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ARM or MIPS

What type of processor does the XDAII use, ARM or MIPS?

The xda2 uses the pxa263 processor, this is an arm compatable chip afaik. The mips processor in pocket pc is a dead end, there is no upgrade path for these via new releases of firmware.

not sure if it also goes for pocketpc2000 but at least 2002 is not made for mips
arm and excale which are code compatible are the only cpu's currently supportet by pocketpc

When it comes to buying software it's the ARM version you need for the XDA II.

[Q] Adreno 130 GPU driver for WM 6

Helo,
recently I've started to think how can I improve my Toshiba G910. I've read that it is almost impossible to cook new ROM so I thought that maybe new graphic driver would help. I found out that this phone is on Qualcomm msm7200 and Adreno 130.
In specification that GPU supports hardware acceleration for 2D and 3D, is it possible to rewrite opensource drivers for snapdragon so it would work on WM 6 based devices?
Thanks for replays
ZawadaZSE

I think it maybe more complicated than that. The Snapdragon CPU's utilize newer hardware, which the GPU is Adreno 200/205 models. They have OpenGL 2.0 mobile drivers and such. The drivers, i believe, are written for them.
That being said, I do not think that writing open source drivers written for snapdragon will not work on the processor you currently have. I am using a Touch Pro and it has the same CPU as your device (mine has a higher clockspeed). They are completely different drivers, snapdragon's core is different, and do not forget these are "system on a chip (SoC)" cpu's.
There maybe drivers floating around to utilize the full power of the snapdragon on a WM6.x device because the Toshiba TG01, HTC HD2, and LG eXpo all have the same 1Ghz Snapdragon Processor. Again, these drivers would be not compatible with your device seeing you have a different chip.
I would say to try and install the touch diamond 3D drivers. The hardware/software set in our processors used to be ATI Imageon. I have the drivers installed on my device and the 3D games do run at full FPS. Before installing the driver, the 3D games (Xtrakt and Experiment 13) ran at 2 FPS. with the drivers, i get about 23 FPS. maybe its worth looking at these drivers that already exist. Can not tell you how to cook a ROM because i am not a chef but for drivers to try out i would say the touch diamond 3D drivers maybe a good starting place.

Possible new way to load OSes onto Gen 8 devices

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236273
If I understand this thread correctly, the developers have figured out a way to replace bootloaders in devices that run the Cortex A8 processor. I checked and I think all of the Gen8 devices that Archos makes run this chip. Right now the developers in thread are looking for people to donate broken/not wanted devices with the C-A8 chips to be able to make their program run for specific devices. I figured I would post this here in case someone has a Gen 8 Archos device they might want to send these guys for the cause...

The problem is that it needs some harware modifications, so not many people will try it :s

@Guanfy
This is for the samsung hummingbird processor, not a ti omap.

Yupp, fzelle is right...
The Cortex-A8 is just the CPU core of the so called SoC's running in our devices.
Samsungs Hummingbird and Ti's OMAP are completely different architectures but running the same core.
BTW, they are tweaking the boot mode pins of Hummingbird to make it "unbrickable".
On A101 there are similar pins
Anyway if you like tweaking hardware see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199450
Though it is not pointed out very clearly, but...
by using peripheral boot mode and the Ti Flash tool you may put anything you like into your devices SDRAM and execute it
Regards,
scholbert

[Q] CPU-Z identifies CPU as ARM instead of Samsung...

Hi,
I just download CPU-Z from Google Play here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cpuid.cpu_z
But I'm amazed because it identifies Nexus10 CPU manufacturer as ARM instead of Samsung. In fact CPU manufacturer detected is 0x41, that is ARM not Samsung...
Please, can any owner of another Nexus10 run CPU-Z in order to know if there is the same issue or is just related to my processor.
Thanks and best regards.

Well it is an ARM core design, and the GPU is a straight ARM design as well.

EniGmA1987 said:
Well it is an ARM core design, and the GPU is a straight ARM design as well.
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I know, but I have a serious overheating problem with my nexus 10. Maybe it can be avoided if there are different processors used in nexus 10 build. That's why I ask if someone can check it in his/her machine, to know if it's possible.
Thanks and best regards.

No one has a different processor, and the overheating affects everyone. Pretty much anything you do will always hit thermal throttling which is why everyone should run a custom kernel since that tweaks the way throttling works.

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No one has a different processor
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That's exactly what I want to confirm. Sometimes internal parts were changed/replaced due to lack of stock (and it was a common situation for the nexus 10).
Did you run CPU-Z to check the processor?
Thanks and best regards.

VivaErBetis said:
That's exactly what I want to confirm. Sometimes internal parts were changed/replaced due to lack of stock (and it was a common situation for the nexus 10).
Did you run CPU-Z to check the processor?
Thanks and best regards.
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It is ARM, mostly. Mali, the GPU portion of the chip, is from ARM.
BTW, there were too few Nexus 10 devices sold to have a part shortage. Even the Surface RT outsold the Nexus 10.

VivaErBetis said:
That's exactly what I want to confirm. Sometimes internal parts were changed/replaced due to lack of stock (and it was a common situation for the nexus 10).
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Why do you think some Nexus 10's have a different processor? I highly doubt they put in anything other than an Exynos 5 Dual and yet only list that CPU on their official specs page. More likely is that CPU-Z simply doesn't have a complete database of all the ARM processors out there, particularly since the Nexus 10 is the first Android device with a Cortex A15 CPU and there still aren't that many A15 CPUs out there.

joakim_one said:
Why do you think some Nexus 10's have a different processor? I highly doubt they put in anything other than an Exynos 5 Dual and yet only list that CPU on their official specs page. More likely is that CPU-Z simply doesn't have a complete database of all the ARM processors out there, particularly since the Nexus 10 is the first Android device with a Cortex A15 CPU and there still aren't that many A15 CPUs out there.
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Note the "Field Name" is CPU Architecture, not CPU. This is an important distinction, because CPU-Z is identifying the CPU "type" not the exact make/model from that manufacturer.
Samsung's Exynos CPU used in the N10 was advertised as using the latest "licensed Cortex ARM" design of A15. For more detail see http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/index.php for a list of the various ARM-A designs.
ARM doesn't necessarily produce the processors themselves, but develops and then licenses the IP to the various CPU manufacturers that want to create ARM "type" CPU's. Even though it's modified, Qualcomm still pays for the IP so that their instruction sets for Krait are compatible with the competition.
So with CPU-Z, you'll see "ARM Cortex-A15" for our N10's and "Krait" on my Samsung GS3.

SeaFractor said:
Note the "Field Name" is CPU Architecture, not CPU. This is an important distinction, because CPU-Z is identifying the CPU "type" not the exact make/model from that manufacturer.
Samsung's Exynos CPU used in the N10 was advertised as using the latest "licensed Cortex ARM" design of A15. For more detail see http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/index.php for a list of the various ARM-A designs.
ARM doesn't necessarily produce the processors themselves, but develops and then licenses the IP to the various CPU manufacturers that want to create ARM "type" CPU's. Even though it's modified, Qualcomm still pays for the IP so that their instruction sets for Krait are compatible with the competition.
So with CPU-Z, you'll see "ARM Cortex-A15" for our N10's and "Krait" on my Samsung GS3.
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I'm well aware of how ARM licensing works. If you look at his screenshot, it doesn't identify his processor as a Samsung Exynos 5, but your screenshot shows a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4. That is probably because they don't have the Exynos 5 in their database yet.

Thanks for all the answers. I contacted CPU-Z devs to ask about this issue and they change the soc recognition in the new version published today.

Fortnite on Mi A2

Why Fortnite doesn't work on Mi A2/6X, Mi Pad 4 and other Snapdragon 660 devices and Fortnite work on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (it's a Snapdragon 660 phone) ?
https://twitter.com/anothrandomuser/status/1105563355111219205

I have hack the apk of the fortnite app and be able to download the game trust me , it's very slow and very buggy, you don't need it,,
Also servers kicks you out because of the lag,,,
Tried with the lowest setting possible :/

@Mashrmallow Fortnite doesn't support any SD660
Device. I tried modifying the apk and installing it on my Stock A2 but its lags like crazy not worth it

Varun.Shanbhag said:
@Mashrmallow Fortnite doesn't support any SD660
Device. I tried modifying the apk and installing it on my Stock A2 but its lags like crazy not worth it
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I think if Epic Games willbad the support for sdm6660 in Fortnite, the performance will be better because I already play on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (Another sdm660 device) and it's not buggy and it's payable

Mashrmallow said:
I think if Epic Games willbad the support for sdm6660 in Fortnite, the performance will be better because I already play on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (Another sdm660 device) and it's not buggy and it's payable
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I wish they add more support for more devices,,,

Mi A2 has adreno 512 gpu but fortnite requires adreno 530 gpu. If this can be sorted and graphics be a bit reduced fortnite can be played easily.

RawRachit said:
Mi A2 has adreno 512 gpu but fortnite requires adreno 530 gpu. If this can be sorted and graphics be a bit reduced fortnite can be played easily.
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Fortnite support Adreno 512 You because Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (sdm660) run it officially, Fortnite just didn't add compatibility for other sdm660 device

I checked for the specs to run fortnite, it shows that adreno 530 or higher is required.

RawRachit said:
I checked for the specs to run fortnite, it shows that adreno 530 or higher is required.
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I know but in the official device compatibility list it show Samsung Galaxy A9 (2018) and it's a sdm660 phone (Adreno 512) like the Mi A2/6X

Neverhopless said:
I know but in the official device compatibility list it show Samsung Galaxy A9 (2018) and it's a sdm660 phone (Adreno 512) like the Mi A2/6X
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What about custom kernel and performance mods ?
edit: what if we change our devices fingerprint to a9 2018 ?

Mashrmallow said:
Why Fortnite doesn't work on Mi A2/6X
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it works good and smooth on my mi a2. Use gltools for masking gpu

You probably don't even know the difference between CPU and GPU but it is normal, this is what I expect from the average fortnite player. Your phone, as well as all other phones, have both a CPU (the sdm660 for example) and a GPU (like the adreno 512, for example). Two phones can have the same CPU just like the A9 you are referring to and the A2 but have a different GPU. So probably the A9 doesn't have an Adreno512 GPU but a better one.

faffu41 said:
You probably don't even know the difference between CPU and GPU but it is normal, this is what I expect from the average fortnite player. Your phone, as well as all other phones, have both a CPU (the sdm660 for example) and a GPU (like the adreno 512, for example). Two phones can have the same CPU just like the A9 you are referring to and the A2 but have a different GPU. So probably the A9 doesn't have an Adreno512 GPU but a better one.
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It's a CPU+GPU board (APUs?), two phones with the same CPU will always have the same GPU (at least for Snapdragon devices). The Galaxy A9 have the Adreno 512, it's just marketing.

faffu41 said:
You probably don't even know the difference between CPU and GPU but it is normal, this is what I expect from the average fortnite player. Your phone, as well as all other phones, have both a CPU (the sdm660 for example) and a GPU (like the adreno 512, for example). Two phones can have the same CPU just like the A9 you are referring to and the A2 but have a different GPU. So probably the A9 doesn't have an Adreno512 GPU but a better one.
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For your information I know the difference between CPU and GPU and A9 have a Adreno 512 like the Mi A2 (It's the same CPU and GPU than a Mi A2 but only the A9 can run fortnite with a sdm660) and for a snapdragon processor case the GPU can't be different for the same processor (exemple: a Adreno 509 is impossible to be in a phone who use a sdm660, only a Adreno 512 is possible to be in a phone who use a sdm660)

PHPoenX said:
it works good and smooth on my mi a2. Use gltools for masking gpu
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I already tried this before but now it's not working anymore in the current version for me

q0kHaN said:
What about custom kernel and performance mods ?
edit: what if we change our devices fingerprint to a9 2018 ?
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That's will be the same if we change fingerprint to A9 2018 I guess fortnite check also codename, IMEI and GPU now

UnparallelSKY said:
That's will be the same if we change fingerprint to A9 2018 I guess fortnite check also codename, IMEI and GPU now
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it cant check imei cause it doesnt want phone permission afaik

UnparallelSKY said:
Why Fortnite doesn't work on Mi A2/6X, Mi Pad 4 and other Snapdragon 660 devices and Fortnite work on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (it's a Snapdragon 660 phone) ?
https://twitter.com/anothrandomuser/status/1105563355111219205
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yeah its because fortnite not allowing weak devices to play so that every phone user has the same advantage ( no lags and lack fps )
but it seems to make no sense since u said that the A9 can run it up but Mi A2 can't so yeah epic games is just so bad at maintaining the mobile version #_#