What is the difference between "USB-C to HDMI Adapter" and "MHL"? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

When I search if Samsung Galaxy S8 supports MHL or not, I am getting crazy.
50% of online articles say S8 does not support MHL including mhltech.org link and technipages
Another 50% of online articles say S8 supports MHL.
It obviously supports USB-C to HDMI Adapter which is only one side with Type-C port and another side with HDMI port cable.
If S8 does NOT support MHL, what is the difference between "USB-C to HDMI Adapter" and "MHL"?
Does "USB-C to HDMI Adapter" have worse video output than "MHL"?
Thanks a lot.

The Galaxy S8 uses Displayport alternate mode for video signal.
This is a "standard" feature of the USB-C standard.
You can use a USB-C to HDMI adapter, but you can directly connect USB-C screens to the phone.
Another advantage is that it supports charging the phone in the meantime (using USB power delivery).
USB-C supports ultra-HD screens and several monitors (but not with the S8).
MHL was used on older Samsung devices which sent video signal over a micro-USB connector.
This is somewhat of a hack, as micro-USB wasn't indended for video signal.
So yes, USB-C is much better than the old MHL standard.

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SGS2 accessories listed on Clove

Some really interesting ones! Prices are reasonable.
http://www.clove.co.uk/accessories/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100/cables-and-chargers
Unfortunately no availability till June
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1057
wow some really nice looking extras, im glad they decided to add them this time around, i believe the desktop dock shown also has an AUX output in the back to play music on large speakers, however if this is true, i dont see an AUX input on the dock, so it must stream the audio thru microusb, and then out through AUX, very interesting, but seems likely, since the implementation of MHL!
Nice find, thanks.
From what I've heard it sounds like Samsung are not supplying the MHL or USB OTG adapters in the retail box, which is a great shame and rather poor really. Can't say I'm surprised, because Samsung have tended to follow this practice with their previous flagships also.
^ Correct, MHL cable listed on Clove website as an accessory...
Let me ask this. This is an MHL port, meaning I can plug in a regular mini HDMI or mini USB(or micro, if that's what it is) like normal? Or do I need a converter cable?
On the SGS II, MHL runs over the physical microUSB interface. It can output straight to 1080p HDMI w/ audio (and charge at the same time) as well as use it as a USB host OTG device. You'll probably have to use the adapter cable to get HDMI working. If you want to charge over MHL, you'll also need an MHL-compliant TV but you can still charge normally using another cable while simultaneously outputting video.
So yes, chances are you do need some sort of adapter cable, at the very least microUSB to HDMI.
For outputting HDMI you need an MHL cable, thats all. If you want to charge and output at the same time you need a dongle (soon TVs that support charging over MHL will come out, and then the cable will handle both, in addition to letting the TV remote control the playback device).

[SOLVED] MHl without adapter?

Hello,
my screen supports MHL out of the box - a cable followed along with it.
Do I really have to buy the S4 MHL Adapter for getting it to work?
EDIT:
Thanks for answers! Looks like it requires 11PIN MHL
ColdIce23 said:
Hello,
my screen supports MHL out of the box - a cable followed along with it.
Do I really have to buy the S4 MHL Adapter for getting it to work?
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You will need a MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter
SevenD2 said:
You will need a MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter
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That's what followed along with my screen, a MHL cable (microusb to HDMI)
ColdIce23 said:
That's what followed along with my screen, a MHL cable (microusb to HDMI)
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Then it should work, you should try, if it's going through the micro usb then theres not high chance it will brick your phone
SevenD2 said:
Then it should work, you should try, if it's going through the micro usb then theres not high chance it will brick your phone
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Well, it's a 5-pin MHL to HDMI, is that the problem?
Wikipedia said:
Connectors
As noted in the 'Features' section, the MHL standard is connector agnostic. The different types of connections, include:
5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The first implementations use the most popular mobile connection (micro USB) and the most popular TV connection (HDMI). Other than the physical connectors, USB and HDMI technology are not being used. It is exclusively MHL signaling through the connectors and over the cable.
11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The Samsung Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II and Galaxy S4 use a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously. (Note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB On-The-Go port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III/ Note 2 can power the MHL-HDMI adapter (when used with a non-MHL-compatible-TV). Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
The Galaxy S III was the first MHL device to use a different connector - one that is not compatible with all other MHL devices and accessories.[9]
MHL cable [edit]
Passive cables are also available at retail that allows consumers to connect an MHL-enabled device directly to an MHL TV.
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From Wiki
If your 5 pin doesn't work then it will require any 11 pin version (I think)

Reliable HDMI CONNECTOR

I've tried a couple of devices that claim to connect V20 to tv by wired usb c to HDMI connector. They work for a while then the picture is lost or the phone itself freezes up. About the longest play I've gotten successfully is an hour but usually something goes wrong within 15 minutes.*
The phone has been out over 6 months now so I thought someone may have found a really dependable HDMI connector? I don't mind the lack of power in because I can always change batteries but phone should be able to play through HDMI long enough to watch one movie. That's all I really need hut I don't want to have to screw around with it 10 times to watch one movie.
Thanks so much for your help!
I've been wanting to make use of this feature, but haven't extensively yet. I have though gotten to make fair use of a micro-USB to HDMI adapter. A few trouble spots come to mind here.
Sounds like you're powering the adapter/phone from an external power source? How good is that power source? My micro-USB to HDMI was distinctly less reliable when plugged in since I was merely powering it from a normal USB port. Try running it entirely from the phone's battery. If this works better then it could be you really need a higher power source when using the adapter.
How good is your HDMI cable? Depending on how strongly the phone/adapter drives the HDMI signal, a lower quality cable could break the camel's back.
I've been running into a different bit of trouble with USB-C to HDMI adapters. I've found several of these, but whenever they've got a USB-C pass-through, the pass-through is strictly for power and does not carry the USB signals. The MyDP specification allows for USB3 to be passed through if 1 or 2 pairs are used for the HDMI signal, but allows for USB2 to be passed through no matter how many pairs are used for the HDMI signal. There are adapters which also include USB-A port(s), yet none which include an external USB-C with the USB signals. Grr!
I use C to HDMI not micro usb. V20 doesn't use micro usb. It uses slimport. I have one adapter which allows simultaneous charging and one strictly slimport C to HDMI. Both behave the same way. I have a high quality 2.5 foot HDMI wire.
Power source was Samsung tv usb powered output 1 amp. Point is I have the same issue with pure slimport and no charging.
The one that allows simultaneous charging does in fact charge and work but always craps out but so does the slimport C to HDMI.
Hmm, entertaining what you find when you do research. I suspect the V20 is using the "MyDP" specification, which is the official specification name behind "Slimport". Seems there are at least two other video out methods for USB-C.
I haven't done enough with the video-out feature of my V20 to have much experience yet. With a V10 whenever an adapter was plugged in without external power there were no problems, but when an adapter with external power was plugged in video wasn't reliable.
I'm interested in reading if you find out anything.
Slim Port USB-C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung I got this one from amazon it works will for screen sharing to the head unit in my SUV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
frome901 said:
Slim Port USB-C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung I got this one from amazon it works will for screen sharing to the head unit in my SUV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Can you watch an entire movie from Netflix without jamming or losing hdmi connection?
recDNA said:
Can you watch an entire movie from Netflix without jamming or losing hdmi connection?
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Sorry I haven't tried, but its seems to connect smoother the a wifi dongle.
does anyone know if there's a compatible dongle for the V20 with not only hdmi but also power input and usb host?
Happening to me too - Any suggestions
Your situation's description fits my problem exactly. I have a USB C to HDMI that was vouched as working by several V20 owners. I plug it into my Dell monitor to play games on a bigger screen. It works well for a while, then disconnects and popup on my screen says something like, "LG Bridge has stopped working do you want to exit?". Once this happens, it's almost impossible to get the V20 to share the screen again. It's not a hub, just a USB C (male) to HDMI (female).

slimport lg g6

I purchased a usb type c to hdmi adapter and when I plugged in it said g6 does not support slimport and to use miscast instead, but my question is IS slimport hardware or software based function, thank you.
I' really like to know this, the lg site says the phone supports MHL. How is a MHL cable different to a usb type c to hdmi?
MHL, Slimport, HDMI and Miracast are all different technologies.
You're honestly better off getting a Chromecast. If you absolutely need to mirror, then miracast.
The USB ports on devices these days are non standard, and there is a lot of confusion about what is supported and what isn't.
As a rule of thumb, mobile devices only support faster transfer and power delivery, but not the additional hardware for multi screen support or others
Well I bought a oculus rift a week ago and trying to use it as a fpv with my drone and the rift has hdmi input so is the reason I brought this cable but g6 does not support it and even my rift doesn't appear to power on unless connected to pc and oculus app running to provided video coded for it, but is slimport a hardware or software based function.

Does Dex work witha simple Type-C to HDMI cable?

Hey,
I am in the research of buying a cable to connect the phone to an external screen.
And of course, to use Dex.
My question is if Dex requires a special samsung cable, or if it can work with a simple Type-C to HDMI cable from ebay or similar.
Thanks
Yes any will work however just make sure the one you get supports 60hz that's the one Samsung offer but charge a little extra for
As long as dex has been used before
USB C to HDMI Cable([email protected]), uni USB Type-C to HDMI Cable [Thunderbolt 3 Compatible] for MacBook Pro 2018/2017, MacBook Air/iPad Pro 2018, Surface Book 2, Samsung S10, and More - Gray - 6ft/1.8m https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V5JK36/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_6TWpDbMZZ7P67
This will trigger dex to work with any cable.

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