overlays Android Auto (so HeadUnitReloaded) and it covers the map as well that is not a good thing. Android Auto's call feature working simultaneously with the default call feature, so everything set up correctly. The only problem I want to solve is that I don't need the default overlay when I use Android Auto. The factory system is protected from developer settings and I cannot disable or uninstall any bloatware including bluetooth app.
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This is the third time now I have said how to get rid of the overlay over AA - it is the Bt/phone app (in the car head unit, not on the phone) disable it - I don't know I can be clearer than that, notwithstanding you've provided very little details of your headunit. If you can't disable this app, which is not 'bloatware' btw, then you have something very wrong with your system. You need to talk to the manufacturer, since every Android device, and absolutely just about all these head units will at least allow you to disable these apps.
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This is the third time now I have said how to get rid of the overlay over AA - it is the Bt/phone app disable it - I don't know I can be clearer than that, notwithstanding you've provided very little details of your headunit.
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But I cannot disable it, as the attached image shows. The brand of my headunit (according to model that is AJ002-OB) is maybe AMPrime but that is the only thing I know about it.
I'll try to get some technical help from the store I bought the headunit. It would be nice if the call feature could be disabled simply with a check.
Anyway, thanks for your help.
As I say, there is something wrong then with your rom and headunit - in order to achieve what you want, you will need to be able to disable and re-enable this app, for any new pairing, at will. I have never seen a Chinese Android head unit that won't allow this.
S3nS3IW00 said:
'll try to get some technical help from the store I bought the headunit. It would be nice if the call feature could be disabled simply with a check.
Anyway, thanks for your help.
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You're welcome! A simple check is the same as disabling the app, which is a 15 second job and you're only disabling an MCU interface app to the Bluetooth device - it's important that the BT still functions, fortunately it does when you are able to disable the app. Anyway I hope you get some help with your store - you most likely will have to update your rom and MCU. Once you get it sorted, if you invoke this BT/Phone app on your steering wheel mic button presently, which is usually the case with the canbus boxes that came with these devices, you will most likely (though not always, some already function and those units with SWC can easily be mapped) also have to send an intent as I described earlier, for AA to function correctly for GA/calls, from this button. I used MTCDTools for that but I believe Tasker could do the same.
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hi guys
new to the forum, hopefully someone will be able to help me
my unit has stock MTCC-KLD6-V2.97 Aug 02 2016 with a RK3188 and 1024x600 screen
Firstly the Bluetooth is not working, quite a lot of apps hang at the part where it try's to turn the BT on, especially one app i really need to work.
I honestly don't know what model of BT chip is installed in the head unit, apparently its BT 4.0 as listed on there website
I have been into the factory menu and changed the BT from WQ_BC6 to WQ_BC6B (as suggested somewhere in this forum) but it has made no change and the BT is still hanging at powering on.
Eonon have told me that the Bluetooth only work with devices that don't require a pin and the radar detector device i need to connect does not require a pin but still it does not work.
Not quite sure if eonon has set the setting wrong and i need to change it or i need to goto a custom rom or I need to pull the unit apart to find out.
Found someone else having trouble getting there ALPconnect app to work aswell on these units, in know ALPconnect wont work on older unit like the 4.4.4 as they only had BT 2.0 and the ALP BT only supports 4.0, but this android unit has 4.0 so it should not be a problem but it is.
sterod said:
The app I use, ALPConnect, does the exact same thing. Fortunately, the hardware on mine includes a hardwired speaker and GPS setup that work standalone. The benefit of the app was to get a nice big visual notification of a trap, as it would come into focus, duck the audio and play an alarm. It would also report the frequency of the radar and the type of laser hitting me. While I can get by without all that, I can't have the music blaring like I usually do, as the little speaker is only so loud and the Joying head unit doesn't have Mute Input wire to duck the audio.
While this is going slightly off topic, you may want to look into the AL Priority, it can interface with your V1 too and you will also gain laser protection. This thing has saved my a** countless times and paid for itself already many times over.
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Secondly the control menu in the android head unit for accessing the cars buttons via cambus does not work, all steering wheels button seem to communicate back and work, but i cannot set my clock on my mazda 3.
Also have noticed that the radio wont mute when notification occur or when using other apps like google maps, no way to set the different volumes in this stock rom. Have played around with the factory menu volumes but it makes no diffidence.
Is it viable and worth changing to a different ROM, like Malaysk? or should i message eonon?
any help would be much appreciated
thanks
shane
I'm having exactly the same issue with a Pumpkin MTCC-KLD6-V2.91. (RK3188/1024x600)
The device I want to pair with appears in Bluetooth settings (with a phone icon?) but connecting to it does nothing. It's just a Bluetooth SPP device, like so many other devices.
Malaysk's ROM (from 7/25) doesn't change anything here.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
-Zandr
zandrm said:
I'm having exactly the same issue with a Pumpkin MTCC-KLD6-V2.91. (RK3188/1024x600)
The device I want to pair with appears in Bluetooth settings (with a phone icon?) but connecting to it does nothing. It's just a Bluetooth SPP device, like so many other devices.
Malaysk's ROM (from 7/25) doesn't change anything here.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
-Zandr
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Waiting on a reply from Eonon, but initial news is not good.
Some serious BT issues in this model the MTCC
Anyone know if any Malaysk's Rom's avalable for the MTCC-KLD6-V2.91 that have no BT issues
I'm having the same issue, though my unit (MTCC KLD6) does not show any devices at all to pair with, and the car unit does not appear on my phone.
I'm wondering - if I take a usb BT dongle and attach it to the usb cable, would that work?
I think it might be another issue with your BT, it should connect to your phone at very least.
Have you had a look in your factory menu to see if the MCU has the Bluetooth option set?
Password for me was 126
Unfortunately the unit does not support external USB Bluetooth and probably never will, unless the manufacturer MTC/Klyde adds the required drivers to the unit or a Awesome developer by some stroke of luck here adds it to the unit. I doubt to see the feature in this unit
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, i checked to make sure Bluetooth was enabled in the system settings. I've tried a few of them (change setting, reboot, attempt pairing), i guess the next step is to try them all one by one to rule that out. I've sent an email to the seller to see if they have any ideas.
The vendor told me to connect the Key-1 & Key-2 wires from the canbus to the car, not sure why they'd think that would solve BT issues?
Did this fix the issue? I'm unable to see any Bluetooth devices and other Bluetooth devices don't see it.
Sorry to dig up an old thread
I have the Eonon GA2180a (android 10) - and having similar issues to here
I want to pair a bluetooth remote (read, steering wheel controls) to the head unit, but the bluetooth search just shows blank! I can connect to it using my phone but it appears some things are hidden to connect to with these android units? Looks like the bluetooth 'app' is the only way to connect too, theres nothing in the android settings to access a bluetooth menu or anything.
Did anyone get anywhere with this ?
cheers
Intro:
For many years I used to use 1 DIN headunit connected via BT with my android phone. Phone was nicely mounted in bracket hard fixed to the dashboard.
So, I was getting into the car, putting phone into the bracket, starting the car and phone was connecting BT with headunit automatically. Could do phone calls, playing music etc. in 10 secs. Done, finished. No extra configuration, setting up, pressing buttons...
If I needed to use Google Maps, I had to use the phone screen, but it was ok with me, just two clicks.
But... I've upgraded my car and I have to redo my car-audio-phone connectivity
And now..
I'm browsing the market of 2din android based headunits (HU) for a couple years now. They are getting better and better, having more and functions (too many?) etc. Are they not to complicated in daily using? I seen many YT videos where people showing many options of their HUs, but there is completely nothing about daily using.
I'm thinking to purchase one of the latest Joying 2DIN HU and connect it to my android phone via BT, but "The more I know, the more I know I don't know"
That should cover my phone calls and music needs, however I have some doubts I cannot find answers to:
1. Does HU will connect to my phone every time by itself (BT) once paired?
2. How do you Guys, use Google Maps? Screen-mirror (via wifi using phone's "external display" option) or preinstalled in HU Google Maps app?
If phone's mirror, can it be turn on by itself automatically to see my phone app on HU screen without getting into phone's settings?
If preinstalled app, how HU can connects to my Google account? Does it mean I need to buy extra SIM card? Or it can use my phone's data, if so, does it mean I have to go into phone's settings and create a hotspot?
3. DVR, again, does it can be turned on once HU is up by itself, or do I have to turn it on by myself? I hope it has the time loop feature like proper DVR cams do?
4. Parking camera, does it turn the camera on (and screen) once I put R gear on?
Does the latest headunits can be driver friendly or it's still to early and I expect too much?
Thank you for all your answers.:good:
I can speak for Joying (see footer):
1. Yes, it does. It does not show contact names (only numbers) right after start, but they appear after 1st call
2. I can not see any reason using screen mirror (or Android auto) on HU with Android 6+ - PlayMarket apps are almost all yours on HU. My Google account is accessible via WiFi hot spot (USB dongle (auto) or Phone - you have to start hotspot on it), I can pay for apps from HU.
3. Joying DVR does start automatically. It has some issues making additional files until GPS locks, but anyway "ends" still can be put together. One drawback - J.DVR only uses 20Gb on max allowed 32Gb card - too bad.
4. Reversing camera works properly if connected properly, everything is on screen when R gear is on, including dynamic parking lines.
And you certainly should read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74092359&postcount=3
But, still it's chinese, be prepared
Hi All,
I'm about to attempt to upgrade my Harley RoadGlide's radio.
REEAALLLY like the fact that it will be a all-in-one solution (GPS/Radio etc)
Here is the plan:
Joying 8.8" 4gb /32gb Android 8 unit
Adaptor for 1 DIN radio ( Harley factory is a off the wall size more like a 1-1/2 DIN )
Module to retain handlebar controls (Works like a steering one)
Marine amp (with the remote power on a manual switch so I can shut the speakers off)
Bluetooth transmitter to send music to headset if needed
Before anybody points out the obvious, yes I know the unit is not marine grade..
This leads me the my first question:
How much heat does the display generate?
I was thinking on taking the bezel off, wrapping the whole back in vinyl up and over the edge of the glass and then putting the bezel back on. This would seal the display part since there is not reset/mic/pwr holes in the glass..
Mating the display with the body will be thru a custom device with seals to prevent water getting in at the connectors.
As for the "main" body it is pretty much protected being in the fairing. I will need a heatsink/fan but I think it will be ok.
Now on the operational question:
Can a bluetooth headset be connected directly to the unit? (For listening to music)
Any tips/advice?
Anybody ever done this?
Thanks !
Ok.. just ordered the 8.8" single din 4gb model.
Was 25% off. Black Friday sale. What can go wrong ??
Good thing about that model is that it is solid glass.. no reset/mic holes.. should make it easier to weatherproof.
The fun will begin when the unit gets here.
Lots of config/testing to do before I shoehorn that puppy in the bike.
I'll post pics if people are interested.
Been testing a couple of GPS apps on my tablet right now ahead of the integration and so far Sygic and Osmand are the best I found. Following a preplanned route is a must( ie to not deviate from the plan) , so if anybody has insight please point me in the right direction ?
Patiently awaiting the arrival of the unit...
The beast is here!!
Just received my unit ?
Got to say it is very well packaged
Will setup and start the testing soon.
Stoked!!!!!
Update/ Questions
Hi All,
Well.. the testing is going well.
So far i am able to get all my music audio to the Bluetooth headset by using a transmitter connected to the RCA output.
I had to use an external USB power for the dongle because the transmitter is "recognized" as a USB keyboard by Joying
I am using the soft button on the unit to turn the amp on/off when I want to use the headset.
I am able to use ZLink as well to connect the phone to the unit.
To have the headset capability for phone, I need to have the headset paired with the headset first.
Then I connect the phone to the unit using ZLink/Android Auto on 1 USB input
I can use the radio's display to control the phone and make calls.
All audio/mic is done by the headset. Yeah!
Only 1 problem.. The Joying keeps on wanting to connect Bluetooth to the phone.. Pops a request every so often..
Any way of turning this off? Only happens when Zlink is active...
If I connect the radio to the phone, it kicks the headset off...
Any way to disable Bluetooth entirely on the unit?
Unit is now rooted and I have installed JET.
Waiting for my handlebar controls converter in order to test "steering" functions.
Cheers!
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Any way to disable Bluetooth entirely on the unit?
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Can't you do that from the settings? Simply switch off Bluetooth?
Or is that when Joying keeps nagging to switch on Bluetooth? ("wanting to connect" can mean to connect because BT is active, or first wanting to switch it on and then connect)
I tried..
The Zlink app automatically turns bluetooth on I believe.
The bluetooth is off in my Joying settings.
It only happens when the Zlink window is "active"
So when I first connect I press cancel on my phone when the request comes in.
All good until I minimize the windows then re-activate it. Then another request comes in from the Joying unit...
I tried to disable the bluetooth in the app settings and Zlink refuses to open.
There is no "access to bluetooth" in the Zlink app settings..
Really more of an annoyance then anything else as I can just cancel the request...
Would really be nice to have some decent bluetooth settings on the unit to be able to connect any devices or change settings.
Or have some ZLink settings to not start bluetooth on demand since it's already been taken care of by the headset...
Thanks for the suggestion
Cheers,
Problem solved! Android Auto using headset instead of Radio for audio
Hi have solved the problem of Bluetooth wanting to connect all the time.
Solution: First time the popup comes in on the phone when connecting USB to the radio (I used Headunit Reloaded but ZLink should be the same), accept and enter proper password (0000)
Once connected, on the phone Bluetooth settings change Joying Radio to No Phone, No Media.
The next time it will not ask to connect and won't kick out the other Bluetooth (Headset)
Android Auto has to be in developers mode to not care which Bluetooth it is using:
To enable it, open the Android Auto app on your phone and choose About from the left menu. Tap the About Android Auto header text about 10 times and you'll see a prompt to enable developer options. Accept it, then hit the three-dot Menu button and choose Developer settings-> Application mode "Developer"
On to the next challenge!
Cheers!
This sounds interesting. Any pics on the install?
Yes pics please, what are doing are weather proofing the head unit or are you a fair weather rider
Hi all,
I have a PX6 for a BMW (from AliExpress - model CCT-BBA22B07) and i've been trying to figure out how to enable and use the bluetooth for more than phone calls and media streaming. I want to connect it to a bluetooth ODB2 device.
The PX6 seems to use some of the original headunit's functions and along with some of its own Android features and functions. For example, i can use the original HU for FM radio, CD, Bluetooth for phone calls, etc. while using the Android for other functions like navigation (and any other android app i can think of).
So i ignored the Android bluetooth for the phone and continued using the original HU bluetooth. However, i've been trying to use the Android Bluetooth for ODB2. I've bought a bluetooth dongle (CSR 4.0 usb dongle) hoping that the PX6 will detect it. However, i can't seem to switch on the Bluetooth on the settings. depending on the Bluetooth App i use, it immediately switches off (1ms on, next millisecond off), or it gives an error saying "permission denied"
I tried telling the PX6 to use the Android Bluetooth instead of the HU bluetooth, just to see if the "Factory settings app" prevents control of the Bluetooth, but i can't find the Android bluetooth on my phone (i'm contacting the seller regarding this).
So now that you have the background, basically, i want to continue using my original HU bluetooth for the phone, and i want to have a full featured Bluetooth on the Android device (like a tablet would have). Any ideas on how this is possible? I'm hoping there's no need to strip the screen and remove electronic components from the PC boards?
wow, I have a similar issue, I am suprised NOONE knows anything. xtrons sucks for support
I have a 2020 Chevrolet car with the MyLink system which supports wired Android Auto and Carplay. I currently run Android Auto on my unrooted Galaxy S7 and connect using USB. The main problem with this is I use some driving aid apps that AA doesn't support (radar detector app, OBD app, GasBuddy, etc.) so I've been using Screen2Auto to run these. But I'm tired of the glitches and cat and mouse games Google plays with blocking unauthorized apps.
Basically, these units use the Carplay interface to mirror Android apps, correct? (BTW, what does AI stand for?)
I'd want the system to work just like it does now with my Android phone with the exception of it being reliable and I'd like to just drop my phone into the wireless charger and go. Is this feasible?
I don't want a separate cell plan for the box, I want to use my phone's hotspot.
My Bluetooth radar detector and OBD adapter needs to be able to connect to the box.
I want my steering wheel controls (mainly, the button push to get Google Assistant) to work; and I want to use the car's microphone and GPS.
When Google Assistant finds a phone number, I want to be able to select it and make a call.
Can all this be done? If so, which boxes will support this?
Thanks
maybe you can check this https://carlinkitcarplay.com/produc...i-box-adapter-for-oem-wired-carplay-cars-1122 I saw this from another post, it seems it can convert your car screen to an android tablet.