Dual Whatsapp, 2nd account in secure folder? - Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers

Hi guys, happy new year. I had a quick question.
On the Samsung Galaxy S10+ running Stock Android 12, One UI 4.0, is it possible using Dual Messenger for the Whatsapp app to have 1 account running in Secure Folder?
I have 2 Whatsapp accounts, personal and work, but want the work account only to operate from the Secure Folder.
If this is possible can someone kindly explain to to enable this please?
Currently i have Dual Messenger enabled for Whatsapp and running 2 accounts on my device. Also i have Secure Folder enabled and set up.
Thank you very much.

Why do you even want it to operate from the secure folder? If you care about security then put a passcode on your whatsapp and file manager. Im pretty sure you can't do what you're trying to do, but I dont have much experience with newer samsung devices anyways, so maybe it's better to wait for more replies.
(The image below is 5years old and for an iPhone, but it still applies today as you can't find anythng online regarding moving the whatsapp media folder to another location)

Now that I think about it though, you might be able to root your phone and move the folder, but im not sure if it would move both account's data to a secure folder. Also, rooting your phone kinda defeats the purpose of a folder with security anyways. Also, if you manage to put the media for one account into a secure folder without affecting the other, whatsapp probably wouldnt be able to access the data anyways. Best bet is for you to put a passcode/pattern on your phone, or on your apps specifically using 3rd party software.

Is there a decent 3rd party whatsapp app? Any suggestions?

kuljit55 said:
Is there a decent 3rd party whatsapp app? Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally, I wouldn't take risks with malware, getting your account stolen or possibly violating TOS.

It is ok to install whatsapp in scure folder.

So far NO issue for past 1year+ having
Dual Whatsapp + 1 in secure folder + 1 Whatsapp Web = Total 4Acc
Sometimes moving around 4Acc in one time, with same speed.. With Out hanging
SAMSUNG_A50_ Android_¹¹
was trying to know can get Dual account in secure folder also.. any suggestion?

Related

Multiuser: anyone knows how to change game data from one user to another one?

Hi all
After updated to 4.2 I created new user for my wife.
"Installed" same games but they are 'new' for new user.
I want to copy data games files from my user to her user.
Anyone knows how to do it?
Need to be root?
Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Assuming they are free games, as paid ones will need to be purchased twice. You can use titanium backup to back them up on your account and then restore them into her account. You do need to be root for titanium though.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
dr.m0x said:
Assuming they are free games, as paid ones will need to be purchased twice. You can use titanium backup to back them up on your account and then restore them into her account. You do need to be root for titanium though.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry - misinformation.
Paid apps do not need to be purchased twice, or restored into her user ID. That would be a really bad idea anyway - you would have two copies of the app.
With root use file explorer to find your save file under /sdcard/o/...something. Copy that file to an identical file structure under /sdcard/1, or whatever number your second user uses.
Apps done the correct way for multi-user never download a second copy. The Play store just sets a link to them in the main user.
Assuming app is available to both:
adb backup/restore might work for unrooted. Me, I'd Titanium Backup if it was important.
On a slight tangent, is there a shared data area that I could put shared files and videos that each user account would be able to view? If so do I need root access? Thanks.
bertracoon said:
On a slight tangent, is there a shared data area that I could put shared files and videos that each user account would be able to view? If so do I need root access? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't forget a shared data area would mean the contents, like high scores, are shared between the users.
Most of the time, different users will want their own customizable data.
Technically, you need to purchase the app twice for two different account under playstore, that's the whole purpose of multiuser right?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Leechoonhwee said:
Technically, you need to purchase the app twice for two different account under playstore, that's the whole purpose of multiuser right?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Multi-user is not a developer enrichment scheme.
Your tablet has one owner, and apps are sold to that owner on an account basis - not by user or device ID.
The owner is able to make them available to any other users of that tablet without repurchase.
I suppose you would want an eye sensor, to make sure the person using the app is the one that paid for it?
No need to pay twice.just install twice.
Seems I need root.
I used some file explorer, find this:
/storage/emulated
/storage/sdcard0
/sdcard
All seems point to the same folders.
No sdcard1.
More than this, can't find data game. I have to explain that I have free games (from play store) and paid games (humble pack). If I search imaginarium game with Astro, no resulta found -.-'
Pd: No root at this moment, original 4.2 room
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Sorry - misinformation.
Paid apps do not need to be purchased twice, or restored into her user ID. That would be a really bad idea anyway - you would have two copies of the app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you clarify this, apps are linked to the gmail account they were purchased with no? I haven't tried multiuser yet but I thought I read from others you have to add the primary gmail account to any secondary account to access the bought apps. Is this not correct? And if it is correct, can one add it only to google play and not have a secondary account access the associated email?
sark666 said:
Can you clarify this, apps are linked to the gmail account they were purchased with no? I haven't tried multiuser yet but I thought I read from others you have to add the primary gmail account to any secondary account to access the bought apps. Is this not correct? And if it is correct, can one add it only to google play and not have a secondary account access the associated email?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Set up a secondary user. Secondary user needs a Google account. Create a new one if appropriate.
Open Google Play on the secondary user. Click Options, then Add Account. Add your primary account (the one that owns your apps).
You will be given a choice of items to synch - uncheck them all. All you want is app access.
Display your apps (they are now visible to you). Install the ones you want the secondary user to have. They will NOT download - this user just gets a link.
When done, you can delete the main account from this user - or just leave it
I am going to start cutting and pasting this description - I keep having to retype it...
rmm200 said:
Don't forget a shared data area would mean the contents, like high scores, are shared between the users.
Most of the time, different users will want their own customizable data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I appreciate that, I was just wondering whether there was a shared folder everyone could access as well as completely private areas for each user. Sounds as though there is absolutely no difference between multi user and having two completely separate tablets.
Well... Biggest difference is that only one copy of the app is shared by all the users.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
When done, you can delete the main account from this user - or just leave it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, but one more thing. If I leave it in google play do they have access to the associated gmail? I would prefer to just leave it for future apps and add a password for google wallet so they can't purchase things. Hmm, I guess though they can uninstall things that I wouldn't want uninstalled. I"m thinking of a kid mucking about where he shouldn't.
sark666 said:
Thanks, but one more thing. If I leave it in google play do they have access to the associated gmail? I would prefer to just leave it for future apps and add a password for google wallet so they can't purchase things. Hmm, I guess though they can uninstall things that I wouldn't want uninstalled. I"m thinking of a kid mucking about where he shouldn't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could try an 'app lock' app. i've tried 'app lock' on the play store which allows you to pin protect stuff like settings and install/uninstall and other apps - although couldn't lock gmail or certain system apps. But it should work for the play store. Maybe there are similar apps that allow you protect gmail.
rmm200 said:
They will NOT download - this user just gets a link.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it possible to move apps and its data from one user to another? To to so can I just uninstall app from first user? After that will this app and its data still be available for new user?
rmm200 said:
Set up a secondary user. Secondary user needs a Google account. Create a new one if appropriate.
Open Google Play on the secondary user. Click Options, then Add Account. Add your primary account (the one that owns your apps).
You will be given a choice of items to synch - uncheck them all. All you want is app access.
Display your apps (they are now visible to you). Install the ones you want the secondary user to have. They will NOT download - this user just gets a link.
When done, you can delete the main account from this user - or just leave it
I am going to start cutting and pasting this description - I keep having to retype it...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried to follow these instructions but a) I didn't get the sync message b) Play store doesn't display my bought apps in one place so it's not easy to find them and c) I have the feeling that it really double installs (I was hoping for a link).

[Q] Using a Nexus 4 without sending every private piece of info to Google

I got my N4 a couple of days ago. It's my first foray in the Android world.
The requirements that I am hoping to meet are pretty simple:
1) I want to be able to call contacts and send text messages
2) I don't want Google tracking my contact list
3) I don't want Google tracking my location
4) I don't want Google tracking my browsing history
5) I want to be able to use the Play store to download 3rd party apps. I didn't buy an N4 to use it it like a dumbphone. Logically, the Play store shouldn't require constant access to my contacts, location or browsing history.
I am making this post to get help meeting the above requirements. Despite seeming really basic, I'm running into trouble, and I think I will need frequent help. This thread can act as a journal that hopefully other people can follow.
What I did so far is immediately flashed the N4 to AOKP, and applied the OpenPDroid patches (though I've yet to use OPD). From a blank slate start, I declined to create an account, disabled location access, etc, during the startup wizard.
Adding a contact round 1
I was able to create a local, unsynced contact.
Using the Play store
I was forced to sign up for a gmail account, which is normal. I declined to "keep this phone backed up with my Google Account". I then went in Settings > Account and disabled sync for everything, including Contacts. I also disabled background sync in the power controls.
Adding a contact round 2
I am now unable to add a contact without being forced to sync it with my BS gmail account. When I click "Add Contact" in the phone app, a dialog says "Your contact will be synced with [email protected]" and my choices are either "OK", "Add other account", or to cancel out by clicking Back.
So I'm already stuck. Once a Play account is created, I am now unable to do something as basic as adding a contact without sending it to Google. Can someone tell me how to get past this obstacle?
That's how Google makes their money! Your only options are to either start using the amazon app store only or side loading apps if you don't want Google involvement. Good luck.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Why? Like they don't have all your information already? You freely give your information to everyone when you use the internet. Congratulations. You are not that special.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Eurotrash: always in this sort of discussions there's people like you who essentially advocate shutting up and taking it. "That's how things are" is not an acceptable solution to my problem, or I would not have made this post. There IS a way around the creeping, and someone knows it. My last resort is blocking every Google service from accessing the Internet except Play. I'm asking here because I'm hoping there's a less extreme solution that other people can use.
Gotzadroid: I will hold out for a better solution. Amazon appstore will likely be limited. Sideloading is not possible because many devs don't provide APKs
I know you can get an app to block individual permissions of other apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stericson.permissions
It requires root. Not sure about the contacts and other stuff you wanted to block, im assuming you've disabled location services.
Why not try flashing like cm10 and not flashing gapps so no Google apps? Then just manually downloading the apps apks and sideload the ones you need?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
MachinTrucChose said:
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As previously mentioned, try flashing a rom without gapps
OK, try this. Make a dummy gmail account for the play store only. Get all the apps you want and then sign out of gmail. Only sign back in when you want another app. That should keep Google from syncing all your info.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Michealtbh said:
As previously mentioned, try flashing a rom without gapps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Phone app is not a part of gapps. It came on the stock ROM before I flashed gapps on it. I didn't try it before adding gapps, are you saying it will change behavior and no longer prompt me to sync when I try to add a contact?
I gotta go to sleep, I'll do more tests tomorrow evening to test this (and wait for your reply to the above question in case you misread my posts).
If the answer to the above question is yes, this would immediately beg another question: how do I install 3rd party apps from Play without flashing gapps?
gotzaDroid said:
OK, try this. Make a dummy gmail account for the play store only. Get all the apps you want and then sign out of gmail. Only sign back in when you want another app. That should keep Google from syncing all your info.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I did in the OP (2nd bolded step). I created a dummy account cause Play requires it. That became my main Google account on this phone (since I declined to set up an account prior to that). That's the account Google tries to sync my contacts to when I try to add a contact.
I looked in the Gmail app, there's no way for me to sign out. All I can do is add more accounts.
A similar thread from the galaxy nexus forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589367
However, I'd also be interested in a deeper insight on why you're trying to do this. Fear of the big brother? Or just proving a point?
We know before buying an android phone that everything is tied to that Gmail address; now you want to cut that tie but maintain full functionality. Well, that probably doesn't work. And if it at the end does, why going through all that trouble? If a different platform offers all that then..
Why you bought an android phone in the first place? Just curious
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
You can try downloading or side loading the app "contacts+" then sign out of your dummy gmail account. You can get a sim to USB hub online and plug your sim into the hub and into PC to add contacts directly to sim. I don't know if there's a way to export contacts to sim anymore unless I'm guessing developers somehow add that feature. So look into CM or another well built ROM and ask some questions.
Good luck
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
MachinTrucChose said:
The Phone app is not a part of gapps. It came on the stock ROM before I flashed gapps on it. I didn't try it before adding gapps, are you saying it will change behavior and no longer prompt me to sync when I try to add a contact?
I gotta go to sleep, I'll do more tests tomorrow evening to test this (and wait for your reply to the above question in case you misread my posts).
If the answer to the above question is yes, this would immediately beg another question: how do I install 3rd party apps from Play without flashing gapps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stock rom comes with gapps already loaded.
Most custom roms come without them and they must be flashed separately. If you choose not to flash them you aren't even given an option to sign into your Google account at first boot, so there will obviously be no option to sync your contacts.
Your phone will be crippled and you'll have to find workarounds for many things. I don't think you'll be able to use Maps for example. To install apps you'll have to download and install the apks or use an alternative app market like SlideMe or Amazon
What's there to hide? They're just contacts
Sent from my Nexus 4
Google doesn't care what your Aunt Bertie's phone number is. All they use the data for is to customize ads for you, and if you're going to be seeing ads anyways they might as well be relevant to you.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
It's disappointing that the thread is taking the direction of Google advocacy rather than finding a technical solution to my problem, hopefully this post answers your questions and we can stop arguing about this.
Drakkula4 said:
You can try downloading or side loading the app "contacts+" then sign out of your dummy gmail account.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do I sign out of my dummy gmail account?
Vangelis13 said:
A similar thread from the galaxy nexus forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589367
However, I'd also be interested in a deeper insight on why you're trying to do this. Fear of the big brother? Or just proving a point?
We know before buying an android phone that everything is tied to that Gmail address; now you want to cut that tie but maintain full functionality. Well, that probably doesn't work. And if it at the end does, why going through all that trouble? If a different platform offers all that then..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, not full functionality. I can avoid using all gapps. The only required Google service is the Play store, which is the primary gateway to non-Google apps. I would use Email over Gmail, Navfree over Maps, etc.
The next paragraph is meant as a reply to the 5 posts essentially saying "tinfoil hat, trust Google!".
This is supposed to be an open phone, allowing the user to do what they want, compared to the big bad iOS. That's why I bought it. Now I find out Google is insisting on taking something extremely private (my social graph) even when I don't want to give it to them. I respect my friends' privacy, and I don't want an intersection of my online and offline lives being made by some 3rd party with intentions I don't trust. The insistence is starting to creep me out. You can provide convenience and still respect basic privacy, look at Mozilla with Firefox Sync: even they don't see the data you sync. I'm not even asking for that much, just respect my wish to draw the line at real-life stuff. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, this is the company banning people using pseudonyms on Google+.
The most disappointing thing in all this, is that you have 5000 custom ROMs being developed, which mainly differ in pointless GUI BS like scroll animation speed. Not a single one of those projects thought to provide a way to make the phone usable without giving up extremely private data. AFAIK only 3 guys are working on privacy stuff, and even those guys' patches and apps don't protect you from the Eye of Google.
chrisrozon said:
Google doesn't care what your Aunt Bertie's phone number is. All they use the data for is to customize ads for you, and if you're going to be seeing ads anyways they might as well be relevant to you.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What if I don't want tailored ads? Or what if I only want tailored ads by tracking the online activity I'm willing to submit to them, and I feel it should be my my right to draw a line? Many people are not comfortable seeing an intersection of online and real life activity. I am one of those people.
MachinTrucChose said:
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simple question deserves simple answer, only thing I can think of, go to settings > accounts > google > tap your account email address > and uncheck the things you don't want synced with google.
Hopefully it works and you will just have a local copy of everything then.
Again just flash like cyanogen mod since you have to flash gapps separate. Then don't flash gapps and your phone will have nothing to do with google.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Email encryption issue

My company has decided to implement some new policies. In order to access the Exchange Server from a cell phone, they want to set up to be an Admin of the phone, force a PIN and auto screen timeout and have access to remote wipe the device.
They also want to force the phone to be encrypted. That last part, I am not cool with. This is my device and I have had issues in the past with an encrypted phone, where it slows things down, and it makes it inconvenient when you want to copy files to and from the device, like pictures, videos, downloads and music... copying from the encrypted device to the PC, the files were unusable.
MY files, not theirs.
So on my Moto RazR HD, I remember rooting the phone and installing a modified .APK for the Exchange client, that let me set up my account, and when I got to the part that it demanded the device to be encrypted, it simply ignored it and tricked the server into thinking that it had already been done.
So my question is, can I root this phone, install a similar .apk, and then unroot the phone(they claim they will check to see if phones are rooted or jailbroken), and then set up my email account?
Anyone think of a way to accomplish this?
I don't need arguments on how I should obey policy and all that, so let's not go there. If it is get my phone encrypted and possible cause problems on a personal device that I paid $600 for, or not having email on it and inconveniencing others when they can't get ahold of me, I will not have email on the device.
But if I can keep it from encrypting, but keep all the other security in place(PIN, timeout and remote wipe), I am fine with that.
Can this be done today? Is there still a modified exchange.apk or whatever, or maybe another email client that is simple, close to the stock on in look and feel, but won't force the encryption policy?

Any way to truly deactivate or get rid of BB Hub?

Hi there,
from the moment I got my Priv about for months ago, I deactivated all of the BB apps and Bloatware (like Yahoo Finances) because I just don't need them. Sadly, you can't just uninstall them, so deactivating is the only way.
Just recently I discovered that despite being deactivated, BB Hub still had some permissions (maybe this was changed by the last OS update?) so I revoked them. Now BB Hub (which shouldn't be doing anything since it's deactivated) constantly sits in the notification bar and asks for permissions. I can't even edit or add new contacts without the BB Hub popping up on fullscreen and asking me to grant it permissions. But I don't want to.
Not only is the BB Hub superflous for me - I use Contacts+, don't use the FB app (only in the browser), have only one email-adress (and if I had more, I would integrate them into my gmail inbox) and I surely don't want to have those annoying Whatsapp messages in the same place where my SMS, calls and emails etc are.
I also don't trust BB and don't want to give them access to my contacts, calendar, messages or location. Why does the Hub need location data anyway? And why is the BB Hub so invasive that it even controls the standard Android contacts app?
This is so annoying! I just wish I could root my phone and install CM or any other AOSP-based ROM. But I can't. So the next best thing would be to get rid or at least truly deactivate apps like BB Hub. Does anyone know a way to achieve this?
Would it maybe be possible to get temp-root access and just delete the BB Hub file from the system folder?
Any help would be much appreciated, so thanks in advance!
EDIT: Okay never mind, I've found the culprit! Blackberry Services was active and had permissions. I deactivated it (again) and revoked the permissions and now the annoying pop-up is gone! The OTA update reactivated the BB Services (just as it had reactivated all other pre-installed apps). Guess I overlooked it after the last update.
Maybe some admin can just delete this thread. Or leave it there for others in the future who might encounter the same problem. Whatever's best.
Does your PRIV becomes smoother and less lag after deactivate all of them ? And will they reactivated back after a reboot ? Because my thoughts on Disabling apps, it will run as usual after a reboot.

Oreo callendar question.

Hello,
I would like to ask - how to disable build in calendar ? It's so annoying when I get 2 notifications (one from Google calendar and one from build in). In application settings you can't disable it totally even you can't disable notifications. When you disable account sync in build in it automatically turns off sync in Google calendar.
Anyone advice ?
PS. Stock Oreo, no root, no unlocked.
I turned off all the oreo stock calendar permissions and use google calendar instead. Works ok, no extra notifications so far. Could probably remove the calendar app with ADB if necessary. I did that with a bunch of stock apps in Nougat.
A better way would be to root the phone and delete/freeze it with Titanium Backup. But I'm a root kind of guy so that's just me. I cant imagine having an unrooted phone.
AnonVendetta said:
A better way would be to root the phone and delete/freeze it with Titanium Backup. But I'm a root kind of guy so that's just me. I cant imagine having an unrooted phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some of us want a secure device for work use
I have mine on dual sims and run microsoft intune portal for work mode. No root for my A7, also use it for Google Pay and online banking.
If I just used it to call my buddies and watch porn them I'd probably look at rooting it

Categories

Resources