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Bway 9" Android 6 Radio with questions

Hi,
I have this unit installed , i bought it because in my car there a not many options with a bigger 9" screen. all the other options will give that 7 inch layout and buttons.
I got steering wheel buttons, so dont need any on the display
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bwa...007-2008-android-6-0-car-dvd/32832502259.html
Bway 9 Inch Headunit
Model Name: BW-90910
OS Android 6.0.1
CPU:Intel ATOM X86 Quad-core 1.2 GHZ Sofia 3GR
RAM 1GB DDR3
?ROM 16 GB
Resolution 1024*600.Capacitive Touch Screen
Built in Sygic map
Solution Sofia
Sound processor TDA7388
Build Number : Sofia3gr_car_64-userdebug 6.0.1 MMB29M Eng_build_20170815_121351 release keys
car : Ford s-max 2008
I have 3 issues with it
1 : The audio randomly mutes while driving, sometimes it doenst happen at all. sometimes 3 times a hour.
The sound goes into mute mode, you see the sound icon crossed out. Then i press + on my steering wheel and it goes back to the previous audio level.
2. Its kind of laggy when i use TomTom Go and Spotify, can i upgrade the memory? Gba soldering solutions is doable by me, just need to know if its still worth doing.
3. Audio quality is poor. i am missing the rich volume. i read about the amp replacement. but that will not work for me, i have a amp build in the car.
4. cant connect any other bluetooth devices
i replaced the stock speakers from the car already with new ones. but it barely became better.
Questions :
1. can i upgrade the memory?
2. There are no updates from Bway, Can i flash android 7 and remove all the crap from this build, and get better equalise support and bluetooth? and maybe fix the muting issue.
3. i am also looking into this newly listed model
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32853040455.html
This has 32gb and 2GB and a octacore and higher clock.
would i benefit from this model?
thanks!

Buying a Chinese Android head unit

Hello guys!
So, I have a 2005 Audi A4 B7 and I'm thinking about buying an android head unit for my car. So far I have found 2 head units that look somewhat like the factory one, or that I like. They both have Android 8.0 / 8.1, Quad-Core with 2GB of RAM. Now, are these chinese head units generally worth it? I'm really concerned about sound quality (I have an aftermarket amplifier and subwoofer installed). Now I have a Kenwood head unit and the sound output is decent, can't really complain (better than factory radio).
And I have a few questions.
One of the units is made by Mekede (the factory look-alike) and the other one is made by Wondefoo. Has anyone had any previous experience with these 2 makers?
Also, I do not see an AUX IN on these chinese head units. Do the have one? Is it possible to have one? I'd much rather play music over BT, but is generally the connection stable?
Seeing as they are Android, am I able to install 3rd party apps, such as Vanced YouTube ? Or Waze (or any other app that does not come preinstalled) ?
Generally speaking, how is the boot up time on these units?
They both cost around $210. Are they too cheap? Should I try and save up more? Look for other makers? Most of the times I'm going to be listening to music (either via USB, BT - or any way it can be connected to my phone; or YT) while, sometimes, using Google Maps / Waze. Are these cheap android head units generally laggy when multi-tasking? Does it really matter which one I buy, as they're all "cheap chinese products"?
Here are the links to the units:
1. Mekede
2.Wondefoo
Or if you guys could recommend me another one which really is worth the money, it'd be appreciated. I'd like it to have volume knobs, and the factory look-alike is a plus.
I am sorry if these questios have been asked before!
Thank you!

One thing to keep in mind - RAM amount. 1GB of RAM is not enough for these units. I'd recommend 4GB of RAM, but make sure you get at least 2GB of RAM for sure (and even that may not be enough).
Try to find a unit with PX5 (octa-core) or PX6 processor and 4GB of RAM, if possible. Android 8.0 or 8.1.
In terms of sound quality, I too was concerned. I ended up rooting and installing Viper4Android and the sound quality is great. I'm using an extenral amp, but the internal amp sounded good with V4A as well. Viper4Android gives you a LOT of flexibility in customizing the sound to your liking.

jtrosky said:
One thing to keep in mind - RAM amount. 1GB of RAM is not enough for these units. I'd recommend 4GB of RAM, but make sure you get at least 2GB of RAM for sure (and even that may not be enough).
Try to find a unit with PX5 (octa-core) or PX6 processor and 4GB of RAM, if possible. Android 8.0 or 8.1.
In terms of sound quality, I too was concerned. I ended up rooting and installing Viper4Android and the sound quality is great. I'm using an extenral amp, but the internal amp sounded good with V4A as well. Viper4Android gives you a LOT of flexibility in customizing the sound to your liking.
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Must be a PX5 or PX6 ? Most of the sellers don't list their processor model, just listing it as "octa-core". I'm aware that V4A can give you a lot of flexibility in sound customization (I've used it on my phone for a while)
Do these head units integrate well with the CAN ?

Here are the more technical names (may help identify them):
PX3: Cortex A9 (Quad-core) - 32-bit ARMv7 architecture.
PX5: Cortex A53*(Octacore) - 64-bit*ARMv8 architecture.
PX6: Cortex A72 (I'm not sure of the details - brand new platform)
From what I've seen, most Android 8.0 units are PX5 and most Android 8.1 units are PX6 (brand new). Units with older versions of Android are probably PX3, I'm assuming. Most of these units do not get "official" major Android version updates - the manufactureres just release new models instead of upgrading existing models (but some can be upgraded via custom ROM's).
Personally, I would probably look for a PX5 MTCE octa-core unit with 4GB of RAM. I wouldn't consider anything older than a PX5/Android 8.0 unit - and like I said, I'd recommend 4GB of RAM if you can find it. The PX6 units are brand new - there are no custom ROM's or anything for them yet or anything. They also seem to come with less RAM and storage from what I've seen?!?!
Only way to be 100% sure what you are getting is to ask the seller - they should be able to tell you the processor type and "MCU" type (MTCE-XXX),where XXX is the MCU type. The MCU is like the "go between" between the Andorid OS and the radio hardware (MCU type can be seen under the Android settings menu) - you may even ask them to send a screenshot of the hardware info from the Android settings to confirm what it actually is.
Just a "general" overview of some of the basics - I hope that helps.
Oh - and if you have a CANBUS car, you need a CANBUS adapter. If the seller is selling a unit specifically for your car, they usually include the CANBUS adapter. That will allow your steering wheel controls to keep working and other items.

Yes. That actually helped. These with 4 GB RAM and at least a PX5 cost more, about $350 so I'm going to wait, save up a bit more, because I also need to convert my car from 1 DIN to 2DIN and that will cost me at least an extra $70.
I also want one that looks like the factory equipped one, so, yeah, I'll just wait another month or so.
Thank you for your answers, guys!
Sent from my SM-G935FD using Tapatalk

I have a mekede unit supposed to be android 8.1..... It's not it's actually 6.0
This was from mekede official store on aliexpress
They are now not answering my messages and unfortunately I didn't figure this out until after the buyer protection time limit had ended.

Just to post an update to my original post... At first, I thought that the sound quality was great. But the more and more I used the head-unit, I found that sound quality was NOT up to par with my previous WinCE head-units. And I also ran into noise-related issues. I did everything in my power to try and resolve these issues (including using external amps for better sound quality), but in the end, I gave up and re-installed my WinCE head-unit.
Unfortunately, from my experience, these Android head-units just aren't up to par in terms of sound-quality and noise-rejection. I had noise-related issues from the LED backlighting, USB devices, wifi and bluetooth wasn't very good either. Hopefully, they continue to improve upon these units, because having the head-unit run a full version of Android is great - but sound quality is also important - and even more important to some (like me). Would be great if the big audio companies starting building full Android head-units (Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, JVC, etc).
Since my WinCE unit supports Easy Connect, I can still get the advantages of Andoid for certain things while also having fantastic sound-quality and no noise issues. Best of both worlds. Granted, the WinCE unit is significantly more expensive ($699 vs $350), but just like anything else - in most cases, "you get what you pay for". The WinCE unit that I'm talking about specifically is the Dynavin N7 - and they use high-qaulity sound components. But I also had Rosen WinCE head-units and they sounded great as well (but again, significantly more expensive).
All depends on what is most important to you - software flexibility or sound quality.

My new 2021 PX6 from Phoenix Automotive Vertical Fast Boot OEM fiber option. Had this for about 2 months. I use it with an external OEM AMP. Used in a Lexus.
AMP is not fiber. The unit is a PX6 MCU RL78c (2014 Chip-set) NCHHWY V332-0 , Framework px6-userdebug 9 PQ2A 190305.002. OS 9.
Audio is very good! I love the sound. Speakers: OEM Mark Levnson in the front, 6.5inch JBL GX600C + Sound Ordnance M2-10DVC 10inch in the back.
Tested only with stock HU.
What works on the stock PX6:
(With correct wiring harness)
1. Fast-Boot. After first 2 setup boot-ups, on is instant for 24 hours of nonusage.
2. AC controls work (Cooling).
3. Searing Wheel controls work out of the box on Lexus w/canbus included.
4. Audio player works but not a good GUI.
5. Phone works with Bluetooth.
6. Android Auto is installed and works.
7. DSP Sound works with an EQ and many settings, GUI is good.
8. Most User Settings seem to work. Wheel mapping may stop after Fast-Boot for 5 minutes (bug).
9. Navigation (Google Maps) works, GPS works.
9.5. Maps works Off-Line in Google Maps.
10. Radio with about 16 memory storage.
What is not working in a Lexus / Toyota :
1. Factory Settings. All-access is denied. Locked out! Big Issue for me.
2. GAS monitor/usage. This should work out of the box. Phoenix says it is not working and is disabled in Lexus. BUT is advertised to work on the Phoenix site.
3. Sound MAX loud setting will NOT save after reboots. After boot, the sound is all the way up, loud. After talking with Phoenix tech, no fix. However, if FastBoot is on, the audio may save to a lower setting for about 24hours. If you don't use HU for 24 hours settings are lost again..
4. Screen will reflect windshield in GS Gen3 Lexus. May be an issue in sunlight.
5. If you wear Sunglasses or have glasses that do auto shade to dark, you may not like the screen because it can be hard to see.
6. Radio- Local / Distance not working. Can't find a fix. However Local radio is working fine. I get most local stations clear.
7. Temp display worked for 2 days now showing -40 at all times. (No fix).
8. Fast-Boot image changing. The stock app that changes the BOOT-Image will not work. It is out of date and will not work with Android 9+. It needs an update from Manufacture. A Phoenix Auto add-on app (download), also will not work, out of date. App complains of an Error with the Android version.
Add-On that work:
1. Musicolet from Play Store. The Stock Audio player sucks big time.
2. Bluedriver OBD2 reader.
3. Torque Lite or Pro OBD2 reader.
4. Function Generator, from Play Store.
That's about it.
Roger Out

What's the best Chinese Android head unit now within frame of 120$ +-?

Hi,
What's the best Chinese Android head unit now within frame of 120$ +-?
I think 2GB ram is must.
My criteria:
- no hissing noise
- Nice sound for A "basic" listener
- 2 GB of memory
- Updated Android version (9 ver?)
- good gps
- good FM/AM reception.
I own Suzuki Splash (although these systems usually for any car with ISO cable)
>>> Only from Chinese sites (Banggood, Aliexpress, Greabest etc....) <<<
Thank you very much!

Need help choosing a Android Nav Head Unit

Hello all, I'm new here. I am located in Switzerland, and have access to a German shipping address to buy a head unit in Germany, or directly thru AliExpress overseas.
I have a few questions choosing the right unit (maximum 9 inch), and I hope you can help me answer a bunch of questions. Maybe you can quote whatever question you may answer. Thank you very much.
1. What is the difference in PX numbers, like PX30, PX5, PX6, and is PX6 the best option?
2. Are there radios with DAB+ integrated, or do I always need a USB Stick?
3. Also, can I use TPEG (Digitally transmitted traffic information thru DAB network) when using a Navigation software?
4. Are there head units that already have Bluetooth 5.0 integrated?
5. What 1280 * 720 9-inch units are there?
6. Which version of Android do you recommend for a head unit; Android 8, Android 9 or Android 10?
6. What do you people think I should look out for when buying a future-proof head unit for my resto-mod car?
I would like it to have:
Capacitive screen 9-inch maximum (due to size restriction in center console)
Sufficient RAM, future proof (maybe 4GB if you recommend)
32 GB on board memory or more (I only use the Radio for Music database and On-Board Maps of Europe, no Videos)
Reversing Camera Input and DVR (but afaik, an external recorder is necessary?)
Bluetooth 5.0 is highly preferred
Digital Sound Processor DSP is highly preferred
DAB+ TPEG for Navigation Traffic Information is highly preferred if compatible
Thank you for your help, further questions are asked later, since I am researching Touchscreen Auto Radios for 10+ years, and now since they got so affordable in the last few years, I would like to buy one for my project car – But since my budget is limited, I would like to research well and only buy once; I hope you understand.
Thank you all.
Dominik

DJHcom said:
Hello all, I'm new here. I am located in Switzerland, and have access to a German shipping address to buy a head unit in Germany, or directly thru AliExpress overseas.
I have a few questions choosing the right unit (maximum 9 inch), and I hope you can help me answer a bunch of questions. Maybe you can quote whatever question you may answer. Thank you very much.
1. What is the difference in PX numbers, like PX30, PX5, PX6, and is PX6 the best option?
2. Are there radios with DAB+ integrated, or do I always need a USB Stick?
3. Also, can I use TPEG (Digitally transmitted traffic information thru DAB network) when using a Navigation software?
4. Are there head units that already have Bluetooth 5.0 integrated?
5. What 1280 * 720 9-inch units are there?
6. Which version of Android do you recommend for a head unit; Android 8, Android 9 or Android 10?
6. What do you people think I should look out for when buying a future-proof head unit for my resto-mod car?
I would like it to have:
Capacitive screen 9-inch maximum (due to size restriction in center console)
Sufficient RAM, future proof (maybe 4GB if you recommend)
32 GB on board memory or more (I only use the Radio for Music database and On-Board Maps of Europe, no Videos)
Reversing Camera Input and DVR (but afaik, an external recorder is necessary?)
Bluetooth 5.0 is highly preferred
Digital Sound Processor DSP is highly preferred
DAB+ TPEG for Navigation Traffic Information is highly preferred if compatible
Thank you for your help, further questions are asked later, since I am researching Touchscreen Auto Radios for 10+ years, and now since they got so affordable in the last few years, I would like to buy one for my project car – But since my budget is limited, I would like to research well and only buy once; I hope you understand.
Thank you all.
Dominik
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As far as I know all the Chinese android headunits have severely crippled bluetooth, that ONLY work with phones (BT headset mode) and clones of elm27 obd readers.
So BT 4 or 5 doesn't really matter.

DJHcom said:
Hello all, I'm new here. I am located in Switzerland, and have access to a German shipping address to buy a head unit in Germany, or directly thru AliExpress overseas.
I have a few questions choosing the right unit (maximum 9 inch), and I hope you can help me answer a bunch of questions. Maybe you can quote whatever question you may answer. Thank you very much.
1. What is the difference in PX numbers, like PX30, PX5, PX6, and is PX6 the best option?
2. Are there radios with DAB+ integrated, or do I always need a USB Stick?
3. Also, can I use TPEG (Digitally transmitted traffic information thru DAB network) when using a Navigation software?
4. Are there head units that already have Bluetooth 5.0 integrated?
5. What 1280 * 720 9-inch units are there?
6. Which version of Android do you recommend for a head unit; Android 8, Android 9 or Android 10?
6. What do you people think I should look out for when buying a future-proof head unit for my resto-mod car?
I would like it to have:
Capacitive screen 9-inch maximum (due to size restriction in center console)
Sufficient RAM, future proof (maybe 4GB if you recommend)
32 GB on board memory or more (I only use the Radio for Music database and On-Board Maps of Europe, no Videos)
Reversing Camera Input and DVR (but afaik, an external recorder is necessary?)
Bluetooth 5.0 is highly preferred
Digital Sound Processor DSP is highly preferred
DAB+ TPEG for Navigation Traffic Information is highly preferred if compatible
Thank you for your help, further questions are asked later, since I am researching Touchscreen Auto Radios for 10+ years, and now since they got so affordable in the last few years, I would like to buy one for my project car – But since my budget is limited, I would like to research well and only buy once; I hope you understand.
Thank you all.
Dominik
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1-) Px it's the processor, today the top is PX6 from Rokchip or you can choose other family, Airmont which produce the SC9853i . The "war" between Android 8.1 or 9.0 or 10.0 it's a non sense; the real problem it's the firmware support which for 90% of chinese producer it's 0.
Only a few producer (Ownice, Joying , Daisata, Isudar) offer updates after you buyed.
About RAM, 4gb or more, space for ROM it's enough 32 gb.
So, the rule number 1, don't buy cheap h.u. (under 250€), rule n.2 and first to see the link for future firmware updates, rule n.3 pay only with Paypal, if you have problems with HU, and the seller don't answer, Paypal block him untill resolve your problem (Aliexpress rules are tricks)

Thank you both, so,
• Bluetooth 4 or 5 doesn't really matter, both are bad,
• PX6 is the newest processor,
• Android Version is not very important, receiving updates after purchase is more important than Android version,
• RAM should be 4 GB or more, 32 GB ROM is enough,
• Pay with PayPal (or credit card, because good credit card companies protect you, too), AliExpress buyer protection is bad (unless you buy a lot like me in the past, then they protect you better thru "VIP" protection rules)
But what about IPS screens, are they better?
And what about Digital Sound Processors, is this better?

Looking for an alternative to the CSM5 unit...one with MTC* :-)

Hello together
my girlfriend has bought a new Erisin radio ES8715V, directly from the manufacturer, I know Erisin is not the manufacturer ;-) it is four weeks old and has the following MCU:
CSM5_D_R7708_07122021_113053
ERISIN ES8715V:
(PX5 - 8-CoreCortex A53 - Android 10 - 1280x720 Screen)
She/we have now learned that it is better to have a unit with MCU MTC* to install alternative software ;-)
Which Android radio, with almost the same design, has a MTC* MCU? For her is important the button for the volume, she wants to regulate the volume with a button...PX5 or PX6 does not matter, but should have 4GB memory and preferably 64GB hard drive DSP and Android Car ist also important and a price less than 300,-€
It is for a VW Golf 6 from 2010...
Which unit can we buy???
Big thanks in advance for your help