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Am thinking of trading my Universal for someone's Wizard. Was wondering what you guys think of that.
Thoughts?
Offers?
Thanks!
Cyb
Do it and dont look back.
Main reason? EDGE compatibility. Especially as your in the US.
Only thing the Uni has that I want over and above the Wizard is VGA. But I can live with the tiny QVGA screen on the Wizard. The VGA screen is the main reason the Uni is so sluggish anyway, as it uses the processor as its video controller instead of a seperate VGA chip.
Cya
Stot
I suggest you check the Pocket PC forum on HowardForums.com first. Quite a few people are extremely unhappy with their Wizards, while owners of Universals seem rather happy.
You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)
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You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)
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well I'm definately getting opinions! keep 'em coming...
Cyb
Ferarri - BMW.. Not entirely true.
The Universal on its face is a good device. But once you start using it it has its annoyances that can outweigh the VGA screen, the only great thing it has going for it. It has a faster CPU but its impacted by the fact that the CPU is drawing 4 times the screen real estate which slows it down a LOT.
Ram/Rom is the same
Both have a QWERTY K/B
Both have Bluetooth
Both have 1.3MP camera.
Also be aware that in the US there is no 3G WCDMA network, there is 3G EDGE rolling out tho, so the Wiz can go 3G out here.
Oh and the Wiz has Wifi b and g and will be upgradeable via rom to e and i too. Universal is b only.
IMO the Universal is a little too fragile also. Not sure about the Wiz as i havent got it yet but its on its way and I had a play with it. its seemed to be more sturdy.
So. Its more like comparing a Ferarri towing a caravan, looks great fairly slick and fast engine bogged down, to a Caterham 7. Looks great, bit smaller, less powerfull engine, fairly robust, No caravan.
Cya
Stot
i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike
i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike
The Wizard has a keyboard.....all right.....BUT, it doesnt have a separate row for numbers (0-9). It shares it with the qwert... keys, and that's simply bad!
IMHO, i think this is a handicap, and is a bad limitation for a device which claims to have a native hw based keyboard...
S
ferrari and BMW?
Think not you are giving the wizard too much credit.
Main problems with the wizard: Too small, it is a stuck up mda compact.
The processor is downright slow.
You are living in the US so yeah, edge is the only option for the 3g network.
Still I think you should not just throw it away and get the wizard.
Furthermore if you do change it is a waste of your money, as the wizard is much cheaper then the universal.
Offcourse there are problems with the universal... what did you expect.
The universal uses vga, which is not supported yet. It uses wm5 too which is not highly compatible with known programs either.
I suggest you wait a while before you do something I am sure you will regret sooner or later.
Thanks!
I want to thank you guys for your responses... I have decided to keep my universal and just continue to use my Sierra Wireless VOQ as a back up when the Uni is TOO MUCH
Now... let's begin with a new ROM...
Thanks again...
Cyb
Im down with the trade!!
I would check your exec they are just as cheap. I dropped my orange variant and the case split open. I am unbiased as I have both and actually vga is supported nativly since wm 2003. So it is not a new thing manuafactures choose not to implement screens.
Wizard thogh a tad slower gets the job done, remeber the tortoise and the bunny. Besides have you actually looked at the benchmarks for the exec they are not that inspiring.
I guess I am British in that sense I am used to waiting, like British transport you will be waiting but it will get yo there though.
battery life
however the wizard is like a moped sipping vegetable oil compared with the universal like a mustang on premium gas when it comes to battery life...
Has anybody got hands on this ?
http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1364&page=1
I am interested in what seems to be a today plugin that looks like the real a***e interface.
Please note the new apple made in china
I had a buddy who was going to buy one of these off of ebay. After a brief convo of the pros and cons, she ultimately chose not to go with one of these. IMO I would pass on these due the lack of support and that its too much of a gamble to go with one of these knock-offs.
I am interested in finding out what that light sensor app is all about though?
Well I am interested only in the software that is used. That seems interesting...
well is not possible to see on those pictures how the I-phone like home interface works and what kind of software use, but what about if they are using parts of software developed from users of XDA to realize this I-Phone look....!!!! i could believe it....!!!!
Whatever it is, the icon by "Start" in one of the screen shots of programs is the default for something created using PPL.
Ok, I found on youTube some videos. It's pretty much fake. And probably they've used xda-developers.
mmm... it seems to be a wm6? with an ifonz on it...
the plastic around the screen seems to be apple-like, but it's not...
what a wonderful world!
iClone
I liked only the body....
If were possible to change the body of P3600 with this....I would do this.
(sorry my bad english)
Intrrteresting??
I was actually going to get one of these, that is until I noticed the phone didnt have the features of the real thing. Although if it is running WM's on it I wonder if it capable of being upgraded? If so, with, ifonz, S2U2, PocketCM, and others, then this phone could for sure be made into an 1phone. Cool nock off though. (notice)= in the picture from the link, if you look at the screen it looks like a standard ppc screen, not full screen like the apple one. The specs of it seems standard, a phone with the hardware of an 1phone* "clever"... I wanna get one...
Look at the link. It's running WM.
My friends uncle bought one of these 2 weeks ago in india...and he says its really nice and he loves it.
dwizzy130
I have one and yes, it does run the real winmo 6 with word and media player, etc. I have installed s2p, s2u2, s2v (Though it does come with its own version). I love it. The light sensor will change the backlight and brightness of the screen to whatever is best for the room you are in. So if you walk outside at noon you will still be able to see the screen like you saw it in the building you just came from. Also the rotate screen feature and 2 cameras are cool.
I get alot of my apps for my phone from this site and I just wanted to say thanks to all the developers here.
hey.. just curious if anybody's gonna pick up a touch diamond? i'm thinking of grabbing one next week.. although i've got to admit, the diamond forums are full of drama right now haha
i've thought about buying one.. but then there is the new iphone coming out too.. and now that im primarily a mac osx user.. windows mobile just cant sync right to osx :/
yeah true... i had an iphone for a while.. fun, but the organizer functions i found cumbersome.. setting appointments and stuff, and the new one isn't really much different than the old one ha.. i was expecting more out of apple..
so looks like its diamond time for me
If my Triny died today that's probably what I would get, but as its still going, the lack of expandable memory is a showstopper for me. 4Gb just doesn't cut it.
Although if racerx_ heads that way we may all need to follow just to support the future diamondguides.info
Touch Pro
I'm considering a Touch Pro. I'm waiting for the relsease as well as the feedback from those who buy it.
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... windows mobile just cant sync right to osx :/
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SyncMate syncs very nicely between my iMac and my Trinity, even the free version: http://mac.eltima.com/sync-mac.html
As to the iPhone, I am also waiting to see what happens. I love the Trinity, but compared t the UI of the iPhone, it looks downright primitive:-(
If TomTom, which is coming out with navigation software for the iPhone, gets their PNA graphics (version 8) in the iPhone version, I think I might jump. Plus, I like the idea of 16gb storage built in.
On the other hand, I am still kind of happy with the Trinity
HTC Touch Diamond P3700
I bought a HTC P3700 UK and I'm very happy with it.
This interface is very good, but I dislike the integration with Opera. The GPS works good too with TomTom 6.032. The display is great (nice resolution) and touch works good too. The stylus is magnetic and clicks into the cover.
It behaves a little bit slow and the battery goes pretty fast, but it's loaded still with the original ROM.
The P3600 is still in use too, but it's for my wife. I wouldn't have bought it as a second phone or something like that.
next phone is iphone 3g, tomtom has the app ready for it, that sold me.
TomTom 6 is fine, but I have iGO 8 on my Trinity, and like the graphics of the new iGo much better.
The Endgadget picture shows a mockup of the iPhone with TT 6, which is a bit bleh for me, now that I am used to iGo 8. But it's only a mockup.
Now, TomTom 8 has great graphics, but it's not available for WM, only for PNAs (which are Linux-based.) If the iPhone version of TT has the new graphics from TT 8, it would be a killer device.
no diamond for me there is no extension card slot...
My PDA is my brain extension and so i need looooooot of space and 4g is too weak for stockage.
an iPhone? no it is too slow and too much basic...
so i keep my 3600 until someone build a new versatile PDA as the 3600/3650... (even from HTC it seem that there is no project like this... )
rl66 said:
no diamond for me there is no extension card slot...
My PDA is my brain extension and so i need looooooot of space and 4g is too weak for stockage.
an iPhone? no it is too slow and too much basic...
so i keep my 3600 until someone build a new versatile PDA as the 3600/3650... (even from HTC it seem that there is no project like this... )
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I totally agree!!
Anyone thinking of buying the Samsung Omnia??
http://samsungomnia.org/reviews
The Specs look the best Device yet!!??
ausi said:
I totally agree!!
Anyone thinking of buying the Samsung Omnia??
http://samsungomnia.org/reviews
The Specs look the best Device yet!!??
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The resolution is 4 times lower than that of a HTC 3700...
diamond or pro for me....im due a upgrade in july
will wait htc dream ... WM sucks
I'm due an upgrade in december so if the diamond forums have the same sort of support and help as the trinity then I'll consider it - the 4gb in built memory is ample for me. Obviously by then there will be alot more to choose from.
If I could justify it I'd get one 2moro.
Really happy P3700 owner here !
As a happy Trinity (and before that Wizard) owner, heavily exposed to the first generation iPhone (my wife's,) I'd suggest to anyone looking for a smart phone right now to wait and take a serious look at the 3g iPhone. With GPS built in and Exchange support, it should be able to do pretty much everything, with what is IMO the best, by far, UI out there.
And 16gb built-in should be enough for the full world-map collection of TomTom, plus a bunch of music and a few movies and games. It's really the one to beat, IMO, and I don't see anything else on the horizon that can touch it (no pun intended.)
P.S. As to TomTom's NovCore 8, which I hope they implement for PDAs and the iPhone, here is a link to the Lane Change graphics: http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ore+8&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&sa=N
I still think iGo has better overall graphics though.
I'm hoping to get a HTC Touch Pro... someday...
But as all new devices, they're so expensive....
As long as my trinity keeps working, I'm going to try and save some money for the upgrade.
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As a happy Trinity (and before that Wizard) owner, heavily exposed to the first generation iPhone (my wife's,) I'd suggest to anyone looking for a smart phone right now to wait and take a serious look at the 3g iPhone. With GPS built in and Exchange support, it should be able to do pretty much everything, with what is IMO the best, by far, UI out there.
And 16gb built-in should be enough for the full world-map collection of TomTom, plus a bunch of music and a few movies and games. It's really the one to beat, IMO, and I don't see anything else on the horizon that can touch it (no pun intended.)
P.S. As to TomTom's NovCore 8, which I hope they implement for PDAs and the iPhone, here is a link to the Lane Change graphics: http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ore+8&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&sa=N
I still think iGo has better overall graphics though.
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Yep, except some few basic features that have been forgotten though:
- SMS
- copy and paste function (I know it's unbelievable, but they did miss that)
- Flash and autofocus for camera
- video recording
- 3 G visio call function (that one sounds incredible too, since all 3G capable phones nowadays have a front camera for visio-calls, but they did miss that one too...)
(the freedom to use any soft, any ringtone, any game, any battery u like and not only the ones you bought from apple online stores would be valuable though, but I know that would be asking too much)
I know some apple fan-boys may give us a thousand reasons why those features are useless, but so they did one year ago when the Iphone 1 missed 3G capability, and now, the same guys who was saying that 3G was useless keep saying that the new Iphone is a killer because.... it is 3G capable!
According to me too, the Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) seems to be the best device choice available this summer.
i am personally waiting for the android phones=- apparently HTC are releasing new models of the diamond and touch pro before the end of the year- i am hoping one of the models is a diamond with 16GB storage plus and expansino slot- this would make it a near-perfect device for me!!
Even better would be if it ran android!
i know the topic title sounds highly unprofessional but i'm just very excited because it seems that there's finally going to be a proper version (including landscape) of tf3d for the new htc touch pro 2 which will likely be ported to xperia from a pro/h4xor here at xda...perfect day
Yup it looks pretty good:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/first-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-pro2-with-video/
woohooo!
touch pro 2 is wonderful!!
love its full qwerty....
Seems like a pretty potent business phone. It also looks like all the tabs works in landscape.
Does look like TF3D will be doable in landscape then, that'll be nice.
I like the look of this phone, though the one thing I'll be waiting for is the same form factor (large 800x400 screen, covering practically the entire face of the phone, along with the hardware keyboard) with a bit more processor grunt behind it. The snapdragons should be about right I hope. Seeing all emulators up to SNES level working *flawlessly* would be a very nice proposition with a hardware keyboard. Maybe add a proper optical mouse style pad and I'd be sold.
Damn it. Is it really that hard to make a quad band UMTS phone like the Kaiser? Why UTMS 850 for US is again missing for both TP2 and Diamond2 (at least for the first batch)?
man I just traded my Touch HD for the Xperia x1... now I'm already considering this one. Its like combining the two phones. Can't wait until more reviews come out.
looking good! better than the "IDOU" (hope i spelled that right) i think, (or maybe i should be comparing the idou to the diamond 2 )...no 3.5mm jack though....i'm hoping the amazin devs here will be able to port that tf3d to the X1 as well!
That looks a nice phone, kind of wish id held off now on x1i. Guess ill just have to tinker with it for the next 18 months to keep me intersted. Definately sticking with winmo devices from now on
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Yup it looks pretty good:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/first-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-pro2-with-video/
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Why does that video bug me? Something's not quite right. Something about tapping Jerome....
Why no 3g US bands... HTC has nbo love for the USA... Guess they don't like $$. Or wait... FCC crap?! What kind of a world do we live in!? Why can't we all just be like startrek and work to better the community...
It looks like Iphone+N97...
I read lot's of good info under this post, but I would like to ask what would be the best move to buy for $100?
I have a Sony Xperia Z Ultra, so it will be so easy to check my wrist instead of pulling that monster out of my packet every time. Also I am looking something "classy" looking watch face , please help me out. Will be a good choice the Smart Q Z?
SmartQ Z isn't really what I'd call a classy design. Are you looking for something with calling features? Or just a watch that can give you notifications? If you're looking for calling features, I'd probably go with a LX36 Galaxy Gear 2 clone (dhgate.com). It's a dumbwatch, meaning it runs a j2me system, not full Android, but, it has notifications and calling. If you're looking for notifications and mini-apps, I'd pick up a Sony Smartwatch 2 off of ebay. They're going for right around $100 these days and has a classier design. Other than that, there's not much on the market for $100.
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I read lot's of good info under this post, but I would like to ask what would be the best move to buy for $100?
I have a Sony Xperia Z Ultra, so it will be so easy to check my wrist instead of pulling that monster out of my packet every time. Also I am looking something "classy" looking watch face , please help me out. Will be a good choice the Smart Q Z?
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Check out the elegance u8 thread
What I am looking for ,something has a design look , clear screen, has a built in camera (works itself not as remote) & I can use for saving pdf or notes for test in the class.. Large enough screen to see it, not necessary a standalone device, answer phone call would be a plus ,but I am not expecting a lot about that considering to the noise reduction , etc.. Would be nice with an app for running , or hearth reading
Other than that , I don't really care...
atti_clearw said:
What I am looking for ,something has a design look , clear screen, has a built in camera (works itself not as remote) & I can use for saving pdf or notes for test in the class.. Large enough screen to see it, not necessary a standalone device, answer phone call would be a plus ,but I am not expecting a lot about that considering to the noise reduction , etc.. Would be nice with an app for running , or hearth reading
Other than that , I don't really care...
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So...basically you want a watch that has everything. Kingelon K2, which is a Galaxy Gear 1 clone, is the only one that's going to fit your price range. Doesn't have the heart rate monitor, but, it has the camera and can save pdf/notes. It runs full Android. It can be found at dhgate.com as well.
Yes , that Star Kingelon K2 really looks nice, but I couldn't find on Ebay, I know Vifocal.com was selling under $90, but they are out of stock. Also I was reading about it , and they saying the battery holds for only 6h??
What about ZGPAX S5 or S6?
atti_clearw said:
Yes , that Star Kingelon K2 really looks nice, but I couldn't find on Ebay, I know Vifocal.com was selling under $90, but they are out of stock. Also I was reading about it , and they saying the battery holds for only 6h??
What about ZGPAX S5 or S6?
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K2 can be found on dhgate.com from numerous sellers. ZGPAX S5 and S6 aren't what I would call a classy design and are both standalone phones with no sync software from the company itself. They also both run an outdated Android 4.04 operating system out of the box.
atti_clearw said:
Yes , that Star Kingelon K2 really looks nice, but I couldn't find on Ebay, I know Vifocal.com was selling under $90, but they are out of stock. Also I was reading about it , and they saying the battery holds for only 6h??
What about ZGPAX S5 or S6?
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The more functionality a watch has = less battery life. And vice versa so you have to make a choice which you prefer.
The WeLoop gives 2-3weeks but with basic functions and the opposite side you have the Gear S.
atti_clearw said:
Yes , that Star Kingelon K2 really looks nice, but I couldn't find on Ebay, I know Vifocal.com was selling under $90, but they are out of stock. Also I was reading about it , and they saying the battery holds for only 6h??
What about ZGPAX S5 or S6?
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The more functionality a watch has = less battery life. And vice versa so you have to make a choice which you prefer.
The WeLoop gives 2-3weeks but with basic functions and the opposite side you have the Gear S.
So why is the Star Kingelon K2 is better than the original Samsung gear watch is cheaper now ? K2 around $100 SG is around $90-100.
Is the K2 knows more things?
atti_clearw said:
So why is the Star Kingelon K2 is better than the original Samsung gear watch is cheaper now ? K2 around $100 SG is around $90-100.
Is the K2 knows more things?
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Samsung Gear 1 is supposed to only work with Samsung phones. There are some mods to get it working on non-Samsung phones, but, notifications are screwy without additional notification software like Tablet Talk. Not to mention, the Gear 1 received an update which converted the watch over to Tizen rather than Android. Tizen has a long way to go in terms of functionality and apps compared to Android.
It seems it would be a lot less hassle to just get a watch that would be supported on your non-Samsung device out of box and one that runs Android by default. That's the K2.
Thank you for all of you , I just need to find one now for a better price? 1 more question, is the K2 has an option to read pdf ?
atti_clearw said:
Thank you for all of you , I just need to find one now for a better price? 1 more question, is the K2 has an option to read pdf ?
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I don't think you're going to find a better price. You're asking a lot for such a small price. The K2 runs full Android so yes, it can read PDFs. You may have to download an app to read them if support isn't there out of box. But, yeah, it'll do a PDF.
Thank You again. The cheapest I found is $110.87 free shipping.
1 more thing Any of you heard about Cross Country watch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkVNnNl8Ds
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_69404.html
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1 more thing Any of you heard about Cross Country watch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkVNnNl8Ds
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_69404.html
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It's a Umeox OEM watch. Sold under numerous names like Omate Truesmart. It's a stand alone phone. Not worth it according to many Omate users.
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1 more thing Any of you heard about Cross Country watch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkVNnNl8Ds
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_69404.html
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Yup, its the Omate clone, its got every functionality you want, it had many names, Z8, Z15 is the latest name for $129
Here's the thread.
Battery life is an issues with ALL watches, this one is slightly better then the others.
Wait... You're looking for basically a $100 cheating watch?
Sent from my m7spr
Not just for cheating, but it is a plus I would call it "the reminder"..
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Not just for cheating, but it is a plus I would call it "the reminder"..
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If I were you I would buy the Galaxy Gear... Keep it on android and install the SWApp Link app on your Phone and Smartwatch, instead of using Samsung's notification system and problem solved. Galaxy Gear looks great, superb OLED screen, and fast GPU and Processor, its basically an underclocked Galaxy S2