Of guys you can call me a noob or whatever, but I have noticed finally Samsung has released 5.0.1 for the N910F (Snapdragon variant).
In Australia we only had the opportunity to purchase the N910G. From having looked around online I cannot seem to find any difference between these 2 models (N910F & N910G) except for the region that the handset was sold in.
So my question is, am I able to install the N910F firmware onto my N910G device and still have a working device afterwards?
I haven't experimented much with my N910G as it cost me so much when I purchased it.
I was able to install different region firmwares on my SM-T700 and my GT-i9505 however it seems that back then the devices didn't seem to have region specific model numbers.
Any advice would be most appreciated, thank you for reading.
No u can't install n910f software without having a kernel that's compatible with n910f and n910g like we did in kit kat with nadia or ael. Hopefully won't be long and we will be able too but not yet
from dans galaxy far far away
I downloaded the F firmware and tried to install it to my 910G, no dice. ODIN errors out.
Custom roms will be made that work with it very soon, so i guess we just have to wait for them.
About to get a phone on contract with a major telco in Australia...
In theory, it's fine* to flash to another country/regional ROM that isn't telco_branded, so long as it's an official Samsung ROM, right?
Hoping to flash to an official Sammy ROM for a country/region that usually gets major Android updates far quicker than Australia or Australian telcos.
Thank-you.
*by "fine", I mean it won't trip Knox
Anyone? TY.
jalyst said:
Anyone? TY.
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If you phone is not carrier branded(N910F or N910C) you are fine with flashing a ROM from Samsung...it won't trip KNOX.
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Ashatar said:
If you phone is not carrier branded(N910F or N910C) you are fine with flashing a ROM from Samsung...it won't trip KNOX.
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Wait, but mine will be telco_branded (buying on contract), are you claiming it's absolutely not possible then?
Even if I'm flashing from an official Sammy ROM to another official Sammy ROM, how so?
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Wait, but mine will be telco_branded (buying on contract), are you claiming it's absolutely not possible then?
Even if I'm flashing from an official Sammy ROM to another official Sammy ROM, how so?
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I was on Telstra 4.4.4 then flashed to the Australian 5.0 on Sammy and knox tripped. There isn't Telstra 5.0 yet so I used the Australian one. I'm on N915G but the phone is a company phone so I'm not overly stressed on tripping knox. I think flashing a Telstra 5.0 on Sammy when available or OTA update you might be OK. Anyway went back to 4.4.4 I was missing Xposed to much among other things. Xposed for lollipop didn't play nice for me.
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Damn it. Someone told me that; so long as you're flashing to an official Sammy ROM, it shouldn't trip.
What if I flashed to country/region other than Australia, & what if I went for a 4.x ROM instead of 5.x?
I don't care about root, xposed, & all that just yet, happy to be on a 4.x ROM...
Want to be on a stock one though not branded, & ideally one for a region/country that gets updates sooner & more regularly/reliably.
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Damn it. Someone told me that; so long as you're flashing to an official Sammy ROM, it shouldn't trip.
What if I flashed to country/region other than Australia, & what if I went for a 4.x ROM instead of 5.x?
I don't care about root, xposed, & all that just yet, happy to be on a 4.x ROM...
Want to be on a stock one though not branded, & ideally one for a region/country that gets updates sooner & more regularly/reliably.
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Can't speak to that can only speak to my experience sorry. But l suspect anything outside Telstra will trip knox. They have really locked these suckers down. I think some Devs have gotten around it but not for my devise N915G......yet.
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Can anyone else help/advise on this? Thank-you.
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Can anyone else help/advise on this? Thank-you.
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Not sure how the other poster had that happen (on their Note Edge I assume?) but anyway, you can't flash another region's Note 4 firmware like the good old days.
Samsung, for whatever reason, has made 20i-sh variants of the Note 4 and Australia has the N910G model. This G model is also used by India, Sri Lanka and Singapore (but Singapore has a different boot setup or kernel for some reason).
Your best bet is to flash XSA firmware which is Australian unbranded firmware, this will get updates quickest and it will remove any carrier bloat. Flashing this in Odin will not trip Knox, I've flashed it several times and even loaded the Indian firmware once and there were no issues but I've gone back o XSA. As soon as unbranded units start receiving the Lollipop OTA (reckon maybe another 6 monts? Sigh) you'll get it too instead of waiting for Telstra to delay it another 2-3 months.
Here's the link to it on Sammobile: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/39199/N910GDTU1ANK3_N910GXSA1ANK3_XSA/
Thanks mate,
So you reckon none of the countries in our pool*, will get it substantially -or even mildly- sooner than Oz?
If yes, what do you base that on?
Thanks again!
*You sure it's just India/SL/Sg?
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Thanks mate,
So you reckon none of the countries in our pool*, will get it substantially -or even mildly- sooner than Oz?
If yes, what do you base that on?
Thanks again!
*You sure it's just India/SL/Sg?
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Doubt it! There's only been one real update in nearly 6 months and that was just after release date...i think India got it slightly earlier? Can't really recall! If you check sammobile.com and look at firmware for N910G you can see that these are the only countries. Any updates after November 2014 are carrier specific ones, but nothing for the unbranded models so it's hard to work out a trend of which country gets the updates earliest.
Don't even bother with Singapore because of the difference in their hardware, it's either India or Australia you have to pick from. And if you flash the Indian firmware you'll get charged for a stupid international Sms message to India when you first boot that it doesn't warn you about.
I asked the same question over at Sammobile and indications are that it won't trip Knox by flashing the Indian variant on an Australian phone. I haven't tried it myself though. But quite close to taking the plunge
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Samsung, for whatever reason, has made 20i-sh variants of the Note 4 and Australia has the N910G model. This G model is also used by India, Sri Lanka and Singapore (but Singapore has a different boot setup or kernel for some reason). Your best bet is to flash XSA firmware which is Australian unbranded firmware, this will get updates quickest and it will remove any carrier bloat. Flashing this in Odin will not trip Knox, I've flashed it several times and even loaded the Indian firmware once and there were no issues but I've gone back o XSA. As soon as unbranded units start receiving the Lollipop OTA (reckon maybe another 6 monts? Sigh) you'll get it too instead of waiting for Telstra to delay it another 2-3 months.
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So it looks like the LP OTA came out much sooner that you were lamenting!?!
Just in time for me, as I only got my Note4 last Wednesday evening
Still debating though, whether or not to go for one of the other variants listed here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910G/
Love to know if any of them have a track-record of getting it several wks (or more) sooner than Oz.*
Finally....
What do I need to proceed, just Odin & then away we go? Is it available for OSX , or is it Windows only?
I have access to a Windows env, so no "biggy" either way...
*I don't care about a 1 off international SMS charge, I'll also steer clear of Singapore ofc
I've since determined that yes, Odin is all I need, I think, & it's def. Windows-only, I think.
Main thing holding me up now, is this...
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2382726&p=40#r786
Several more posts back n forth after that one.
After all that's done, I'll be good to go with installing Odin & Kies in my Win10 VM, & then proceeding with the flashing.
But only after I've decided that I def. want to go for the Aussie ROM, or one of the others (excluding Singapore).
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So it looks like the LP OTA came out much sooner that you were lamenting!?!
Just in time for me, as I only got my Note4 last Wednesday evening
Still debating though, whether or not to go for one of the other variants listed here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910G/
Love to know if any of them have a track-record of getting it several wks (or more) sooner than Oz.*
Finally....
What do I need to proceed, just Odin & then away we go? Is it available for OSX , or is it Windows only?
I have access to a Windows env, so no "biggy" either way...
*I don't care about a 1 off international SMS charge, I'll also steer clear of Singapore ofc
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It was still about a month earlier! But not as bad as I was predicting You'll need Windows, I've never had luck on my macbook using variants of Odin designed for Mac, it's just too much hassle IMO.
You don't have many variants to pick from, India got the only two main updates that have been released for the 910G model 2 out of 2 times quicker than AU or Singapore so if you want the quickest updates and also want your gallery pics to auto-rotate along with being able to share to an email client from an image in the gallery then you'll be happy with the Indian ROM.
Just need to download the firmware, run Odin, turn off phone then hold Vol Down + Power until it loads 'Download Mode'. Press Vol Up to continue, plug your phone into PC, Odin will detect the phone (which you can tell if you see a port number appear) then click on the 'AP' button and locate the unzipped firmware file and flash. Takes a few minutes.
What about Sri-lanka, or that "Unknown" variant?
Hmm that last paragraph, little too vague for my liking, you aware for any detailed step-by-step tutes?
Thank-you!
Other notes:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/whim/?action=read&m=4421880
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What about Sri-lanka, or that "Unknown" variant?
Hmm that last paragraph, little too vague for my liking, you aware for any detailed step-by-step tutes?
Thank-you!
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Wouldn't bother with them! Actually, the steps are better explained on Sammobile under the download link. So this would be your preferred firmware along with better instructions.
They're not really detailed because it's a lot easier than it sounds, but if you're worried might be better to watch a youtube video first to get a visual i.e, https://youtu.be/Ulz-1UYzHBA
That vid shows it being done for the S4 but Odin is for most samsung phones so the steps are the same.
Lol mate I live in australia and you can flash any rom from any country as long as its samsung offical. I have got samsungs from all carriers and I flash tje australian open to all carriers immediately. You will be fine as long as its OFFICAL SAMSUNG FIRMWARE
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shotgun1976 said:
Lol mate I live in australia and you can flash any rom from any country as long as its samsung offical. I have got samsungs from all carriers and I flash tje australian open to all carriers immediately. You will be fine as long as its OFFICAL SAMSUNG FIRMWARE
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I think tryfound has a pretty good idea of what he's talking about, no need to "LOL".
He's from Oz too, a regular at WP (Whirlpool) no less...
Read all the posts again. You've missed one of the main points being made;
Hint: it's nothing to do with not being able to flash some CV's that are official Samsung fw.
Hi everyone. I know that this question has probably been asked before and there are perhaps a few threads on the same topic so I apologize if this seems repetitive.
I have an unlocked Note 4 the 910C (Exynos 5 Octa) and I have been checking for the Lollipop update - but every time I do it says my software is up to date (KitKat 4.4.4). I am using the device in the United States on T-Mobile Network. This is my first unlocked device.
I know Lollipop has pushed out to 910C devices but I am confused as to which one I should download. There are updates from Poland, Asia and so on. I have tried Kies and through there it also says my device is up to date. With so many different variants it becomes confusing. So I don't know if it hasn't been pushed out yet or if I have to do it manually.
Any help is appreciated and once again thanks for your patience with a relatively newbie member such as myself.
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Hi everyone. I know that this question has probably been asked before and there are perhaps a few threads on the same topic so I apologize if this seems repetitive.
I have an unlocked Note 4 the 910C (Exynos 5 Octa) and I have been checking for the Lollipop update - but every time I do it says my software is up to date (KitKat 4.4.4). I am using the device in the United States on T-Mobile Network. This is my first unlocked device.
I know Lollipop has pushed out to 910C devices but I am confused as to which one I should download. There are updates from Poland, Asia and so on. I have tried Kies and through there it also says my device is up to date. With so many different variants it becomes confusing. So I don't know if it hasn't been pushed out yet or if I have to do it manually.
Any help is appreciated and once again thanks for your patience with a relatively newbie member such as myself.
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Install app samsung phone info from play store & check your csc, there is tool in this app for checking latest firmware for region of your phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
Thank you so much for this. I was able to determine my device is Malaysia SM-N910CZDEXME (Made in Vietnam) and I believe there is Lollipop in the Firmware tool. Much appreciated as I would have never figured this out!
G33KN3RDSTUFF said:
Thank you so much for this. I was able to determine my device is Malaysia SM-N910CZDEXME (Made in Vietnam) and I believe there is Lollipop in the Firmware tool. Much appreciated as I would have never figured this out!
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Glad to know u able to get info u needed bro...
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My n910c exynos 5 octa core is xme malaysian carrier and i still have not receive any sort of update. Just today my siblings using n910f got another update of 84mb after 5.1.1. It breaks my heart to write that samsung is really not treating their customers how they should. I do not want to take any chances to brick my phone using odin or other methods of rooting. But certainly ask for insights from the senior members what should i do now? And certainly i am not expecting marshmallow too. Since i doubt all the carriers will get it. Articles from the internet tells me samsung is already working for n910f marshmallow. What about the n910c exynos 5 octa core? Will we ever get any sort of advantage to boost our 64 bit cores to it's potential?
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My n910c exynos 5 octa core is xme malaysian carrier and i still have not receive any sort of update. Just today my siblings using n910f got another update of 84mb after 5.1.1. It breaks my heart to write that samsung is really not treating their customers how they should. I do not want to take any chances to brick my phone using odin or other methods of rooting. But certainly ask for insights from the senior members what should i do now? And certainly i am not expecting marshmallow too. Since i doubt all the carriers will get it. Articles from the internet tells me samsung is already working for n910f marshmallow. What about the n910c exynos 5 octa core? Will we ever get any sort of advantage to boost our 64 bit cores to it's potential?
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910C/
you phone should have at least android 5.0 by now
No still running stock 4.4.4 Kitkat ?
KitKat is better than Lollipop. Trust me.
Yeah but still you know when your siblings brag about their mighty snapdragon you want to show off too.. plus why won't exynos get it?
Hi all,
It's been a long, long while since I tinkered with roms, I think my last one was either a Samsung Galaxy Tab (the original one!) or an HTC Sensation.
So I've recently acquired a Note 4 n910F and can't stand all of the Samsung bloatware, and I'd like a newer version of android for compatibility with newer apps.
So remind me... What does 'stock' mean? Is this as Samsung intended, or as android intended? I'd just like a vanilla as possible android experience that works well.
Help please!
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Hi all,
It's been a long, long while since I tinkered with roms, I think my last one was either a Samsung Galaxy Tab (the original one!) or an HTC Sensation.
So I've recently acquired a Note 4 n910F and can't stand all of the Samsung bloatware, and I'd like a newer version of android for compatibility with newer apps.
So remind me... What does 'stock' mean? Is this as Samsung intended, or as android intended? I'd just like a vanilla as possible android experience that works well.
Help please!
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Hey! I don't know if you've already found your answers but I thought I would respond in case you haven't.
In almost every reference you see in this section of xda "stock" is referring to the TouchWiz OS that Samsung phones are shipped with.
True android stock is referred to as "vanilla" like you said.
I use a different model Note 4 than you have but from what I've read it's fairly easy to flash TWRP (custom recovery) on the F model via Odin and from there you can pick from whichever rom suits you. Just be sure you're in the Snapdragon section. There are many different models of the Note 4 and some of them have a different processor called Exynos. The roms are processor specific and you can only use the ones built for your type which is the Snapdragon processor.
One other thing I wound suggest, because of the different variants of the F model, is to take notice of your CSC code. Once you start flashing other roms it may be hard to track down the original code. Use this app to see what it is and that way you can flash the appropriate modem file (or if you need to reflash your stock firmware) instead of just using whichever modem file is provided in the OP of the rom you're flashing. There are many different variants of the F model with many different country codes, just remember that just because the firmware has a newer release date doesn't mean it's the correct version.
TWRP- Found here
Samsung USB drivers for Windows. Needed to connect your phone to your PC- Found here
Odin download- Found here
Development section for Snapdragon- Found here
Fantastic response, thank you. I think I'd like to do without TouchWiz... Pretty much all of my previous phones have been HTC, which either had the HTC skin over it, which was fairly unobtrusive, or barely anything at all. The current version of android and TW on the note 4 is messy.
I am new to rooting phones and I have a couple of questions first can I use the s pen after rooting second what is the easiest way to root the phone and third what to I get for rooting the phone apart for newer software.
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I am new to rooting phones and I have a couple of questions first can I use the s pen after rooting second what is the easiest way to root the phone and third what to I get for rooting the phone apart for newer software.
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Hola! Welcome to XDA.
First of all I would just like to give a friendly reminder to include your model number in your post. For instance, my Note 4 model variant is the SM-N910V. From what I've read the 910V is the trickiest to root other than the SM-N910A which never had a method of rooting as far as I know. So if you're using an AT&T phone aka SM-N910A then you're unfortunately out of luck. I think most other variants are relatively easy to root depending on your experience level.
Spen functionality depends on the kind of rom you're wanting to use. I mostly just use a modified 6.0.1 TouchWiz rom and the spen works as good as if I didn't have root. In case you're wondering, the note 4 officially received 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) and TouchWiz is what Samsung branded their software (until recently anyway). If you want to run anything newer than 6.0.1 your chances of a working spen decreases, but that also depends on your particular model. The note 4's with the exynos chip has a Nougat port that I believe has a working spen.
The last question, what can you do with a rooted device, all depends on what you use your phone for. It really would take a long time to list the possibilities. If you have something specific in mind I could try to point you in the right direction though.
My model is sm n910f (I think it is the international version but I am not sure) abd I mostly want newer software that supports the s pen
Edit: it is the unlocked European version
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Hola! Welcome to XDA.
First of all I would just like to give a friendly reminder to include your model number in your post. For instance, my Note 4 model variant is the SM-N910V. From what I've read the 910V is the trickiest to root other than the SM-N910A which never had a method of rooting as far as I know. So if you're using an AT&T phone aka SM-N910A then you're unfortunately out of luck. I think most other variants are relatively easy to root depending on your experience level.
Spen functionality depends on the kind of rom you're wanting to use. I mostly just use a modified 6.0.1 TouchWiz rom and the spen works as good as if I didn't have root. In case you're wondering, the note 4 officially received 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) and TouchWiz is what Samsung branded their software (until recently anyway). If you want to run anything newer than 6.0.1 your chances of a working spen decreases, but that also depends on your particular model. The note 4's with the exynos chip has a Nougat port that I believe has a working spen.
The last question, what can you do with a rooted device, all depends on what you use your phone for. It really would take a long time to list the possibilities. If you have something specific in mind I could try to point you in the right direction though.
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My model is sm n910f (I think it is the international version but I am not sure) abd I mostly want newer software that supports the s pen
Edit: it is the unlocked European version
kevintm78 said:
Hola! Welcome to XDA.
First of all I would just like to give a friendly reminder to include your model number in your post. For instance, my Note 4 model variant is the SM-N910V. From what I've read the 910V is the trickiest to root other than the SM-N910A which never had a method of rooting as far as I know. So if you're using an AT&T phone aka SM-N910A then you're unfortunately out of luck. I think most other variants are relatively easy to root depending on your experience level.
Spen functionality depends on the kind of rom you're wanting to use. I mostly just use a modified 6.0.1 TouchWiz rom and the spen works as good as if I didn't have root. In case you're wondering, the note 4 officially received 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) and TouchWiz is what Samsung branded their software (until recently anyway). If you want to run anything newer than 6.0.1 your chances of a working spen decreases, but that also depends on your particular model. The note 4's with the exynos chip has a Nougat port that I believe has a working spen.
The last question, what can you do with a rooted device, all depends on what you use your phone for. It really would take a long time to list the possibilities. If you have something specific in mind I could try to point you in the right direction though.
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Pizzaking587 said:
My model is sm n910f (I think it is the international version but I am not sure) abd I mostly want newer software that supports the s pen
Edit: it is the unlocked European version
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The international version is the SM-N910C
But regardless, the 910F has a huge amount of rom development, i would say you just need to dive into the note 4 snapdragon rom thread and get used to flashing your phone in odin, all the resources you need are right here!
Good luck and enjoy