I have just bought an Archos 101 16gb and downloaded just a few small apps.
I got a "Low on Space" notification today....but i cant understand why. Under /settings/staorage in shows under "Internal Storage" total space 14.44GB and available space 14.15GB.
I dont have an SD card yet
On system storage it says Avaialable space 25.25MB
Can someone help me understand whats going on here. Whats the differnce between Internal Storage and System storage and where do apps get stored by default....
Many thanks
Hey Pete,
System Storage is storage for apps that you can't put on internal storage or and SD card. Now, in order for you to only have 25mb free, you must have put a lot of data on there as well. I have a whole boatload of apps on my system and still have 162mb free on system storage (most are not on the SD). If you were to think of system storage in computer terms, it would be like RAM memory.
Internal storage is the storage where you put your data. Think of this storage as your "hard drive."
The next storage is, of course, the SD card. This is another place to store your data.
Finally, there is external storage. This is for things like flash drives and external hard drives.
By default apps load to the system storage area. You can go into your system preferences and move some to SD once you get an SD...but seriously, something else is at work for you to only have 25mb free right now.
ExploreMN said:
Hey Pete,
System Storage is storage for apps that you can't put on internal storage or and SD card. Now, in order for you to only have 25mb free, you must have put a lot of data on there as well. I have a whole boatload of apps on my system and still have 162mb free on system storage (most are not on the SD). If you were to think of system storage in computer terms, it would be like RAM memory.
Internal storage is the storage where you put your data. Think of this storage as your "hard drive."
The next storage is, of course, the SD card. This is another place to store your data.
Finally, there is external storage. This is for things like flash drives and external hard drives.
By default apps load to the system storage area. You can go into your system preferences and move some to SD once you get an SD...but seriously, something else is at work for you to only have 25mb free right now.
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Thank you that. Really helpful. So on my internal storage or "Hard Drive" I just have two apps, Aldiko and World Newspapers, totally 9mb.....
I had a look under /manage applications/downloaded and their is the AppsLib icon with 120MB next to it. That cant be right surely. This is just the Archos AppsLib app..... The MArket app is only 2.89 MB. If I look at the Application Infor for AppsLib under storage it says Total 120MB, Application 1MB and Data 119MB. What is this 119MB???
Also how do I set up storage preferences and what should they be.
Many thanks
OK, sotday the problem has changed. The missing 119MB of System storage has re-appeared. It seems that the AppsLib app which had shown 119MB of data cleared itself before I could uninstall it. No Idea why it had created 119MB of data in the first place.
So, can someone explain this for me. Not sure Im upto spead with this whole storage regime yet :-(
under /settings/storage "System Storage" was showing 119MB available.
I then downloaded Angry Birds (1.87 MB) and Angry Birds Seasons (1.99MB). Then checking /settings/storage "System Storage" now shows 104MB.
Next checking /settings/applications/manage applications and then clicking the "On Internal Strorage" tab I see the two Angry Birds apps there on Internal Strorage.
So my question is how come my "System Storage" has gone down by 15MB when the two apps only add up to less than 4MB. But, as manage apps shows them on the internal storage i.e. my 16gb storage, why did my system storage available space change at all. I'm very confused........
Update. I just checed AppsLib under /settings/applications/manage applications and its showing under application infor "Stroage" Total 41.46MB, Appkication 1.0MB and Data 40.46 MB. Whats going on here. What is the 40.46MB of data made up of. Its eating my System Storage.....Why?
Pete917 said:
Update. I just checed AppsLib under /settings/applications/manage applications and its showing under application infor "Stroage" Total 41.46MB, Appkication 1.0MB and Data 40.46 MB. Whats going on here. What is the 40.46MB of data made up of. Its eating my System Storage.....Why?
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have you installed Dolphin Browser HD or something similar?
In the options you can set cache to write into System Storage....
You should set the option to write cache into sdcard instead!!
Remember first to delete all caches...
I don't know if in the standard browser there is a similar option...
Honestly Pete, I have no idea what to tell you. I mean I'm not doing anything special and I have about 60 apps installed and still have 120mb of system storage, about 5gb of my 8gb internal storage and my 8gb SD card is maxed out with movies, music, documents, and some e-books I'm reading.
I have angry birds (not seasons...not feeling Christmas at the moment) and several other games as well.
I haven't done anything with the apps other than hit the "install" button. I know there are a lot I can move to SD, but since I don't need to I haven't.
The system memory does jump around though. As you use applications, load and unload, etc. Try using Archos's task manager to stop all apps, wait like 10 seconds (1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus type 10 seconds...) , then check your storage. I bet that might be the issue. Hell, it almost has to be!
ExploreMN said:
Honestly Pete, I have no idea what to tell you. I mean I'm not doing anything special and I have about 60 apps installed and still have 120mb of system storage, about 5gb of my 8gb internal storage and my 8gb SD card is maxed out with movies, music, documents, and some e-books I'm reading.
I have angry birds (not seasons...not feeling Christmas at the moment) and several other games as well.
I haven't done anything with the apps other than hit the "install" button. I know there are a lot I can move to SD, but since I don't need to I haven't.
The system memory does jump around though. As you use applications, load and unload, etc. Try using Archos's task manager to stop all apps, wait like 10 seconds (1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus type 10 seconds...) , then check your storage. I bet that might be the issue. Hell, it almost has to be!
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Thankyou. I think Im getting there. I noticed that in /settings/apps/manage apps the Archos AppsLib was showing 120MB. Weird I thought. So looking that the App Info for it said App 1MB data 119MB.
So I have uninstalled, re-booted and then sideloaded the latest build of AppsLib from Arcos. No App Info shows 1MB. Magically Angry Birds re-appeared too ...
This sounds like it has something to do with the problem and I now have to keep an eye on AppsLib to make sure it doesnt start eating System Storage Again.....
This seems very unusual to me. Maybe something is coded incorrectly by Archos in their latest release of AppsLib. Can others please tell me what amount of Data AppsLib has created on their devices? Thanks.
I havent got an external SD card yet, so I think that's going to be a must. Whats the biggest SD card that it can take? 32GB???
I should maybe also get Apps2SD. There seems a few versions out there. Who's the author of the one everyone here has loaded?
My appslib is 0.93mb of that, only .02mb is the data part.
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My appslib is 0.93mb of that, only .02mb is the data part.
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Thanks. Mine is curretly 1.05MB. The data part being 0,05MB. I'll keep an eye on it now I have re-installed to make sure it doesnt creep up again. What version are you running?
the most recent one.
Im still having problems in thw whole storage and could do with some help.
The System Storage is listed as 299.44mb available when I look in App2sd. It shows I have 86.29mb available.
Using App 2 SD it shows the list of immovable apps on the System Storage. When I add up their indivdiual file sizes it comes to 65.919mb.
So where is the other 147.23mb gone?
Is System Storage where the Android OS sits? If so would that account for 147mb?
Many thanks Guys.
Pete917 said:
Im still having problems in thw whole storage and could do with some help.
The System Storage is listed as 299.44mb available when I look in App2sd. It shows I have 86.29mb available.
Using App 2 SD it shows the list of immovable apps on the System Storage. When I add up their indivdiual file sizes it comes to 65.919mb.
So where is the other 147.23mb gone?
Is System Storage where the Android OS sits? If so would that account for 147mb?
Many thanks Guys.
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No, the OS is on a different partition, specifically a mounted squashfs. There will always be more data on the /data partition(System Storage) than is listed in the Applications menu. Keep in mind all the System Apps (ones you didn't install) will still need to store databases, settings, etc. on the /data partition, because the OS partition is read only.
147mb seems like alot, but my Archos has about the same amount of storage available(~86mb), and I have about the same amount of installed apps(~65mb), so I guess it's right.
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No, the OS is on a different partition, specifically a mounted squashfs. There will always be more data on the /data partition(System Storage) than is listed in the Applications menu. Keep in mind all the System Apps (ones you didn't install) will still need to store databases, settings, etc. on the /data partition, because the OS partition is read only.
147mb seems like alot, but my Archos has about the same amount of storage available(~86mb), and I have about the same amount of installed apps(~65mb), so I guess it's right.
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Thank you for answering that. I thought i was going nuts loomlking fot the missing storage
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Thank you for answering that. I thought i was going nuts loomlking fot the missing storage
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No problem. I never really did the math, but it seems like an awful lot is used by non-download apps. I may have to do some crawling through the file system to see what's using so much.
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No problem. I never really did the math, but it seems like an awful lot is used by non-download apps. I may have to do some crawling through the file system to see what's using so much.
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If you discover anything please let me know. 147mb seems a lot to have gone missing
I contacted Archos support and they gave this answer:
"Dear Customer,
The information given by the 3thd party software is not correct, we do not support 3thrd part software.
Kind Regards,
Archos Technical Support"
So they are not helpful at all. Given the amount of money we pay for these devices you'd think they wouldnt just dissmiss my request for support and perhaps try and help even a little bit....
Do you both think that an operatingsystem can run without any memoryneeds?
Android is build for small memory devices but it still needs some memory or all that ui, threading, file and other services.
It is a bare Linux which consumes around 100MB depending on the features you have installed/switched on.
Hello,
an error popped up on my a500, claiming internal storage is almost full. When I press the popup I'm taken to a list of apps where the title claims the same (applications using 12.25GB of 16GB). But I have only downloaded say 20 apps, and when I sum up the space they occupy individualy I don't count any further than <200MB. What can be wrong here? Does media files which belongs to the apps (say NFS game) don't count?
thanks for any help.
Henrik
I have the same problem. Posted here a few days ago. This is a known problem on the zoom as well. No one knows what the cause is so what I did was reset the tablet. :-(
that's a bad problem
try to check with file manager if you see some weird data... inside your tablet.
Also have this problem. Apps showing almost 8GB, which is impossible. Same amount of apps on my Xperia X10, and my internal storage still has plenty of space.
Saw this when I manually upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.1. Before and after, the app usage still shows almost 8gb.
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Also have this problem. Apps showing almost 8GB, which is impossible. Same amount of apps on my Xperia X10, and my internal storage still has plenty of space.
Saw this when I manually upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.1. Before and after, the app usage still shows almost 8gb.
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I found out once when I was messing with my tablet that you have an additional setting when you go to manage apps screen. There is also the USB storage section which doesn't get erased when you remove an app so you should not only check how many apps are installed but also if one of the apps uses a big amount of USB storage (like youtube or browser).
Look for very large (or very many medium- to -large) files in /data/tombstones. Best I can tell these files are storage from crashed apps; I've never had any problems arise when I removed them.
For some reason this folder doesn't show when using File Manager HD, so you may need to use Root Explorer (I uninstalled ES File Manager so not sure if it shows up there.)
I'm not rooted, completely stock 4.1.1.
I have a persistent "Storage space running out, some system functions may not work" notification, even though the storage settings page (pics 1-2) says I have plenty of space in both my internal storage and SD card. When I go to the manage apps page (3rd pic), though, it gives a different story, which is weird. I also can't download or update apps.
I did some searching and apparently this problem has happened to other people on other phones, particularly samsungs it seems like.
One person suggested using the DiskUsage app to find out what's taking up space. I tried to download it, and it said I had insufficient storage available, even though it's a 155 kb application. I deleted Skype, which is ~24 MB, and I still couldn't download the app because of "insufficient storage." Restarting the phone did nothing.
It seems like this has been happening on and off for a while, but I don't think I've tried to install any new apps recently and I've just ignored the failed updates. I can't remember exactly when it started, or anything I might have done differently around that time.
Any ideas?
That can happen when there's junk in your cache partition as well.. like rogue .apk's. I'd try to clean your cache partition first.
So I hooked it up to my computer and manually went through folders to find out where the space was being taken up. Turns out it was my podcast app (Acast). There was a gig or so of podcasts saved on the internal storage that didn't show up as being related to apps or anything.
Hmm, really wierd. I just noticed today something unexpected happened. In the app manager under downloaded, it says device memory is 8.1GB free. But under storage it says avail space 6.3GB free. So which is right? I installed like 4 apps today and there's not any that would use anywhere close to 2GB. not sure if some apps screw this up. Any idea what I should do?
Also under storage, misc section it says 1.7GB used but clicking on it doesn't show anything using more than a few hundred kb.
Edit: well, i finally found the culprit. I went to application manager and click on the recent apps I used today. the google drive cache shows 1.6GB. cleared that cache restores the free space in storage to the expected 8GB.
It's crazy about these things. How the hell did google drive cache get to 1.6GB? I justed installed that today and just used it one time to upload a 400MB video file to the cloud.... This really put a bad taste to start out. Think i might just have to uninstall it.. HAd to go into google drive and did a clear cache and set cache to 25 mb.
Also went into \Phone\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.docs\files\pinned_docs_files_do_not_edit folder. deleted the .thumbnail file that was 400MB and created a dummy file with same name to prevent android from recreating this file. Gallery browsing still works afterward, possibly slower but who fcking care if it would take 5 more secs to load my images if this can prevent massive built up of this file eventually.
Under the misc files section in storage, it still says 500MB. Would be nice to be able to clean out even more. Anyone can share some more tips for cleaning out these kind of garbage comsumming space?
My Nexus 4 shows 550MB space available yet when I try an update any of the larger Play Store App updates ( Firefox, Chrome Browser, etc) which are about 30MB they fail for lack of space. Generally I find something to delete to make a bit more space and can get the update to work, but its tedious.
Is the issue that the 550 is mainly reflecting SD emulated space, and the the updates want "internal " storage. even though its all physically internal? How do I find out what actual space is available for updates?
If you can download and install from play store : Fix Me Storage ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TWP.Project.Fixes.FS.IS) and fix permission and ownership.
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If you can download and install from play store : Fix Me Storage ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TWP.Project.Fixes.FS.IS) and fix permission and ownership.
That wasn't it. I checked /data/app-lib manually and there were no permission or ownership errors. I also ran the app for the heck of it, which of course made no difference.
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kmandel said:
dito33 said:
If you can download and install from play store : Fix Me Storage ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TWP.Project.Fixes.FS.IS) and fix permission and ownership.
That wasn't it. I checked /data/app-lib manually and there were no permission or ownership errors. I also ran the app for the heck of it, which of course made no difference.
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From what I know, it won't let you because you only have 500mb left. Use this app, Disk Usage. Scan /Data with root permission for the most accurate results to see what's taking up the storage of your phone :good:
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