Hi,
i have a head unit (TS10) which actually works quite nicely. Its supposedly an octa-core unit (6GB/128GB version) that runs "Android 12" (i suspect that it would be version 10 irl, but anyhow...)
One thing that bothers me a bit is that this unit (or the software on it) is that the radio app (com.tw.radio.Radio) does not support radio text. I have tried other options (the navradio+) which doesn't support it either (it seems).
My previous unit (which was a cheap yt9213aj unit) DID support it. Am i doing something wrong here or does these TS10 units simply not support it?
TS10 support RDS text! And NavRadio running on TS10 support it too.
Why are you saying that?
RDS text depend mostly on the radio stations broadcasts.
If your unit receive the RDS station name then it can receive also the text.
In some countries the text is not sent in the correct field and everything is sent in the RDS name field sequentially.
That's what is called "LiveRDS".
Most of USA radio stations adopt this LiveRDS method.
In Poland is very common too.
Hey KoTiX2,
Maybe its me doing something very wrong here, but i can't get it to work whatever i try. On my old unit, i could alway see the current song/artist, etc in the particular portion of the screen (just beneath the station name) but on this unit, i can't really capture anything. I have tried to enable all/any option available in the menus but to no avail (unfortunately).
I think i have seen fragments of the same question here on this forum where other TS10 users have asked the same thing (and i need to find them again and link for reference). But in general, is there something specific that needs to be enabled for this to work? When i saw (IRL) my old yt9213aj having the support for it (and later on, reading up on how "funky" the implementation actually was for this particular family of units), i started to have my doubts.
(again, idk what is supposed to work and what is not, which is why i'm asking this perhaps daft question)
And please take my question the right way. I see that you are the author of navradio+ which is (imho) a superb application for radio (its rather brilliant tbh - clean interface and well laid out). Of course it could just be my own setup / configuration that is wrong in this case. I simply can't tell.
Check if you have RDS on, it's in the settings: config info. It also depends on what radio module you have, some do not support RDS, for example Phillips (NXP) TEF6851 is without RDS. Or there is an error in the firmware, someone was helped by an update. Your thread is here, try searching:
New TS10 UIS7862 6gb ram 128gb head unit q&a's
So I bit the bullet and bought myself this head unit: https://a.aliexpress.com/_9JZiHu Ad stated that unit is 4gb ts8, but unit shipped and arrived is 6gb TS10. Plugged everything up unit works nice and smooth as expected, but one seriously...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thx Pavel-71, i'll search that thread and/or post there
The unit reports that it has a TDA7708 radio module on-board and when looking at spec-sheets for this module, it should really support this properly. Maybe it is what KoTiX2 mentions above that they store the data in the wrong field (essentially hiding it from view).
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I've bought an Android audio system form AVIAN for my car and it stopped working, the company replace it with another head unit (it might be PX5-W211 but I'm not sure) without any documentation at all (not even in theirs sight). I don't have any information about the head unit and the company don't answer my mails. I've asked in Mercedes forum and some one suggest i can use Malaysk ROMs Lollipop 5.1.1. Does anyone have an idea how can I find the hardware type and what ROM version?
1. The AVIAN support said: "We can replace the unit with our new Android 511 Quad core unit for you. This is newer hardware and software. https://avinusa.com/mercedes-benz-e-...w211-w219.html".
2. in the link you can see its Model: PX5-W211 (Android 6.0 Marshmallow GPS Navigation System Octa core CPU (8Core) 2GB RAM memory 32GB internal storage)
3. In the system print screen appears:
"MCU version MTCD_LM_V2.22_1" (from Feb 21 2017)
Android version 5.1.1
Kernel version 3.0.101
What I'd like to have is:
-A good CD player, what i have now is a crappy application, all you can do is: Enter/Exit folder, play/stop, forward and backward. I couldn't find a way to display the tracks names and move to a selected track (when you have 50+ folders and sub folders its a must)
-Enable other android program can access the CD
-BT Tethering.
-Reconfigure some of the hard buttons
Thanks in advance, Haim.
haim_gds said:
I've bought an Android audio system form AVIAN for my car and it stopped working, the company replace it with another head unit (it might be PX5-W211 but I'm not sure) without any documentation at all (not even in theirs sight). I don't have any information about the head unit and the company don't answer my mails. I've asked in Mercedes forum and some one suggest i can use Malaysk ROMs Lollipop 5.1.1. Does anyone have an idea how can I find the hardware type and what ROM version?
1. The AVIAN support said: "We can replace the unit with our new Android 511 Quad core unit for you. This is newer hardware and software. https://avinusa.com/mercedes-benz-e-...w211-w219.html".
2. in the link you can see its Model: PX5-W211 (Android 6.0 Marshmallow GPS Navigation System Octa core CPU (8Core) 2GB RAM memory 32GB internal storage)
3. In the system print screen appears:
"MCU version MTCD_LM_V2.22_1" (from Feb 21 2017)
Android version 5.1.1
Kernel version 3.0.101
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The new one appears to be a MTCD PX5 system, which is a nice unit and well supported with Malaysk ROMs and other cool tweaks and apps. I just got one for myself and I am very happy with it. These fora have a whole section on MTCD units. Just to make sure, what does Droid Hardware Info say about the CPU?
haim_gds said:
What I'd like to have is:
-A good CD player, what i have now is a crappy application, all you can do is: Enter/Exit folder, play/stop, forward and backward. I couldn't find a way to display the tracks names and move to a selected track (when you have 50+ folders and sub folders its a must)
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Don't hold you breath, most (all?) MCU apps on these units tend to be sub-par. I am not aware of any nicer replacement app for CD playback, with the reservation that I do not use CDs so I have tried nothing of sorts myself.
haim_gds said:
-Enable other android program can access the CD
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As far as I know this is impossible. The CD is managed by the MCU rather than the OS.
haim_gds said:
-BT Tethering.
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Not possible (as far as I know). Once more, the BT module is managed by the MCU rather than the OS. It might be possible to use an external (USB) BT dongle; I have seen reports of this working (but I forgot where...).
haim_gds said:
-Reconfigure some of the hard buttons
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That should be possible in Malaysk ROMs as well as with third-party apps such as MtcdTools.
Thank you very much sbruda.
I've attached the pictures from Droid Hardware Info
You said "The new one appears to be a MTCD PX5 system", do you mean the system called PX5-W211?
Should I use a special Malaysk ROMs for my radio? (Because it should support Mercedes W211 CAN Bus communication.)
Thanks again
haim_gds said:
I've attached the pictures from Droid Hardware Info
You said "The new one appears to be a MTCD PX5 system", do you mean the system called PX5-W211?
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Sorry, I got a bit confused by which is one system and which is the other. So:
The one that says "MCU version MTCD_LM_V2.22_1" is an MTCD system, which is great. I am assuming that this is your current system on which you just ran Droid Hardware Info. If so, then the system is an RK3188 rather than PX5 system. It is still well supported by the community. The CPU is a bit slow by today's standards but it may serve your needs (depending on what you plan to do with it). Heck, I have right now in my car an RK3066-based unit (even older and even slower) and it works very well (navigation + Torque + media).
PX5 (aka RK3368) is the latest and greatest from Rockchip and by the name and specs I infer that this is inside the PX5-W211 you mention. I have no way of knowing whether it is still an MTCD unit or something else, so if you are contemplating it you should ask AVIN directly. The PX5 unit is more competent and up to date.
If I were you, I would go like this: If the vendor will replace the current unit with the PX5-W211 free of charge (or at a charge you don't mind) and if said PX5-W211 is also an MTCD unit then I will definitely go for that; I have nothing to loose. If on the other hand the PX5-W211 is not desirable (not an MTCD and/or costs too much money) then I will give the current unit a spin with the Malaysk ROM before exchanging it and see if that satisfies my needs.
Why do I keep mentioning MTCD you ask? Because this MTCD (and MTCB) units have by far the best community support. I would personally not purchase anything else (I tried not long ago and it was not a good experience). Community support is very important because most of the time this is all the support you will ever get; indeed, most vendors are clueless and will provide no support for the OS. In addition, there are several extra things that have been implemented by the community but not by the stock OS provided by the vendor. Mapping buttons to custom actions (which you mentioned in your first post) is one of them.
haim_gds said:
Should I use a special Malaysk ROMs for my radio? (Because it should support Mercedes W211 CAN Bus communication.)
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You should definitely give it a try. I cannot guarantee but I am pretty sure that you will be pleasantly surprised. Unfortunately I cannot vouch for CAN bus integration (as I never used it) but again I am pretty sure that this will work at least as well as in the original OS.
Thank you sbruda.
I don't think I'm going to upgrade the FW, I have had it with AVIAN crap. I''ll keep it as it now until i got system.
Thanks for the help anyway.
Haim
I installed two different models of Joyings newest PX5-based head units. Both are the 7 inch screen 4GB RAM / 32GB flash double DIN model with flat buttons on the left edge.
Please note that as of May 2018, there appear to be multiple new 4GB / 32GB Joying head units have different internal hardware and are not compatible with each other or with the PX5 2GB Joying head units.
JY-UM128N4PX5 is a QD unit
JY-UO128P4 appears to be an FYT unit
Buyer beware. My recommendation is AVOID the QD based units and seek out the FYT units.
See below for more details.
The following information is for JY-UM128N4PX5. Further down the page is information for JY-UO128P4.
=============== JY-UM128N4PX5 =================
Came with Android 8.0.0 installed.
APP Version TP6735 0.0.65
MCU Version TP6735 4.40
Kernel Version 4.4.103
Master password:126
Password for changing logo:0000
Password for changing UI:8086
So far I have noticed the following:
The unit does not trigger the amplifier turn on signal wire - the orange and black wire labeled AMP-CONT always measures zero volts on my voltmeter. Workaround is to use either the antenna signal wire, or the ACC power signal wire, to turn on your amp. Joying is aware of this issue.
Sleep does not work. The unit shuts down completely about one minute after you turn off the vehicle's ignition. It doesn't sleep and then come back on instantly like my Intel-based Joying unit. Boot time is about 20 seconds. Joying support now says that sleep is not supported on the QD units.
I cannot find the radio settings in the new radio app. You used to be able to slide the bar at the bottom of the radio app to get to settings. Now in Android 8, there are a couple of radio settings that have been moved to the main android setup dialog.
Some of the functionality of the former car settings app has been moved to the android settings dialog. But not everything is there - for example this is where I was looking for the ability to tell the unit to toggle the amplifier signal wire. I could not find any such setting.
AM radio reception is non-existent - static on all AM channels.
FM reception is good, but I cannot figure out how to get the FM Radio to enable display of song and station information - this used to be under RDS settings, which no longer exist.
Bluetooth calling works fine. Seems more stable than my older Intel-based unit.
Sound quality is good - I am using an external amplifier.
The logo set up is missing Porsche and Saab Logos. My Intel-based Joying unit had these. Easy enough to load my own custom logo.
The unit ships with Joying's "Launcher3" selected. On the home screen, the labels of the bottom row of icons are cut off. The screenshots on Joying's website show the same thing. The joying2 launcher is missing.
If you reflash the unit, the vertical keypad on the left side of the unit gets un-mapped and stops working. Fix is to go into car settings and remap it.
========================= JY-UO128P4 ==================
Android Version 8.0.0
Build Number px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007
System Info APP 1024x600 2018-04-27 21:42:36
MCU Version 2018-01-23 10:59:33 JY_(R68)_R-86C-096I-NC-NP-1.0-P12S
Passwords:
Factory settings: 3368
Developer Options: 3368
Reset: 3368
Password for changing Launcher:8086
Password for changing screen current:
So far I have noticed the following:
The software on the JY-UO128P4 is very close to that of my older Joying Intel based system.
The developer has replaced all of the system settings screens native to android with their own settings screens. Not super cool. All of the car settings and android system setting are now intermingled.
Upon unboxing, the JY-UO128P4 has only a single Wifi antenna wheras the JY-UM128N4PX5 had two (diversity) wifi antennas. I have not tried to compare reception differences.
The amplifier turn on signal now works as expected (AMP-CONT wire correctly signals 12V when unit is active)
Sleep works as expected
AM radio reception works weakly.
The FM radio application works as expected. Radio app settings are accessed within the radio app. It's possible to enable RDS for song and station ID within the radio app.
All of the joying launchers are available - I prefer launcher 02 and it's available on this unit.
Many more car logos are available on the system. Porsche logo was built-in.
The only things I've noticed so far that are worse with the JY-UO128P4 than the JY-UM128N4PX5
The unit suffers from the android 8.0 bug on Joying where all of your google contacts are deleted if you allow your account on the head unit to sync contacts with google.
As noted above - the native android settings panels are all removed.
The app for setting the color of the buttons on the side panel is limited to pre-determined solid colors - yellow, white, red green etc. On the JY-UM128N4PX5 you could select and set any RGB color, which made it possible to match the button illumination to your other dashboard lights.
As I learn more, I will post more.
ddruker said:
I just installed Joying's newest PX5 head unit. It's the 4GB model.
It came with Android 8.0.0 installed.
APP Version TP6735 0.0.65
MCU Version TP6735 4.40
Kernel Version 4.4.103
So far I have noticed the following problems:
The unit does not trigger the amplifier turn on signal wire - the orange and black wire labeled AMP-CONT always measures zero volts on my voltmeter. Workaround is to use either the antenna signal wire, or the ACC power signal wire, to turn on your amp. I found another post of someone else who had this same issue.
I cannot find most of the passwords needed to set up the unit. The master password is 126 - I found that by watching a joying video. But I cannot find the second level passwords for changing the logo, changing the launcher, etc. Anyone have the other passwords?
The utility to change the color of the buttons on the left side of the unit works, but the buttons do not illuminate one the unit is booted.
I cannot find the radio settings in the new radio app. You used to be able to slide the bar at the bottom of the radio app to get to settings. Now in Android 8, there are a couple of radio settings that have been moved to the main android setup dialog - but for example I cannot find a setting to turn on the functionality to identify song and station names.
Some of the functionality of the former car settings app has been moved to the android settings dialog. But not everything is there - for example this is where I was looking for the ability to tell the unit to toggle the amplifier signal wire. I could not find any such setting.
I cannot figure out how to change the launcher - with the default launcher the lower row of app icons is only half visible on the screen.
Who else has a new Joying Android 8 unit - what else are you seeing? Has anyone found solutions to the items above?
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I have had several back and forth emails with Joying support in the last couple of days.
They are trying to find the passwords for their new units under Android 8. Support didn't know. They had me try 00000 and 123456, neither of which worked. I told them the main password is 126 - they didn't know this either. I still need passwords for all of the second level settings - change the launcher, change the logo, see if there are more developer options for car config, etc.
They are apparently aware that the AMP-CONT lead to turn on the external amplifier does not work. They recommend connecting the accessory wire from your vehicle to the amp signaling wire instead, so the amp will turn on when you turn your key to the accessory or on position, bypassing the head unit.
They acknowledge there are no detailed settings available for the radio under Android 8 in the radio app. So there is no way to turn on station or channel ID for US customers.
I also let them know about another radio issue - FM Radio reception is normal, but AM reception is awful to non-existent.
Google maps is ok, directions from Google maps are mixing with other audio ok.
Feels like Android 8 on the new Joying 4GB units isn't quite ready for prime time yet... Has anyone tried to upgrade a 2GB Android 6 unit to Android 8 now that the Android 8 files are on Joying's website? Do you see the same behaviors, or am I seeing hardware issue with the brand new 4GB units? I suspect it's all software, but would be nice to know.
ddruker said:
Feels like Android 8 on the new Joying 4GB units isn't quite ready for prime time yet... Has anyone tried to upgrade a 2GB Android 6 unit to Android 8 now that the Android 8 files are on Joying's website? Do you see the same behaviors, or am I seeing hardware issue with the brand new 4GB units? I suspect it's all software, but would be nice to know.
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The 2GB units are not compatible with the 4GB units. They need different hardware drivers and different MCU firmware as the firmware in the 2GB units is from FYT. I forgot the manufacturer of the 4 GB units but @gtxaspec knows.
There is no downloadable firmware yet for the 2GB units.
hi, i've the same unit and the password was noted into the user manual, it's 3368.
If you buy Joying android 8.0 unit the SKU like:JY-UO135N4PX5 or JY-UOS03N4PX5,password as below:
Master password:126
Password for changing logo:0000
Password for changing UI:8086
TomTom
It seams to be so hard. Again an Android HU, where TomTom navigation does not work. It let's me download the maps, but after that it crashes every time I try to load the application.
I can confirm these passwords are correct:
Master password:126
Password for changing logo:0000
Password for changing UI:8086
Other findings so far:
The illuminated buttons do work - they sometimes take a few seconds to come on after your illumination wire signals with 12V.
The logo selection with this new unit does not include Porsche or Saab. You can still upload your own custom logos.
I updated the unit to the latest (2018-4-20) release on the Joying website which is supposed to include optimizations and Zlink and my unit is now hanging at the Android text logo (right after the animated Android logo). I sent a note to Joying support for help and will also wait for a few hours to see if it comes back to life.
ddruker said:
I can confirm these passwords are correct:
I updated the unit to the latest (2018-4-20) release on the Joying website which is supposed to include optimizations and Zlink and my unit is now hanging at the Android text logo (right after the animated Android logo). I sent a note to Joying support for help and will also wait for a few hours to see if it comes back to life.
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The same happened to me
After writing about 25 emails with Joying support I had to reflash the whole system ... loosing all my data.
For now I am really not going to try any more updates from Joying with this unit.
Really hoping for a Custom Rom & Root for this unit.
I have one of these as well. Any one find where the setting is to make the sleep mode last longer(2hrs) before it full shuts down? it seems to be locked on 30sec currently. Also it wont pair with my OBDlinkMX BT dongle. in the older MTCD units, making the BT password 1234 let you do it, but not here. anyone have any luck with BT OBD dongle pairing?
I was really leaning towards getting this unit but have been holding off because I wish it had Bluetooth 5.0, maybe I should wait a little longer since it seems to have a fair amount of bugs. I know a lot of people are happy with the Xtron since it has all the best features I just really prefer to have the buttons on the left like this unit has. Looking forward to seeing if you guys can get this squared away
peregrines said:
The same happened to me
After writing about 25 emails with Joying support I had to reflash the whole system ... loosing all my data.
For now I am really not going to try any more updates from Joying with this unit.
Really hoping for a Custom Rom & Root for this unit.
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I was able to get my unit working again by reflashing. It took about 10 tries with three different USB cards but it finally worked. Joying support provided a file that included a system image and a Window-based chinese language USB card writing programs, along with a word document with instructions. You build the USB drive and then plug it into the left hand USB connector, and click the reset button on the front of the unit. It loads, then tells you to remove the USB drive, and then if you are very lucky it will reboot into Android.
After re-flashing, the vertical keyboard on the left side of the unit did not work. Turned out the mappings had been erased. Fix is to remap the keys - there is an option in car settings.
Current issues still present in the unit seem to be:
Unit shuts off entirely after 30-60 seconds instead of sleeping when you turn off the vehicle. My intel-based unit sleeps for several days.
No AM radio reception - static on all channels.
No way to turn on song or station identification in the radio settings for FM.
AMP-cont signal wire does not work. I've worked around by wiring my accessory wire directly to my amp's signaling wire.
Have not tried Torque and Bluetooth ODBII reader pairing yet - on my list for this weekend.
So, it's not just me...
I purchased a JY-UM135N2PX5 (PX5 2G/16G) with Android 6.0 mid to late March.
I had it on my bench through April, testing and configuring it prior to install.
After trading emails with Joying tech support, I was sent an Android 8.0 update to address a Zlink/iPhone issue.
I started my install in the car today, and discovered "no sound". I guessed that the AMP-CONT wasn't turning on the OEM amplifier. I rechecked the cables, which checked out just fine. Tried a Joying JY-UM135N2 (Intel Sofia 2G/32G Android 6) on the same harness, and it functioned as expected (turned the OEM amplifier on and had sound). I took them both back to my bench and noticed that the "AMP-CONT" on the PX5 unit did not appear to have 12V on it, while the Sofia unit did.
I did not leave the non-functional PX5 unit in the car long enough to see any other issues.
I am curious if I were to revert back to Android 6 on the PX5 unit, if it would fix the AMP-CONT issue (at the cost of breaking the Zlink/iPhone functionality)
ddruker said:
I was able to get my unit working again by reflashing. It took about 10 tries with three different USB cards but it finally worked. Joying support provided a file that included a system image and a Window-based chinese language USB card writing programs, along with a word document with instructions. You build the USB drive and then plug it into the left hand USB connector, and click the reset button on the front of the unit. It loads, then tells you to remove the USB drive, and then if you are very lucky it will reboot into Android.
After re-flashing, the vertical keyboard on the left side of the unit did not work. Turned out the mappings had been erased. Fix is to remap the keys - there is an option in car settings.
Current issues still present in the unit seem to be:
Unit shuts off entirely after 30-60 seconds instead of sleeping when you turn off the vehicle. My intel-based unit sleeps for several days.
Poor AM radio reception
No way to turn on song or station identification in the radio settings.
AMP-cont signal wire does not work. I've worked around by wiring my accessory wire directly to my amp's signaling wire.
Have not tried Torque and Bluetooth ODBII reader pairing yet - on my list for this weekend.
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Would you be so kind as to share those files with us? This would be a good starting point for further testing and research. Simply upload to a hoster like mega.
z0rn said:
Would you be so kind as to share those files with us? This would be a good starting point for further testing and research. Simply upload to a hoster like mega.
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Here is a link to the zip file from Joying with the firmware image for reflashing, their USB drive utility, and instructions...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13HXHRRfuduhIYV41pjQlvsJ0o3xesNBC
Here is the reply I got from Joying support this morning in regards to the open defects I am tracking with the unit. I suspect that all of this will get fixed in subsequent software releases, it's relatively obvious stuff. Can anyone confirm if these same issues exist in the Android 8 builds on Joying's 2GB PX5 head units, or are these unique to the newest 4GB units?
Dear friend,
Please noted :
1) sorry that your system is different with Intel head unit , it do not have fast boot feature . so it will completely off .
2) for the AM receptions is bad , you need to set the proper time and zone . also the radio area choice .
3) sorry, the head unit you purchased do not have the RDS setting .
4) for the am-cont not voltage , please connect the ACC (red wire ) to your amplifier wire . then can offer 12V .
Hope your noted .
Candy
ddruker said:
Here is the reply I got from Joying support this morning in regards to the open defects I am tracking with the unit. I suspect that all of this will get fixed in subsequent software releases, it's relatively obvious stuff. Can anyone confirm if these same issues exist in the Android 8 builds on Joying's 2GB PX5 head units, or are these unique to the newest 4GB units?
Dear friend,
Please noted :
1) sorry that your system is different with Intel head unit , it do not have fast boot feature . so it will completely off .
2) for the AM receptions is bad , you need to set the proper time and zone . also the radio area choice .
3) sorry, the head unit you purchased do not have the RDS setting .
4) for the am-cont not voltage , please connect the ACC (red wire ) to your amplifier wire . then can offer 12V .
Hope your noted .
Candy
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Are they serious? I would suggest to try the Malaysk Rom, i guess your units are MTCD and MTCE devices so maybe this rom would support the missing software like rds and the other hardware not supported by Joying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWvgrcn_As8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-malaysk-roms-px5-2-4-gb-8-0-android-t3762724
Good luck!
Flemischguy said:
Are they serious? I would suggest to try the Malaysk Rom, i guess your units are MTCD and MTCE devices so maybe this rom would support the missing software like rds and the other hardware not supported by Joying
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These units are NOT MTCD/E. Do not use the Malaysk ROM.
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ddruker said:
Here is the reply I got from Joying support this morning in regards to the open defects I am tracking with the unit. I suspect that all of this will get fixed in subsequent software releases, it's relatively obvious stuff. Can anyone confirm if these same issues exist in the Android 8 builds on Joying's 2GB PX5 head units, or are these unique to the newest 4GB units?
Dear friend,
Please noted :
1) sorry that your system is different with Intel head unit , it do not have fast boot feature . so it will completely off .
2) for the AM receptions is bad , you need to set the proper time and zone . also the radio area choice .
3) sorry, the head unit you purchased do not have the RDS setting .
4) for the am-cont not voltage , please connect the ACC (red wire ) to your amplifier wire . then can offer 12V .
Hope your noted .
Candy
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I have a 2GB Android version 8.0.0 unit, but my unit is a FYT based unit like the Sofia 3GRs, unlike yours which is a QD unit.
Mine does have fast-boot as my unit is a FYT based unit, using the same hardware/SOM as the Sogia 3GR intel units.
I never used AM-reception. I wouldn't know, but I know from previous users on Sofia 3GR that they also complained about the AM reception
Which RDS-setting? This is so confusing and so not concrete. RDS is a complete set of functions. The syu/FYT based software on the FYT based units support RDS-PS, RDS-PTY and RDS-TA/TP. The latest firmware versions on FYT units (Sofia 3GR and my PX5) also support RDS-RT. They do not support RDS-AF. They implemented "something" like AF. If you use that option it does not select the Alternate Frequency of your radio station, it selects the strongest signal it can find of any station. Note that it is the software. The radio chips in all these units support the complete RDS set of functions.
Don't know about the the amp-cont wire.
You ask about and mention AM and about RDS. I hope you know that RDS can only be used on the FM signal. RDS is not available for AM.
Help
Heres a link I need help to identify my android head unit
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Traww said:
Heres a link I need help to identify my android head unit
https://app.box.com/s/o90d0lnjrqqlek5w1q6lekaj5dgsa20y
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You have an Allwinner T3 chipset in your unit.
Do not use a Joying thread to ask a completely off-topic question.
I've received the same unit, facing the same issues as the OP.
Also the localisation in my language is quite poor.
surfer63 said:
These units are NOT MTCD/E. Do not use the Malaysk ROM.
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I've bought this unit in the hope that it would be compatible with custom ROMs.
Are you saying that the unit MCU is almost unknown and that no custom ROM would be available in the near future?
*picture removed - its a Chinese "OEM" looking unit with a purple IR dot bottom right*
Bought an M3 last week and it had this unit in it.
I've not really got a clue how to use it to It's strength though.
I've currently got my phone hotspot turned on 24/7 as I can't see a way of having it come on when it connects to the car.
The launcher in that picture is a pain as the radio app is junk. I can't tune any FM stations other than Radio 2 and 4. Is there an app that can tune actual FM radio rather than Internet radio that's fit for a car?
I've been playing around with a launcher called Agama tonight which allows me to control what apps open from the touch screen, if I can get a proper FM tuner, can it be mapped to the hard button?
I'm sure I'll have more questions so get used to the sight of me and sorry in advance.
Edit: can't post the picture until I've got 10 posts. Hoping some of you more familiar with these types of head units can help.
Without a picture, it's really hard to say what unit it is, but it is possibly one of the Eonon or Xtrons units, take a look at their websites and see if you can ID the unit. Also, take a look in Settings->About Machine and tell us what info is in there, including the firmware version and MCU type/version, which will help in id-ing the unit and giving advice on how to progress.
If it's not too old, then you may be able to install a custom ROM to get it up to date (easy to do). There are other Radio apps that you can use, but setting them as the default can be a pain, I'm not 100% sure but I think you will need a custom ROM to be able to achieve this.
I reckon you might have it with Xtrons based on the button pattern.
Top left down is Navi, Band, Menu, Mode
Some in Google images have different buttons such as home (which the menu seems to do in mine)
I couldn't tell anything of use from the settings but I recall it has android 9 so it can't be that old. It's in better condition that the rest of the interior that's for sure.
I have two female USB's sticking out from under the steering column. What might they be for?
Can anyone recommend a proper tuner app for the radio that uses actual FM radio rather than the Internet?
Thanks for looking.
Another question, do these Chinese units have a sub output?
I don't have HK in the car so looking for a little extra bass.
So I went the medieval route to identifying the unit - I pulled it out and had a look.
The only markings to give it away was a huge "hizpo" sticker on the side. Google/ebay search found this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-DAB-An...071044?hash=item5b72aea104:g:R4sAAOSwxMFemRw5
Although that is Android 10 and mine is 9
Looks like a piece of junk tbh. Is it worse junk than it's simular Eonon and Xtron counterparts?
I've been left with the bare minimum wiring at the back. None of the audio/visual in/outputs are there. The GPS antenna is just a stubby on the back of the unit, there's nothing for DAB.
What do we think, junk it and replace it or try and get the right ancillaries?
I was thinking of a small sub and amp and a reverse camera and would like DAB which are all out at the moment..
Hi Matt,
most do not come with DAB+ but you get a usb dongle and install an app, DAB-Z is very good,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3031914365...SWq6_GyD1IyftEY8s3tRj4-ntcgqxfuxoCnX4QAvD_BwE
some of these units are poor, so can be very good. Little hard to tell without the full details of your unit, and if you dont have all the wiring for your sub etc, then its down to you if you replace it or not
RossMacgill said:
Hi Matt,
most do not come with DAB+ but you get a usb dongle and install an app, DAB-Z is very good,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3031914365...SWq6_GyD1IyftEY8s3tRj4-ntcgqxfuxoCnX4QAvD_BwE
some of these units are poor, so can be very good. Little hard to tell without the full details of your unit, and if you dont have all the wiring for your sub etc, then its down to you if you replace it or not
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Are the wiring harnesses the same across the units that all look the same?
I ask that with a small hope I could buy just the harness but I can't find Eonon or Xtrons sell them on their own.
If you were to recommend the better units, what ones would you say? Has to be from the OEM look selection. Don't like naff looking screens sticking out of the dash.
I keep looking back to the Avin Avant 4 which is much closer to the OEM look with the button layout and has a lot of extra's, one of which is the ibus interface. You seem to be able to access the cars computers like NCS and do basic coding, show the PDC radar and potentially show navigations cues on the binnacle,.
That appears to be a 3rd party gadget I could add to this unit if I wanted to but not sure this one is worth it.
I will say I found an option in the equaliser "loud" that has made a vast improvement to the audio. but it still feels like it needs a sub.
Matt_Android said:
Are the wiring harnesses the same across the units that all look the same?
I ask that with a small hope I could buy just the harness but I can't find Eonon or Xtrons sell them on their own.
If you were to recommend the better units, what ones would you say? Has to be from the OEM look selection. Don't like naff looking screens sticking out of the dash.
I keep looking back to the Avin Avant 4 which is much closer to the OEM look with the button layout and has a lot of extra's, one of which is the ibus interface. You seem to be able to access the cars computers like NCS and do basic coding, show the PDC radar and potentially show navigations cues on the binnacle,.
That appears to be a 3rd party gadget I could add to this unit if I wanted to but not sure this one is worth it.
I will say I found an option in the equaliser "loud" that has made a vast improvement to the audio. but it still feels like it needs a sub.
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No, the wiring is different on them, so your better off replacing the unit. Eonon and Xtrons have a good following and also dev's playing around with bits, so it would be a good route to go down, but dont hold me to that if it goes wrong haha, also PX6 should be good units, so another safer bet
Sorry, I am a complete noob here and have noticed this in the various different sites selling them - PX6? What is that, is it just the chip in the same vein as a snapdragon for instance?
Th Avant one comes in either PX30 or PX6 - other than the RAM and the storage, what's the benefit of the PX6? Process/bootup speed?
Matt_Android said:
Sorry, I am a complete noob here and have noticed this in the various different sites selling them - PX6? What is that, is it just the chip in the same vein as a snapdragon for instance?
Th Avant one comes in either PX30 or PX6 - other than the RAM and the storage, what's the benefit of the PX6? Process/bootup speed?
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Rockchip is a manufacturer of SoCs (Systems on a chip), they make a range of general-purpose SoCs (eg RK3399). The PX6 is a SoC based on their RK3399 specifically tailored towards android head units. PX6 is the latest, it is a 6 core processor. The PX5 (based on RK3368) is the previous version, it is an 8 core processor. I don't know much about PX30, I believe it is older than PX5. PX6 is faster in most benchmarks despite having fewer processor cores. For the small-screen in-dash units, you probably want to look at Xtrons or Avin, they both have relatively good reputations
I have one of the 9" screen units in my E39 (very similar dash to the E46) and to my eyes, it just looks like it is meant to be there. It's not a perfect fit, but it is very close. But the extra screen real estate makes it more than worth the trade-off imho.
I only noticed today (because I was watching a YouTube video of one being installed) the Avant 4 has no disc drive at all. I rarely use discs, granted, but not sure I'm ready to sacrifice the option altogether.
Hi everyone,
I recently bought a used 2010 Prius with an android HU. It's unbranded (noname) and pretty weak (1gb ram). I could live with the android performance issues but the microphone is driving me crazy. Nobody can hear what i'm saying. The unit has an external mic and i wanted to upgrade it to a different one but for some reason, the mic that's connected to the HU has 5 wires (last picture) and the one i ordered only 2 (mono jack). There's also no mic jack. Here are my questions:
1. Is there a way to connect a different mono mic?
2. Does anyone have any idea what unit this is and where i can find a wiring diagram?
3. Can you recommend a better unit? I like the ones that look more like stock, with physical buttons.
4. Any known fix for the error in the picture? "Software has not been authorized legally" when trying to use Easyconnect to mirror my phone.
I need any info i can get, you don't have to have all the answers
Thanks!
I googled "Sp9853i_1h10_vmm" (taken from one of your photos). Turned up quite a few results. I have not had experience with that particular unit but maybe might turn up some useful information for you perhaps.
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jlbooth said:
I googled "Sp9853i_1h10_vmm" (taken from one of your photos). Turned up quite a few results. I have not had experience with that particular unit but maybe might turn up some useful information for you perhaps.
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Thanks for the reply. I've done that first the problem is there are multiple manufacturers with multiple configurations. I contacted Seicane and am still in the process of identifying the unit/software with them but the back and forth is pretty slow..
This is not your "standard" moddable unit, I'm afraid. Most information here and on forums like 4PDA is on units based on 2 main technologies:
1. 8227L Mediatek, system: YT921xx
2. Rockchip PX3, PX5, PX6, PX30 based on MTCx chip.
By having a quick look at what you got, the mic is the least of your problems. These units are packed with so called features but need considerable hardware and software modding to make them work and even excel.
Here is an example of one such modded units, started off as cheap £70 Android, and ended up performing on par with luxury Android units. The video shows the mods, just to give you an understanding.
To save you time, invest in a Dasaita MTCE unit as that one requires least mods to perform well. You can find them for around £200 on AliExpress. Good luck!
Thanks for the info. I'll look into one of the PX chips and go for dasaita.
so i've found a single Dasaita unit for Prius G3 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001625066855.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.20fa2e0eCiCqeA
The problem is i can't find this model on Dasaita website or store and i'm not sure it's real. I've emailed Dasaita but no reply..
There are multiple units from diferent brands (Ownice, Wondefoo..). Can i go for one of those? What should i look for?
Some sellers list the "K6 plus" version as the top of the line. Should i still go for PX6 or is that better?
Hello. I bought a damaged radio and replaced the PX5 processor module from another radio (PUMPKIN). After replacing the PX5 processor module, the radio works - I only had a problem with Bluetootch - the GOC-RF210 module was installed in my radio, which was not on the factory settings list. So I replaced the BT i140 module with Pumpkin. After switching the BT module to the i140 and selecting it in the factory options - it works without any problems. Radio works, navigation, DSP processor, bluetootch. The only problem is the lack of voice only in the MUSIC application (e.g. from a flash drive) and movies from the Internet and navigation. Visually, everything works only without a voice. Oddly enough, there is sound from the radio and BT. There is also a beep sound from the buttons all the time. I was restoring factory settings, updating the MCU but nothing changed. I did not find a solution in the factory settings. There was also no sound before replacing the BT module. Can anyone help in solving the problem? Regards.
So, based on some of your comments, I am assuming the PX-5 module still has the same Android SW that it had on the PUMPKIN unit, or you installed it again using a PUMPKIN release
"the GOC-RF210 module was installed in my radio, which was not on the factory settings list "
Could it be that you're mixing PX5-Android OS from one provider with the MTCD/E board of another provider? Do you know who manufactured the "original unit" (the Physical unit, regardless of where you took the PX5 from)
So, while I can not give you a definite answer, this is the thinking process I'd follow if I were on your shoes:
1) PX5 is a standard board/HW. All units are the same. What is not (always) the same is the modifications each provider makes to the underlying Android OS to be able to control the MTC-D from Android... although there is a lot of overlapping and compatibility among providers.
2) The fact that you were not able to see on the "Pumpking-Flavor" of Android-UI the Bluetooth module used by your motherboard, points to some level of incompatibility there... but that incompatibility would be between Android-flavor and the micro-controller of your motherboard, not between PX5 and your motherboard (because all PX-5 are the same, HW-wise)
3) I'd try to define who was the manufacturer of the motherboard/main unit and flash on the PX5 an Android version provided by them and a Firmware version provided by them. Meaning, your unit won't be a Pumpkin anymore. It will become back whatever it was before changing the PX-5, but with a new PX-5
If you are not sure who was the original manufacturer, try with Hal9K ROM or Malaysk. But DO NOT change the Android version you have now... let's focus on a problem at a time
My gut-feeling is that your MTCD/E microcontroller is expecting a specific code to instruct the BCM chip (the audio processor, which selects input audio to be played) to connect the PX-5 Audio to the Output... but the App running on the PX-5 which is in charge to talk with the micro-controller is sending some other code, because it expects to be talking to a different board.
While somebody could counter-argue "why only the sound is not working, if the motherboard is not compatible", I'd say that maybe the Android-SW is expecting the motherboard to have a DSP while it doesn't have one (or the other way around), so it COULD be that everything works except the audio...
Is either that, or some physical failure... Do you know why the original PX-5 failed?
Thank you for valuable information. The USB handling system (GL850G) burnt in the processor of the processor module, but after replacing it, nothing changed. There is still a short circuit in the module that I have not located. As for the rest of your information, I have to analyze it for a while because I do not have much experience in software modification. regards
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Thank you for valuable information. The USB handling system (GL850G) burnt in the processor of the processor module, but after replacing it, nothing changed. There is still a short circuit in the module that I have not located. As for the rest of your information, I have to analyze it for a while because I do not have much experience in software modification. regards
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What I was able to check. The sound from the multimedia certainly reaches the BU32107EFV sound processor - there is an analog signal at the processor's input, but the sound does not come out of it. I admit that I have no experience in programming - I only managed to update the MCU to the CSN2-D-1152020_114103 version - I understand that this applies to this processor module? So how do you find the right motherboard firmware? I am also asking for tips on how to install it. regards
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I admit that I have no experience in programming - I only managed to update the MCU to the CSN2-D-1152020_114103 version - I understand that this applies to this processor module? So how do you find the right motherboard firmware? I am also asking for tips on how to install it. regards
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This and other questions have been written about almost daily.
Note that the replies about "MTCD" do not apply.
Then please give me a link to solve this problem, because I am not English-speaking and it is difficult for me to navigate the forum here. regards