Fire 10 HD + toolbox + Google messages app - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone been able to get the Google messages app to work on a Kindle 8 or 10? The app crashes when trying to set it as the default sms handler. This seems like a required step before being able to pair it with a cellphone and something that obviously the Kindle wasn't designed to support.
Any workarounds would be much appreciated. Would be very nice to be able to pair with my cellphone and send/receive texts from the Kindle.

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[Q] kindle Fire Messaging options

Hey guys. thanks for having so much available info on damn near everything. I have been looking but still have not found what im looking for, so i have made a new thread. First off i have the moto triumph cm7.08 rooted. Next the kindle fire rooted(stock os). I was trying to find a way i could send txts from my kindle when its wireless tethered to my moto using the hot spot built in to the cm7. i used to have an app that let me tethered my old Samsung to a computer and i was able to send and receive the messages right from my puter. Any help or guidance will be appreciated. thanks in advance.
google voice works great
Yeah, Google Voice is what I use.
thanks to the both of you I got it working on my phone and the voice calling aspect is odd i have to press 1 to accept any call now coming in which is a bit annoying, i looked in settings and did see anything to stop that but i was on mass public transport so it did not have 100% of my attention. anyways thanks again.
Ok I think I go it working.... nope any input would be awesome.
Voice is fine if you already use it, but for those of us that don't it would require giving out a new number to everyone you know. Unless I missed something, that isn't very feasible for all of us.
I would think some kind of remote control or text forwarding app would be better... I would like to send and receive txt from my cell number on my kindle, and I think that's what the op was wanting as well
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screwyluie said:
Voice is fine if you already use it, but for those of us that don't it would require giving out a new number to everyone you know. Unless I missed something, that isn't very feasible for all of us.
I would think some kind of remote control or text forwarding app would be better... I would like to send and receive txt from my cell number on my kindle, and I think that's what the op was wanting as well
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thats what im saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had to tell everyone i got a new number and all garbage and when someone calls me its a pain in the ass having to press the "1" key to accept the call b4 it goes to voicemail.
I use this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.desktopsms&hl=en for texting
I just reviewed that app and that looks like its for desk tops or laptops. Im trying to keep my phone in my pocket and test from my kindle fire which is connected through the internet on my phone hotspot or barnacle both work on my phone (cm7 tinkerguys beta.08)
Simple for me is using yahoo! Messenger. I already have an account, and can txt to any number I choose, not just those on my list. It goes to the recipient as my yahoo screen name and when they reply to the txt, I get it in my messenger on my kindle. Great free, no tethering required option. But I still have to be connected to wifi, so maybe not the option you're looking for.
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But again I doubt this is transparent, in other words the people you send texts to don't see it as your cellphone that is sending the text, this would confuse some people... looking for transparency here
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foxdog66 said:
I use this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.desktopsms&hl=en for texting
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Right idea, wrong device... need this for the fire not the Pc.
Ive been working on getting vnc going, its kinds clunky but it works... however I cant seem to get past the lock screen on the phone... if i manually unlock the phone I can fully control it... getting close to a solution though.
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screwyluie said:
Right idea, wrong device... need this for the fire not the Pc.
Ive been working on getting vnc going, its kinds clunky but it works... however I cant seem to get past the lock screen on the phone... if i manually unlock the phone I can fully control it... getting close to a solution though.
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I choose Google talk (on desk SMS) then sign out of talk on my phone, sign into talk on kindle and i get messages, reply etc
foxdog66 said:
I choose Google talk (on desk SMS) then sign out of talk on my phone, sign into talk on kindle and i get messages, reply etc
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Wow good idea I did not think of that
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k3v00 said:
thats what im saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had to tell everyone i got a new number and all garbage and when someone calls me its a pain in the ass having to press the "1" key to accept the call b4 it goes to voicemail.
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I got rid of the Press 1 to answer by changing the default for Call Screening under SETTINGS, CALLS (Set to OFF / Directly connects calls when phones are answered)
Go to. voice.google.com and click on the round gear in the top right corner of the page.
foxdog66 said:
I choose Google talk (on desk SMS) then sign out of talk on my phone, sign into talk on kindle and i get messages, reply etc
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that IS a good idea, let me check into this, thanks
Receives... doesn't send my replies though... hmmm
Edit: it would seem miui is overly protective and was asking for permission to let desksms send messages... all sorted, works awesome, little bit of a delay but it does work.
I don't like how it takes over the messaging app on my phone, but its not the end of the world
Thanks for the help
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Anyway to forward calls and/or texts from my iPhone 4s to my N7?

Tablet talk looks awesome but from what I can tell it requires the tab and the phone to have the app - clearly ios does not run tablet talk (unless I'm mistaken here)... Is there an app which will allow my calls and/or texts to be forwarded from the iPhone to the nexus?
You could always use the the iPhone to Android phone upgrade system. Contact your phone provider and they have a selection of great Android phones which will work just fine. Then load Tablet Talk and yer up and running.
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As for using it WITH an iPhone... not a clue.
Way to help out!
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krelvinaz said:
You could always use the the iPhone to Android phone upgrade system. Contact your phone provider and they have a selection of great Android phones which will work just fine. Then load Tablet Talk and yer up and running.
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Definitely the best option
randroid123 said:
Tablet talk looks awesome but from what I can tell it requires the tab and the phone to have the app - clearly ios does not run tablet talk (unless I'm mistaken here)... Is there an app which will allow my calls and/or texts to be forwarded from the iPhone to the nexus?
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You could use YouMail instead of the native voicemail to access voicemail.
You could use Google Voice and Talkatone to have both calls and texts. I can use my iPad or my Nexus 7 to even make calls with Talkatone. Talkatone will step you through how to set up with Google Voice properly. Of course you have to have a Google Voice number, but that is free.
krelvinaz said:
You could always use the the iPhone to Android phone upgrade system. Contact your phone provider and they have a selection of great Android phones which will work just fine. Then load Tablet Talk and yer up and running.
As for using it WITH an iPhone... not a clue.
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Are you serious? I don't believe such a program exists... I would rather have an android phone but got the 4s back in January for the camera quality (which I still haven't found an android device to match) other than that I'm android all the way but my iPhone works fine, not gonna drop hundreds of dollars on a new phone that I don't NEED just to maintain my android snobiness...
If you're jailbroken you can install Wifisms from Cydia. Then just use your phones IP and login on your N7 browser. It doesn't send notifications though.
Or, also if you're jailbroken, install notifypro from cydia, then install growl on both your PC and N7. Set your 4s to send notifications to the PC and then have the PC forward them to the N7. You'll receive notifications and can respond to the texts via your N7.
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christanya99 said:
If you're jailbroken you can install Wifisms from Cydia. Then just use your phones IP and login on your N7 browser. It doesn't send notifications though.
Or, also if you're jailbroken, install notifypro from cydia, then install growl on both your PC and N7. Set your 4s to send notifications to the PC and then have the PC forward them to the N7. You'll receive notifications and can respond to the texts via your N7.
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I am jailbroken... Can I not just forward the texts straight to growl on my N7 without bouncing through the PC?
I've tried but the two can't seem to find each other without the PC. If I figure that out I'll pm you.
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[Q] Best app for Nexus 7 as phone with GV

So I have decided to pick up a Nexus 7 to use as my primary phone. I will be using a T-Mobile hot spot when mobile, and possibly a spare Android phone to throw in my pocket when the tablet just isn't a possibility. I will of course be using Google Voice with an app for calls and SMS. 99.99% of my phone use is just text or data. I am currently using talkatone free, which seems to work ok except the fact there is no notifications for SMS. I have to open the app and "check sms" just to receive them. I want an app that will show a new message notification in the notifications bar. One that would light up the tablet would be ok as well. I have seen there are some other apps, but I don't want to start buying up apps just to find out they still don't do what I am looking for. Any suggestions?
I use Tablet Talk, its well worth the money.
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I use Tablet Talk, its well worth the money.
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How does it display new messages?
Just like your phone, a notification with your choice of ringtone, and a messaging interface
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Keep in mind that Tablet Talk will use your plans minutes and text messages. It simply syncs your phones texts and phone calls to your tablet. If you want to make phone calls going through GV then I would recommend talkatone. Ive used many of the apps that claim to make calls through your gmail account but all have failed, except talkatone. Yes, there is a slight delay but its not that bad. On other apps the delay would be 1min or more which is totally unacceptable. Stick with talkatone, its free and it works. I have been using it for a while now and have noticed quality and delay improvements as it has been updated.
My problem with Talkatone is that I don't get SMS notifications. I have to open the app and "check SMS" every time before it gives me the new ones. I can't seem to find any option in there that would turn on notifications or auto sync. This is annoying as I have to proactively be checking for messages all the time instead of just being notified.
A friend is running the same app on his iPad and when he gets a new SMS message it plays a ring tone and shows an number in the upper right of the app icon showing he has a new message. Mine does neither. Then again he is on premium, is this possibly only a feature of premium? I just have no desire spending $3-5 on apps just to find out they lack this basic feature which kills them.
Well it's not a premium feature as I went premium and it still suffers from the same issue. I don't THINK it's a setting on the N7 itself, as I receive notification for other apps just fine.
Try to contact the developer
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[Q] Auto Forward Text Messages 3G nexus 7

Hi,
I have recently been given a work phone and don't want to carry two phones.
I would like to keep my personal number so will continue that contract. I will set my carrier setting to auto forward calls to my work phone, but I would like a way to auto-forward SMS (text) messages to my work number, or email.
I have a nexus 7 3g and this seems like a good device to use as I can then still make use of my personal phone contract's internet access.
I installed the mms.apk app (thread found else where in this forum) and can now send and receive texts from my Nexus 7. But as it is not with me every day I want an automated way to get SMS messages to another number of email.
Does anyone know of an app which will let me auto forward SMS messages to a different number or to email? I'm happy to pay for the outbound message cost, but the only app I have found which *claims* compatibility is phoneleash and it does not forward anything.
Does anyone have a suggestion for how I can accomplish this?
Thanks
T.
You could just use an app that sends texts to the tablet like Cloud SMS. Then you could turn off the notifications on the phone.
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Thanks for the reply, but I think I have not been clear with my request.
I have a personal contract which my friends know the number for.
I want to keep this SIM in my tablet but forward any SMS message sent to my personal number to a work phone, so that I can just carry the work phone.
I have found Auto SMS since my last update, but this is not compatible with the nexus 7. I will see if there is a way to get this app to work.
I will update if I get any further.
T.
have you try mighty text? try that one first
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Thanks for the further replies here.
I don't think mighty text will work, it seems to be a way to read and reply to texts received on your phone, but handled by a tablet or computer as the viewing device.
I need a way to auto forward SMS messages to a different number.
Regards
Tony.
Progress
OK, I installed auto SMS onto my touchpad and then used titanium backup to extract the application.
I've side loaded this onto my nexus 7 and so far my tests have been successful.
The auto forwarded text messages come through as
<0123 123123> Mr FirstName SecondName: Content of message
I can either call the originator back, or switch to a new message and reply back directly via SMS from the work phone.
Thanks
T.
Acuum4 said:
OK, I installed auto SMS onto my touchpad and then used titanium backup to extract the application.
I've side loaded this onto my nexus 7 and so far my tests have been successful.
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I have the same problem as you, but I can't find auto SMS or extract the application (Nexus 7 is my only Android device).
Can you please share it somehow?
Thanks in advance!
Edit: in meanwhile I found and installed it, works well

Verizon wear24 Message app

Hi
I'm trying to get Android messenger working on this. I have message+ disable and cellular also disabled.. I gave Android message permissions but when I click on watch face with message logo
says no app installed.
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Hi
I'm trying to get Android messenger working on this. I have message+ disable and cellular also disabled.. I gave Android message permissions but when I click on watch face with message logo
says no app installed.
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Yeah, the Verizon face sucks, not much customization but you should be able do it in the android wear app on the phone, works for me. Just remove the message app tab and re add it ( first install the android messanger)
Use different face, watchmaker is great
Hi, I was able to change faces and such, but still unable to send messages with the android app and message+ is disabled. Also my microphone seems to not work, ok google doesn't work and a voice call the other person could not hear me.
kinda a pain. thx
I struggled with it for a bit as well. so what i had to do was do a factory reset (after updating wear 2.0). then somehow, i paired it to my phone, but skipped the rest of the initial setup stuff it wants you to do like giving it your phone number and setting up vzw message. first thing i did was disable all of the system apps like "phone" and "vzw messages" and/or wear24 app. Never having opened vzw messages, i downloaded google messages from play store. It works great now. google now works perfectly. i don't try to make phone calls off of it so can't help you with that part. but make sure you turn the cellular radio off after every reboot (just to save battery).
this is an amazing whatch for someone like me who does not *want* to have an lte watch. I just wanted a bluetooth only watch with a high res screen, big battery, modern wear processor for $80 shipped. - nfc and heartrate and swappable bands would be nice, but oh well. It gives me all of my notifications so i don't have to take out a phone during meetings and it's much snappier than my urbane was. - nfc, heartrate, and swappable bands would be nice, but oh well.
I've disabled msg+ and installed android messenger.
I can receive texts, but the only way I can send a text is via google assistant because even though the app is installed, the icon wont show in the app drawer.
But after I go through the voice process (send txt to blah blah blah), it errors out on sending it.
I've granted all permissions
Since there are not many Wear24 threads here I will see if any of you can help.
I agree with mistermojorizin - for the price it is now if is a good watch. My issues is this:
I want to use LTE and have it working fine. I can send and response to messages from Message+ (ugh), but when I use google assistant to send a message - which I have done often with other watches - I says sending with watch and hangs on a spinning wheel.
Anyone else see this and have a suggestion? If I could change the app that Assistant uses to send the message to Message+ that might solve the issue, but I haven't see how to do that.
dragonash said:
I've disabled msg+ and installed android messenger.
I can receive texts, but the only way I can send a text is via google assistant because even though the app is installed, the icon wont show in the app drawer.
But after I go through the voice process (send txt to blah blah blah), it errors out on sending it.
I've granted all permissions
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If you try and send text message but it says send from watch and just sits there spinning, you need to disable VZW from sim info. That will also help battery life too. Only thing not working on my watch is the mic in a call. I'm using it with BT/WiFi only with my P2XL on T-Mobile.
I have installed Android Messenger and it works for me with the voice to text, I like that one a lot.
The watch in general is great, I wish that the speaker was louder (as I thought that it will be) and the NFC to be working. I paid $94 CAD for it, you can't even get a used Moto360 first gen in good condition for this price, never mind a high end device.
The band could be replaced, if you don't have Verizon for a provider why would anyone care for the antenna anyway? I have a Moto360 first gen and this is better with the Android Wear 2.0 and bigger battery, after 11 hours of moderate usage I am at 51% of battery remainig which is pretty decent.
Happy so far
vwauditech said:
If you try and send text message but it says send from watch and just sits there spinning, you need to disable VZW from sim info. That will also help battery life too. Only thing not working on my watch is the mic in a call. I'm using it with BT/WiFi only with my P2XL on T-Mobile.
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Thanks for the siminfo trick. I think that might have done the job for getting voice assistant to use android messages instead of Verizon messages+. Before that, I could respond to text messages but just couldn't initiate a message using voice.
I also disabled the Verizon apps where I could. And I "deleted" Verizon as a carrier altogether (in the siminfo area). The other things I did to get going (and not wait for the system/google updates) was to sideload android wear 2.8, google play services, and finally the google app using ADB on my iMac. It needed all three it appeared.
Here's the command for ADB:
adb connect [IP of your watchort] (I didn't use a port)
adb install -r [app.apk]
Liking the wear24 quite a bit so far as compared to my old Moto 360 1st gen which is still going strong after a battery replacement. Kind of wish the watch diameter was as wide as the Moto 360. I'll do a video comparison of the two soon (makethistechwork.com).
Unable to send text via assistant after following steps
vwauditech said:
If you try and send text message but it says send from watch and just sits there spinning, you need to disable VZW from sim info. That will also help battery life too. Only thing not working on my watch is the mic in a call. I'm using it with BT/WiFi only with my P2XL on T-Mobile.
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Thank you for the info! I'm using this watch with a Pixel XL and Tmobile just like you. However, even after disable version from the sim info, it still doesn't work. I have the same issue as before where it says that could not connect to a phone. I've included some screenshots showing my sim-info to illustrate what I'm talking about. Kindly suggest anything else that I can do since I've tried everything including factory resets.Thanks!
After updating the wear app and android messages, I can see previews of all my text threads, but when I tap the threads, messages crashes. Has anyone else seen this with all the recent updates?
EDIT: After futzing with permissions for a few seemingly related apps, Messages no longer crashes on me. I could swear I had already tried all of the changes I made this last round, but maybe I missed one every other time. If anyone else runs into this, I'll be happy to share permission settings to see if it helps.
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After updating the wear app and android messages, I can see previews of all my text threads, but when I tap the threads, messages crashes. Has anyone else seen this with all the recent updates?
EDIT: After futzing with permissions for a few seemingly related apps, Messages no longer crashes on me. I could swear I had already tried all of the changes I made this last round, but maybe I missed one every other time. If anyone else runs into this, I'll be happy to share permission settings to see if it helps.
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If You wouldn't mind sharing what You did/have set for Perms I would appreciate it.
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If You wouldn't mind sharing what You did/have set for Perms I would appreciate it.
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Sure. First, I'll mention that I have removed all of the VZ carrier information, as suggested in this thread, as I don't use nor plan to use VZ, so that may or may not have anything to do with it.
I also disabled Message+, the default text app, in system app settings. I did not touch permissions there.
On to permissions... I pretty much went with all or nothing, looking through system apps and messing with anything that might have to do with messaging...
Android Messages: All on
Phone: All on
Wear OS: All on except storage
As I said, I had reset the phone a few times, and the last time, directly off of reset, my order was: update Google and WearOS system apps, disable Message+, install Android Messages, change permissions, open Android Messages. I didn't try to open Messages until after checking permissions.

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