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i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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krelvinaz said:
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.
I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.
I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.
thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad
it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.
I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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Spotify is working, but does require a air mouse or keyboard for now.
Sideload, sideload, sideload.
Apks install as easy as pie "adb install xxxxx.apk"
Actually, any app you have on a rooted phone, you can send yourself the apk and sideload to the Fire TV (I use Root Explorer). As to whether they work or not...it is a try and see thing.
I'm really loving this device as well! I will say that it is really catered to those who have bought into the Amazon ecosystem (like me, who has prime and purchases all of my music from Amazon mp3 store... plus I have a slew of apps I've purchased from the Amazon app store over time). I have two of them now and was able to successfully sideload and run Amazon MP3 on one. I'm looking forward to future updates and expansions of the app store.
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I'm really loving this device as well! I will say that it is really catered to those who have bought into the Amazon ecosystem (like me, who has prime and purchases all of my music from Amazon mp3 store... plus I have a slew of apps I've purchased from the Amazon app store over time). I have two of them now and was able to successfully sideload and run Amazon MP3 on one. I'm looking forward to future updates and expansions of the app store.
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Exactly this. The Fire TV is fantastic for people like myself that are invested in the, as you called it, Amazon ecosystem. I'm looking forward to watching "The Sopranos" again once the old HBO content comes to Prime.
As for app selection, you can sideload most anything you'd like. There are orientation issues with some apps that are easily fixable.
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I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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Thats great to hear. I just bought a 2014 year Samsung 4K Smart TV. I have a Roku 3 and a Apple TV as we well. Neither has StarZ or MaxGO. I have Dish Network. Will Max GO and StarZ Play work on Fire TV? i.e. Is Dish listed as one of the options to log in? If yes, where do I get the apps for sideloading? Thanks for doing all this research.
I also have Dish. I get HBO Go but can not login to any of the others with my Dish account.
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Dish from what I can see only has login to HBO GO? I tried others but Dish is not listed?
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Are these questions or statements?
wastate2014 said:
I also have Dish. I get HBO Go but can not login to any of the others with my Dish account.
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I had trouble getting logged into HBO GO through my Comcast login too, but I eventually got it working. I think there are issues between the app and the various provider login systems.
fredphoesh said:
Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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I was a bout to say whaaat we got all of it then I realized this post is from May lol.
I think we had towelroot in May? or it was later anyway so much changed since may
Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
fBx said:
Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
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Most of the times as you can clearly see here on xda it takes a while or maybe even a long time, for the amazon tablets to be root able. I would buy a 6th gen right now, when your not connecting it to the internet it should be possible for you to root it right now (if it has the right software version installed).
If you want to buy a 7th gen then there is the problem that you can't connect it to the internet, because it will automatically upgrade you will have to wait until there is a method to root it before you can normally use your tablet....:crying:
Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
Okay, I cross-referenced 2016 and 2017 and it's basically the same specs. Not sure it would be that much of an upgrade. I'll check what a 2016 HD 8 goes for at ebay.
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Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
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Is it expected that loading Google Play on the 7th gen will work the same way as it did for the 6th? I don't need root or a custom ROM, but I don't want to be limited to the Amazon app store.
I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
psychoxman said:
so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
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I took my HD 8 (7th Gen) straight out of it's box and followed the instructions. Now someone reported in the other thread their Fire 7 (7th Gen) had issues with the versions linked in the thread. Mine was sitting at Amazon OS 5.3.3.0 out of the box and I didn't update that first. The guy with the Fire 7 stated he was at 5.4.0. One other person with the Fire 7 ran into a similar issue, but used newer versions of the Play Store and Play Services to get it working.
I just checked on my tablet and the Play Store and Play Services on the HD 8 just updated in the last 5 minutes, they are within the same build cycles as the one guy listed as working on his Fire 7.
Google play works
I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
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Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
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Yes, Gmail from Google Play work correctly in my HD 8 2017.
so ive just found this site, only a couple days too late by the looks of it. i read (not very carefully) that it would be easy to root a kindle fire hd 8, so i just got one in the mail today (7th generation). i havent connected it to the internet, its got 5.3.3.0 on it, and my goal was to replace the stock OS with regular android. is this not currently an option?
(if not, any suggestions on what i should do/not do with it in the meantime? will connecting it to the internet begin an automatic software update that will render the device even more useless? i thought i read someone post something about that)
Fire HD 8 (2017) here on 8.4.0.0. Google apps sideload just fine. Removed lockscreen ads permanently just by submitting a help ticket.
It's a fabulous tablet for the price. I'm using mine primarily as a retro emulator although I can't find any good compact tablet gamepads (hoping to find a joycon-ish clone).
Fire HD 7thG- Screen cracked... What to do????
my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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As far as I know, the difference between the 6th generation and 7th, is pretty much the programming and a few internal tweaks. I am about 90% sure there is nothing different about the physical hardware of the devices. So if you can find an HD 8 that's 6th generation, for real cheap, you can probably swap out the screen. There are several tutorials online if you do Google search, on how to do that. It sounds harder than it actually is. With that said, i am still looking for a cheap HD 7 so I can replace the screen in the one I have tucked away in a drawer.
Hi,
Any ways I can install a 3rd party fresh ROM on my Kindle Fire HD 8 2017 edition? I am sorry for any confusion but did not find anything myself here.
I would like to know this as well as I just purchased one and while I like Amazon FreeTime for my kids, the lack of a REAL YouTube app makes the tab useless IMO as I'm a YouTube Red account holder and need to be able to save video offline for my son to watch while on the road. Standard Android parental controls are the best as I get to pick and choose what apps a child can use.
enjoycool said:
Hi,
Any ways I can install a 3rd party fresh ROM on my Kindle Fire HD 8 2017 edition? I am sorry for any confusion but did not find anything myself here.
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(V)eGa said:
I would like to know this as well as I just purchased one and while I like Amazon FreeTime for my kids, the lack of a REAL YouTube app makes the tab useless IMO as I'm a YouTube Red account holder and need to be able to save video offline for my son to watch while on the road. Standard Android parental controls are the best as I get to pick and choose what apps a child can use.
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Currently there is no root for FireOS 5.3.2.1 or above. Without root, you can't install a custom ROM. When, or if root is found, it will be some time thereafter before a custom ROM might be available.
(V)eGa said:
I would like to know this as well as I just purchased one and while I like Amazon FreeTime for my kids, the lack of a REAL YouTube app makes the tab useless IMO as I'm a YouTube Red account holder and need to be able to save video offline for my son to watch while on the road. Standard Android parental controls are the best as I get to pick and choose what apps a child can use.
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If YouTube is your only intention, then follow this thread. This will let you install All Google things without any problem.
If you understand things properly, you can also install newer version of those from the sources. Working fine for me. My intention is not to register my tab with Amazon but to lock apps so that my kids to not go anywhere wrong.
I just brought my Fire HD 10 2017 (12/15/17). I have it looking/ running almost like stock android. I have the play store, a few Google apps, an app draw & no adds on my lock screen. All without root. Iam still, however, fighting with getting live wallpaper to work & the lock screen wall paper changed.
Ahhhhh man I got so excited when I saw this thread then what a major let down. Any progress on root for the 7th gen. HD 8? I know you guys figured it out for the 10", but I 'm stuck with an 8" I got for Christmas so I went out and bought a SM-T580 10.1" Samsung Galaxy Tab A so I can have fun with root, custom ROMs, etc etc. I hope somebody can tell me some good news on the progress of rooting the 2017 7th gen. Kindle Fire HD 8. What about TWRP for it? No chance bc no root access I'd assume but I'm a noob, lolol. Cheers
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Ahhhhh man I got so excited when I saw this thread then what a major let down. Any progress on root for the 7th gen. HD 8? I know you guys figured it out for the 10", but I 'm stuck with an 8" I got for Christmas so I went out and bought a SM-T580 10.1" Samsung Galaxy Tab A so I can have fun with root, custom ROMs, etc etc. I hope somebody can tell me some good news on the progress of rooting the 2017 7th gen. Kindle Fire HD 8. What about TWRP for it? No chance bc no root access I'd assume but I'm a noob, lolol. Cheers
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Hi, this is currently the major thread looking for root. And, I'm really sad to say this, but the odds are very very high that there will not be TWRP available to this device, ever. Not because it's very hard to compile TWRP for MediaTek, but Amazon keeps their bootloaders locked down, forever. It will be impossible to install TWRP until we crack the bootloader, which is one of the hardest things in Android Exploiiting.
I am thinking about replacing an old tablet with an Amazon Fire HD 10, but I am a little confused about the Fire OS, and the tablet not having Google Play. How does Fire OS relate to the family of Android OS's? Does the Fire OS update as often or keep pace with the Android OS's?
I use Google Play for all my apps, how would I get Google Play and the other Google apps on an Amazon Fire HD 10? Does the Amazon Fire HD 10 need to be rooted to get the Google apps on the tablet? Do Google apps run well on an Amazon Fire 10?
Thanks for any insight on the Amazon Fire HD 10.
migoblu said:
I am thinking about replacing an old tablet with an Amazon Fire HD 10, but I am a little confused about the Fire OS, and the tablet not having Google Play. How does Fire OS relate to the family of Android OS's? Does the Fire OS update as often or keep pace with the Android OS's?
I use Google Play for all my apps, how would I get Google Play and the other Google apps on an Amazon Fire HD 10? Does the Amazon Fire HD 10 need to be rooted to get the Google apps on the tablet? Do Google apps run well on an Amazon Fire 10?
Thanks for any insight on the Amazon Fire HD 10.
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Nope, all Google apps run well without root. But, obviously to get it like normal Android, you would need root. Also, the Fire OS does NOT keep pace at all. It is 5.1.1, and still hadn't got 2018 security patches. Got to go now, will explain more later.
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Nope, all Google apps run well without root. But, obviously to get it like normal Android, you would need root. Also, the Fire OS does NOT keep pace at all. It is 5.1.1, and still hadn't got 2018 security patches. Got to go now, will explain more later.
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Thanks for that info. It really helps.
migoblu said:
I am thinking about replacing an old tablet with an Amazon Fire HD 10, but I am a little confused about the Fire OS, and the tablet not having Google Play. How does Fire OS relate to the family of Android OS's? Does the Fire OS update as often or keep pace with the Android OS's?
I use Google Play for all my apps, how would I get Google Play and the other Google apps on an Amazon Fire HD 10? Does the Amazon Fire HD 10 need to be rooted to get the Google apps on the tablet? Do Google apps run well on an Amazon Fire 10?
Thanks for any insight on the Amazon Fire HD 10.
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I would suggest it 100%. Unless you are in a rush to replace your older tablet, though, I'd just keep my eyes peeled for a sale since they have come down to a $100 a couple of times- but you have to act fast when they do cuz they don't stay around long. I actually prefer it to my Samsung Tablet. Getting the Google Play Store on it is easy and it's fairly simple to root and disable some of the bloatware, though it's not necessary. With Launcher Hijack you can get your preferred Android layout if the Fire Launcher isn't jiving with you (it doesn't with most)
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I would suggest it 100%. Unless you are in a rush to replace your older tablet, though, I'd just keep my eyes peeled for a sale since they have come down to a $100 a couple of times- but you have to act fast when they do cuz they don't stay around long. I actually prefer it to my Samsung Tablet. Getting the Google Play Store on it is easy and it's fairly simple to root and disable some of the bloatware, though it's not necessary. With Launcher Hijack you can get your preferred Android layout if the Fire Launcher isn't jiving with you (it doesn't with most)
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Thanks, it seems like a good tablet from what I've seen. Thanks for the input.