I think, based on other posts I've found on here, that I'm on the way to identifying the manufacturer of the head unit I just bought off E-Bay. The seller doesn't know the manufacturer, and the poorly translated manual is not much help in identifying which company manufactured it. I'm trying to find better directions for hooking up the backup camera, as well as configuring the Steering Wheel Controls for my 2013 Kia Optima to work with this unit.
I've attached the photos from the relevant "About this unit" screens I can find.
Thanks for any input you may have.
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carrollraymc said:
I think, based on other posts I've found on here, that I'm on the way to identifying the manufacturer of the head unit I just bought off E-Bay. The seller doesn't know the manufacturer, and the poorly translated manual is not much help in identifying which company manufactured it. I'm trying to find better directions for hooking up the backup camera, as well as configuring the Steering Wheel Controls for my 2013 Kia Optima to work with this unit.
I've attached the photos from the relevant "About this unit" screens I can find.
Thanks for any input you may have.View attachment 5806803View attachment 5806805
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Well... I fear that this unit is a fake.
You can check that with the app Fake Device Test on your unit.
I fear that your unit is not even Android 10 due to the old and outdated CPU in this unit.
To figure out which manufacture assembled this device is quite difficult. At least not important to know.
Important to know is the MCU and the current Firmware in use.
To find more information about the sort of Allwinner device you own, just use the search, I linked.
Regarding backup camera:
Does your car has an OEM backup camera, or do you want to use any aftermarket solution?
Regarding Steering wheel buttons:
Is your new head unit equipped with a CAN box?
rigattoni said:
Well... I fear that this unit is a fake.
You can check that with the app Fake Device Test on your unit.
I fear that your unit is not even Android 10 due to the old and outdated CPU in this unit.
To figure out which manufacture assembled this device is quite difficult. At least not important to know.
Important to know is the MCU and the current Firmware in use.
To find more information about the sort of Allwinner device you own, just use the search, I linked.
Regarding backup camera:
Does your car has an OEM backup camera, or do you want to use any aftermarket solution?
Regarding Steering wheel buttons:
Is your new head unit equipped with a CAN box?
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It came with a backup camera. It's missing the backup camera cable, but the seller is *supposed* to be sending a replacement cable.
It's funny, but the listing mentioned Android 12. Hmmm.
I don't know about a CAN box. I'm a relative newcomer to Android Head Units, so I don't know what's involved in getting such a unit up and running. I'll look into the app you mentioned. Thanks.
rigattoni said:
Well... I fear that this unit is a fake.
You can check that with the app Fake Device Test on your unit.
I fear that your unit is not even Android 10 due to the old and outdated CPU in this unit.
To figure out which manufacture assembled this device is quite difficult. At least not important to know.
Important to know is the MCU and the current Firmware in use.
To find more information about the sort of Allwinner device you own, just use the search, I linked.
Regarding backup camera:
Does your car has an OEM backup camera, or do you want to use any aftermarket solution?
Regarding Steering wheel buttons:
Is your new head unit equipped with a CAN box?
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If this unit indeed turns out to be not what it's advertised (i.e., fake) is it worth investing time in getting everything running, or should I throw in the towel, reset it and open a case with EBay?
carrollraymc said:
It came with a backup camera. It's missing the backup camera cable, but the seller is *supposed* to be sending a replacement cable.
It's funny, but the listing mentioned Android 12. Hmmm.
I don't know about a CAN box. I'm a relative newcomer to Android Head Units, so I don't know what's involved in getting such a unit up and running. I'll look into the app you mentioned. Thanks.
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May be make some pictures from the whole stuff you got with the unit....
Which car is it built in? Was it special for your car and MY?
carrollraymc said:
If this unit indeed turns out to be not what it's advertised (i.e., fake) is it worth investing time in getting everything running, or should I throw in the towel, reset it and open a case with EBay?
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Please show pictures of the outcome of the Fake Device Test.
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Please show pictures of the outcome of the Fake Device Test.
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I sure will. I've already put it in the Google Play Store queue to install on the unit in my car when I get ready to head home, and get my hotspot going.
Thanks.
I did run the Fake Device Checker app, and it reported the OS as Android 8, not the Android 11 the listing said, nor Android 12 the phone reported to the "About system" section of the settings in the flavor of Android it was running. So, I have already initiated the return process. I did a factory reset on the device before I pulled it out of the vehicle. Just waiting on the return shipping label to send the return in. In the process of pulling it out of the vehicle, I did find the missing cable for the backup camera, so at least it will be returned with everything it came with.
I'm going to do some more research before I pull the trigger on another purchase of an Android Head Unit. I didn't realize I was purchasing a fake unit until you brought up the issue. I think I'll be steering clear of no-name units, and go for a more known brand.
The fact the android version is faked doesn't mean that it can't be a good unit though. What did 'Fake device Test' say about the 2g and 32G, did it confirm they're not faked? (That's a good app, BTW). I bought three 2G/32G AC8227l units from an Ali Express seller and they're fine so yours might be OK unless there's some app you really need a later android version to run.
Mr.TT_NZ said:
The fact the android version is faked doesn't mean that it can't be a good unit though. What did 'Fake device Test' say about the 2g and 32G, did it confirm they're not faked? (That's a good app, BTW). I bought three 2G/32G AC8227l units from an Ali Express seller and they're fine so yours might be OK unless there's some app you really need a later android version to run.
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Right...
Nevertheless for me it´s a scam to sell units with a faked Android version.
At least for me, I would not accept that.
I´m still waiting for a seller who delivers a head unit with Android 21, just because he made a typo.
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rigattoni said:
Right...
Nevertheless for me it´s a scam to sell units with a faked Android version.
At least for me, I would not accept that.
I´m still waiting for a seller who delivers a head unit with Android 21, just because he made a typo.
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That's what I'm thinking. It wasn't what was advertised. Doesn't matter if it "runs ok" under the faked version. The fact that it's fake says enough.
...and now I've heard from the seller on my return request. He/she is offering a partial refund. They admit it's Android 8, but "can be upgraded" to a newer version (I have my doubts about that, because it never found an update when I'd check for updates to Android - which stands to reason since the OS version is fudged.) Rather than process the return, they are offering a partial refund.
It *did* run ok when I had it installed. It was a bit slow to get some of the apps up and running (usually iHeart Radio and Waze mostly), but it did run ok. I did use it under Android Auto, and that *was* nice. Since I do have all the items it shipped with, including the necessary hardware to hook up the backup camera, I'm tempted to keep it. Yes, it's running an older version of Android than what was listed, but since I'm not doing online banking or reading my e-mail on it, I don't know that the lack of security updates is much of a concern for a device like this.
The only thing that doesn't work with it right now is the steering wheel controls, for which I understand an additional piece of equipment is necessary.
I bought one knowing the Android version was fake, I knew it was 10 not 11 but concentrated on getting the best bang for buck on the RAM and Memory eg 8/128. Apps start very fast and no performance issues so far.
kommando said:
I bought one knowing the Android version was fake, I knew it was 10 not 11 but concentrated on getting the best bang for buck on the RAM and Memory eg 8/128. Apps start very fast and no performance issues so far.
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Yes, that´s okay in this case, as you own already an 8 core unit.
The quad core units are slower and have more problems with multi threading software. Playing DAB+, running navigation and in foreground something else, that could be an issue.
carrollraymc said:
The only thing that doesn't work with it right now is the steering wheel controls, for which I understand an additional piece of equipment is necessary.
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Yes, you may need a CAN box for this to get working, if your SWC buttons are provided by the CAN.
Well, after considering everything, and your point about the quad core vs octa core units, I'm thinking I'm going to decline the offer of a partial refund, and insist on returning it. The seller *knew* it wasn't running Android 11 like they posted in the listing, and *knew* it was really running Android 8. That sealed the deal for me. I'm going to decline the offer of a partial refund, and insist on returning it.
The big thing I did like about this unit, was that it came with the trim panel for my dashboard that I needed to install it. If I get a name brand unit, I'll have to order all the necessary parts seperately, for the most part.
The other thing my wife and I were considering is that we have a Sirius/XM Satellite radio subscription. Yes, we have access via the app, but on long trips, we may end up in areas where the mobile data connection is non-existant. So, I'm thinking we're going to look for a unit that's Sirius/XM radio ready, get the Sirius box we need, as well as whatever we need to mount it and to enable the steering wheel controls, and end up with a better setup all the way around.
At least I know it's possible to have a decent radio/entertainment system in this car. I just have to be more particular about what I put in it.
On AliExpress you will find frames on their own from makers such as Skyframe for most models.
kommando said:
I bought one knowing the Android version was fake, I knew it was 10 not 11 but concentrated on getting the best bang for buck on the RAM and Memory eg 8/128. Apps start very fast and no performance issues so far.
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That's good for you, but as the other poster pointed out, the unit I ended up with is a quad core unit, and does have some performance issues. It ran, and did ok, but it was slow at times. I'm going to insist on returning this unit, and find a better one. I think I'm going to stick with a name brand, rather than one of the generic chinese units where you don't know who actually manufactured the unit. Name brand units aren't likely to be falsifying the operating system version that's installed on the system.
carrollraymc said:
That's good for you, but as the other poster pointed out, the unit I ended up with is a quad core unit, and does have some performance issues. It ran, and did ok, but it was slow at times. I'm going to insist on returning this unit, and find a better one. I think I'm going to stick with a name brand, rather than one of the generic chinese units where you don't know who actually manufactured the unit. Name brand units aren't likely to be falsifying the operating system version that's installed on the system.
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Good choice...
If I would be you, I would have a look into the FYT forum
These units are known good and mostly also available var specific.
carrollraymc said:
Name brand units aren't likely to be falsifying the operating system version that's installed on the system.
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My FYT is a fake android 11, the sellers either get FYT to change the version in the software or do it themselves. Anyway if you buy a fake version off Aliexpress then raise a dispute on receipt asking for 25% and with the right evidence you will get a counter offer of 20%.
kommando said:
My FYT is a fake android 11, the sellers either get FYT to change the version in the software or do it themselves. Anyway if you buy a fake version off Aliexpress then raise a dispute on receipt asking for 25% and with the right evidence you will get a counter offer of 20%.
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If you buy a FYT unit at Joying (as example) you won´t get a fake Android version. It always is a point of the reseller, because they fake that. I never buy any units at any reseller. They are not able to support, they have no clue what they are selling and ... let´s say it like that: It´s no problem for the reseller to mark Android 10 as Android 13. It´s just a quick change of one digit in the firmware.
They just do it to make the unit more interesting for buyer who are not that familiar with their doing.... and they are successful as we see daily in this forum. They often also lie about the used RAM and ROM, so I don´t trust anyone on Ali.
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hello
I'm really debating between choosing the latest JOYING headunit (with the digital amplifier) and the PUMPKIN 7.1 android
does they have the external mic problem?
Is there any other recommended stable Chinese android head unit?
I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
pounce said:
I'm more or less convinced that it's really a zero sum game with these units. Each has it's own issues and benefits and they even out. Find one with the screen you like and general features.
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they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
+1 for Pumpkin, I've had the RQ0278E for a few months now, it's nice but it has its quirks. The Android 6.0 update made it better. Btw, I can't seem to get my DAC to work with it properly
deadeye1985 said:
they all have basically the same feature. it's supposed to be almost identical units...
do u recommend a specific model from specific brand? there are so many of these Chinese brands.
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Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
What do you say about the OWNICE C500 ? are they another reseller ?
pounce said:
Everyone has an opinion or approach. Depends on your objectives.
Personally, I find a good source first. I like Amazon because I can easily return. Then a look in the forums to check the amount of discussions and support for things I need. I read a bit and then buy something that seems to have some discussions and an amount of success or managed issues. Not everyone takes the approach.
Pumpkin and Joying are fairly established so I think they go in a short list.
I'm about to go with a Secaine unit because they do a nice job with dash specific plastic and form factors, but I don't hear much good about the guts. I see a lot of negative things, but that may just be because only people with problems post.
If you like hands on mods then a Joying might be fun. If you don't then maybe consider any good options that aren't Intel based.
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I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
deadeye1985 said:
I just want a stable and reliable unit with good MIC , good 3G/4G +GPS for running WAZE
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Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
pounce said:
Can you use your phone as a wifi hotspot? That would keep things simple.
Reliable might not be a quality attributed to any of the android unit. It's my opinion that most of accept some degree of mediocre reliability in exchange for the functionality we gain with being able to run android on the head unit.
You may want to consider opening your search to include Android Auto units. Waze is supported now.
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The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
deadeye1985 said:
The main problem is that I buy an android unit for my parents and they don't have a smartphone...only a old simple nokia.
so they need to use waze with a sim card with data plan.
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I would not recommend an android unit for older parents that use an old simple nokia if the reasons are that a smart phone is too complicated. I believe they may have issues with the use of the unit and that could be a safety issue.
ATOTO Double DIN Android 6.0 is my choice
I am owning ATOTO Android 6.0 HU. When it comes to operation speed, ATOTO is the best. After PUMPKIN Android 7 released for 2 months, I checked a lot reviews about it. But I think that may slower than my ATOTO Android 6.0 system. So I will just keep Android 6.0
i want to buy unit that support video out (headrest monitors), i found 2 units that i think that is good and i dont know what to choose.
1. joying JY-UM135N2PX5 CPU: PX5 Octa core Cortex-A53 up to 1.5GHz
2. hizpo WJZ99GX - CPU: T8 2.0GHz (i think this is the model number)
most of the parameters are the same, exept the CPU
does anybody could recommend one of them or maybe another unit that i missed?
Yes, after long time research, I finally got ATOTO back with my 2003 Mazda Miata. So far so good. The screen responds faster than my wife's Joying. Good try！And it helped me save a lot money.
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No, ownice is a manufacturer, they use other hardware like the cpu from AutoChips.
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Hey everyone,
I have been searching and reading up on these android head units for a few weeks. Sounds like they really are hit or miss.
My Car: 2011 Toyota Highlander (no JBL amp), has oem backup camera, and oem bluetooth
I purchased the newest/greatest OKNAVI head unit (TS10 6gb ram, 128gb) on aliexpress, and had software and gps signal issues. After flashing with firmware provided by the seller among some other things they reco'ed, I am returning it.
So, here I am on a quest to buy something that works well and is dependable.
My research tells me that there are a couple better known brands with better customer support (Joying, Dasaita, and possibly Teyes). Any others that I am missing? Looking for a minimum of 4gb ram and 64gb storage. I believe the below units are all TS10 models, or at least the newer ones?
Joying: $400 including shipping
2 year warranty
Dasaita: $540 including shipping
1 year warranty
Teyes CC3: $409 including shipping
1 year warranty
I have an android phone and I want clean intuitive interface, screen mirroring, phone and music bluetooth, ability to add external amplifier (rca outputs/remote turn on), GPS nav, and steering wheel controls. It seems that all 3 units can do all of the above.
Would really appreciate everyone's opinion on which I should order based on your experiences.
Lastly, is the 4gb ram/64gb storage upgrade to 6gb ram/128 gb storage worth it? I don't care too much about space, but wondering if there is a significant difference on performance/speed.
Thanks yall!
There aren't any; you have to accept bugs, problems, and quality control luck of the draw. I'd think about these as being hobbyist devices.
You have listed resellers, not factory types. If anything you probably want to consider an MTCD/E unit, the Dasaita unit is HA MTCD/E.
Teyes and Joying are generally
FYT units. Suggest asking before you buy, so you know what you're buying. Since you're asking the question, I suggest there's more thought and reading involved.
Screen mirroring is probably going to be the trickiest. Why mirror when you have full android? Mirroring is flaky and gets broken often.
marchnz said:
There aren't any; you have to accept bugs, problems, and quality control luck of the draw. I'd think about these as being hobbyist devices.
You have listed resellers, not factory types. If anything you probably want to consider an MTCD/E unit, the Dasaita unit is HA MTCD/E.
Teyes and Joying are generally
FYT units. Suggest asking before you buy, so you know what you're buying. Since you're asking the question, I suggest there's more thought and reading involved.
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Really appreciate your honest reply as a newbie to Android head units. Totally agree I need to do much more research. I'm actually really confused about the MTCD/E units vs FYT, I'll do some reading to catch up. I think there are a lot of people in the same newbie boat as I am and a lot of the threads I have read are older so not sure how up to date that info is, as it is a changing environment.
These resellers use the same unit and customize it? I can be okay with some bugs and troubleshooting just want something that can do what is advertised. If there's anyway you could help me determine the difference between MTCD/E and FYT, I'd appreciate it. I'll be googling that tonight. There's so much info on xda, I'm just not sure what is relevant. I hate to even post this thread as someone will do the same soon, but hoping the community can provide some thoughts or recos. Thanks I'm advance bud!
marchnz said:
There aren't any; you have to accept bugs, problems, and quality control luck of the draw. I'd think about these as being hobbyist devices.
You have listed resellers, not factory types. If anything you probably want to consider an MTCD/E unit, the Dasaita unit is HA MTCD/E.
Teyes and Joying are generally
FYT units. Suggest asking before you buy, so you know what you're buying. Since you're asking the question, I suggest there's more thought and reading involved.
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Really appreciate your honest reply as a newbie to Android head units. Totally agree I need to do much more research. I'm actually really confused about the MTCD/E units vs FYT, I'll do some reading to catch up. I think there are a lot of people in the same newbie boat as I am and a lot of the threads I have read are older so not sure how up to date that info is, as it is a changing environment.
These resellers use the same unit and customize it? I can be okay with some bugs and troubleshooting just want something that can do what is advertised. If there's anyway you could help me determine the difference between MTCD/E and FYT, I'd appreciate it. I'll be googling that tonight. There's so much info on xda, I'm just not sure what is relevant. I hate to even post this thread as someone will do the same soon, but hoping the community can provide some thoughts or recos. Thanks I'm advanc
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Screen mirroring is probably going to be the trickiest. Why mirror when you have full android? Mirroring is flaky and gets broken often.
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Good point, tell me if screen mirroring is a necessity. I won't have a sim card for internet, my phone hotspot is 3g, and I want to have some decent NAV app. Only reason I was thinking that screen mirroring would be important.
srohang1 said:
Really appreciate your honest reply as a newbie to Android head units.
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Just as an FYI - These units are a hacked Android and not Android Auto.
srohang1 said:
These resellers use the same unit and customize it?
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Yes. Customize "loosely".
srohang1 said:
I can be okay with some bugs and troubleshooting just want something that can do what is advertised.
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As advertised
The resellers are typically creative with what they advertise. Promises are abundant.
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Good point, tell me if screen mirroring is a necessity.
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I suggest AVOIDING screen mirroring as a requirement. This "feature" is often a hack and breaks regularly with Phone Android or iOS updates.
** If you want screen mirroring, suggest considering a genuine Android Auto head unit.
A list of officially sanctioned head unit can be found here. Anything else is a Knock off and should be avoided.
Android Auto Compatibility | Android
Android Auto works with hundreds of vehicles and aftermarket stereos. Check your compatibility here.
www.android.com
I have OKNAVI (TS10 WINDOW-THEME1) unit and I have no major issues - no freezes, runs fast, touchscreen works, there's no buzz or hum. My GPS is accurate to 2m. Original firmware from January lost GPS accuracy to 15m every so often, July firmware seems to have fixed that (strongest GPS signal is 51 and others in the 40s)
Besides not supporting NA 4G, my issues with the unit are cosmetic or functional - such as navigation voice cuts in/out instead of fade in/out, rudimentary, hard to use with only one user preset EQ. Lack of root is another. Also I wish I had an option for double press and long press steering controls like on TEYES.
After using 4GB/64GB unit, I think 3GB unit would be the minimum for Android 10 (I don't use default launcher however). If I was buying one now I would probably get 3GB Teyes CC2 Plus or CC3 just because it can be rooted and more options for steering controls, build in fan is also nice.
I think TEYES is FYE not TS10/TOPWAY like OKNAVI.
Hi all
I just purchased an Android head unit from Aliexpress for my car. Advertised as Android 11 - which the seller confirmed in a private chat message.
I installed the unit yesterday and first impression is very positive. Apple Carplay (via Zlink) works well. However, after downloading CPU-Z this morning, it shows Android Version 11 but API Level 29:
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Can anyone please help me understand? Did I receive what was promised? Or is it a fake?
Thanks and regards
Andy
Its 99.9% fake - there is circulating firmware files where the sellers easily can choose to fake Android 10, 11 or 12 but in reality is most headunits only Android 10 or even lower than that.
Thanks for the feedback !
Any way of determining what version it truly is?
Well, there is several ways but the easiest for most users is using a fake device tester like this one:
Fake Device Test - Apps on Google Play
Exposes devices being sold with fake/false specifications, tests SD Cards.
play.google.com
I'll give a +1 for 'Fake Device Test' as per the above post.
CPU-Z gets fooled by the fake file and (at least on my units) AIDA64 will display everything else but when you tap on the 'android' tab the app closes so I guess the Chinese couldn't fool it so they hook the call and force the app to crash instead.
Your version is higher than mine, mine show api 27 which is Android 8.1
wolfandy77 said:
Hi all
I just purchased an Android head unit from Aliexpress for my car. Advertised as Android 11 - which the seller confirmed in a private chat message.
I installed the unit yesterday and first impression is very positive. Apple Carplay (via Zlink) works well. However, after downloading CPU-Z this morning, it shows Android Version 11 but API Level 29:
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Can anyone please help me understand? Did I receive what was promised? Or is it a fake?
Thanks and regards
Andy
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File dispute, at least get a portion of your money back - don't allow them to scam buyers
wolfandy77 said:
Hi all
I just purchased an Android head unit from Aliexpress for my car. Advertised as Android 11 - which the seller confirmed in a private chat message.
I installed the unit yesterday and first impression is very positive. Apple Carplay (via Zlink) works well. However, after downloading CPU-Z this morning, it shows Android Version 11 but API Level 29:
View attachment 5646145
Can anyone please help me understand? Did I receive what was promised? Or is it a fake?
Thanks and regards
Andy
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The real android version is Android 10
Thanks all !
The seller is adamant that his version is Android 11. According to him, 'Fake Device Test' is incorrect as both in CPU-Z as well as his own systems screen it is reporting as Android 11
No comment from him on the API Level 29 (and he confirmed to me in a message before I purchased the unit that it would be 30).
So I guess I will have to open a Dispute through Aliexpress...
One other question: I see that the system does it an option for update. In your experience, do the Chinese guys actually ever issue updates?
My question is it worthwhile keeping a good relationship with the seller as I might get future updates from him? Or will this in any case not happen and I can burn the relationship and lodge the dispute?
Well... the seller doesn´t know anything about their devices. They just know what they read from the factory.
It´s clear Android 10 as API level 29 is Android 10, there are no questions about. Android 11 needs to be setup on API level 30.
Updates? You really think you will get OTA updates... You are a dreamer...
The only way to get updates is by downloading if someone requested a new firmware and shares the information and the DL link.
In most cases you need to install all personal apps and settings after any update again, because the user partition is also formatted during the update.
wolfandy77 said:
Thanks all !
The seller is adamant that his version is Android 11. According to him, 'Fake Device Test' is incorrect as both in CPU-Z as well as his own systems screen it is reporting as Android 11
No comment from him on the API Level 29 (and he confirmed to me in a message before I purchased the unit that it would be 30).
So I guess I will have to open a Dispute through Aliexpress...
One other question: I see that the system does it an option for update. In your experience, do the Chinese guys actually ever issue updates?
My question is it worthwhile keeping a good relationship with the seller as I might get future updates from him? Or will this in any case not happen and I can burn the relationship and lodge the dispute?
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Lodge dispute, don't delay. The relationship is purely commercial and deal is over
Thanks - was suspecting that
The seller keeps repeating that my testing software is incorrect
Will lodge dispute tonight
It's disappointing. Otherwise the experience with the seller was positive. Decent installation manual, swift response to questions, unit easy to install and completely Plug&Play, Zlink works well for Carplay. So can't say that I am unhappy with the unit per se. But receiving something that is not as advertised is a no-go
Thanks for everyone's help here !
A bit off topic but can anyone quickly catch me up on the latest options for these head units? The last time I bought one was in 2018. What should I be looking for these days, and more importantly what configurations should I avoid?? Thanks
thecos77 said:
A bit off topic but can anyone quickly catch me up on the latest options for these head units? The last time I bought one was in 2014. What should I be looking for these days? Thanks
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This is what I bought (with Qualcomm CPU):
12.3" Android head unit on Aliexpress
Generally happy with it after a few days - just not Android 11 as advertised. But CPU, RAM, and storage as advertised. Unit is snappy and Zlink connection to Carplay works well. Have not tried built-in 4G
wolfandy77 said:
This is what I bought (with Qualcomm CPU):
12.3" Android head unit on Aliexpress
Generally happy with it after a few days - just not Android 11 as advertised. But CPU, RAM, and storage as advertised. Unit is snappy and Zlink connection to Carplay works well. Have not tried built-in 4G
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Man that's expensive! I paid $400 for "ID6 UI 2GB+32GB android 7.1" back in 2018 and it stopped working after a year. The seller MEKEDE told me "bad luck" so it was money down the drain. Back then this unit was the only one available for my car, now there are more options but I'm trying to figure out the most stable one. I don't want to buy the latest and then have it break again.
On the topic of this post: You should definitely file a complaint for your situation. I have no sympathy for these resellers as they usually don't know what they are selling and then are very hesitant to rectify the situaiton. You paid a ton of money for what you got. You should at least get some of it back.
Yes the sellers really have no clue, they probably really are convinced the displayed Android version is correct even though it obviously isn't.
The units I have are both 8.1, the ad for the first one said Android 10 and by the time I bought the second one the ad had been changed to say Android 11, the units are identical (good units though and the price was quite good).
You can be assured there will be no updates, again the seller will have no clue anyway, so don't hang on to the 'relationship' as there isn't one.
I suggest not trying to update your units from files you find on the internet unless there is some definite issue you need to fix as you're likely to add other issues that weren't there before.
@thecos77 can your unit not be fixed?
Brief update: Lodged the dispute with Aliexpress, in which the seller still insisted that it is Android 11 and that the 3rd-party tools I used are wrong. Asked Aliexpress to step in and was awarded a 10% refund on total cost (incl. shipping).
I am really tired about these fake versions. The seller have to learn that they are not selling to idiots.
10% is nearly nothing. I would have asked for complete refund because of selling those units. They need to feel real pain with each single unit they sell with faked firmware until they stop scamming people.
The same scam happens if they try to tell something about Android 9.1 or 10.1. In 2 months they start with selling faked Android 12.
The question is now: How can we prevent user from buying these faked units?
rigattoni said:
I am really tired about these fake versions. The seller have to learn that they are not selling to idiots.
10% is nearly nothing. I would have asked for complete refund because of selling those units. They need to feel real pain with each single unit they sell with faked firmware until they stop scamming people.
The same scam happens if they try to tell something about Android 9.1 or 10.1. In 2 months they start with selling faked Android 12.
The question is now: How can we prevent user from buying these faked units?
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Android 9.1 10.1 lol, it does not exist, I can do an ebay listing as well claiming I have a “windows 9 PC brand new *slightly used* “(If that wasn’t clear, I won’t become a scammer myself.) In a few days they will list an android 13 head unit on freaking the launch day of android 13.
I would have gone further and requests the taking down of the listing due to fraud, although no one may actually take it down.
rigattoni said:
I am really tired about these fake versions. The seller have to learn that they are not selling to idiots.
10% is nearly nothing. I would have asked for complete refund because of selling those units. They need to feel real pain with each single unit they sell with faked firmware until they stop scamming people.
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I asked for just over 20% refund (difference between a Android 10 unit and what I paid), the seller refused refund. I asked Aliexpress to step in and was awarded 10%. Don't think it's worthwhile trying to argue with Aliexpress - so I took what I could get...
Will still leave feedback on the product page - so that everyone can make an informed decision for themselves if they want to buy the item
Yes make sure you state in your feedback what the actual Android version is so other prospective buyers can see before committing.
Having said that, the units I have purchased work just fine on Android 8.1 (api 27).
Hello everybody,
I recently bought and installed a new head unit as an infotainment system for my car. Now I'm wondering what kind of operating system this is and what options I have to adapt it. I'm brand new to the Android Automotive world and trying to get an overview. I can't quite make sense of the information I can find in the settings (see screenshots). It seems to be based on Android 10, but I've read about version 12. Also, it installed a pretty bad launcher. I've tried others but would be interested to see how google's vanilla stock launcher would look like. But since I couldn't find one, I got even more confused. I am also surprised that the so-called security updates seem to be several years old, but are considered up-to-date (no updates).
Even if this sounds very clueless, can you help me to orientate myself? Are there maybe custom roms that I would have to exchange?
Many thanks in advance!
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Can anyone really try to help me with this problem?
What problem? Trying to find thr stock luancher? I think there is no built in launcher with android for cars. You can find custom ones on the play store.
Since you get no updates, you rpoboably bought a outdated device.
Okay, I would like to simply upgrade to a current firmware. I may not have made that very clear. I don't know much about such head units. Is this different from smartphones where I need a special build for a device to flash the ROM? I'm confused because I couldn't find out anything except the SoC name.
Rotblitz said:
Okay, I would like to simply upgrade to a current firmware. I may not have made that very clear. I don't know much about such head units. Is this different from smartphones where I need a special build for a device to flash the ROM? I'm confused because I couldn't find out anything except the SoC name.
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Are you sure this is not the latest firmware. If not, you can use fastboot to push a update.
No, I have absolutely no idea what versions are available and if I have the latest one. How do I find that out?
In other words, even if the manufacturer doesn't offer any updates itself, is it possible to flash your own "roms"? So they have to be specifically compatible with the head unit, or are there generally valid ones? As I said: I know very little about this area :-(
Rotblitz said:
In other words, even if the manufacturer doesn't offer any updates itself, is it possible to flash your own "roms"? So they have to be specifically compatible with the head unit, or are there generally valid ones? As I said: I know very little about this area :-(
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The rom has to be made for your device, and even that’s not all, it has to be made for your Model (certain models of the same device may not be supported). Google your device rom to see if there are any and if there are, confirm that they support your model.
Ok, thank you in advance for the support.
How do I get the device name out? You can see my screenshots above. The only thing I can read from the device is the name of the SoC.
Since I bought it from a dealer on Ebay, who also didn't provide any further information, I can't read it from him or the packaging either.
Does it not say you device name when you click on about in settings?
The device name seems to be a Qualcomm chip name. Can you link me to the listing?
Probably off-brand, as not brand would name their device a chip. If it’s off brand, prob no custom rom.
I misread something, is this your device?
Wow, 2 mistakes in a row, I did not misread something. Can I see the listing?
Unfortunately no, the seller has withdrawn the offer. I checked myself earlier whether I can still read the offer text from my account in order to read out information. I have emailed the seller and am hoping for a reply.
What you said about the no-name brands sounds logical. There are an infinite number of such devices on the net - most of them look very similar, at least in terms of appearance and connection technology. The only thing these offers have in common is the processor name. That's why I always hoped that there would be universally compatible roms that would enable new features. But the way you describe it, it seems like I don't need to get my hopes up too high.
Rotblitz said:
Unfortunately no, the seller has withdrawn the offer. I checked myself earlier whether I can still read the offer text from my account in order to read out information. I have emailed the seller and am hoping for a reply.
What you said about the no-name brands sounds logical. There are an infinite number of such devices on the net - most of them look very similar, at least in terms of appearance and connection technology. The only thing these offers have in common is the processor name. That's why I always hoped that there would be universally compatible roms that would enable new features. But the way you describe it, it seems like I don't need to get my hopes up too high.
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Is there anything on the bottom of the box?
Arealhooman said:
Is there anything on the bottom of the box?
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I'll check later when I'm home! I'll give you feedback then!
The offer from the dealer is no longer online, but there is a very similar offer for a different type of car from the same dealer here:
Für Skoda Octavia Fabia Praktik Yeti Superb 8" Touch Android GPS Navi CarPlay 4262370642976 | eBay
Entdecken Sie Für Skoda Octavia Fabia Praktik Yeti Superb 8" Touch Android GPS Navi CarPlay in der großen Auswahl bei eBay. Kostenlose Lieferung für viele Artikel!
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I cant learn anything from that.
Yes that is what I thought. The offer does not show any important information. By the way: I would have no problem installing a new head unit from a well-known manufacturer. The fact that I did that with the device in question a year ago was because I had no idea and because it came as a complete kit (that is, including a CAN bus adapter, bezel, etc. ...). However, I do not know where I can find good devices for my Skoda Fabia 2015, or what other options I have.
Rotblitz said:
Yes that is what I thought. The offer does not show any important information. By the way: I would have no problem installing a new head unit from a well-known manufacturer. The fact that I did that with the device in question a year ago was because I had no idea and because it came as a complete kit (that is, including a CAN bus adapter, bezel, etc. ...). However, I do not know where I can find good devices for my Skoda Fabia 2015, or what other options I have.
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Aren’t all head unita compatible with all cars. Search for one from a known manufacturer, and for good value for cash.
your seller seems very shady. This may not even be android 10. Mind checking with this
If you are unable to install it, that means the scammer blocked the app, and it is fake. Otherwise, this will tell you your real android version and other things if it being spoofed?
Hey there
I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
Anton TNT said:
Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
Ubuntu_Man said:
So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
m00n61 said:
FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
Anton TNT said:
If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
del_piero3 said:
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
Anton TNT said:
If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
del_piero3 said:
Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
Anton TNT said:
First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?