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hi, have just got the oppo find 7a in hands & went for a shootout today!! Seems each phones has their Pros & Cons..
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The Z2 shots seem to have better dynamic range, a tad sharper, and a wider FOV than the Oppo. HDR is more exaggerated on the Oppo, which, I think the Sony could do better at. Z2 camera package is clearly better IMO.
yeap.. i find out that the Z2 is easier to handle in the night where as the oppo in the day (Due to the super fast AF). Oppo is a disaster without activating the slowshutter mode during the night, turns out blur without any support or tripod, pretty usless i think then..
BUT,
Oppo - $599SGD
Xperia Z2 - $988SGD
finoqq84 said:
yeap.. i find out that the Z2 is easier to handle in the night where as the oppo in the day (Due to the super fast AF). Oppo is a disaster without activating the slowshutter mode during the night, turns out blur without any support or tripod, pretty usless i think then..
BUT,
Oppo - $599SGD
Xperia Z2 - $988SGD
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Any other observations on the Oppo besides cam? I think it's great that we have all of the choices for different devices!
se1000 said:
Any other observations on the Oppo besides cam? I think it's great that we have all of the choices for different devices!
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Oppo feels better & slimmer on the hand, Z2 weighs more and feel more solid
Camera Auto Focus on the Oppo is Super fast, even faster than S5. But tends to blur sometimes due the capturing straight after tapping the screen, LED flash is super bright.
The Oppo's front 5mp snapper is the best i have ever seen, Low noise, & support SCNES MODE!! (So you can take a selfie even if ur back is a sunset) Better then the S5. Z2's front snapper is...... LOL.... don't mention..
Oppo Screen is larger, sharper & very WHITE.. Z2 has a warm display, but has more dynamic range colors then the Oppo. The Z2 display just looks more appealing!
The Oppo Home & UI is NOT appealing to me, despite TONS of themes. I still prefer the Z2 Home & UI (The best i have ever seen so far).
Gestures on the Oppo is a PLUS point and the double tap wake function is very good, 98% success. The Z2 is...LOL.. been tapping the screen to wake the Japan giant up... Sleeping ...60% Success only..
The Opp sounds fuller to me but the Z2 has the stereo speakers
The Fast Charge is True, battery went from 12% to 75% in just 25mins . But only with its HUGE BLOCK charger.
The oppo does not support 5Ghz wireless signals from my router, the Z2 does.
The Oppo stock Chinese keyboard only support traditional Chinese input
So my conclusion is...
Wow great balanced assessment! Good luck on your choice!
finoqq84 said:
Oppo feels better & slimmer on the hand, Z2 weighs more and feel more solid
Camera Auto Focus on the Oppo is Super fast, even faster than S5. But tends to blur sometimes due the capturing straight after tapping the screen, LED flash is super bright.
The Oppo's front 5mp snapper is the best i have ever seen, Low noise, & support SCNES MODE!! (So you can take a selfie even if ur back is a sunset) Better then the S5. Z2's front snapper is...... LOL.... don't mention..
Oppo Screen is larger, sharper & very WHITE.. Z2 has a warm display, but has more dynamic range colors then the Oppo. The Z2 display just looks more appealing!
The Oppo Home & UI is NOT appealing to me, despite TONS of themes. I still prefer the Z2 Home & UI (The best i have ever seen so far).
Gestures on the Oppo is a PLUS point and the double tap wake function is very good, 98% success. The Z2 is...LOL.. been tapping the screen to wake the Japan giant up... Sleeping ...60% Success only..
The Opp sounds fuller to me but the Z2 has the stereo speakers
The Fast Charge is True, battery went from 12% to 75% in just 25mins . But only with its HUGE BLOCK charger.
The oppo does not support 5Ghz wireless signals from my router, the Z2 does.
The Oppo stock Chinese keyboard only support traditional Chinese input
So my conclusion is...
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Warmer whites are more accurate The Oppo is most likely cool and blueish which is what we usually think is white but isn't what is actually accurate
not i am biased.. I still prefer my Z2.....LOL..:laugh:
Is it true that the oppo loses ~13% battery overnight?
Sent from my Xperia Z1
Jiyeon90 said:
Is it true that the oppo loses ~13% battery overnight?
Sent from my Xperia Z1
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nope, in fact it only loses 3% the max overnight. About the same as Z2 in stamina Mode. But oppo drains faster then the Z2 during heavy usage. In terms of battery life, Z2 still better then the oppo
7a's pics look blurry, I like it's camera a lot more anyways, z2's pictures look washed out, just not as good.
The picture of the Ship is clearly in Oppo's favor, Its a much better picture. A very good picture. All of the others i would give to sony.
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The picture of the Ship is clearly in Oppo's favor, Its a much better picture. A very good picture. All of the others i would give to sony.
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Yep, oppo's HDR mode is very good..
And for oppo's price tag, I feel more worth it then the Z2... The Z2's camera could be better, I heard its because of the separation department of the hardware & software, they did not work together
Quick question about the Oppo. Do you happen to know if it supports MHL or Slimport? I sent Oppo and email, and they never got back to me.
OPPO 7a standby time is a better now after their latest update, but still needs a lot of work. Also losts of complaints of yellow tint across bottom of screen. Two reasons I returned the phone.
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alyunes said:
OPPO 7a standby time is a better now after their latest update, but still needs a lot of work. Also losts of complaints of yellow tint across bottom of screen. Two reasons I returned the phone.
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The Z2 is still the winner in standby time, even without switching on stamina mode
Huawei is chinese brand well known for almost anyone thanks to network components like routers, modems, switches...presents in our homes since the ADSL started to be something common.
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However, in the last years they have go into newer markets to avoid stay behind their competitors, and that’s how they went into the mobile market with some smartphones and tablets... Although not attracting too much attention.
In order to change that trend, they have introduced a new business line under the commercial name “Honor” which flagship is the new Honor 6. It has been presented as an independent brand from Huawei, but with the backup of having such a big brand behind, something like what we can see with Toyota and Lexus on the cars world.
The most peculiar of this new brand is that they promise high specifications but at a quite reduced prices, basing their strategy on online sales. Same technique used by low cost Asiatic manufacturers or, even first brands like Google with their Nexus.
Specifications
These are the characteristics showed on their web...
*the internal storage and memory card capacity have been improved in this new version.
There are no doubts we are facing a very powerful terminal, last generation and equipped with octa-core processor and 3GB of RAM!… Now let’s see how it performs
We see each time more and more devices with amazing HW on the paper BUT, with always or almost always the same weak points on the real using experience: screen quality and low camera definition on low light situations, even having a lot of megapixels. So go on with the review step by step.
Design
Frontal and rear part come with the 3rd generation of Gorilla Glass , connected by a plastic surface on the sides... Willing to look like metal (but not giving high quality feeling). Clean and round lines not highlighting for anything in special... Unless we mention the unavoidable similarity with the iPhone 5: same round edges, power adaptor situation or the frontal speaker.
I must say here that the finish is so smooth that I found the same issue the Nokia C7 had... It slides from the hands almost automatically.
On the front, first thing we see is that amazing 5.0” IPS (with 441ppp) with the forementioned speaker on the top together with the 5Mpx secondary camera. The tactile controls are located just below the screen. With this distribution, they have reached a quite impressive 76% ratio of screen within the total surface.
Once turned back, the 13Mpx main camera (with a Sony IMX214 sensor, 1/3.06”, f/2.0, 28mm including Total Focus and software stabilizer, HDR) and dual LED flash. Looking down, only the hands free speaker is visible. Near the center of the cover only the Honor logo to get more value.
Regarding this part of the design, I must pull the engineer’s ears for putting that rear speaker compeltely flat, in a way that when we recline the device, the sound is completely absorbed...losing quality and volume.
Interior
A Kirin 920 octa-core processor with four Cortex A15 cores running at 1,7Ghz and other four cores Cortex A7 at 1,3Ghz is beating inside this Honor 6, accompanied by a Mali T628 MP4 GPU (at 600Mhz) and as mentioned above, 3GB of RAM!
The internal memory brings us the very decent amount of 32GB, and again with the option to expand them with a microSD card, up to 64GB. Bravo for Huawei/Honor guys being able to answer a bigger storage demand.
Running, performance and autonomy
This Honor 6 presents us Android 4.4 Kitkat, customized with Emui 2.3. Sincerely it’s not enough to take advantage of the great hardware on this device, however it is already possible to update to the version 3.0 of Emui bringing interesting things to users, and specially using better the phone capabilities.
We have already seen the Sony IMX214 sensor of the main camera in many different high-end smartphones like OnePlus One, Nexus 6 or Xiaomi Mi4. Nevertheless, using the same components doesn’t mean achieving the same results...
A little subsection here to talk about the number of megapisels and the quality of the pictures taken. We all know that the iPhones (even the latest ones) still mount an 8Mpx camera, while their direct competitors have already jumped to the13Mpx or even 20Mpx. This could be translated into worse pictures or customers complaining, however the company from Cupertino has shown to followers and retractors that the software behind the camera is almost as important as the sensor used, receiving in addition a lot of praises for the quality of night pictures and the incredibly speed they are taken.
That said, it’s obvious I have found some faults to Honor 6’s camera. In the same way other (most of) low-cost smartphones in the market, we can take outstanding pictures in very good light conditions but, when the light is poor (or in the night) and we must use the flash, we find a lot of nois in the pictures due to the increase on the ISO sensibility.
Recording 1080p video at 30fps shows a good quality, and the optic stabilizer helps a lot for that purpose, in exchange to limit the camera capabilities, since we know this sensor is capable of recording at [email protected] Summarizing, the video recording is very good, although we have the impression we have been cut on the hardware benefits :-/
The stock application for the camera offer basic controls, sincerely more than enough for most of users and, if someone needs more control voer some elements...there are lots of third-party applications on Google Play.
It is not a secret that the recent selfie fever makes the secondary camera become a main character. About this one, I can only say that having 5Mps work in a similar way than the rear camera, so great results with good light, and noisy ones with low-light. Remark the included “beauty effect” filter will be quite useful when taking those selfies.
When talking about the performance on this Honor 6, the only I can say is fluid and fast on every task we charge him with: browsing (wifi, 3G or 4G), productivity (email, WPS Office,...), multimedia (HD movies without lags) or games (once more Asphalt 8 comes included and runs perfectly).
About the battery, brings 3100 mAh, more than enough for standing more than one full day with standard/intensive use.
It includes also an energy saving tool, proven quite useful with a lot of tweaks available.
And again I must give a shout to the engineers, premium range and not including the fast charge system? Please! It would be great to charge 90% of this battery in 15 minutes.
I am not following the trend of pasting screen-shots of amazing benchmarks results, like AnTuTu and others, since every smartphone today will bring very high scores and this not always mean a great user experience.
Conclusions
A very balanced terminal on every field, some initial complaints that are solved with Emui update, and surely with Lollipop.
The price of this smartphone with the new configuration (32GB ROM and up to 64GB by adding a microSD) is not even 330€, in online shops like Etotalk, including the VIP shipping via DHL (door to door). What makes of it a very interesting option
First of all i would like to give a big thank you to OPPO and the OPPO Product Ambassador Team (Eleanor) for giving me a spot among the first 20 selected global OPPO Product Ambassodor Team. Im currently still waiting for my OPPO Find X5 Pro and hoping that DHL don't delay it more.
In general i'm really excited to be part of that experience and can't wait to lay my hands on the new OPPO Find X5 Pro. For myself i have always been using android devices which currently im using a Samsung s22 Ultra and this would be my first time trying the OPPO flagship which i heard some good reviews already on it and being the one of the best smartphones at present.
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Photography and Video Comparisons
So im a photographer based in London and keen to be testing out the cameras with Oppo's first custom imagining chip which are color calibrated with the tech collaboration Hasselblad on the OPPO Find X5 Pro. As a photographer i know Hasselbrad colors are one of the best which i'll be showcasing photos taken during daylight, night and my daily routines. Having the s22 ultra as well i will do a comparison between both phone's cameras and seeing who does better. Also i'll be testing the raw capabilities of the images in post-editing with comparison with the s22 Ultra. For my normal routines as posting stories on social i'll be testing out the quality of video which can be taken.
Tech Side
In terms of tech with the new snapdragon 8 Gen1 which can be found on the latest flagship phones, in which i'll do a benchmark of the performance in my general daily usage and during heavy usage like taking photos/videos or even playing games. I'll be having a comparison of performance with the new s22 Ultra which i don't know if is possible anymore to do benchmark with the recent controversy. Also Oppo includes a charger in their box (Some brands which are selling it seperately now) with the new fast-charging 80W which i can't wait to see in action with 12mins only to be fully charged! Their new 120hz AMOLED screen which i can't wait to see as it is dynamic in terms of hz which is good for battery life.
Software
For software the OPPO Find X5 Pro is using the ColorOS 12 in which i heard it was greatly improved now and would do comparisons with Samsung One UI. But in general i heard it was smooth and well optimized so can't wait to test that out.
Support
As a OPPO Product Ambassador i'll now be looking forward to push the OPPO Find X5 Pro to the global market which i know is not well known at the moment specially in the UK. In the UK market where Apple/Samsung is dominating, i would say OPPO is a underdog which a very good contender to be one of the best. So can't wait to show you guys the results of the comparisions and the review.
Any questions or any queries regarding the OPPO Find x5 Pro, please do ask in the comments or even message me. I'll try my best to complete those demands.
Social Media
My other social media where i'll be sharing like photos or video reviews of the OPPO Find x5 Pro.
Twitter
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Thank you!
Shane Chung [Photographer]
Really looking forward to your comparison, especially as you own the Samsung s22 ultra and you are a photographer so your feedback will be appreciated.
BTW you mentioned it take 12min to fully charge the oppo which is incorrect, I believe it takes around the same time as my oppo find x2 pro of around 38min but the new oppo has larger capacity battery and new battery health management which should allow 1600 cycles (over 4 year of charging everyday) life.
The dispaly is an LPTO2 AMOLED screen hence why it can do dynamic 1hz and all the way up to 120hz save more battery etc.
The display also uses pixelworks memc chipset for the sdr to hdr scaling and picture processing features.
More info here.
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It will be good to see if there is banding issue when the brightness is cranked up both phones, past experience will I found the Samsung suffers from banding issues on videos with brightness cranked up and my oppo find x2 pro no issues what so ever. This is also the case with the new samsung tab s8 ultra which I own.
Anyway looking forward to your feedback.
a5ian300zx said:
Really looking forward to your comparison, especially as you own the Samsung s22 ultra and you are a photographer so your feedback will be appreciated.
BTW you mentioned it take 12min to fully charge the oppo which is incorrect, I believe it takes around the same time as my oppo find x2 pro of around 38min but the new oppo has larger capacity battery and new battery health management which should allow 1600 cycles (over 4 year of charging everyday) life.
The dispaly is an LPTO2 AMOLED screen hence why it can do dynamic 1hz and all the way up to 120hz save more battery etc.
The display also uses pixelworks memc chipset for the sdr to hdr scaling and picture processing features.
More info here.
Products
Pixelworks X7 Processor Smart Game Accelerator ►
www.pixelworks.com
It will be good to see if there is banding issue when the brightness is cranked up both phones, past experience will I found the Samsung suffers from banding issues on videos with brightness cranked up and my oppo find x2 pro no issues what so ever. This is also the case with the new samsung tab s8 ultra which I own.
Anyway looking forward to your feedback.
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Thanks a lot for the information on the specs.
I have not yet received the phone but yea i'll put the battery in real life test to see.
As you mentioned the display screen has that new dynamic 1hz-120hz which i'll test to see if it actually saves more battery.
For banding issue on the new ultra s22 i don't think its an issue anymore but i'll sure put the OPPO find x5 pro to the test together with the s22 Ultra.
Thanks. I have the oppo find x5 pro and will be getting the Samsung s22 ultra as I have few issues with find x5 pro (notifications) and not a major upgrade over my oppo find x2 pro bar the camera.
Hmmm....there seem to be a million Oppo ambassadors around the world, it's becoming like The Stepford Wives. Personally, I avoid reviews from "ambassadors" as there is absolutely no way on earth they are going to be even remotely neutral.
I've got an Oppo X5 Pro myself and it's a very good phone, but it should be at the price.
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Hmmm....there seem to be a million Oppo ambassadors around the world, it's becoming like The Stepford Wives. Personally, I avoid reviews from "ambassadors" as there is absolutely no way on earth they are going to be even remotely neutral.
I've got an Oppo X5 Pro myself and it's a very good phone, but it should be at the price.
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I would try my best to be neutral as i said i'll do comparisons between my own phone S22 Ultra and see which ones come back better. With the price i do agree like the S22 ultra offers way more cameras and better quality for the price but also in terms of performance both of them are at the same level and battery life S22 ultra could be better than the Oppo pro find x5. Plus with the release of S22 Ultra with the exynos chip, it had so many issues with the phone bugging out on lockscreen and randomly have to shut it down due to it being frozen in apps. But the Oppo hasn't experience something like this yet but also they using the snapdragon chip.
OPPO FIND X5 REVIEW: A silky phone experience with few issues CHAPTER 2After a month from the unboxing of my Oppo Find X5 as an OPPO brand ambassador I'm ready to share my full review. It will be mainly a user experience focused analysis.
Oppo Find X5 is an affordable flagship phone compared to the premium-flagship OPPO Find X5 Pro. The main differences are:
- Oppo Find X5: v6,5" LPTS FullHD+ AMOLED Display with Adaptive refresh rate (60, 90, 120Hz) and a maximum brightness of 1000 nits vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: 6,7" LPTO 2.0 QHD+ AMOLED Display with Adaptive refresh rate (1-120Hz) and a maximum brightness of 1300 nits
- Oppo Find X5: SOC Snapdragon 888 (2021) and 8 GB of RAM vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: SOC Snapdragon 8 Gen. 1 (2022) and 12GB of RAM
- Oppo Find X5: 4800mAh battery vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: 5000mAh Battery
- Oppo Find X5: 2 axis OIS on main camera and standard lenses vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: 5 axis OIS with glass lenses
- Oppo Find X5: Charging with SuperVOOC 80W and AirVOOC 30W vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: Charging with SuperVOOC 80W and AirVOOC 50W
Since Oppo Find X5 costs 999€ and X5 Pro costs 1299€, the question is: Do you think is necessary to pay 300€ more to go Pro?
REVIEW TOPICS AND LINKS (mandatory since XDA doesn't support more then 40 images per post)
CHAPTER 1 - Build Quality, Display, Haptics & Audio, Performance and Gaming
CHAPTER 2 - Battery and Charging, Color OS Features and Camera
PART 5 - Battery and S7uperVOOC 80W
With 4800mAh Battery and the SuperVOOC 80W charger OPPO Find X5 is a solid performer. As soon as the software learns your habits in few days, the battery life is absolutely satisfactory.
I've always used the smartphone at 120Hz with 2 Email accounts, 2 Telegram accounts, Whatsapp, Bluetooth, GPS and NFC always active and mixed 4G - Wifi connectivity.
On standard usage days I have always reached 3 hours of active display with about 40% remaining battery which led me to charge in the afternoon of the next day.
With a more intense use you could arrive at night with a 10/15% remaining.
But if one charge is not enough, the SuperVOOC 80W charger will come to your rescue, allowing you to have an additional 25% in only 8 minutes of charging and to complete the charge from 0 to 100 in about 40 minutes. A feature that could really change the relationship between users and battery anxiety.
There is also 30W wireless charging (with the appropriate AirVOOC charger, otherwise 15W) and the possibility of reverse wireless charging.
Color OS energy consumption management favors battery life over multitasking and punctuality of notifications.
To receive notifications on time and not to allow apps to close in the background, you need to disable energy savings, enable automatic start for apps and in some cases even block apps in the multitasking menu.
I didn't particularly like the limit of 7 apps max to be locked in memory and 20 apps max to start automatically.
Using dozens of home automation and home security apps and many messaging apps, I've soon reached those limits and had to give up some apps.
I would have liked to have been able to configure more apps or have a toggle to disable these limitations at the cost of a shorter battery life (also thanks to the presence of the SuperVOOC charger).
PART 6 - Software and Color OS 12.1 At the time of this review I'm using OPPO Find X5 with Color OS 12.1 (based on Android 12) build number CPH2307_11_A_13 and February 2022 Security patch.
During this month I've not yet been received any updates and surely the release speed of the security patches is not on par with Google or Samsung (both on my Pixel 6 Pro and on the Galaxy S22 Ultra I already received the April security patches).
Although, I can say that the Color OS is a really good UI: fast, stable, complete, with many exclusive features and some minor bugs related to Dark Mode (some apps are not perfectly adapted to show text and elements with Black Backgrounds) and some glitches with the notification menu (appearing on top of other apps also with shelf closed).
In addition to the features already mentioned to facilitate one-handed use, it is important to mention:
Smart Sidebar: a compact control panel in which you can add your favorite apps or access to quick features and let you open mini floating apps.
Flexible Windows: my favorite one! It allows you to open any app in a floating window to optimize multitasking. Apps can be hidden on either side, resized and used in the window. Really useful!
Color OS also shines with the graphic customization of the UI.
In the Personalizations settings you can customize almost everything: Wallpaper, Always on Display design and widgets, icons shape, display and fonts size, fingerprint animations but my favourites customization features are Wallpaper Color Picker and Edge Lighting.
Wallpaper Color Picker allows you to replicate something like the new Material You arrived on Pixel Phones with android 12.
It allows you to manually select the colors with which you want to customize UI elements but you can't theme the icons or dynamically change the color of the widget based on the portion of the wallpaper where it is located.
Edge Lighting feature is simply amazing. I don't use the always on display on any of my smartphones and I really miss the good old LED notification light. Edge Lighting can replicate this feature illuminating the edges of the screen with the color chosen in the settings as soon as you'll receive a notification.
Another cool feature of Color OS is Multi-Screen Connect, it uses the USB Type C 3.1 with video output to mirror your phone on your PC and letting use it with your mouse and keyboard.
To start using it you'll need to download PC Connect client on your PC and then activate it from the Multi-screen connect toggle from quick setting. It can be useful to send message or check your favourites apps directly from PC. It can also sync notifications and clipboards across devices.
Multi-Screen Connect is not as advanced as Samsung DeX or Motorola Ready For, but I'm glad to see the development of features that allow a convergence between smartphone and PC.
PART 7- Camera And last but not the least... let's talk about camera performance.
As I stated in my unboxing, OPPO Find X5 shares almost all the features with the Pro model except for 5-axis OIS (Find X5 got a 2-axis OIS) and a slight less lighter lense on main sensor (f/1.8 vs f/1.7).
The sensors are: 32MP selfie camera with Sony IMX615 sensor, 50MP Main and Ultrawide/Macro camera with Sony IMX766 Sensor, 13MP Telephoto camera with Isocell S5K3M5 Sensor
The main innovations of the Find X5 series are two:
the first is undoubtedly the new MariSilicon X NPU (Neural Processing Unit) used instead of Qualcomm ISP which promises important improvements especially in night photos and videos through a 20-bit ultra-high dynamic range, real-time RAW processing and RGBW Pro Advanced Mode.
the second is the beginning of the collaboration with Hasselblad, the well-known professional brand which has worked on the color calibration optimization, a dedicated Pro mode and has brought some goodies such as the Xpan mode that reproduces the famous Hasselblad 65mm shots.
Camera app is super complete with any kind of feature you can imagine: Portrait mode, Night mode, Pano, Xpan, Pro Mode, Text scanner, Time Laps, Stickers, Many effects, Dual View Video, Time lapse and Slow-Mo.
Also you can activate IA mode for scene recognition and HDR settings. Regarding HDR I have to report some artifacts and halos in photos with moving subjects. I am sure it will be fixed shortly with a software update.
Marisilicon X NPU has also brought the possibility to take 10-bit color shots, but not all the gallery apps on Windows or Mac can read this format.
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Main camera offers daily natural looking shots with good dynamic range e good details. It is not on pair with the similar priced Pixel 6 Pro, especially for exposure management on darker spots, but the photos are really really good and natural. Sometimes colours are a little bit flat but shots are very natural and this is not necessarily a bad thing. You can also shot at 50MP but I prefer binned photo for better dynamic range and HDR management.
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Photos are full of details also in night mode: MariSilicon X shines here and the main difference with Pixel 6 pro is the shutter speed of the photo. The Pixel 6 pro takes 3/4 seconds while OPPO Find X5 takes about a second and this involves a smaller amount of light captured which is reflected in a less artificial, more stabilized and more natural result.
Ultra wide camera is simply the best one I personally tested since I've been using smartphone. It shares the same sensor with the main camera so you can expect the same level of details and color profile. It blows away Pixel 6 pro and Galaxy S22 Ultra Ultra wide camera in both day and night photos, with almost no distortion, superior quality details, great dynamic range. The shots are 110 degrees wide, not as wide as other competitors but the results are absolutely great. The only downside is a little bit of lens flare effect.
Ultra wide sensor also doubles as an amazing Macro camera, ways better than 2MP dedicated sensors we can see elsewhere.
Telephoto camera is a nice addition but it lacks behind the competition that in the same price range offers a higher zoom level (such as Pixel 6 Pro with a 4X optical zoom).
The shots are good in daylight even if the color balance is slightly different from the other two cameras. The dynamic range is also less wide.
In the night shot the telephoto camera will be used only in the presence of good ambient light otherwise the 2X photos will simply be a crop of the main sensor (99% times).
Portrait mode works fine but sometimes it tends to soften the details of faces and using telephoto lenses the results are less good and in this scenario subject separation is good but not perfect.
X-Pan mode is a nice addition but often the results lacks of fine details
Video - Oppo Find X5 can shoot videos up to 4K 60fps resolution but switching sensors during recording is possible only up to 4k 30fps resolution.
The recorded audio quality is good and there is a smart feature to focus the recorded audio based on the zoom level of the cam or the subject being shot.
At night, with very low light the video quality is sufficient with some artifacts and perhaps the absence of the 5-axis stabilization present on the Oppo Find X5 Pro is more noticeable.
DAYLIGHT SAMPLE
NIGHT SAMPLE
SLOW MO
PART 8 - CONCLUSIONS It was fun to use the Oppo Find X5 this month and I must say that it has proved to be a truly reliable and performing flagship phone in all respects.
There are some aspects to improve but maybe its biggest problem is a launch price that places it in competition with 2022 smartphones with a more recent SOC or LPTO Display and with 2021 flagships that in the meantime have dropped in price (such as Oppo Find X3 Pro) .
I am sure that with the natural price drop in the coming months. Oppo Find X5 will certainly become a winning choice for anyone who wants an elegant, complete camera-phone with well-developed software features.
Pro Cons
Incredibile build quality and design
You find everything you need in the box
Amazing Ultrawide camera
SuperVOOC 80W is the cure for battery anxiety
Smooth and complete software experience
Nice UX for One Handled mode
Background apps and multitasking limitations
Late security patches updates
LTPS Display instead of LPTO
Price
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New update landed on Oppo Find X5: March Security patch, improvments for camera, brightness, memory management and battery.
Let's see!
Hello Everyone,
The last part with my final thoughts.
The first one is here.
The second here
The third one is this thread.
Camera
For the camera review. First, 2 weeks of snow, rain, wind, cold weather. Not the best for going outside, taking pictures without gloves, or having incredible scenery to shoot.
So, I will go further later.
But so far, I am still trying to understand why the primary camera is only 6P when the UW is 7P. And why only 110° for UW. And why only 5P for Telephoto. And why no x4 optical zoom. And why only 2 axis stabilization? And where is the microscope lens from the X3.
And why an additional imaging NPU when nobody uses all the functionalities of the triple Snapdragon ISP?
Okay, it's a lot of why? But if you come from the X3 series, you will definitely ask yourself these questions and see if the X5 is worth the update.
Spoiler alert: I won't be able to answer that.
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First, the MariSilicon AKA Imaging NPU:
4K Ultra (AI) Night Video
Ultra HDR
Hasselblad science
18 TOPS for AI Computing (11.6Tops/W)
20Bits Dynamic Range
Realtime RAW
The MariSilicon is made of a NPU, an ISP and a Memory Subsystem (8.5GB/S DDR).
It should be 20x faster than the ISP From the X3 Pro (meaning the ISP from SD 888). But Denoise (Noise Reduction Algorithm). They compare the 20Bits vs the 18Bits from SD888 bringing more contrast and brightness + a RGBW Pro Mode.
Okay, SD888 has three 18Bits ISP, got a Scalar, Tensor, and Vector Units, can process 0.1 lux video, capture 4K HDR videos, got AI-Based AF and Auto Exposure, got 26 TOPS of power processing.
So, on the paper, I'm pretty confuse. Okay, it's the trend, Google with its Tensor, Xiaomi with its C1 and soon C2, OPPO with MariSilicon, and VIVO with its V1…
Okay, it might help OEMs dev bring the same libraries and computational algorithms to whatever the SOC you use from Qualcomm to Unisoc via Mediatek and don't care about their ISP capacity, from mid-range to premium flagship.
But you need to feed them, with data, scenarios, and for now, it's only on the X5 and X5 Pro under Qualcomm and even the Mediatek variant doesn't have it.
So, so far, is MariSilicon working at 100% of its efficiency?
I don't know the same, but I don't think so. New technology always needs at least half a year in the wild to be better. It should be interesting to redo all the tests in September or before the end of the year with all the updates done in between.
Concerning the app, you will find the usual modes like Night, Video, Pro, Photo (AI, HDR, and 50Mp), Portrait, and the extra ones like Pano, Movie, Slo-Mo, Time Lapse, Long Exposure, Dual Video, Sticker (kill me), Text Scanner and the Hasselblad XPAN Mode.
For the XPAN mode, you have a color or black and white option, even if you don't have any B&W dedicated sensor. So, you will only have the 42/45mm mode and not the 30mm (for now, who knows).
For the color's restitution, we are close to the one in the OP9 Pro under Oxygen OS 11, meaning good even perfect for many users of this device. However, as usual, different lens construction, different aperture… meaning different color restitution between UW, Wide, and Tele…
And guess what, because the UW got a better construction lens, the photos taken with it are better than many flagships. And that's something that drives me crazy. If the UW would have a f/1.8 7P and the primary camera also the same thing (or even better a f/1.7), the Sony IMX 766 potential might have been exploited. But let's remember, we just received one and only update so far. And usually, there is always a gap, for the best or the worst, after a few OTAs.
Now, if I had to compare… Xiaomi is offering way more options, including for Vloggers and Bloggers, different long exposure modes or even videos modes (movies effects such as magic zoom, time freeze, // worlds, etc.), 8K, and Google a better computational AI and tech for skin restitution, portrait, night shots (plus an x4 optical zoom).
If OPPO can include functionalities from them or compete with them, Bingo.
Here are some pictures taken below. No fancy photography, no artistic one, at first, I try the phone as 90% of us, you take out of your pocket, you point and shoot, that's it, ready to go in your IG, WhatsApp group, or to your mom.
The folder with untouched pictures (and more shots) is here.
And don't get me wrong, I am one of those who think before having a cutting edge DLSR or Camera, know first how to shoot, compose your scene, and have a vision. It's not because you have a fancy camera you will take fantastic shots.
So far, excluding what the NPU is marketed for (Ultra Night Video, Photos, and so on, I will continue to shoot at night when the weather and the conditions are available), it's a good camera… for early 2021. So far, I will say my OP9 Pro or P6 Pro or Mi 10 Pro or Smartphone for Snapdragon Insiders are doing the job precisely the same or even better.
So, what are the plans here?
Take pictures at night, people, colors, landscape, city
Use the Movie Mode and do the same also at night
Having a clear sky at night to see the moon and shoot it.
Post some samples.
Play with long exposure for light painting or even taillights.
Battery
I talked earlier about the battery life or the super power saving mode and not having an issue for the day for it.
If I have to go further in this part, the X5 comes with the SUPERVOOC DVT 80W, it is compatible with 80W/65W, etc fast charging, 30W AIRVOOC, and 10W Reverse Wireless Charging. Too.
So you will have from 0 to 50% under 15mn.
It means it's fast for charging and has no heat issue as the 80W is 40Wx2 at peak times. You only have a 2/3mn difference between 80W or 65W fast charging anyway.
Wireless charging is compatible with current norms, and I am flawlessly using my 55W wireless charger. You can even choose what kind of charging you want, like slow/optimized for bedtime, the same for wireless.
There are 2 Cells 2340/2400 mAh.
No heat issue while charging; as I said, it's 2x40W, and it's now a while OEMs developed fast charging. 100W on one cell is reachable, so less than the half in 2022… easy peasy.
As usual, you can choose between different profiles to save more power in case of or depending on your usage. Why run full powerhouse if you're just watching videos on a social network.
My thoughts
So, at the end of the day, I need to dig up more ColorOS, and dig more for the photography part, especially at night.
So far, I see the OPPO Find X5 as a 2021 flagship under Android 12 with an NPU I am still trying to figure out the utility. No offense here; it's just how I use the smartphone for the past 2 weeks, I didn't have the opportunity to shoot vibrant HDR at night videos. I got rain, snow, cold, no parties or trips to the city past two weeks. It is on the checklist. But I'm thinking, in that case, I am using the smartphone as everyone else here, depending on the occasion and the opportunity.
For the rest, it's a nice rounded, balanced device. ColorOS is a surprise, mixed with nice and why questions, but as I said, hard to jump into a new customized OS you never used before (even on OP, as I stayed under O2OS 11).
However, despite the OPPO/OP framework on top of the Android One, the addition of many OPPO Apps (that need to be separate from the OS and moved on the Play Store BTW and allowed to uninstall), the system is responsive, have a great battery life, some nice customizations and still looks like, sometimes, as a clean OS (looks like, not is). There are still some glitches here and there and some UX details that I'm not used to (and don't know if it is intended this way or bugs).
For the camera part, UW is good, Main can be better, and Tele is under competition. I need more options in the camera and gallery app. It's a solid day-to-day photography phone, but there are better 2021 devices in front of it for now. That's why I'm curious about the following updates for the firmware and the NPU.
The build quality is present. The X5 is too light for me. I feel back I was sent a few years ago. It's a 6.55", meaning it's not tiny, but I can feel and see the difference with the 6.7/6.78" inches smartphones I've been using for the past year. However, it is pleasant to get this size, as it is well balanced, under 200g (7.41oz). Flat-screen, thinner would have perfect for me.
Okay, people will say no SD Card, No Jack port… Well, I don't care personally. Yeah, I prefer a 512GB variant, but I can deal with 256GB, and I am using Snapdragon Sound for wireless Audio.
For the price, in Europe, the product is around 999€ VAT included (meaning $999 taxes excluded in the US if we should imagine a retail price). For this price, 12GB instead of 8GB, a better construction lens for the primary camera with better stabilization. The same for the Tele camera, better camera and construction lens, and add a B&W sensor for the XPAN Mode. And maybe I will consider buying it.
So far, as a European living in the US, I see the X5 as an OP9 refresh, a little brother of the OP9 Pro. In Europe, the prices are between 619 and 919€ currently, with the addition of the 80W, the MariSilicon and switching one IMX 689 to IMX766, 749 or 799€/$ seems more the sweet spot for this model.
So, keep it posted; fav the threads; I don't know yet if I will update this one or go for another thread with the new information about this OPPO Find X5.
And here we are, at the end of this review. Again, thank you OPPO and @OPPO Ambassador Team for this opportunity.