Hello,
I am new to this and read alot, but still i hope i don´t do this wrong, please forgive me if I do.
- I have a Mustang 2010 Base model (no Buttons on Steering Wheel)
- I have this Android Head Unit: https://www.zwnav.net/products/tesl...4-gps-navigation-audio-radio-stereo-head-unit
- I bought these Physical buttons and connected them to "Key1" Ground and ACC: https://www.joyingauto.eu/joying-ne...oller-universal-remote-for-android-radio.html
My Question: I don´t get them to work AT ALL. No i saw something that might be the problem:
"The universal Steering wheel control remote only compatible with the universal head unit, it cannot work with the special radio that comes with the canbus adapter."
This might be the problem? As my Unit has a CAN-Bus Decoder for Ford. Is there any way you can think of to make these Buttons work? Any help would be great!
Wishes,
Maria
some head units won't use key 1/key 2 if canbus is present, I'd message seller for advice and research px6 head units as someone may have made a mod to allow it.
ALso, if you have multimeter, tests the resistance across key1 and gnd when you press a steering wheel button it should change on button press, if not, might just be dead battery (or if the battery has an isolator tab)
Thanks for the answer! The Battery is ok. The chineese seller is not answering at all (sadly).
What do you mean with: "nd research px6 head units as someone may have made a mod to allow it."
Is there a special subforum for PX6 units? I am new to this maybe i did oversee that.
Thanks in advance!
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Hello!
Can someone confirm that this Steering wheel control work on the new universal Joying HU's?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NH0ST1T
It has the exact same wires to connect as the Joying SWC but this looks so much better and have more buttons
Cheers
Joying has told me that only the universal head units can use aftermarket SWC buttons. I have a VW-specific model and they don't work.
rotorocks said:
Hello!
Can someone confirm that this Steering wheel control work on the new universal Joying HU's?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NH0ST1T
It has the exact same wires to connect as the Joying SWC but this looks so much better and have more buttons
Cheers
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I have noticed that Joying likes to lie or be ignorant about things.
This is the one that I use in my Kia for my joying intel unit.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4PJC9K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I never needed one until this new intel unit and they keep telling me that I connected it wrong despite my other 2 Joying units working.
Digital 3wire SWC
Simply yes its a digital 3 wire connection.. However just because the wires are hooked up doesnt mean its prograed to know which button is which. This must be done manually. Its the same for Sony or Pioneer.
Hi everyone, I hope to be writing in the appropriate section.
I bought an 8227L android car radio:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_8.jpg
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_6.jpg
And I have a Toyota Yaris II series:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_7.jpg
This morning I successfully mounted the 8227L stereo in my car
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_5.jpg
and everything works fine except the steering wheel controls.
The old original car radio (where steering wheel controls worked) was so connected:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_4.jpg
And when mounting the new autoradio 8227L, I just inserted the cables in the appropriate adapters.
The fact is that as soon as I enter the steering wheel configuration menu, I press START and select a command to associate with a physical steering wheel button, I get an error:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_3.jpg
even trying to reboot:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_2.jpg
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_1.jpg
I still get the same error.
Can u help me in some way? Thank u all in advance!
As a first step, I would put a voltmeter onto the sense wires while pressing each of steering wheel buttons- to confirm that different voltages are available for the head unit to learn
This wil prove or otherwise that the wiring is in order.
Hi Pxdev,
First of all thank you very much for your attention.
At the moment I do not have the possibility to use a voltmeter, however I am sure that the steering wheel controls work (tested up to a few hours before the installation of the new radio) and also the installation of the new radio has simply consisted in disconnecting the 3 connectors ( http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_4.jpg the blue and the two whites) visible in the picture and insert them in the appropriate adapters of the new car radio and insert a single connector in the special housing and everything worked, except, of course, for the steering wheel controls. Is there anything else I could try to do? Many thanks in advance.
Hi,
Have you bought it with the Canbus and cables for your car? I have the exact same unit and the steering wheel works well.
I get the same error , found a video saying ground one wire to radio ground and any one key wire ground radio but doesn't work. If anybody has any solution or troubleshoot guide please let me know .
Checked voltage , voltage from headunit around 3.5v , checked resisitance from each key shows different value for each key. Now what to do?
Did you find a solution to your problem as I'm having the same problem with mine. Same head unit with a Raise can bus installed. The steering wheel controls worked fine when I first bought the car but I decided to delete some of the unused apps and since then the steering wheel controls don't work. I can't even remember the name of the app I deleted. Any help would be grateful.
I have a Bosion PX6 Android 10 head unit.
My car is a Toyota Camry 2010 that came with a basic radio with XM radio and the Bosion 10" is an amazing upgrade for this car.
I am having a problem with the steering wheel controls as they don't set up with the button setup in the vehicle setup menu. I have tried many times with different settings.
The buttons on the left side of the steering wheel sort of work, the ones on the right do not seem to work at all.
In the hidden menu the various CANBUS settings don't really make any difference. There's like 10 different Toyota settings but all act the same as setting the Canbus to 0 (no Canbus?).
Anyone have any suggestions to resolve this?
I'm also looking for Bosion contact info or web page.
okay, the key is in the hidden menu or factory menu, you really need to search (depending in the canbus module you have) the car maker and model.
The canbus must show up and report the version.
The menu you find to setup the buttons in the android will never work.
hang in there you'll get it.
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okay, the key is in the hidden menu or factory menu, you really need to search (depending in the canbus module you have) the car maker and model.
The canbus must show up and report the version.
The menu you find to setup the buttons in the android will never work.
hang in there you'll get it.
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It sounds like you know what you are talking about. Fyi that I have been through the hidden menu. When you say the canbus must show up and report the version, I am not clear on what you mean. I have tried all 7 or 8 Toyota canbus configs and when I select any, the phone loads an associated program and reboots. None are really making any difference, always the left buttons kind of work and nothing on the right.
Any suggestions you have would really be appreciated.
Where you see the kernel version, os version and mcu version you must have also canbus version.
Can't show it to you now but you should see something like simple and version as 1.13.something
If nothing is there, the canbus config is not yet correct and radio can't detect correctly the canbus box. But you say that some steering wheel buttons are working. In this case. It seems to me that the canbus module in the radio is not yet updated to your car or the canbus box firmware is also not with a version where your car is supported. Contact the seller and claim if you still have time for it.
UPDATE: added aftermarket canbus box has corrected 90% of the buttons. The remaining button is the Voice button to issue voice commands to the phone. This is not a choice within the head unit button mapping. I suppose I should try a different car selection (?).
Anyone know if there is a website for Bosion for manuals and updates?
I don't think so :/ I've tried to get some answers from manufacturer but they aren't well informed, i think. Or they are not willing to tell a secret :/
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UPDATE: added aftermarket canbus box has corrected 90% of the buttons. The remaining button is the Voice button to issue voice commands to the phone. This is not a choice within the head unit button mapping. I suppose I should try a different car selection (?).
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what can bus did you buy? for what car?
The car was a Toyota Camry.
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what can bus did you buy? for what car?
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Sorry for the delay, I have an aftermarket box from PAC called SW1-RC-1 which works 95% perfectly and allowed me to program the buttons as normal.
I have a 2010 Toyota Camry.
The only issue is the Bosion PX6 Android "10" is that in the setup for the canbus within the head unit, there is no button to map to for the voice button to on the steering wheel. Seems like a very odd issue as the voice button is so normal and I'm still looking for an update or a way to find that button in settings.
Seeing if anyone has any input here to possibly assist getting on of the new Joying Android 10 units working with the steering wheel controls on my 2008 350Z. I just cannot wrap my head around this. I don't believe my car has CANBUS but there seems to be no real concrete info. If not, I've read some conflicting items here. There's 2 plugs on the car harness that went to the stock radio that don't seem to have an equivalent to the aftermarket harness or unit. Can they be adapted somehow
There are universal adapters but I read that you have to splice and solder IN THE CAR for this **** to actually work? What a nightmare. Is there anything that I can pre-wire that just works? The AXXESS and PAC unit seem to require an engineering degree to figure out in addition to splicing the factory harness. This all seems so ridiculously difficult, there has to be a better way here.
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Seeing if anyone has any input here to possibly assist getting on of the new Joying Android 10 units working with the steering wheel controls on my 2008 350Z. I just cannot wrap my head around this. I don't believe my car has CANBUS but there seems to be no real concrete info. If not, I've read some conflicting items here. There's 2 plugs on the car harness that went to the stock radio that don't seem to have an equivalent to the aftermarket harness or unit. Can they be adapted somehow
There are universal adapters but I read that you have to splice and solder IN THE CAR for this **** to actually work? What a nightmare. Is there anything that I can pre-wire that just works? The AXXESS and PAC unit seem to require an engineering degree to figure out in addition to splicing the factory harness. This all seems so ridiculously difficult, there has to be a better way here.
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What is your unit, post info including MCU, joying means zip.
Yes, please post additional information. It looks like there should be an AXXESS module for your steering wheel controls. You have to indicate which trim option you have...base audio, standard audio or Bose. Here:
https://axxessinterfaces.com/products?Year=2008&Make=Nissan&Model=350Z&TrimOption[]=Base%20audio&TrimOption[]=BOSE&TrimOption[]=Standard%20Audio
You can update the trim on that page to be specific to your car. I took a quick look at the instructions and CAN-HI and CAN-LO so it looks like it's possible yours has a Canbus interface. If yours does, not sure if the AXXESS modules will help. If you don't need a canbus module for anything else, then you could possibly use the AXXESS module just for the steering wheel controls on the canbus interface.
I used an AXXESS module for my 2012 Kia Sorento as the amplifier and sound required it. It came with a steering wheel control module as well. Took a bit, but finally set it up as needed. The best thing you can get is a schematic for your car as it will show details about your steering wheel buttons and how they communicate / are wired to the head unit. Get the schematic and you can set up the buttons. Mine, however, does not have or require canbus.
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What is your unit, post info including MCU, joying means zip.
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Can't find this info anywhere. Not in the box, not in the Amazon order, not in any of the menus etc. I'm super surprised how difficult it is to find.
mastrv said:
Yes, please post additional information. It looks like there should be an AXXESS module for your steering wheel controls. You have to indicate which trim option you have...base audio, standard audio or Bose. Here:
https://axxessinterfaces.com/products?Year=2008&Make=Nissan&Model=350Z&TrimOption[]=Base%20audio&TrimOption[]=BOSE&TrimOption[]=Standard%20Audio
You can update the trim on that page to be specific to your car. I took a quick look at the instructions and CAN-HI and CAN-LO so it looks like it's possible yours has a Canbus interface. If yours does, not sure if the AXXESS modules will help. If you don't need a canbus module for anything else, then you could possibly use the AXXESS module just for the steering wheel controls on the canbus interface.
I used an AXXESS module for my 2012 Kia Sorento as the amplifier and sound required it. It came with a steering wheel control module as well. Took a bit, but finally set it up as needed. The best thing you can get is a schematic for your car as it will show details about your steering wheel buttons and how they communicate / are wired to the head unit. Get the schematic and you can set up the buttons. Mine, however, does not have or require canbus.
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Thanks for the info, but this is nearly impossible for me to understand. The tech docs for this AXXESS make zero sense at all. I don't see any of the items pointed out in the documents on my harness for either the car or the radio. They simply do not exist. I don't get how there are zero plug and play options for this. I don't see any options for Canbus for my car either. Whenever I Google this, I only find info related to LS1 swaps (meaning those who put an older Corvette motor into their 350Z). So frustrating.
Well, let's start with a couple of questions:
Sounds like you've already installed the head unit...correct?
What is the Joying model number?
Do you have schematics for your car? If not, can you get them? These will definitively inform what wires to use. With the buttons on your steering wheel, like volume up and down, they went to your factory head unit to change the volume. This information either went directly to the factory head unit for it to interpret or went through the canbus where the factory radio also obtained this information
Did the harness you used have a can bus module? It's a small box with a lot of wires going in and out.
Whether or not you used or need a canbus module is another question. What kinds of other things did your old factory head unit do:
Did you have bluetooth phone built-in?
Rear view factory camera?
Rear factory radar?
If your factory head unit was fairly basic, then you may not need a canbus module. Please post a picture of your dash...maybe a couple with the gauges and another for the center stalk where the radio and the climate controls go...also a picture of the steering wheel buttons. These will help inform the likeliness of having or needing a canbus module.
Not sure if you know what a canbus module looks like. This page shows 5 different types/manufacturers of canbus modules:
CANBUS settings
cc2.teyes.ru
If you don't need a canbus module, you need to figure out which wires to use to connect to the Android head unit.
Thanks for your continued responses and help mastrv. I'll answer your questions as best I can:
Sounds like you've already installed the head unit - Yes. I had an older Joying unit since 2016. The same harness can be used so it was a simple swap out after the not-so-simple task of pulling the entire center console away from the car.
What is the Joying model number? - I don't see this anywhere at all. Not in About Device, not in other menus, not on the box, not on the unit, not on the Amazon order, not on the Amazon product page. I cannot find this info whatsoever, and I have looked for it thoroughly.
Do you have the schematics for your car? If not, can you get them? No, and maybe at best. I don't know what I'm looking for here. There are two plugs that went to the factory CD player that go unused on the aftermarket harness. It's absolutely mindboggling there isn't an adapter for this.
Did the harness you used have a can bus module? I don't know, but I don't see anything resembling this in my car.
Did you have bluetooth phone built-in? Nope.
Rear view factory camera? Nope.
Rear factory radar? Nope.
As for the rest, I'll need to do so over the weekend. The entire cernter console has to be removed in this car to replace the head unit. This is why it's absolutely not possible for me to do things like solder inside the vehicle, and majority of these items are tucked away. How does AXXESS or PAC expect users to install this garbage? There isn't any space for it, and they label wiring that doesn't even exist in this car! Why not just made a single adapter and be done with it?
mastrv said:
Well, let's start with a couple of questions:
Sounds like you've already installed the head unit...correct?
What is the Joying model number?
Do you have schematics for your car? If not, can you get them? These will definitively inform what wires to use. With the buttons on your steering wheel, like volume up and down, they went to your factory head unit to change the volume. This information either went directly to the factory head unit for it to interpret or went through the canbus where the factory radio also obtained this information
Did the harness you used have a can bus module? It's a small box with a lot of wires going in and out.
Whether or not you used or need a canbus module is another question. What kinds of other things did your old factory head unit do:
Did you have bluetooth phone built-in?
Rear view factory camera?
Rear factory radar?
If your factory head unit was fairly basic, then you may not need a canbus module. Please post a picture of your dash...maybe a couple with the gauges and another for the center stalk where the radio and the climate controls go...also a picture of the steering wheel buttons. These will help inform the likeliness of having or needing a canbus module.
Not sure if you know what a canbus module looks like. This page shows 5 different types/manufacturers of canbus modules:
CANBUS settings
cc2.teyes.ru
If you don't need a canbus module, you need to figure out which wires to use to connect to the Android head unit.
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From the information you've provided, it's most likely that you don't need a canbus at all...especially since your old unit didn't have one.
The only thing you're concerned about is the steering wheel controls, right?
Only thing that needs to be determined is which wires to be used for the steering wheel controls.
OK. I think I've found some good info for your model. The info doesn't have 2008 but it's for a 2007 and I think the 2008 is the same. This has information about the wires to use from the factory harness that connected to the old stereo:
https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/forced-induction/360447d1390787670-finally-repurpose-your-steering-wheel-buttons-for-forced-induction-infiniti350zradiobuttonboxgeneralinstallguider1-7.pdf
It's for something called a Radio Button Box for racing applications. The install details the wires to use. On pages 2 and 3 it shows a piece of a schematic and identifies wires for Remote Control A, Remote Control B and Remote Control Ground. These would directly attach to Key1 and Key2 on the Android Head unit and any ground. On page 3 it also talks about how to test measure with a multi-meter to make sure these are the correct wires. The wires are in M39 connector:
Remote Control A is pin 22 and coloured R/G, Red and Green
Remote Control B is pin 23 and coloured OR, Orange
Remote Control Ground is pin 25 Y, Yellow
There is also a picture of the connector and it shows the wires from back and front. I think it shows the connector for an Infiniti G35, which is identical to the 350Z except for the wire colours.
I think you may not need any module and can connect those directly to the Android head unit...and then use the steering wheel control app to map them as you like.
FYI, the picture of the steering wheel controls includes a rocker for Volume up/down, buttons for Mode beside a Power button and a Prev/Next rocker.
FYI, the my350z site has much information and there is an Audio/Video section:
Audio & Video - MY350Z.COM - Nissan 350Z and 370Z Forum Discussion
Audio & Video - 350Z Mobile entertainment and other electronics
my350z.com
mastrv said:
From the information you've provided, it's most likely that you don't need a canbus at all...especially since your old unit didn't have one.
The only thing you're concerned about is the steering wheel controls, right?
Only thing that needs to be determined is which wires to be used for the steering wheel controls.
OK. I think I've found some good info for your model. The info doesn't have 2008 but it's for a 2007 and I think the 2008 is the same. This has information about the wires to use from the factory harness that connected to the old stereo:
https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/forced-induction/360447d1390787670-finally-repurpose-your-steering-wheel-buttons-for-forced-induction-infiniti350zradiobuttonboxgeneralinstallguider1-7.pdf
It's for something called a Radio Button Box for racing applications. The install details the wires to use. On pages 2 and 3 it shows a piece of a schematic and identifies wires for Remote Control A, Remote Control B and Remote Control Ground. These would directly attach to Key1 and Key2 on the Android Head unit and any ground. On page 3 it also talks about how to test measure with a multi-meter to make sure these are the correct wires. The wires are in M39 connector:
Remote Control A is pin 22 and coloured R/G, Red and Green
Remote Control B is pin 23 and coloured OR, Orange
Remote Control Ground is pin 25 Y, Yellow
There is also a picture of the connector and it shows the wires from back and front. I think it shows the connector for an Infiniti G35, which is identical to the 350Z except for the wire colours.
I think you may not need any module and can connect those directly to the Android head unit...and then use the steering wheel control app to map them as you like.
FYI, the picture of the steering wheel controls includes a rocker for Volume up/down, buttons for Mode beside a Power button and a Prev/Next rocker.
FYI, the my350z site has much information and there is an Audio/Video section:
Audio & Video - MY350Z.COM - Nissan 350Z and 370Z Forum Discussion
Audio & Video - 350Z Mobile entertainment and other electronics
my350z.com
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Thanks again mastvr! Still really confused on this. So, my harness to the Joying unit has a pink Key 1 and brown Key 2 wires. What I don't get here is how I'm connecting to the car here. Soldering is pretty much off the table. I'm also very leary of cutting anything factory in the vehicle, although I guess if I HAVE to, maybe I would. My apprehension here is that if I cut something, and it's wrong, I'm going to end up with a hacked up factory harness that I neither have the skills, space, equipment or otherwise know-how to fix. That's why I sincerely wish there was something I could just adapt in a plug-and-play fashion. So completely frustrated with this.
If you don't have a connector for the plug in the link I provided, you can always use a t-tap connector so you don't have to cut it...or maybe there's some module you can use.
Anyway, there's enough info to make sure those are the correct wires. So, good luck with the rest.
Hi there. I searched (at least I tried for several hours without luck) this forum and the internet in general.
I have bought a ES8113M from Erisin (https://erisin.de/products/-655) with Android 10 preinstalled and a RN-SS-01 canbus decoder. The issue is that the steering wheel controller is not working. Does anyone have managed to connect the canbus of their Megane to the Android head unit?
Please tell me if you need more info. I am happy for every litte hint on PIN Layouts, factory setting, firmware upgrades or anything else.
Thanks in advance
What did seller suggest when contacted for support?
Is this an FYT based unit?
Thanks @marchnz for your quick reply and thereby help .
Support is poor. I asked two times over two different channels but did not get any answer yet.
Sorry to ask, I am new to Android head units. What do you mean FYT unit? Do you mean the MicroControlerUnit (MCU)-type? Then it's a S32F0 or LEIMA?
It says S32F0_LEIMA-W 20201020-17:05 HD1_7708_D_FF_C8
Oh I see you may ask because I posted to FYT Android head units. If this was wrong sorry and maybe a moderator will provide help and move to the appropriate sub forum (thanks).
@Badger50 thanks for moving this thread to the right forum. I hope someone still reads older (like in days ;-) threads and is able to help and or ask questions for me to better understand and hopefully solve my issue....
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@Badger50 thanks for moving this thread to the right forum. I hope someone still reads older (like in days ;-) threads and is able to help and or ask questions for me to better understand and hopefully solve my issue....
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Is there a possibility to connect the shown connector directly to the radio?
Did you get the right cable tree from the seller? Normally the CAN adapter is connected in between the car-cable tree and the radio.
Is this the right CAN adapter for this radio, provided by the radio seller?
Thank you @rigattoni for your reply. And yes, the Canbus-Decoder ist connected to the Megane on the one side (for power and canbus signal) and the radio (see pinout picture from erisin). I would confirm this as you say it's "normally". I think and hope I have the right harness. At least the QR code says for MEGANE 2 and the website / the seller state it is especially designed and adapted for the Megane 2 (https://erisin.de/products/erisin-e...wifi-4g-dvd-obd-canbus-swc-für-renault-megane).
I did some more digging and analising today. Here are the colors of the ISO-Adapter with the according functions as far as I could find out on the internet (First screenshot). I also compared the cables from the harness and the radio to the canbus adapter (second screenshot). And finally I checked the connections to the radio and the link from there to the canbus adapter again (third screenshot).
It would be nice if someone could confirm some functions and if especially the canbus connections from the harness are the same with your knowledge (at best from another Renault Megane CC2 driver ).
Also I am curious if someone can shre more intel on the canbus cables of a Megane convertible 2.
What if the wiring is fine. I measured 5V between RN-SS-01 PIN3 / PIN4 and GND. To me that makes sense for a canbus information channel... Lots of messages on high...
Can someone provide the correct parameters for the Android head unit? I did a factory reset, an android reset and a SD0 card wipe. Unfortunately the car settings and factory settings remain as I did set them during testing.
For the canbus type (in the factory settings) I think it was 0x00 OFF when I first installed it. I cannot select it from the "select your model" screen (see above, RN-SS-01 missing). But I can set it to 0x85 RENAULT MEGANE SP...
Any intel on what canbus type should work? And how can I test it? In the car settings there is a menu entry steering wheel settings... I did reset it during testing and now even if I press a button on the steering wheel control, nothing happens. I would assume it should pop up a message on which button recognized and ask for what to map it to...
Sorry I am a bloody n00b here....
Sorry for starting this thread, but I would like to finish it with an easy statement: My car hasn't CANBUS (because manufactured >>before 2005<<). So I needed to go with an analogue adapter.
After a very friendly and productive phone call with a German vendor I bought this one here:
https://www.niq.de/lenkradfernbedie...---Scenic---Trafic-Bj--Ab-2000-fuer-auna.html.
From there on very easy to install. Connect the ISO cables from the car to the ISO adapter from NIQ and the departing cables to the ISO connector from the ERISIN head unit. Additionally and to get the steering wheel control working I had to connect SWC1, SWC2 and GND from the NIQ-adapter to the head unit.
Thanks for everyone reading and helping. CASE_SOLVED
Hello, I ordered multimedia for megane 2 ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...020888279!sea!BG!0&curPageLogUid=eazK1RuTtlpe) but the can-bus decoder doesn't work, I ordered another one from another dealer but the coupler is smaller, is it possible to connect the wires to the new one. The new one is labeled "Megane 2" and I got it with cables but they don't fit...