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do these parts work together
motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-M5A78L...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355242271&sr=1-1
2 graphics cards: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11...V8SI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1355241889&sr=8-3
case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/CiT-Vantage-Gaming-Audio-Reader/dp/B0071KZNUY/ref=pd_sim_computers_1
psu: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Mast...AKOM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355242153&sr=8-1
ram: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ...1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355242548&sr=1-2
cpu: http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Bulldoz...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355242232&sr=1-1
hdd: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST3...AGSO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1355242411&sr=8-3
are the specs good enough to run battlefield 3 smoothly on high settings
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do these parts work together
motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-M5A78L...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355242271&sr=1-1
2 graphics cards: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11...V8SI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1355241889&sr=8-3
case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/CiT-Vantage-Gaming-Audio-Reader/dp/B0071KZNUY/ref=pd_sim_computers_1
psu: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Mast...AKOM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355242153&sr=8-1
ram: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ...1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355242548&sr=1-2
cpu: http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Bulldoz...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1355242232&sr=1-1
hdd: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST3...AGSO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1355242411&sr=8-3
are the specs good enough to run battlefield 3 smoothly on high settings
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Your build is very similar to my current one. The mobo, case, cpu, psu and ram will all be fine. But you will not be able to run two gpus on that system. It only has one pcie x16 slot and can only take one graphics card. You'd be better off getting something like a 6850 or gtx 550/560.
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Your build is very similar to my current one. The mobo, case, cpu, psu and ram will all be fine. But you will not be able to run two gpus on that system. It only has one pcie x16 slot and can only take one graphics card. You'd be better off getting something like a 6850 or gtx 550/560.
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I would add that, as a general rule, if you don't do any video-editing or high-GPU intensive calculations (gaming is not one), a 2-cards setup is rarely worth it. You usually have a better deal by buying one high-end graphic card than 2-medium.
Of course, if you don't care about money, two 600$ cards will do wonders
Motherboard?¿ really good parts
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I'm not a huge fan of the case, you'd be better off having the PSU at the bottom of the case, not up top like it looks like. Tom's Hardware has a great article about air cooling set-ups that really helped me plan my set-up.
I'd also go for one better GPU than two, like roninfight said. Look up cards and how they run BF3 at your resolution. BF3 is gpu-dependent from what I remember, so the CPU isn't such a big issue for that particular game, but can be for others like Skyrim. Dual GPU can lead to micro-stuttering and other issues, even with the top-of-the-line cards - so unless you have a compelling reason to need the processing power, it's not really worth bothering with.
If you're looking for a gaming machine, I'd look at Intel processors. Unless things have had a big shake-up in the AMD camp (which I wouldn't really guess since AMD has publicly announced they're going to focus on the mobile market instead of desktop - but maybe they had something in the line). For most of the games I was planning on playing, the testing done put Intel CPUs ahead on pretty much all of them. I don't have hardware loyalty
If you were going with that set-up, I'd question if the PSU was enough - also, I would check out if it has enough connectors for two GPU. I'd have to look at it in-depth, but it seems from a glance that you'd be cutting it close and might only support one card, but I didn't go track down the specs on it.
Are these parts better http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/P4J2K9GHTWJ9
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Are these parts better http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/P4J2K9GHTWJ9
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PSU needs to be at least 500w and i recommend you get a single gpu instead of sli. It really isn't worth the hassle unless your running three screens or 2560x1600 resolution.
Change PSU to corsair as they're much better and I'd suggest nvidia instead as nvidia drivers are still better than amd's at the moment.
I'd also change from the 8 core amd to a quad core intel. I have a 2500k and its brilliant. make sure u get 64 bit os aswell!
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your build is all ok and puts well together in every aspect
Yes those are better
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IPCPARTPICKER is a great website that checks for compatibility and finds the best prices for your build. It uses many sources: Amazon, Newegg, etc.
Check it out, enter your build there.
Ok so i was just looking around when i saw this awesome piece of hardware. it has full physical controls and phone and messaging. Only downside is you cant hide controls but you get quadcore!
]http://www.dhgate.com/product/much-magic-media-i4-android-phone-handheld/167719397.html[/URL]
I think this is a better alternative, but obviously it all depends on several factors which cant be sorted unless someone has this device which is not out yet. Retail price when released is $170 with free shipping:
http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=639&selectclassid=009006
S7800b Specifications
Screen 7 inch IPS LCD, Resolution: 1280x800
Touch 5 point Capacitive Screen(G+G )
Chip RockChip 3188, Quad Core, 1.8GHz (cortex A9 CPU, ARM mali400 mp4 GPU)
DDR 2GB DDR3
Storage 8GB
OS Android 4.2.2
Games 100.000 Android games, 9 Emulator games(PS1, N64, Arcade CP1/CP2/Neo-Geo, GBA, SFC, MD, FC), Game Cloud, Tested games download Channel
Games Control 3 ways to control the games: 5-point capacitive touch screen, Buttons(L+R button, Dual joystick), G-sensor
Buttons Direction buttons, ABXY, LR, Dual joysticks, Select, Start, Vol+/-, Reset, POWER, Home, Back, Menu, Mode switch button
Network Wi-Fi(802.11 b/g/n), External Ethernet，3G Dongle
G-Sensor 3 Axis Gravity Sensor
Camera Front 0.3 MP, Back 2MP camera
Speaker Double Speaker
Video RMVB, VI, MPEG-4, WMV, F4V, FLV(Support the 3-rd party apps)
Audio MP3, WMA etc. (Support the 3-rd party apps)
Battery Built-in 5000mA rechargable Li-polymer battery
Charge with 5V 2A DC adaptor or USB
I/O USB2.0 High Speed
OTG: Connet Keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, 3G dongle, U disk and Hard disk
3.5mm Stereo earphone mini jack
Micro TF card slot, max 32GB
HDMI HDMI dual screen output，up to 1080P
Language Multi-languages
Operate Environment
Windows98SE/ME；Windows2000；Windows XP or above
Color Black,
Size Length: 245 mm Width：120.5 mm Height：16.5mm Weight：500g
In the box S7800, User’s Manual, USB,OTG, Charger
ozzmanj1 said:
I think this is a better alternative, but obviously it all depends on several factors which cant be sorted unless someone has this device which is not out yet. Retail price when released is $170 with free shipping:
http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=639&selectclassid=009006
S7800b Specifications
Screen 7 inch IPS LCD, Resolution: 1280x800
Touch 5 point Capacitive Screen(G+G )
Chip RockChip 3188, Quad Core, 1.8GHz (cortex A9 CPU, ARM mali400 mp4 GPU)
DDR 2GB DDR3
Storage 8GB
OS Android 4.2.2
Games 100.000 Android games, 9 Emulator games(PS1, N64, Arcade CP1/CP2/Neo-Geo, GBA, SFC, MD, FC), Game Cloud, Tested games download Channel
Games Control 3 ways to control the games: 5-point capacitive touch screen, Buttons(L+R button, Dual joystick), G-sensor
Buttons Direction buttons, ABXY, LR, Dual joysticks, Select, Start, Vol+/-, Reset, POWER, Home, Back, Menu, Mode switch button
Network Wi-Fi(802.11 b/g/n), External Ethernet，3G Dongle
G-Sensor 3 Axis Gravity Sensor
Camera Front 0.3 MP, Back 2MP camera
Speaker Double Speaker
Video RMVB, VI, MPEG-4, WMV, F4V, FLV(Support the 3-rd party apps)
Audio MP3, WMA etc. (Support the 3-rd party apps)
Battery Built-in 5000mA rechargable Li-polymer battery
Charge with 5V 2A DC adaptor or USB
I/O USB2.0 High Speed
OTG: Connet Keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, 3G dongle, U disk and Hard disk
3.5mm Stereo earphone mini jack
Micro TF card slot, max 32GB
HDMI HDMI dual screen output，up to 1080P
Language Multi-languages
Operate Environment
Windows98SE/ME；Windows2000；Windows XP or above
Color Black,
Size Length: 245 mm Width：120.5 mm Height：16.5mm Weight：500g
In the box S7800, User’s Manual, USB,OTG, Charger
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Does this have calling and messaging like the Much i5 and i4 does?
insane5125 said:
Does this have calling and messaging like the Much i5 and i4 does?
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as a device is it better i'll give you that.
insane5125 said:
Ok so i was just looking around when i saw this awesome piece of hardware. it has full physical controls and phone and messaging. Only downside is you cant hide controls but you get quadcore!
]http://www.dhgate.com/product/much-magic-media-i4-android-phone-handheld/167719397.html[/URL]
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Of course it's not
This is the best alternative http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092895
iphone 5 (the one and only smartphone in the world that does not lag in games)
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D.Spirit said:
Of course it's not
This is the best alternative http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092895
iphone 5 (the one and only smartphone in the world that does not lag in games)
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I'm sorry but i will never get an iphone and besides the game pad seems like crap where is the L and R triggers and also what about analog sticks? It also looks very uncomfortable because of how thin it is. So i'll correct myself this is the best android alternative to the xperia play featuring jelly bean 4.2 quadcore 1.2 ghz cores and pysicals controls. PS did i mention it can make calls and text.
I agree with the OP on best alternative, but A tablet isn't an alternative to our phones and neither is an iphone seeing that its not android.
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sony, hear us and make the xp2 please!
gustavolatil said:
sony, hear us and make the xp2 please!
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I couldn't have said it any better.:good:
oh god ,
Sony is sleeping like Bear on the winter ...
it's really really TIME TO ENTER THE XPERIA PLAY 2
The first white example is a bit too chunky for use as a phone/everyday use, IMO. The JXD looks fantastic. Any news on availability?
the ireadygo much i5 is available now, but is there gonna be support for it?
i think its time to buy it
oh sony , Dam.... u
why u always like to produce same design phone ..
is that made in china ?
JXD started production on the s7800 earlier this month. Once some people have it and it gets dev support, I think it will do very well. Especially considering price. My note 2 doesn't lag when running emulators. Someone said something about frame rate issues on a flash game I play with it too. Turns out if you look hard enough you can find a dev who made it better. Lightning browser doesn't have frame rate issues and I browse xvideos with it.
So I have decided to purchase the ireadygo much i5. It has phone and gaming functionality which makes it the closest devise to the xperia play. When it comes in I will post screen shots, benchmarks, videos, and anything requested. It will be in a thread by itself so look out for it. The much i5 is now available at willgoo.com for 219.99 if any one else is interested. Please look for and comment on my thread. Happy gaming fellow android users.
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insane5125 said:
So I have decided to purchase the ireadygo much i5. It has phone and gaming functionality which makes it the closest devise to the xperia play. When it comes in I will post screen shots, benchmarks, videos, and anything requested. It will be in a thread by itself so look out for it. The much i5 is now available at willgoo.com for 219.99 if any one else is interested. Please look for and comment on my thread. Happy gaming fellow android users.
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I think i may purchase this aswell
tezlewis1988 said:
I think i may purchase this aswell
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If so I would decide soon they have less than 50 in stock and once they run out you have to wait a while for them to restock. Also I have emailed them and accessories will be coming soon. :thumbup:
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Forgot to mention it has button mapping function built in so all games will work with the controls a d feel console quality.
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mehdi.moha said:
i think its time to buy it
oh sony , Dam.... u
why u always like to produce same design phone ..
is that made in china ?
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Because the design works and sells well. It's not cluttered with stuff that breaks ( flex cable, digitizer) or get clogged with dirt ( gamepad when disassembled)
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insane5125 said:
If so I would decide soon they have less than 50 in stock and once they run out you have to wait a while for them to restock. Also I have emailed them and accessories will be coming soon. :thumbup:
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Do you know if you can get it in white?
Hi all.
First of all, apologize my rude english.
I realize that there is no comments about this device on the forum.
A quick summary: GPD-Win is a Intel Atom X5 Z8550 gaming device (UMPC including gamepad) running Windows 10 (and possible DualOS with Android, after releasing the device)
The device main specs are:
Name: GPD-WIN
SoC: Inte X7-Z8550
RAM: 4GB Ram
STORAGE: 64GB
OS: Windows 10 Home *
UEFI 64 bits
Able to run another OS from MicroSD or USB
DISPLAY: 5,5" IPS, Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
RESOLUTION: 1280x720 (720p)
BATTERY: 6000mAh
TV Out: MicroHDMI
1 x USB 3.0 (Full Size Port)
1 x MicroUSB
Wifi 5GHz Dual Channel
Bluetooth 4.1
MicroSD Slot (128GB Support)
Updated SoC to Cherrytrail Z8550
Bluetooth module updated to 4.1
Wifi module updated from 2.4GHz (single channel) to 5GHz (dual channel)
Added X360 Guide Button to the layout.
Re-located some keys such PgUp, PgDn, Home, End
Mode Switch updated. There are 3 modes: DInput, Mouse, XInput
The device come with USB 3.0 Type-A (Full Size) port, and MicroUSB 2.0 port.
Added a big aluminium heatsink between the SoC and the keyboard, for heat dissipation.
There is a speaker system that will help to heat dissipation by vibrations.
About the size, comparing with GPD-XD is very similar, then Nintendo 3DSXL cases will be suitable to protect and carry this device too.
There are some new images from the prototype (Courtesy of GPD).
Front comparisson
Side
Comparing with GPD-XD
Mode Switcher
Buttons L1 and R1 detail. Now these buttons are more ergonomics.
Upper and Lower views
Source: Mod Edit: Fundraisering link removed.
I really think the price will not be $499 on release, because is a non-realistic price for the device. Most probably the device price will down to the campaign price, that is more reasonable price in my opinion ($299)
in any case, if there is any interest on this device, i will tray to write a review to post here (Hopefully, some time before the device release on the market).
If there is any question about this, let me know, and i will do my best on trying to get info from GPD.
Zalu2!
I've removed all fundraising talk from the OP and moved this to the proper area.
Fundraising talk and links are not allowed on XDA.
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Darth said:
I've removed all fundraising talk from the OP and moved this to the proper area.
Fundraising talk and links are not allowed on XDA.
Thanks,
Darth
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Ok
Apologyze about the link (i don´t know about it)
thanks for moving the thread. ^_^
Seriously going to love this Device when it comes out
Here will be my Setup for it
200GB MicroSD
500GB SSD USB 3.0 Velcro underneath the Device
Going to have to attach Carbon Fiber Skin Decal to it like I did with my GPD XD. Would mean having to Scan every Part of it to get it right like I did with the XD. LOL
So far, the Videos of this Device in Action are amazing. A User that received a Unit for Testing (Non-Fan Variant) so far has shown some promising results.
Ultra Street Fighter IV running, but Background Graphics are Removed. But I saw 1 Video where he got a Internet Challenge on it and then a Pop-Up Message came up saying the CPU Temp was around 80 Degrees C (177 F). Max Temp for the CPU is 90C. So it does allow for more recent Games if the Settings are just right. Also was able to run Wolfenstein - The New Order which is surprising to me. Graphics seemed to be stuttering but still able to run smoothly.
There was another Test for Emulators and it seemed to run PS2 Games pretty good. I gave a list of some Games/Emulators to test how it would go for my Standards. But from what I saw in the Videos, when it has the Variants WITH a CPU Cooling Fan, it should do quite well.
The only thing going through my head right now is: Why didnt someone think of creating a Device like this YEARS AGO?????? LOL. Finally, a Windows OS, Handheld, GamePad, Gaming Device. Just have a few problems with it:
Storage Size: 64GB ROM. Seriously??????? At best, after removing Applications I wont need, I will be left with maybe 45-50GB and thats if I am lucky for 50GB. 128GB would have been preferable.
No FULL Keyboard: Not a biggie, but would be nice. Will just have to use a Bluetooth Number Pad or Bluetooth Full Keyboard if it doesnt have a Pop-up for it.
Only 1 Full Size USB. I dont need the Mini-HDMI Port, nor will I be needing the Wireless Display. They could throw that out and replace it with a 2nd Full Size USB Port for additional Storage or USB Devices.
Directional Pad and Joystick: Seriously wish they would use a Directional Pad like the ones on the PS Vita same with the Joystick. Using the GPD XD which has the same Controls, it is kind of problematic.
But regardless of those mentioned Dislikes, this Device should be a Kick-### System for Gaming. Going to love finally having a Portable Windows Gaming System WITH Attached GamePad
Just hope it will be Released in October like they Estimate :fingers-crossed:
guys tell me something about the compatibility with Android, dual boot seems the easy way but, is it supported like an old gpd xd ?
if anybody is interested in the new aluminum version of the GPD Win, here's a $50 off coupon for geek buying: EMFQNEVZ
When I saw the topic of a beginner's guide to building a PC, I jumped for it because I remember building my first PC. It actually wasn't nearly as long ago as you'd think. I also remember how clueless I was. Obviously, I know about everything that goes inside of a computer, but once I was faced with the task of putting all of that together, I was like a deer in headlights.
PrerequisitesLet's start off with a list of everything that you're going to need:
CPU
Thermal paste
Motherboard
CPU cooler
Case
Power supply
RAM
Storage
GPU (optional unless you have an Intel F-series processor)
An operating system
And then, of course, don't forget about the necessary peripherals:
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
Speakers
Webcam
External peripherals are beyond the scope of this post, but take note of what you need, keeping in mind that the PC you're building doesn't have the built-in parts of an all-in-one PC, like a microphone, speakers, and a webcam.
How to get started or: Pick a CPUFirst of all, and I cannot stress this enough, PCPartPicker is your friend. The site lets you plug in a list of parts that you're planning on using and it will tell you if there are any compatibility issues. It's super useful. In fact, even if you know that your parts should be good to go, run them through PCPartPicker anyway just to make sure.
The other key thing you need to do when getting started is to pick a CPU. This is an important first step because you're pretty much building out the PC around this choice. There aren't any motherboards that support both Intel and AMD CPUs.
Choosing between AMD and Intel (see, I didn't put the same company first twice in a row so you guys can't yell at me) is the first step. Once you do that, you can decide what kind of performance that you need. I wrote a guide to Intel CPUs and what the product names mean. With AMD, you have Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, and Ryzen 9, and performance goes according to how high that number is. The same goes with Intel and the Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, and Core i9.
Intel has a bunch of different suffixes. If there isn't one, it's a standard 65W desktop processor, so something like a Core i5-11600 is pretty mainstream. Add a K and it's now a 125W processor that's unlocked for overclocking. And as mentioned above, an F means that it does not have integrated graphics, so you'll need a graphics card.
Pick a motherboard, or a case, or bothNext, you have to pick a motherboard and a case. I'm including both in this section because it's a matter of priorities. Do you want a case that fits your motherboard or a motherboard that fits your case? If you already know what case you want to use, start there and find motherboards that work. If not, start with a motherboard that has what you want.
First, let's cut your motherboard choices in half. If you're using AMD Ryzen, you need an AM4 socket. In you're using Intel 10th- or 11th-gen, you need an LGA 1200 socket. Note that with Intel, 12th-gen will use a new socket, so this is not upgradeable.
Next, you have to pick the size of your motherboard, and this is where compatibility with the case comes in. There's eATX, ATX, mATX, and mini-ITX, all in size order. This very much comes down to how big of a PC you want to build. Looking for something that's super-small and can hide behind your monitor? That's where mini-ITX comes in. Want something big and beefy that's going to have some serious power and thermals? Go for eATX.
When picking a case, it will tell you what size board it can fit. Obviously, the CPU, motherboard, and case choices go hand in hand.
Now that you've narrowed down your motherboard choices to the socket and the size, you're in good shape. It's time to start looking at ports, PCIe slots, and more. Make sure that you've got the ports to plug in what you need and the latest USB standard. Make sure you've got enough memory slots. A big one is the graphics card you want to use. Make sure there's room for it not only on the board, but in the case.
Pick a CPU cooler and thermal pasteNow, it's time to figure out how you're going to keep that CPU cool. Here's the bottom line. The more your CPU heats up, the worse the performance gets. The cooler you can keep it, the more it can sustain peak performance.
The first thing that you have to choose between is air cooling and liquid cooling, and there are pros and cons to each. Air coolers can be easier to install and more cost-effective, but if you want a good one, they take up a lot of space. Liquid cooling can be better if you plan on doing a lot of overclocking.
Personally, I'm a big fan of air coolers from Noctua. I use a Noctua NH-U12A, which is not only designed to be one of the best air coolers around, but it's quiet too.
So, after you decide if you want liquid or air cooling, you then have to looking at how cool it keeps the CPU and also how much noise it makes. That noise is important.
Then there's the thermal paste, which sits between the CPU and the CPU cooler. The more evenly it's applied, the better the cooling. Many CPU coolers, like the one I mentioned above from Noctua, come with thermal paste. You can always shop around though. A tube of thermal paste costs under $10, so using the best one there is should be an easy way to keep your CPU cool.
Pick a power supply and a GPUAs you can see, a lot of these parts go hand in hand. In fact, once you've put this all together, you'll find that they all go hand in hand. But we can't talk about the power supply without picking a GPU.
Picking a GPU is optional. Like I said, you might want a simple productivity machine with a Core i5 and integrated graphics. You also might want a gaming rig with an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090. And then there's everything in-between.
With that in mind, you need to pick a power supply. This is an area that you'd definitely be well-off to use PCPartPicker for. It will tell you the wattage of all of the parts you've picked so far, and then tell you if there are any compatibility issues with you pick a power supply. I'd suggest picking one with plenty of wattage to spare so you can upgrade down the line.
Another thing is that you should definitely get a modular PSU (power supply unit). That means that the power cables aren't attached to the PSU itself. You can add cables as you need to, and since you're a builder now, you're probably going to need to at some point.
The other thing that's important is efficiency. You'll see an 80 PLUS rating that can be Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, or Titanium. This is important, because it's based on how much power is lost due to heat.
RAM, storage, and OSIf you've made it this far, you're in good shape. This is the easy part.
With RAM, you want more, and you want faster. It's that simple. You can also look up how fast of memory your CPU supports and go for that. The same goes for storage. An M.2 SSD is the way to go if you can, but there are also SATA SSDs. You can get an HDD if you're on a really tight budget, but I don't recommend it.
As far as the OS goes, it's between Windows and Linux. Windows costs money; Linux doesn't. I'm not really here to tell you which one you should go for.
Putting it all togetherAlright, you've got all of your parts and you're ready to build your dream PC! It's the second-most exciting feeling behind the first boot.
Most of this is going to be about plugging things in where they fit, but sadly, it's not that simple. You need to start working through the manuals that came with your motherboard and your case. Those are going to tell you exactly what to plug in where, and most of it is fairly straightforward. There are few things that will actually break if you do them wrong.
The one thing that will break if you do it wrong is installing the CPU in the motherboard. It's important not to apply any unnecessary pressure when doing this because you could bend the pins on the chip or the board (depending on who made the CPU). Damage one of those and you've got some very expensive paperweights very quickly. To be clear, there's nothing to be afraid of here and it's very easy to do. Practice some healthy caution and you'll be fine.
Installing the motherboard in the case is something you'll need to follow instructions to do, which is fine, as it's easy enough. Once it's screwed into place, there will be several cables in the case that have to plug into the board. These will be for fans built into the case, for additional USB ports, and so on.
The other thing you'll have to install in the case is the PSU. Read the instructions and make sure the fan in the PSU is facing the right way. This is not something that you want to do incorrectly. There are a few cables to plug into the case and the board. Once the GPU is installed, you'll have to plug that in too.
Next, you'll probably be installing the CPU cooler. Make sure to apply thermal paste before you do. A pea-sized dot right in the middle of the CPU will do it. Do your best to bring the cooler directly down on the CPU, rather than doing it from an angle. This will spread it evenly across the chip.
Obviously, the graphics card, the storage, and RAM can fit into their respective slot. Note that for most boards, if you have four RAM slots and you only have two RAM sticks, you're better off separating them by one slot for dual-channel memory.
Once that's all done, you should be ready to plug it in and boot it up. You might not want to close the case on first-run, so you can make sure all of the fans are spinning. You can plug your USB drive with the OS into a USB port and boot into it to install the operating system.
Something went wrong!Well, you've made it this far and now something doesn't work. Isn't that always the way it goes?
The most common problem is probably that you pressed the power button and nothing happened. After all, if the thing that went wrong is that you broke something, you should just buy a new one.
If it's not booting, now it's time to start checking cables. Make sure that everything is plugged in securely, particularly the CPU cooler. Make sure that the PSU cables are plugged in at both ends. If there were any steps you weren't sure about, such as if you plugged something in in the right spot, revisit it.
If you just can't figure it out, come back here and ask for help.
Question @therichwoods --- I'm an extremely heavy user of Chrome. I'm talking dozens of tabs open at all times in multiple windows. I assume I'm going to want to maximize my RAM to take full advantage? Or is CPU/GPU also important in my case?
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Question @therichwoods --- I'm an extremely heavy user of Chrome. I'm talking dozens of tabs open at all times in multiple windows. I assume I'm going to want to maximize my RAM to take full advantage? Or is CPU/GPU also important in my case?
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TBH CPU is always important. But RAM should definitely be a priority.
Hi
Just upgraded my complete system from an AMD FX8350 with 32gb Ram to a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32gb ram. Currently using my old HD7870 Graphics cards in Crossfire but as these are now nine years old am looking to upgrade to a more recent card(s) bearing in mind that I am a pensioner and it has taken me a year to gather new, system, what would you recommend in Graphics cards for this build.
Motherboard is an MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max, Ram is Corsair DDR4 2666 4x8Gb. TIA
Stransky said:
Hi
Just upgraded my complete system from an AMD FX8350 with 32gb Ram to a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32gb ram. Currently using my old HD7870 Graphics cards in Crossfire but as these are now nine years old am looking to upgrade to a more recent card(s) bearing in mind that I am a pensioner and it has taken me a year to gather new, system, what would you recommend in Graphics cards for this build.
Motherboard is an MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max, Ram is Corsair DDR4 2666 4x8Gb. TIA
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That really depends what you want to do with your graphics card. Looking for a GTX1060/1660 might be a good idea, I had the latter one and you can play a lot of recent games in high settings with your ryzen.
Keep in mind buying a graphics card nowadays is REALLY expensive, even used ones, when you can get one. New ones are sold over the recommended manufacturer prices due to the mining scene and Corona!
Stransky said:
Hi
Just upgraded my complete system from an AMD FX8350 with 32gb Ram to a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32gb ram. Currently using my old HD7870 Graphics cards in Crossfire but as these are now nine years old am looking to upgrade to a more recent card(s) bearing in mind that I am a pensioner and it has taken me a year to gather new, system, what would you recommend in Graphics cards for this build.
Motherboard is an MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max, Ram is Corsair DDR4 2666 4x8Gb. TIA
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You should've opted for ram with xmp since ryzen benefit the most from faster ram. I'm currently using aorus 3200mhz 2x8gb kit with xmp enabled and it's better compared to it's stock settings.
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You should've opted for ram with xmp since ryzen benefit the most from faster ram. I'm currently using aorus 3200mhz 2x8gb kit with xmp enabled and it's better compared to it's stock settings.
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What's XMP?
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What's XMP?
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XMP (Extreme Memory Profiles) is a technology that allows you to change memory settings by selecting a different profile, which takes advantage of higher than standard memory speeds. Simply stated, XMP is the "easy button" of RAM overclocking, as manual RAM overclocking can be an unnecessary headache!
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RAM over 2400Mhz is overclocked. X.M.P is just a system to overclock your ram. It's standard now. Personally I wouldn't bother with anything over 3600Mhz as it gets too pricey for the performance. Go no lower than 2666, try for 3200 (this tends to be the cheaper one anyways). I believe you will need to enable X.M.P in your uefi when you install it otherwise you'll just be running 2400. Like Insanenity said, it's just a 1 click setup so there's no fuss.
If you're not focused on gaming; while 16GB is fine, if you find a 32GB kit in your budget than definitely get it. Get a fair CPU with over 6 cores. (so ryzen).
LTT just did a video on something that might interest you.
This could be a good option for your productivity build as it's bang for buck. But if you have the budget for R7 5000's than just go for that.
Tldr: Chrome is a ram and cpu whore, use firefox...
I'm kidding, invest in CPU and RAM more than others if chrome is your concern.
p.s. Feel free to ask questions
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That really depends what you want to do with your graphics card. Looking for a GTX1060/1660 might be a good idea, I had the latter one and you can play a lot of recent games in high settings with your ryzen.
Keep in mind buying a graphics card nowadays is REALLY expensive, even used ones, when you can get one. New ones are sold over the recommended manufacturer prices due to the mining scene and Corona!
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Thanks for the reply. Will just have to hang on to Current cards and hope prices drop in the near future on the GTX 1060/1660 cards. Too expensive for me ATM even second hand
Stransky said:
Thanks for the reply. Will just have to hang on to Current cards and hope prices drop in the near future on the GTX 1060/1660 cards. Too expensive for me ATM even second hand
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Yeah, unfortunately the prices are beyond the reality... If the bitcoin hype decreases, there might be a chance back to reality
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Yeah, unfortunately the prices are beyond the reality... If the bitcoin hype decreases, there might be a chance back to reality
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I just caught a news story headline that 30-Series cards will be available in stores, soon at reasonable prices soon - as BTC drops below 30K this morning....
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I just caught a news story headline that 30-Series cards will be available in stores, soon at reasonable prices soon - as BTC drops below 30K this morning....
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Luckily I got my 3060TI in 2020 for a low price, now it costs 50-80% more
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Luckily I got my 3060TI in 2020 for a low price, now it costs 50-80% more
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I looked and Best Buy has it for $399. Less than I paid for my 1080 2 years ago
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I looked and Best Buy has it for $399. Less than I paid for my 1080 2 years ago
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In stock for 399? Surely out of stock, otherwise it must be a mistake Sounds like the MSRP for the Founders Edition.
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In stock for 399? Surely out of stock, otherwise it must be a mistake Sounds like the MSRP for the Founders Edition.
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I'll go look again when I get a break, but I'm pretty sure you're correct about it being the founders edition
Hey, here are the specs of my current desktop. I bought it back in June 2018, and since only added more ram and an HDD, also most of my peripherals.
Specs :
CPU : Intel i5 8400
CPU cooler : Be quiet, I don't know what exactly
RAM : 16 GB Dual-Channel "DDR4 Ballistix" @ 1366MHz --> 2 at 2400MHz and 2 at 2666MHz each 4096 MB
Motherboard: ASUS TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING
GPU : 3071 MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB (EVGA)
Storage : - 232 GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250 GB (SATA (SSD))
- 931 GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA)
- 931 GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA)
Power supply : I don't know, but I remember it being good 500-650W, 80+Gold, I think.
I want it to be better, any ideas on what should I update first ?
Noe367 said:
Hey, here are the specs of my current desktop. I bought it back in June 2018, and since only added more ram and an HDD, also most of my peripherals.
Specs :
CPU : Intel i5 8400
CPU cooler : Be quiet, I don't know what exactly
RAM : 16 GB Dual-Channel "DDR4 Ballistix" @ 1366MHz --> 2 at 2400MHz and 2 at 2666MHz each 4096 MB
Motherboard: ASUS TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING
GPU : 3071 MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB (EVGA)
Storage : - 232 GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250 GB (SATA (SSD))
- 931 GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA)
- 931 GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA)
Power supply : I don't know, but I remember it being good 500-650W, 80+Gold, I think.
I want it to be better, any ideas on what should I update first ?
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That's not a bad system in any way! The question is, in which application should your PC be better? A game? Video rendering?
And What is your resulution of your monitor(s) where your GTX1060 has to deal with?
strongst said:
That's not a bad system in any way! The question is, in which application should your PC be better? A game? Video rendering?
And What is your resulution of your monitor(s) where your GTX1060 has to deal with?
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I mostly play game, but also use a lot of cpu in others programs, so the CPU is often at 100% because of the types of games and multitasking, the GPU is also often overused, but it can be changed by reducing in game graphics but a bit annoying. Also, I have two monitors, one 2560*1440 @ 144Hz and the other is 1920*1080 @ 75Hz. I know right now GPU are a bit expensive, but if I want to change CPU I will most probably have to change the motherboard too.
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I mostly play game, but also use a lot of cpu in others programs, so the CPU is often at 100% because of the types of games and multitasking, the GPU is also often overused, but it can be changed by reducing in game graphics but a bit annoying. Also, I have two monitors, one 2560*1440 @ 144Hz and the other is 1920*1080 @ 75Hz. I know right now GPU are a bit expensive, but if I want to change CPU I will most probably have to change the motherboard too.
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Yeah, the 1060 can't handle >1080p gaming at 144hz good, that's the main part you should update. You can check my Ryzen build here where I'm using similar resolutions for the monitors.
The 3060ti might be a good choice. I don't talk about the current prices at all, you know...
You can update to an i9-9900k which is ~30% faster than yours. But your processor isn't that bad, it might be more the lot of multiple tasks where you should think about more cores (10/16) in general
If you have more available bandwidth and ports consider adding more drives for the OS.
Depending on the Intel firmware there may be some interesting Raid options.
Explore your page file/drive options as well.
Just make sure to clone the OS drive for easy restore, clone before installing antivirus apps.
Keep the data off the OS drive, just apps.
Never clone data drives; copy only! Cloning media files can cause you to lose needed null marks.
strongst said:
Yeah, the 1060 can't handle >1080p gaming at 144hz good, that's the main part you should update. You can check my Ryzen build here where I'm using similar resolutions for the monitors.
The 3060ti might be a good choice. I don't talk about the current prices at all, you know...
You can update to an i9-9900k which is ~30% faster than yours. But your processor isn't that bad, it might be more the lot of multiple tasks where you should think about more cores (10/16) in general
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Thanks a lot ! Very useful
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If you have more available bandwidth and ports consider adding more drives for the OS.
Depending on the Intel firmware there may be some interesting Raid options.
Explore your page file/drive options as well.
Just make sure to clone the OS drive for easy restore, clone before installing antivirus apps.
Keep the data off the OS drive, just apps.
Never clone data drives; copy only! Cloning media files can cause you to lose needed null marks.
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I might buy a .m2 drive
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I might buy a .m2 drive
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I not up to date at all on the new mobos and drives... I run dinosaurs
ID your bottlenecks.
Research it thoroughly, even then it will be by trial and error.
Playing with the page file (maybe adding another fast dedicated drive) may yield good results with minimal expense/effort.
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I not up to date at all on the new mobos and drives... I run dinosaurs
ID your bottlenecks.
Research it thoroughly, even then it will be by trial and error.
Playing with the page file (maybe adding another fast dedicated drive) may yield good results with minimal expense/effort.
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Yeah, thanks !!
Noe367 said:
I mostly play game, but also use a lot of cpu in others programs, so the CPU is often at 100% because of the types of games and multitasking, the GPU is also often overused, but it can be changed by reducing in game graphics but a bit annoying. Also, I have two monitors, one 2560*1440 @ 144Hz and the other is 1920*1080 @ 75Hz. I know right now GPU are a bit expensive, but if I want to change CPU I will most probably have to change the motherboard too.
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Go for a mobo with all solid state caps and preferably no electrolytics which invariably fail with age.
Gigabyte has been making all solid state mobos for over a dozen years.
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Go for a mobo with all solid state caps and preferably no electrolytics which invariably fail with age.
Gigabyte has been making all solid state mobos for over a dozen years.
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Again, thank you, very helpful
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Again, thank you
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You're welcome.
Don't skip on the power supply*. Get the best you can find. A failed supply can be a real pain to troubleshoot.
Make sure it's minimum rated output supports your devices on that rail. Probably not an issue but be aware of it.
Most importantly make sure you have lots of head room on all the supply rails especially the lower voltage ones. Leave room for expansion.
Overrate by at least 20% of expected maximum surge demand for all rails.
Look closely at build quality. Does it look well built using epoxy PCBs and heavy wires?
A clean, neat layout?
Quality fans and excellent ventilation that conform to your case layout/venting needs?
Enough direct outputs to minimize preferably eliminate daisy chaining?
Long enough for the mobo and graphics card?
Note the exit point for cables, do they integrate well with your case design/layout?
Fun times
*a good case is a joy to work with and helps to protect your investment.
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You're welcome.
Don't skip on the power supply*. Get the best you can find. A failed supply can be a real pain to troubleshoot.
Make sure it's minimum rated output supports your devices on that rail. Probably not an issue but be aware of it.
Most importantly make sure you have lots of head room on all the supply rails especially the lower voltage ones. Leave room for expansion.
Overrate by at least 20% of expected maximum surge demand for all rails.
Look closely at build quality. Does it look well built using epoxy PCBs and heavy wires?
A clean, neat layout?
Quality fans and excellent ventilation that conform to your case layout/venting needs?
Enough direct outputs to minimize preferably eliminate daisy chaining?
Long enough for the mobo and graphics card?
Note the exit point for cables, do they integrate well with your case design/layout?
Fun times
*a good case is a joy to work with and helps to protect your investment.
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Awesome !
This beast or similar. The power supply goes on the bottom.
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First of all, I don't want to offend anybody that has commented their suggestions already, but in my opinion most of the replies are pretty lackluster to say the least.
Now, I saw you mentioned that you mostly play games on your PC. I'd say your CPU is still perfectly fine for most modem games, the GPU is another story though. While the standard 1060 is still a decent card, your version only has 3 GB of VRAM. This is becoming more and more of a problem in modern titles and you should consider upgrading, I'd say at least to a 6 GB 1060. Of course, the current market is awful and you shouldn't spend too much money on that old of a GPU, but if you can find one at a decent price, it might be worth a buy.
Other than that, your system is pretty well specced out in my opinion, you might want to sort out that RAM situation and get a matching kit of DDR4 at a decent clock speed, your description seems a bit all over the place in that regard. 16 GB of RAM is still perfectly fine, I wouldn't recommend a capacity upgrade, but matching sticks with matching speeds can do wonders.
Furthermore, I'd consider a bigger SSD, but your current storage configuration should provide enough space and as long as the OS is located on the SSD performance shouldn't be too bad either.
Finally, whatever you do, getting a 9900k, like somebody suggested, is a bad idea in my opinion. If you don't want to do any serious overclocking or have to do **very** CPU-intensive tasks, your 8400 should still hold up well. If you go for a 9900k you might as well build a new system because you're probably gonna need a new motherboard, CPU Cooler and definitely a GPU upgrade so the 9900k doesn't have to live in bottleneck hell. Incase you absolutely want to upgrade the CPU, I'd say go for an i7 of the 8th generation, as you'll be able to expect better performance than from your i5 thanks to multithreading while not having to upgrade any others parts mentioned above.
So, to conclude: You should upgrade your GPU. Go for something like the 6 GB 1060 or better. Search around on the internet for GPUs that work well with your processor. Maybe get some matching RAM. If you still have money to spend, a bigger SSD might make everything a bit snappier. I wouldn't consider upgrading the CPU.
And, a last final note: Make sure you don't exceed your PSU's wattage, definitely check before buying any upgrades.
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First of all, I don't want to offend anybody that has commented their suggestions already, but in my opinion most of the replies are pretty lackluster to say the least.
Now, I saw you mentioned that you mostly play games on your PC. I'd say your CPU is still perfectly fine for most modem games, the GPU is another story though. While the standard 1060 is still a decent card, your version only has 3 GB of VRAM. This is becoming more and more of a problem in modern titles and you should consider upgrading, I'd say at least to a 6 GB 1060. Of course, the current market is awful and you shouldn't spend too much money on that old of a GPU, but if you can find one at a decent price, it might be worth a buy.
Other than that, your system is pretty well specced out in my opinion, you might want to sort out that RAM situation and get a matching kit of DDR4 at a decent clock speed, your description seems a bit all over the place in that regard. 16 GB of RAM is still perfectly fine, I wouldn't recommend a capacity upgrade, but matching sticks with matching speeds can do wonders.
Furthermore, I'd consider a bigger SSD, but your current storage configuration should provide enough space and as long as the OS is located on the SSD performance shouldn't be too bad either.
Finally, whatever you do, getting a 9900k, like somebody suggested, is a bad idea in my opinion. If you don't want to do any serious overclocking or have to do **very** CPU-intensive tasks, your 8400 should still hold up well. If you go for a 9900k you might as well build a new system because you're probably gonna need a new motherboard, CPU Cooler and definitely a GPU upgrade so the 9900k doesn't have to live in bottleneck hell. Incase you absolutely want to upgrade the CPU, I'd say go for an i7 of the 8th generation, as you'll be able to expect better performance than from your i5 thanks to multithreading while not having to upgrade any others parts mentioned above.
So, to conclude: You should upgrade your GPU. Go for something like the 6 GB 1060 or better. Search around on the internet for GPUs that work well with your processor. Maybe get some matching RAM. If you still have money to spend, a bigger SSD might make everything a bit snappier. I wouldn't consider upgrading the CPU.
And, a last final note: Make sure you don't exceed your PSU's wattage, definitely check before buying any upgrades.
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Thanks, now I have the choice and many opinions to make my own choice
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This beast or similar. The power supply goes on the bottom.
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I have an In Win, this is fine for me, for the moment. Will also see that !
Noe367 said:
I have an In Win, this is fine for me, for the moment. Will also see that !
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It's a real clean layout. Power harnesses run behind a steel inner panel for better shielding, out of sight and out of the way.
Plenty of cooling with the ability to expand cooling if needed. It's solid and heavy.
Antec cases come with a parts manifest as well.
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It's a real clean layout. Power harnesses run behind a steel inner panel for better shielding, out of sight and out of the way.
Plenty of cooling with the ability to expand cooling if needed. It's solid and heavy.
Antec cases come with a parts manifest as well.
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Oh cool, will look into that when needed !
Noe367 said:
Hey, here are the specs of my current desktop. I bought it back in June 2018, and since only added more ram and an HDD, also most of my peripherals.
Specs :
CPU : Intel i5 8400
CPU cooler : Be quiet, I don't know what exactly
RAM : 16 GB Dual-Channel "DDR4 Ballistix" @ 1366MHz --> 2 at 2400MHz and 2 at 2666MHz each 4096 MB
Motherboard: ASUS TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING
GPU : 3071 MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3 GB (EVGA)
Storage : - 232 GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250 GB (SATA (SSD))
- 931 GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA)
- 931 GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA)
Power supply : I don't know, but I remember it being good 500-650W, 80+Gold, I think.
I want it to be better, any ideas on what should I update first ?
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gaming wise, GPU should be a priority
multi-tasking wise, buy the newest intel gen 10 or 11 also you can opt for AMD
Core i5 11th gen is a wise option
ryzen 5 3600 still good too
you'll need cpu and motherboard too