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Hi Folks:
Is anyone else having this problem?
New Info as of 16 July. Sound Still Skipping
Unfortunately, I'm still having sound file skips when the tablet is off.
I did some more Google research on this, and I found several instances with regard to phones having sound problems with skipping and popping sounds while playing. Nearly all of those seemed to be related to either headphone issues or the Bluetooth xceiver.
I originally though this problem was specific to Overdrive Media console, but it has also turned up in the Music app. I also installed a couple of other music/sound apps to see if it may be app specific, but all of them had the same consistent behavior of the sound file...pausing at random intervals....and then continuing after a few seconds when the screen...was turned off. The skips DO NOT happen when the screen is on.
Going through Erica Rene's thoughts I went into the Running Applications Manager and turned off several services I wasn't using, including Neo Player, 3d Gallery, Skype, and even Music. I initially thought that worked, but I was wrong. Same behavior.
This morning I did a factory reset. No change in behavior.
Since I just started using the tablet for audio books and podcasts I honestly don't know if this problem was there in 3.0. When I did the factory reset I thought the tablet might go back to 3.0, but I was wrong. I am still on build Acer_A500_4.010.08_COM_GEN2 after the factory reset.
There seems to be nothing wrong with my hardware that I can see. These skips happen with the headphones in or out. The only thing that triggers it is turning off the screen.
Insofar as software is concerned, I've not done anything more except rooting the tablet (which survived the factory reset process, which did surprise me! ). Beyond putting in another ROM - which, unless I can get some specific thoughts that it will fix the problem, given my experience level I'm a bit leery of doing - I can't see how software would fix it now.
Is anyone else seeing this???
Thanks!!!!
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I've searched Google and here on XDA for this and not found anything, so I'm hoping that someone can say something.
When I play a sound file on my A500, and then turn it off, the sound continuing to play is a very iffy thing. This works on my Nexus One phone, so I assumed it would work here. On my phone I start a sound file running (music, podcast, audio from an audio book or Google reader) and then I turn the phone "off" to conserve the battery, of course. The sound continues to play.
When I do the same thing on the A500 it is very rare that the sound continues to play. Sometimes it will stop as soon as I turn the tablet off, sometimes it will continue for several seconds and then stop, sometimes it will continue for several seconds and then pause for a couple of seconds and continue in this loop for the life of the file.
I originally thought that this was a specific issue with the audio books in the Overdrive Media Console program, but I've now encountered it with Google Reader and playing things through either Music or Rockplayer Lite.
Has anyone seen this yourself, or does anyone have any thoughts? Details on the tablet are below:
OS: AndroidOS 3.1
Build: Acer_A500_4.010.08_COM_GEN2
Rooted
Could be some of the apps not playing fair.
Do you have a task killer or any add on management app.they can cause this
Also in settings sounds.there is a check button to control this.
Also do not hit the back button on the apt this will kill it
I had Google music going off when I would hot the power buttonbtobturn off display and it was ina task killer ibaccidently installed something I had on USB drive for my cell.it had a setting to close all apps on display off or sleep.
Erica:
Thank you for your reply. Oddly enough, something along those lines may be it.
I've not modified my tablet much beyond rooting it. I've not uninstalled applications and don't have a custom ROM.
You mentioned that something might not be playing fair. I have no add on management application, nor any task killer I'm aware of. The Applications area of Settings has been doing what I need in that department fine for me. So I went in and looked at what services were running, and specifically turned off the services and programs I know I was not using: Skype, NemoPlayer, PhotoBrowser, Acer Sync. I then tried a sound file, turned off the tablet and it did continue to play steadily.
Now I guess I just have to figure out which program is the culprit, but it seems evident that one of them is.
Along those lines, perhaps you can answer something else for me: Those programs I mentioned above basically started running services on bootup. How do I stop that? I don't use NemoPlayer, for example, and so have no reason to have any service from it starting. I took a look at the Settings->Applications area and don't seem to see anything there that indicates what gets started upon bootup.
Thanks!
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I use titanium backup. It has a option to not only backup. But can freeze apps.Im not sure but you might need to have root for this feature.there are other apps on market to freeze them maybe someone can help by telling the app they use.just do not remove any apps Acer put on your tab.
You can get root easky look in Dev area
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My sound also cuts out when tablet goes to lock mode. I thought it was certain apps. Removed everything as far as widgets anything running in backround on home screen but I still have the same issue its random. Tried a clean wipe/install basic apps root explorer and still had it happen. I thought it might be a audio codec problem. In Honeycomb 3.0 I was able to play AVIs with AC3 in mobo and nemo player now I cant in 3.1.
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i have the probleme too with the sound when it goes to sleep when i stream webradio !
Just a thought, along similar lines when my screen is off sound will cut out after about 15 to 20 mins. I think for you as others have said you have something else that is causing the problem. For me I think it's just a system timer. Don't know how to fix it.
i have experienced a similar thing with some Roms I've tried and with them it was the built in overclocker that was the culprit. I had to change the profile in the overclocker to enable the playback while the screen was off. Same goes for overclocking apps such as setcpu.
I'm experiencing a skip with my email notification. I recorded a short notice (similar to you got mail) & it does a 5 second pause 1/2 way through. Didn't do it prior to 3.1
I'm trying to see if I have a bad Iconia. I've only read great things regarding the quality of the device. For the most part I agree.
Problem:
So I just I just bought an Acer Iconia on 6 days ago.
Just a couple days ago while listening to some music, I noticed clicking and popping during playback. Its not quiet either, the offending sound is louder than the music that is playing.
Workaround:
I have found if I want to stop the offending sound. If I play music in a different app, then the switch back to the first music app, the offending sound is gone. However, only a short time passes before I have to perform this task again.
Solution:
I'm considering exchanging the tablet for a new one.
Has anybody else experienced something like this?
Just after I first bought mine, my speakers would occasionally make a crackling sound, sometimes even when no audio was being played, it went away after a bout a week though, and hasn't happened again.
I exchanged the problematic with a new one. I've been listening to music all day without any issues. It appears I got a bad apple the first time. It happens.
UPDATE!!!
So here we are, 3 days worth of regular music playback and I just experienced the problem again. Just as the previous poster mentioned, I will wait until Wednesday next week to see if the problem clears up on its own.
Odd, perhaps this is a software issue?
So here we are, 3 days worth of regular music playback and I just experienced the problem again. Just as the previous poster mentioned, I will wait until Wednesday next week to see if the problem clears up on its own.
Odd, this is starting to sound like a software issue. I will report back soon.
I can pretty much guarantee that this is a software problem, as I didn't have any issues to this effect for months, but now have it happen all the time after either the most recent update or possibly the one immediately prior. I'm having all kinds of problems after this last update, including music playback stopping after the current track when the screen is turned off, the popping and clicking, slow to come back after sleeping, crashing of the browser and of the overall system... Hopefully we'll see another update that will get things back to normal very soon, because this is nuts.
I agree its a software issue. Here is what I've found:
1) I am unable to replicate this problem using other media players. One of the ROMS i was trying out had the toshiba media player, and i played hours of local music with no issues. The new android music player periodically pops and cracks regardless of whether i am playing local or streamed music via gmusic.
2) By simply pausing the current track, and resuming shortly after eliminates the sound issues. You may even need to unplug your headphones / line out if you are using that.
3) I subscribe to Rhapsody and have yet to experience the popping issue, even after continuous hours of streaming playback.
This is very likely a software issue, much like the random issue some HC users were experiencing with the browser spontaneously closing. Hard to track down, and hopefully fixed in some update that may or may not come
To me this sounds like...
I think more troubleshooting may be in order - have you been able to reproduce the problem with *any* mp3 file you use, or only from one specific set of mp3?
Default music player works great for me for any files I decide to throw at it. Sure, I still have to wake up the screen between tracks sometimes, but that is a known issue with the a500 - never get any strange popping - and my a500 literally plays tracks 4+ hours a day (I do a long commute to get to work lol)
Try reproducing the problem using a known good set of mp3 files - the fact that you have returned one unit and are still having the same problem means that chances are:
1) you have a bad set of audio files - other systems, especially desktop and laptop systems - may be able to decode the corrupted or unstandard file without issue - this does not mean the Iconia can do the same.
2) you installed a application that is causing issues - can you reproduce this problem after a full factory reset? Just reset, load your music, and try to reproduce the problem.
If you could attach a copy of the audio file that is causing this issue - perhaps people can take a look at it and see if you have a format issue.
orbix said:
I can pretty much guarantee that this is a software problem, as I didn't have any issues to this effect for months, but now have it happen all the time after either the most recent update or possibly the one immediately prior. I'm having all kinds of problems after this last update, including music playback stopping after the current track when the screen is turned off, the popping and clicking, slow to come back after sleeping, crashing of the browser and of the overall system... Hopefully we'll see another update that will get things back to normal very soon, because this is nuts.
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Music stopping between tracks while screen is asleep is a known issue - it's nothing unique to your experience.
Work around - use an alternative media player (in my experience winamp does not have this issue) or simply hit the power button between tracks to continue playback in the default media player. It's a pain in the ass, but it works.
Unfortunately, I've been using Google Music to deal with having a music library I want to access on my Galaxy S phone, Iconia, and work laptop, so unless I just download everything I want to listen to using the 'make available offline' feature and then listen to it in another app (which is a PITA), I guess I'm stuck with this. The 'pause and it goes away' bit hasn't worked for me, either.
As for the music stopping when the screen is off, I'm just frustrated by this since it was working fine for me before, and then Acer broke this with the update (at least for me- no guarantees it's specifically that update, but something about that update made this start happening for me).
Just got my Note 3 a few hours ago, on the drive home, I slapped in my microSD card from my other phone which had my music collection. Paired to my bluetooth stereo in my car and started playing my tunes. Im experiencing random stutters that last for half a second and it just continues playing. I also noticed theat watching video, thers random hiccups just like the stutter on bluetooth. Tried playing through the phones speakers, it happens too.
Is this normal? Should I have it replaced? Or are there tweaks that should be done?
TY
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Forgot to mention its a quadcore snapdragon version
ps. will rooting this break the knox fuse?
I've noticed similar stuttering when listening to music on my bluetooth headphones. It doesn't happen often and only lasts a second but it is regular and it is annoying.
Can't be a range thing, phone is in my breast pocket and the headphones are, obviously, on my head. Never had this issue with my Galaxy Nexus.
Good to know I'm not the only one. Might have to wait for a fix for it then.
Hope others can test this out too so maybe we can check if its a very isolated case and have our units replaced asap.
Note 3 Bluetooth Music streaming Stutter
I used 'Rocket Player' from Play Store instead of Samsung 'Music' or Google 'Play Music', the stutter seems to disappear.
I suspect is the .m4a music format.
let me know if this work for you too !
I tried Rocket player and the problem is still there, though Id like to believe that is much better compared to stock.
Video seems fine now as I blame the media that was playing that caused the stutter.
Can anyone who has rooted their phone, and removed the bloat, test it out if their bluetooth streaming stutters?
TY
I have the stutter too.
On top of that, it doesn't auto-connect to paired devices.
When I was with my S3, it would automatically connect to the car bluetooth without issue. The Note 3 doesn't connect automatically although told to do so. On top of that, it sometimes (randomly) only connects media audio and not media AND phone.
I usually have to tell it to connect several times until it finally does. The S3 didn't have any of these issues.
Seems bluetooth overall needs some fixes.
Yungfu said:
I tried Rocket player and the problem is still there, though Id like to believe that is much better compared to stock.
Video seems fine now as I blame the media that was playing that caused the stutter.
Can anyone who has rooted their phone, and removed the bloat, test it out if their bluetooth streaming stutters?
TY
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My device is rooted, and the bloatware are all removed.
I noticed that the bluetooth stutters even before and after rooting. My phone had been reset to factory once I have rooted to ensure a clean start.
Today i noticed something. When the screen is on, and you're doing something, there is no stutter. When the screen is off, the stutter starts. This is most likely the cpu. 300mhz isn't able to handle the music. I raised the minimum cpu frequency to 400mhz, and it was better. So basically, it could be down to the govenor or the cpu unable to handle the music at the minimum frequency. It could also be a bug.
I guess we'll have to wait for an official fix then. Thought rooting would have solved it.
I have this same issue since I upgraded from the S3 to the Note 3 using a Sony DSXS310BTX. Audio seems to cut off several times during the song. The song itself continues to play. Kind of aggravated to have this problem on a new device when it was not there on the previous.
Hi,did you update the latest Firmware?just released today.
I have the newest firmware and it still stutters. Any progress?
Same problem here, even with the new firmware. In addition right after a stutter there is a +/- 15% pitching of the streamed audio. Extremly unpleaseant on music playback.
But I found out, that for me this problem only excist if the phone screen is off.
I've noticed some issues having both bluetooth and wifi on at the same time. If I turn one off, the other works perfectly. Not cool, Samsung.
I do notice I get less stutter with WiFi turned off, but it is still there.
Damn, and I thought the Note 3 would be my next phone. This is a deal breaker, I spend all day with music playing from my current phone via bluetooth headphones.
I can confirm that by turning off all unnecessary services that the Bluetooth audio stuttering is gone. I had the exact same problems as the rest of you. When I got my S9005, the first thing I did was stream audio to my car's Bluetooth radio, and it was awful. Skipping/pausing/stuttering, the whole works.
I then set about disabling virtually every unnecessary app and service that came bundled with my GN3, and then went for a 3-hour car ride yesterday and streamed audio the whole time, and there was absolutely zero stuttering. Not even once. And I had WiFi enabled at the same time as well, and I never updated my firmware. So, that's the good news!
The bad news? Unfortunately, I don't know which app(s) or service(s) that I disabled eliminated the Bluetooth audio stuttering. It could be KNOX or the indexing service, or one of the various S apps, or maybe all of them, some of them, or something else. I just don't know. Your best bet would be to go through and start disabling the apps/services one by one (I also used Titanium Backup to disable some of the ones that are restricted) until you find out which one(s) are related to the Bluetooth audio stuttering.
2013 I'm guessing was jellybean?
Just updated my phone to lollipop 5.0 and get missing/stuttering/skipping.
Got it in kitkat 4.4.2 and thought lollipop should have fixed it?
It's not as bad but it's still as annoying as hell.
headset is BT 4.0,I have another headset that's 3.0 and I'm sure it doesn't happen with that headset(testing).
Phone is stock and unrooted and also waiting for the 5.1.1 update so I cannot alter the cpu which I heard was the problem?
But why no problem with my 3.0 headset?
It's also a bit weird,sat at my desk skipping doesn't seem to be that big a problem but when phone is in my pocket and I'm walking to work it's a problem?
phone to headset is the same distance apart.
It's like using an old mobile cd player,skip city.
Any known solutions or something?
I started to get the Bluetooth stuttering a few weeks ago, and it drove me nuts! I'm on lollipop, and even though my fix might not be the fix for you, the thing that did it for me was that stupid beam service that comes with our phones. I didn't even know about it until I factory reset, and went through each apk, one by one, until I fixed my issue.
delete:
/system/app/beamservice/beamservice.apk
and
the updated apk in /data/app/com.../....
(obviously you need root to do this...)
Hope this helps someone. I listen to music A LOT, and it made me so pissed that something as simple as streaming music couldn't even stream properly!
Spoke too soon. Rebooted and Google Services Framework updated and the stuttering came back. I removed every extra APK, totally debloated the system. It has to be something that Google updates because before Google Services/apps get updated, bluetooth is totally fine. After = stuttering.
I use bluetooth when listening to music in my car. Pandora is my music player of choice. The problem is that when Pandora plays over bluetooth, it skips. It's like the song pauses for a second and then comes back. This only happens on Pandora. Stock Music App, Apallo, Now Playing, Even Netflix all play fine over bluetooth. This SAME issue existed on my Galaxy S3 as well...
What I've tried:
Disabling Wifi
Disabling GPS
Rebooting (Just in case)
Wiped Device
I'm on the stock rooted rom. Any ideas?
TopHATTwaffle said:
I use bluetooth when listening to music in my car. Pandora is my music player of choice. The problem is that when Pandora plays over bluetooth, it skips. It's like the song pauses for a second and then comes back. This only happens on Pandora. Stock Music App, Apallo, Now Playing, Even Netflix all play fine over bluetooth. This SAME issue existed on my Galaxy S3 as well...
What I've tried:
Disabling Wifi
Disabling GPS
Rebooting (Just in case)
Wiped Device
I'm on the stock rooted rom. Any ideas?
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Ive had this issue on JB on all my android devices. I am running a 4.4 rom on my n7 2013 and it streams perfectly. BT stuttering has been a known issue since JB came out. It happens for me personally no matter what the media app is. Its the a2dp. Not much you can do about it user wise.
yakitori2 said:
Ive had this issue on JB on all my android devices. I am running a 4.4 rom on my n7 2013 and it streams perfectly. BT stuttering has been a known issue since JB came out. It happens for me personally no matter what the media app is. Its the a2dp. Not much you can do about it user wise.
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I had no issues with Pandora stuttering on my Note 2. I have no issues with podcasts (Pocketcasts app) stuttering on my Note 3, nor any issues with stock music player stuttering on Note 3. I DO have stuttering with Pandora on my Note 3.
So, no, it's not just a2dp, it's Pandora. And it would seem that it's Pandora on 4.3, while Pandora on 4.1 works fine. It's possible the track I tried in stock music player wasn't high enough bitrate (Pandora One set to HQ 192kbit) and that it's really an issue with high bitrate over a2dp on 4.3. I'll have to check with a few higher quality mp3s.
I noticed this first after flashing Beans' rom and running from that. I just restored to stock and will see if that fixes the situation, though from the original poster it sounds like this won't go away on stock.
bigillz said:
I had no issues with Pandora stuttering on my Note 2. I have no issues with podcasts (Pocketcasts app) stuttering on my Note 3, nor any issues with stock music player stuttering on Note 3. I DO have stuttering with Pandora on my Note 3.
So, no, it's not just a2dp, it's Pandora. And it would seem that it's Pandora on 4.3, while Pandora on 4.2 works fine. It's possible the track I tried in stock music player wasn't high enough bitrate (Pandora One set to HQ 192kbit) and that it's really an issue with high bitrate over a2dp on 4.3. I'll have to check with a few higher quality mp3s.
I noticed this first after flashing Beans' rom and running from that. I just restored to stock and will see if that fixes the situation, though from the original poster it sounds like this won't go away on stock.
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It IS a2dp. Maybe be specific to certain apps from but it IS a2dp. 4.3 didnt fix it...4.3.1 on aosp didnt fix it. You will get worse skipping if connected to wifi AND bluetooth simultaneously. It does it worse when the screen is off. To prove for you...the only way to get it to stop on my tablet was to go to developer settings and check stay awake on charger. Then plug into charger....stream all you want and it wont skip much at all...on pandora or any other app. All of my JB devices did it. People would always chime in saying "this doesnt happen to me...no probs here". Id be willing to bet money it DID happen and they didnt use streaming enough to experience it.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
4.4 fixed it btw.
yakitori2 said:
It IS a2dp. Maybe be specific to certain apps from but it IS a2dp. 4.3 didnt fix it...4.3.1 on aosp didnt fix it. You will get worse skipping if connected to wifi AND bluetooth simultaneously. It does it worse when the screen is off. To prove for you...the only way to get it to stop on my tablet was to go to developer settings and check stay awake on charger. Then plug into charger....stream all you want and it wont skip much at all...on pandora or any other app. All of my JB devices did it. People would always chime in saying "this doesnt happen to me...no probs here". Id be willing to bet money it DID happen and they didnt use streaming enough to experience it.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
4.4 fixed it btw.
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It's not just a2dp that is broken for everything. It may have to do with bitrate, I haven't tested enough. Some things, like streaming 128kbps mp3 or podcasts (96-128kb mp3) work fine with no stuttering. 192kbps Pandora One streaming hitches for a fraction of a second every minute or two.
In any case, since you found that keeping full power on fixed it, it's likely there's some other workaround possible to keep pandora at a priority that prevents whatever sleep case might be the cause. Have to dig around more.
bigillz said:
It's not just a2dp that is broken for everything. It may have to do with bitrate, I haven't tested enough. Some things, like streaming 128kbps mp3 or podcasts (96-128kb mp3) work fine with no stuttering. 192kbps Pandora One streaming hitches for a fraction of a second every minute or two.
In any case, since you found that keeping full power on fixed it, it's likely there's some other workaround possible to keep pandora at a priority that prevents whatever sleep case might be the cause. Have to dig around more.
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dig then. I dug forever. This ate at me so much that I nearly left android altogether. 3 releases and it stuttered on my Gnex...my nexus 7...my Galaxy S4 and now my note 3. None of the updates have fixed it. Its not just pandora for me...it does the same for Play music...and was doing it for netflix too. In my cars headunit...LG soundbar...Jawbone big jambox...all of them. All my android devices running JB did it. it was introduced with JB. 4.0.4 didnt do it. JB 4.1...bam....4.1.2...persist....4.2...4.2.1...4.2.2...4.3...4.3.1...all did the same accross all my devices.
I use a2dp streaming a LOT, so you can imaging how irritating it is to have all of your devices stutter while streaming.
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dig then. I dug forever. This ate at me so much that I nearly left android altogether. 3 releases and it stuttered on my Gnex...my nexus 7...my Galaxy S4 and now my note 3. None of the updates have fixed it. Its not just pandora for me...it does the same for Play music...and was doing it for netflix too. In my cars headunit...LG soundbar...Jawbone big jambox...all of them. All my android devices running JB did it. it was introduced with JB. 4.0.4 didnt do it. JB 4.1...bam....4.1.2...persist....4.2...4.2.1...4.2.2...4.3...4.3.1...all did the same accross all my devices.
I use a2dp streaming a LOT, so you can imaging how irritating it is to have all of your devices stutter while streaming.
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I using streaming a few hours a day as well. Fortunately only Pandora is having issues right now, and that was on a custom rom. Haven't tried since reverting. And I never had any stuttering issues at all on 4.1.x on Note 2.
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I using streaming a few hours a day as well. Fortunately only Pandora is having issues right now, and that was on a custom rom. Haven't tried since reverting. And I never had any stuttering issues at all on 4.1.x on Note 2.
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well lucky you. I have. Actually I should edit my above statement. It was introduced in 4.2.x....4.1 had no issues. Im sure it will be introduced on your note 2 whenever sammy finally gets around to updating their TW to 4.3 (which will be around the time 4.4 has rolled out to most devices lol)
Ive had the same problem that over 1k people have posted as a bug in code.google.com link above. (which I encourage you to read!)
I personally believe it was introduced with BLE.
The question was asked...I gave documentation of the problem from the source (google) and people still refuse to accept the answer. lol what can ya do. c'est la vie
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
akellar said:
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
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lol...key words..."not sure"
refer to source above
Skipping on pandora through headjack can be caused by data handoff...poor signal...all while high quality streaming is checked in settings.
It happens through my headphones occasionally in my gym...because signal doesnt penetrate the building well.
so what do we do now? Continue the..
1 I get stuttering
2. well I dont
3. Its still stuttering
4. mines not
5. every few seconds to minutes I get a stutter/blip in music
6. doesnt happen to me on xx phone
7 its happened to me on all my JB devices since 4.2...and not 4.1...nor 4.4...and theres a source bug site with thousands of complaints..same complaint....
8. My phone never did it....therefore it doesnt exist.
and........
yakitori2 said:
lol...key words..."not sure"
refer to source above
Skipping on pandora through headjack can be caused by data handoff...poor signal...all while high quality streaming is checked in settings.
It happens through my headphones occasionally in my gym...because signal doesnt penetrate the building well.
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Apparently reading isn't your strong suit but you are quick to attack. Signal is fine, full LTE. High quality isn't turned on. This isn't my first rodeo, let's relax with the know-it-all attitude.
akellar said:
Apparently reading isn't your strong suit but you are quick to attack. Signal is fine, full LTE. High quality isn't turned on. This isn't my first rodeo, let's relax with the know-it-all attitude.
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Thanks for ur contribution
yakitori2 said:
Dont be a hypocrit. I posted source site (googles bug report site above) and you have still not taken the time to read it. So dont start with the "reading isnt my strongsuit" crap when youve input 1 sentence lines. How hard is it to read a sentence? You said you dont have a problem with BT on your note 2. And that your phone does this thorugh the headphone jack.
What does that have to do with BT streaming.....which (yeah I double checked) is the title of the thread.
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I said nothing of the Note 2 working with BT. My post was in regards to getting skipping in Pandora with or without BT. Since you apparently have all the answers though I'll just sit back and wait for you to provide the solution.
I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
Yes yakitori2, android 4.3, A2DP streaming all day long, no issues whatsoever. Like I suspected, it had nothing to do with the A2DP stack.
You should also read this lovely news piece - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...2dp-audio-streaming-fix-for-the-next-release/ , where Google announced in January that the next release of 4.2 (loooong ago, which would be older than our 4.3) would include a fix for the A2DP problems.
Sorry you're still having problems. You should investigate more, very likely some other issue / software on your phone is causing the problem.
bigillz said:
I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
Yes yakitori2, android 4.3, A2DP streaming all day long, no issues whatsoever. Like I suspected, it had nothing to do with the A2DP stack.
You should also read this lovely news piece - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...2dp-audio-streaming-fix-for-the-next-release/ , where Google announced in January that the next release of 4.2 (loooong ago, which would be older than our 4.3) would include a fix for the A2DP problems.
Sorry you're still having problems. You should investigate more, very likely some other issue / software on your phone is causing the problem.
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Yeah..I knew 4.3 was supposed to fix the a2dp bug, but it didnt on my devices. However...they were all running custom roms...and possible had ad hosts as well....I had no idea that would cause anything. Ill would look into it, but Im on 4.4 and dont have any issues at all. so..
It is a2dp + other apps running in the background. Factory reset, install only pandora - no stuttering, install some apps, start them (fill up memory) and try play in pandora - stuttering could be up to 20 times a minute. (using pandora as an example, but it affects any audio players)
Also, the receiver is important too, some receivers handle these micro pauses gracefully to a point that it's barely noticeable, others stop for 1/2 seconds makes it impossible to listen.
To conclude, the stuttering occur mostly when memory is overloaded; and screen off makes it even worse. It looks to me BT gets very low priority on phones.
P.S.
I first noticed this issue on Note 2 running stock 4.1.2
akellar said:
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
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Same here! My Note 2 never skipped streaming Pandora over BT on any Android version.
I get it in both poweramp and Google music. I think someone once said it was cause of being rooted and the app doing some kind of validation check while playing. I forget how he said he stopped it. Maybe I'll try rootcloak module from xposed tonight on the way in with the music apps set in root cloak and see if they don't skip. Rootcloak hides root from whatever apps you tell it to.
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bigillz said:
I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
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THANK YOU!!!! This solved my Note 3 problems! I got a Pandora One subscription and noticed every time the screen went off the music would stutter. The quality of the music seemed a little nutsy... I could stream Google music and other music without a problem all day. But Pandora, no matter WHAT I did, it would stutter.
I did what you said above (running CleanRom) - and restored the host file.... BAM I'm playing with the screen off with high quality.
Thanks!
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I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
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glad to hear the 64kbps sounds "perfect" to you. wonder what the hell you were getting before?
"Audio Quality
Pandora on the Web plays 64k AAC+ for free listeners and 192kbps for Pandora One subscribers. All in-home devices play 128kbps audio, and mobile devices receive a variety of different rates depending on the capability of the device and the network they are on, but never more than 64k AAC+."
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/90985-audio-quality
hope you understand that pandora one plays at 64k on android
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BigMcGuire said:
THANK YOU!!!! This solved my Note 3 problems! I got a Pandora One subscription and noticed every time the screen went off the music would stutter. The quality of the music seemed a little nutsy... I could stream Google music and other music without a problem all day. But Pandora, no matter WHAT I did, it would stutter.
I did what you said above (running CleanRom) - and restored the host file.... BAM I'm playing with the screen off with high quality.
Thanks!
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64k is now high quality you say?
sorry, not meaning to be a ****, but just wonder if there's a way to hack this stupid app to get anything higher than 64k on android with my pandora one subscription (cause stock app only does 64, but pandora will do 192 with the desktop user agent in Dolphin browser).
So I guess I was spoiled with last version of android because for me with that last version, I could reasonably easily install android auto, have it start playing when I got into my truck, have it stop as soon as bluetooth disconnected etc. Predictable in other words.
Since the upgrade... bluetooth is... just bad. Selects one of many music apps at random apparently to open when I connect to bluetooth... And apparently likes to just sit and lag like 5 seconds before it realizes its no longer connected... so I have music blasting out of my phone when I get out of the car.
Removing all pairing information and resetting wireless connection info and re-pairing didnt resolve anything at all for me.
Any one else experiencing the same thing?
I had wacky issues with multiple 3rd party music apps (rocket player, amp) and found that only Samsung Music and Play Music were at all reliable when interoperating with my car via BT or my various BT headphones.
Same behavior KK/MM, haven't bothered trying the 3rd party stuff since getting N.
Currently I only have Play Music on my phone and it works fine in all use-cases.
So, I don't so much think it's the BT so much as it's the other apps and how well they do or do not integrate and behave with the system.
I"d advise paring your system down to one music player and testing and working up from there. PITA, to be sure.
I use power amp with no issues
I typically use Android auto and Pandora... But it's definitely considerably less predictable. I manually installed qa6 prior to being officially available. Is it possible that this could be the reasoning?
Earlier today turning off the car the music playing didn't ever stop when what I've noticed is I get like 5-10 seconds after car shuts off.
There have been issues with Bluetooth on some devices after the update. Sometimes a factory reset fixes the issue, but not always.
My Bluetooth has always been stupid when it comes to Android in general, I'll be last listening to Spotify and when I hop in my car my phone will start playing the last podcast I was listening too instead (even though that app was killed and not running anymore) or it will start up Play Music which I haven't used for days instead, sometimes it will connect right back to what I was last using but most of the time, even before this update, it would randomly pick some other app that streams over Bluetooth instead. Needless to say, I never had this happen with my iPhone when I had it, no idea why Android is so wonky when it comes to this stuff
I have no issues with BT and connect to about a half-dozen devices regularly including AA in my car. If you use Smart Switch or other method of restoring apps used by AA they won't work. You have to uninstall them and reinstall them manually. That isn't Nougat related it was the same way with Marshmallow. I learned the hard way when I went through two Note7's to end up with a S7 Edge.
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I typically use Android auto and Pandora... But it's definitely considerably less predictable. I manually installed qa6 prior to being officially available. Is it possible that this could be the reasoning?
Earlier today turning off the car the music playing didn't ever stop when what I've noticed is I get like 5-10 seconds after car shuts off.
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I use Spotify with Adroid Auto with no issues since getting N. I have connected to two BT 4.0 devices and a 4.1. As another poster mentioned, it could be the apps you are using, but I think it has more to do with qa6. If you manually updated, there is always a risk. I love hacking my phone, but there is always an accepted risk. Best bet is probably a factory reset and/or rolling back your update (if possible) to allow the automatic update take effect.
When I am talking in my truck via Blue Tooth since the update it will randomly drop the connection. It seems to work fine with my Earbud (PLT_E50) though.
the main issue I've seen... music playing does not stop when my head unit turns off anymore. Thinking the early released OTA nougat qa6 was what I was running and that may somehow be different than what att actually sent out, I fully wiped, reverted back to pk1, let it do the att upgrade to qa6.
This morning, I noticed the exact same thing... its pretty good about start playing when I get in the truck and it connects to bluetooth etc... it just doesnt turn off for a LONG time after blue tooth device is turned off.