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[SOLVED] How to use Steering Wheel Controls (SWC) with Zlink/Zbox/Spotify/Apple Music

[SOLUTION]
This integration is not present on most head units so I wrote a Xposed module which hooks the proprietary button press handling methods and translates them into standard HID keypresses. This means that SWC will work with Zlink/Zbox and it will also work with other apps on the head unit such as Spotify and Apple Music.
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79312591&postcount=56 for the first release and follow the thread for later releases.
Note that there are two types of releases, final and debug releases. Final releases do not display and debug information via toast messages on the screen. Debug releases display button press information via toast messages on the screen which allow users to collect this information and submit it on this thread so that it can be integrated into the module and their buttons can be supported.
[ORIGINAL PROBLEM]
Hi all,
I recently just picked up a Witson W2-W329 unit. Basically it's a PX5 unit with the following OS Build and firmware:
CPU: ARM Cortex-A53 eight-core 2+32 GB PX5; CPU: PowerVR G6110
Build: PX5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.bsp.20180528.174007 test-keys
MCU: 2018-04-16 17:04:06 ZHAN_(NOR)__90_C9RD6686_CAN(A)PX5D1804160
After some fiddling with USB ports I managed to get CarPlay working and to be honest the interface makes the unit feel premium vs the standard bluetooth audio interface. I'd love to use it over the standard interface BUT.... steering wheel controls don't work.
I've got it installed into a Renault Koleos which has a CANBus box. So here is my question...
Has anyone else used CarPlay on a PX5 unit and been able to use their steering wheel controls with it?
It would seem as if the OS just has to push the commands through to the app via some sort of an API. The kind of integration you would expect...

Are you using the zlink app for Carplay or do you have a dongle?

vassandrei said:
Are you using the zlink app for Carplay or do you have a dongle?
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Zlink. What Witson unit do you have? Is it PX5 and running CAN? Do you know if the SoM is made by FYT?

looxonline said:
Hi all,
I recently just picked up a Witson W2-W329 unit. Basically it's a PX5 unit with the following OS Build and firmware:
CPU: ARM Cortex-A53 eight-core 2+32 GB PX5; CPU: PowerVR G6110
Build: PX5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.bsp.20180528.174007 test-keys
MCU: 2018-04-16 17:04:06 ZHAN_(NOR)__90_C9RD6686_CAN(A)PX5D1804160
After some fiddling with USB ports I managed to get CarPlay working and to be honest the interface makes the unit feel premium vs the standard bluetooth audio interface. I'd love to use it over the standard interface BUT.... steering wheel controls don't work.
I've got it installed into a Renault Koleos which has a CANBus box but I've looked at the wiring diagram of the car and I'm sure that the steering wheel controls are wired directly and not through CAN.
So here is my question...
Has anyone else used CarPlay on a PX5 unit and been able to use their steering wheel controls with it?
It would seem as if the OS just has to push the commands through to the app via some sort of an API. The kind of integration you would expect...
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I have the same problem, also with can bus with a w2 w207 wiston device for my peugeot 207
joying has similar looking mcu names
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and has also firmware for my car, with can bus and the same px5, screen res & ram. (maybe also for your car)
what is different is that i have a built in dvd drive and the joying unit does not.
1. Is it a bad idea to try this firmware? joying has a newer firmware
2. is it possible to revert to the preinstalled firmware if it does not work properly (backup)?

Zaagfluit said:
I have the same problem, also with can bus with a w2 w207 wiston device for my peugeot 207
joying has similar looking mcu names
and has also firmware for my car, with can bus and the same px5, screen res & ram. (maybe also for your car)
what is different is that i have a built in dvd drive and the joying unit does not.
1. Is it a bad idea to try this firmware? joying has a newer firmware
2. is it possible to revert to the preinstalled firmware if it does not work properly (backup)?
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A few thoughts:
Some weeks ago the user @walkin123 tried the same thing. He installed the latest Joying FW onto his Seicane unit. The unit accepted the firmware but knew that it was not a joying unit (they must have some sort of a handshake with the MCU) and therefore displayed a banner at the top of the screen indicating that the FW does not match the MCU. Even though his FW supported CAN it seems that it does not support all of the vehicles that the Seicane FW did and so he was unable to select his particular vehicle from the Android system. Even though Android does not perform the CAN decoding it seems as if it configures the MCU and possibly the CAN box as to what vehicle to decode for and without the option to select his vehicle he lost all CAN inputs including steering wheel commands. On the plus side the FW solved all of the other bugs that he was experiencing.
Another possible problem is that while the MCUs and the interconnections within the units are similar they are not identical. For instance they seem to use different radio tuner modules which the MCU controls via I2C/I2S. You may lose radio functionality if the different modules are not protocol compatible but you may be OK if they are.
Regarding the backup and restore option, this is something that I have been investigating for the last week. I believe that it should be simple to make a backup of the /system /restore /data and /misc partitions so that an Android restore should be possible. Whether or not the unit will allow you to force an older ROM over a newer ROM is something that I am unsure of. @surfer63 or another experienced member would be able to help you there. In the case of the MCU I also believe it is simple to extract the img but once again I am unsure of how simple it would be to write it back over whatever you install.
Perhaps @surfer63 or one of the more experienced guys could comment on this.

Ok, thnx for the explanation!
I'll probably wait/hunt for a more suitable firmware then.
I think the swc function for the zlink app is just something they forgot to implement, all other stock apps do have swc, so a small update would fix it.
I also noticed that the zlink software in my unit is 2.X. The latest from zjinnova is 4.X.

Zaagfluit said:
Ok, thnx for the explanation!
I'll probably wait/hunt for a more suitable firmware then.
I think the swc function for the zlink app is just something they forgot to implement, all other stock apps do have swc, so a small update would fix it.
I also noticed that the zlink software in my unit is 2.X. The latest from zjinnova is 4.X.
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All the best getting firmware out of Witson. I think you would be the first person I have hear of as being successful in doing so. They have literally zero support. I would never suggest buying from them unless you absolutely have to. Joying support is FAR better.

looxonline said:
All the best getting firmware out of Witson. I think you would be the first person I have hear of as being successful in doing so. They have literally zero support. I would never suggest buying from them unless you absolutely have to. Joying support is FAR better.
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I'm afraid you're right. i think i will try some retailers selling "s200" devices that claim they provide software updates.

Somone on this forum has extracted an updated version of the zlink apk from a joying firmware with build in carplay support. Could this solve the steering wheel problems? Is it possible to run the 2 apk’s with different version numbers side by side?

Zaagfluit said:
Somone on this forum has extracted an updated version of the zlink apk from a joying firmware with build in carplay support. Could this solve the steering wheel problems? Is it possible to run the 2 apk’s with different version numbers side by side?
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Just be sure you are not mixing the zBox APK with the zLink APK. If you did find an updated zLink APK I'd be interested to know where. I would like to give it a test.

looxonline said:
Just be sure you are not mixing the zBox APK with the zLink APK. If you did find an updated zLink APK I'd be interested to know where. I would like to give it a test.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ction-joying-unit-android-auto-t3791200/page3
Its on this page, the apk is included in reply #25. They try to use it in a unit without the carplay function built in
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looxonline said:
All the best getting firmware out of Witson. I think you would be the first person I have hear of as being successful in doing so. They have literally zero support. I would never suggest buying from them unless you absolutely have to. Joying support is FAR better.
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On this site there are people who do get newer versions of certain s200 wxxx mcu’s from witson, So if a new version is released you will probably find it there first.
https://www.roadnav.com

Zaagfluit said:
I'm afraid you're right. i think i will try some retailers selling "s200" devices that claim they provide software updates.
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Sweet mother of pearl.......WITSON just contacted me with a firmware update dated 02.08.2018. After weeks and weeks of absolutely no feedback whatsoever they just dropped this one....
Will install it this weekend and see if it fixes the issue.

looxonline said:
Sweet mother of pearl.......WITSON just contacted me with a firmware update dated 02.08.2018. After weeks and weeks of absolutely no feedback whatsoever they just dropped this one....
Will install it this weekend and see if it fixes the issue.
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Nice!, Thats fresh from the oven. Is it specific for your car?:angel:

It's labelled as specific in the filename but when you scan through the MCU folder it has a list of compatibly radio and CAN configurations that seems to cover everything that they sell.

looxonline said:
It's labelled as specific in the filename but when you scan through the MCU folder it has a list of compatibly radio and CAN configurations that seems to cover everything that they sell.
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Sounds promising:good:
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Zaagfluit said:
Sounds promising:good:
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Ohh yeah...I got it too!

Zaagfluit said:
Sounds promising:good:
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Ohh yeah...I got it too!
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Dig through the archive and check what dates the files were modified on. Looks like they labelled it 02.08.2018 but to be honest there is not much in there that was modified after April.

looxonline said:
Dig through the archive and check what dates the files were modified on. Looks like they labelled it 02.08.2018 but to be honest there is not much in there that was modified after April.
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I’ve installed it, and it is EXACTLY the same mcu number (same date, same time, same everything) as you described in the beginning of this topic. Nothing changed, zlink app still on 2.4

Zaagfluit said:
I’ve installed it, and it is EXACTLY the same mcu number (same date, same time, same everything) as you described in the beginning of this topic. Nothing changed, zlink app still on 2.4
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Exactly my point. Did you check the android build details and are they also the same?
Joying actually make improvements based on the problems that the customer is experiencing. WITSON stick their head in the sand and hope that the problem will disappear. I'm planning on doing a youtube review to show how poor the service is and how many bugs the unit has just to try and help other people. To be fair I will probably give it another month to see if they are actually interested in working on new firmware.

looxonline said:
Exactly my point. Did you check the android build details and are they also the same?
Joying actually make improvements based on the problems that the customer is experiencing. WITSON stick their head in the sand and hope that the problem will disappear. I'm planning on doing a youtube review to show how poor the service is and how many bugs the unit has just to try and help other people. To be fair I will probably give it another month to see if they are actually interested in working on new firmware.
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I did not check the Android build yet. A youtube review might be usefull, also for witson to see how they are screwing things up. I hope there will be custom/alternative roms available in the future, since it uses the same hardware as many other brands. I will try The zlink apk from Joying this weekend to see if it changes anything.

Zaagfluit said:
I did not check the Android build yet. A youtube review might be usefull, also for witson to see how they are screwing things up. I hope there will be custom/alternative roms available in the future, since it uses the same hardware as many other brands. I will try The zlink apk from Joying this weekend to see if it changes anything.
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I know that gtxaspec is working on a custom ROM for FYT based PX5 units. He fried his FYT SoM though so I think he needs more time to get another. When that is ready it should be compatible with our units provided it does not touch the MCU. That being said I am not too familiar with all of the interfaces between SoM and motherboard and whether there are major differences in implementation between the two resellers. Could be that the Joying ROM (which gtxaspec) is basing his off does not have support for the CAN vehicles that we need...anyway we will see with time.
Let us know how the new zlink app works out.

Extremely Weird Radio Issue on Funrover Head Unit

Hi all,
I've bought this unit for my Mazda CX-7 and had it professionally installed - it ran fine for a while and I was very happy with it.
A rather weird issue developed - on this unit the FM radio starts automatically when you turn on the ignition (there doesn't seem to be a way around this) and when the Radio App is running, I can hear the radio fine, and if I start another app such as Google Maps as long as the radio is running I can hear sounds normally. However if I manually exit the radio or if an app takes over audio (say Spotify for instance) the head unit goes completely silent, only to be revived again when I reload the Radio app. This of course makes the head unit useless for music and bluetooth as as soon as any of these apps are loaded the unit goes silent.
On the manufacturer's advice I reset the CANBUS settings and verified with them that the CANBUS was set right for my make and model of car - still the same result. Tried all CANBUS settings that even mentioned Mazda, no luck.
I really don't know how to start trouble shooting this - I have been provided four different firmwares by the manufacturer all of which exhibit the same issue which indicates to me it may be an underlying hardware issue?
Just a quick dump from my 'About Device' if that assists at all. Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated, any relevant logs or files will be quickly gathered and posted
Android Version
8.0
CPU Info
CPU: Intel ATOM 4QuadCore(x86), GPU4D Mali 450 MP4, X86
Baseband version
SF3GR_M-26.3_cpeg_rk-r2p_bc2-20160629_111639
System Info
APP 1024x600 2018-06-06 22:50:08
MCU Version
2018-06-02 12:16:25 FAD_(R76)_90_D1_V1.0_CAN(All)_AMP
CAN Version
Unknown
Car Application
Car Application Information
Serial number
00000000

carburngood said:
A rather weird issue developed - on this unit the FM radio starts automatically when you turn on the ignition (there doesn't seem to be a way around this) and when the Radio App is running, I can hear the radio fine, and if I start another app such as Google Maps as long as the radio is running I can hear sounds normally. However if I manually exit the radio or if an app takes over audio (say Spotify for instance) the head unit goes completely silent, only to be revived again when I reload the Radio app. This of course makes the head unit useless for music and bluetooth as as soon as any of these apps are loaded the unit goes silent.
On the manufacturer's advice I reset the CANBUS settings and verified with them that the CANBUS was set right for my make and model of car - still the same result. Tried all CANBUS settings that even mentioned Mazda, no luck.
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That the radio starts on these units on reboot can't be changed. It is a hardware "feature". The radio chip and AMP-chip are "awake" before Android is even running. That is why you hear the radio after cold boot. And for your convenience the radio app is also started, but that is only a front-end that allows you to either enjoy and control the radio(-chip) or switch it off.
I don't think the CAN-bus has anything to do with this behavior, but I can be wrong.
I think that when you switch off the radio, also the AMP is switched off, or maybe even disabled.
If you switch off the radio, can you check in your Settings whether the AMP is still enabled? And maybe play/try a few things?

surfer63 said:
That the radio starts on these units on reboot can't be changed. It is a hardware "feature". The radio chip and AMP-chip are "awake" before Android is even running. That is why you hear the radio after cold boot. And for your convenience the radio app is also started, but that is only a front-end that allows you to either enjoy and control the radio(-chip) or switch it off.
I don't think the CAN-bus has anything to do with this behavior, but I can be wrong.
I think that when you switch off the radio, also the AMP is switched off, or maybe even disabled.
If you switch off the radio, can you check in your Settings whether the AMP is still enabled? And maybe play/try a few things?
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The amp is still enabled in the car settings app if that's what you mean? Or are you thinking more on the hardware side?

carburngood said:
The amp is still enabled in the car settings app if that's what you mean? Or are you thinking more on the hardware side?
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What I meant is if you switch Amp off (no Amp) and then back to the value it had, and then try spotify or whatever.
Just a guess.

surfer63 said:
What I meant is if you switch Amp off (no Amp) and then back to the value it had, and then try spotify or whatever.
Just a guess.
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Thanks, gave that a go but no luck any other thoughts ?

Anyone else? Any logs or anything I can provide that may be useful?

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Last time
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Is the manufacturer not willing to replace it?

No they're not

I have the same problem. The radio worked without any problem until I made the factory reset ( wifi wont work ) and from then on I have only the sound from fm radio app.

Hi there, changing this setting worked for me - for me I had to choose RZC and RZC.AMP but try a few MCU upgrades in this setting and see what works for your vehicle.
I also found the Funrover guys to be very communicative so try contacting them directly - as part of the trouble shooting process they provided me a couple of firmware updates - including putting one together especially for me based on the issues I was experiencing.
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it does not work with me. I tried all the mcu options, I updated device using the software drovided by funrower, there is still no sound via mp3, bluetooth or video, only radio. MCU i think seted correctly because I have working steering wheel controls or mazda additional display... any other suggestions ??

Did you try all the MCU options with Mazda listed? I had to play around with a few and only RZC worked for me. If none of them work contact Funrover for their latest firmware and try the various Mazda MCU options.

New Funrover firmware ?
carburngood said:
Did you try all the MCU options with Mazda listed? I had to play around with a few and only RZC worked for me. If none of them work contact Funrover for their latest firmware and try the various Mazda MCU options.
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The CANBUS doesn't work correctly in a recent Funrover Android 8.1 installed in an Honda Accord 7 (recent firmware). I have test several type of CANBUS and there is nothing to do. On the other hand, I have read in another thread that there is identical issue with a Seicane Android 8.0 and a similar Honda car. Perhaps it is a problem related to Android 8.x version. I wait for a response from Funrover but I don't expect much.

carburngood said:
I also found the Funrover guys to be very communicative so try contacting them directly - as part of the trouble shooting process they provided me a couple of firmware updates - including putting one together especially for me based on the issues I was experiencing.
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Could you please share how to contact these guys? Is there a support email or something?

Hi all
Android 9.0 is out
Any of you installed latest firmware?
I have this head unit with android 8.0 for my kia sportage 2018
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4cTppPHW

https://yadi.sk/d/UifaCXkWMhFmMg

Pacovich said:
New Funrover firmware ?
The CANBUS doesn't work correctly in a recent Funrover Android 8.1 installed in an Honda Accord 7 (recent firmware). I have test several type of CANBUS and there is nothing to do. On the other hand, I have read in another thread that there is identical issue with a Seicane Android 8.0 and a similar Honda car. Perhaps it is a problem related to Android 8.x version. I wait for a response from Funrover but I don't expect much.
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After that, I have selected XP - Toyota - RAV4 - xxxx16xxxx in my Accord 7 Executive and it works almost completely. State of buttons with LED inside are not shown or shown inverted in the emergent screen. Thus, If a button has LED, I observe its state, but, when a button hasn't a LED, I observe its state on the emergent screen. It's a little yam but it's the only solution I have found with this unit.
On the other hand, I have selected a vehicle in the "China" subgroup and the screen has begin to shown many a many CANBUS codes on the screen. It seems to be a debug option. But unfortunately, I hasn't been able to repeat the sequence in order to activate this mode another time. It ocurred a day when I have tested all vehicle models and I have selected them very quickly.

Pacovich said:
After that, I have selected XP - Toyota - RAV4 - xxxx16xxxx in my Accord 7 Executive and it works almost completely. State of buttons with LED inside are not shown or shown inverted in the emergent screen. Thus, If a button has LED, I observe its state, but, when a button hasn't a LED, I observe its state on the emergent screen. It's a little yam but it's the only solution I have found with this unit.
On the other hand, I have selected a vehicle in the "China" subgroup and the screen has begin to shown many a many CANBUS codes on the screen. It seems to be a debug option. But unfortunately, I hasn't been able to repeat the sequence in order to activate this mode another time. It ocurred a day when I have tested all vehicle models and I have selected them very quickly.
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After updating to Android 9.0, I have selected Honda Accord 7 and its emerging screen works fine. It seems that update solves the issue.
Android 9.0 firmware for funrover head unit
Hi all, I purchased this head unit with android 8.0 for my kia sportage 2018 https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4cTppPHW I need to know if i can update it to android 9.0 firmware. Best regards to all
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Need help pairing bluetooth ELM327 OBD2 scanner with Acodo 9" Android Head-Unit

I have a China 9" android head-unit which is branded as Acodo.
Everytime I try to pair a bluetooth ELM327 v1.5 or v2.1 OBD2 Scanner, it fails to pair with the following error message:
Couldn't pair with OBDII because of an incorrect PIN or passkey.
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I think the above error message is due to the OBDII device having a pin of 1234. Unfortunately, there is no setting within the Android head unit which allows the setting of pin.
I have tried to use the app named Bluetooth Pair. Within the app, I tried setting the PIN to 1234 and tried connecting but it results with the same error message:
Couldn't pair with OBDII because of an incorrect PIN or passkey.
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Is there any third party apk I can use to pair my bluetooth ELM327 OBD2 scanner to my android headunit? Or perhaps any instructions on how to make this work?
Here's some info inside Settings->About Car Engine
Basic information
Platform information: ac8227l
VID: JCAC10003-OA1-20412011210
Device No: MJSCHENVLNS*****
Store information
Internal storage In total: 32 GB
RAM In total: 2 GB
hardware information
Positioning: GPS+AGPS
CPU: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l)
Storage:2GB + 32 GB
Sound processor: MT6323L
Bluetooth information:MT6625L
System message
Android version: 10.0
CAN version:
MCU version: JM5-00CA
System version: JCAC10003-OA1-V1.0.19B8-210223_1358
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Please note that according to AIDA64 app, the real android version is only 8.1 (Oreo)

Also have the same problem bro. Hoping for possible solution to this.

Same here

alibasbas said:
I have a China 9" android head-unit which is branded as Acodo.
Everytime I try to pair a bluetooth ELM327 v1.5 or v2.1 OBD2 Scanner, it fails to pair with the following error message:
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I think the above error message is due to the OBDII device having a pin of 1234. Unfortunately, there is no setting within the Android head unit which allows the setting of pin.
I have tried to use the app named . Within the app, I tried setting the PIN to 1234 and tried connecting but it results with the same error message:
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Is there any third party apk I can use to pair my bluetooth ELM327 OBD2 scanner to my android headunit? Or perhaps any instructions on how to make this work?
Here's some info inside Settings->About Car Engine
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Please note that according to AIDA64 app, the real android version is only 8.1 (Oreo)
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What is that app name?

Sorry for necroing this post, but I also have the same problem. Has anyone found a solution? Has anyone tried using another ELM327 adapter? I am currently on with their support, but I'm not sure we are getting anywhere.

arvinoids said:
Sorry for necroing this post, but I also have the same problem. Has anyone found a solution? Has anyone tried using another ELM327 adapter? I am currently on with their support, but I'm not sure we are getting anywhere.
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Did you manage to find a solution to this? I still cannot connect my Acodo Android 9" head unit via bluetooth OBD2 scanner.
I don't mind buying a specific bluetooth OBD2 scanner as long as it is working with my Acodo android head unit.

Anyone found a solution yet? I've tried a few apps from the play store only one gave me the option to set a key but even that didn't work.
Sharing the app incase if it helps someone else.
Bluetooth Force Pin Pair (Conn - Apps on Google Play
Solve some Bluetooth pairing connect problems such as: Get the error wrong pin..
play.google.com

Any help for this? Same problem here

Antsah82 said:
Any help for this? Same problem here
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Try a genuine obd and USB, such as obdlink SX the chinese knock offs are complete and utter garbage.
Post pictures of crushing the chinese garbage obd, such as running over with front tyre, hammer, concrete block, press or fire once genuine adapter brought and trumpyh gained.
If not wanting to buy a real adapter, try pairing toilet tissue, anticipating same results.

marchnz said:
Try a genuine obd and USB, such as obdlink SX the chinese knock offs are complete and utter garbage.
Post pictures of crushing the chinese garbage obd, such as running over with front tyre, hammer, concrete block, press or fire once genuine adapter brought and trumpyh gained.
If not wanting to buy a real adapter, try pairing toilet tissue, anticipating same results.
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Problem is not obd, problem is that you cant set pin code on android player. I have nexus netlink obd. Problem is the same every obd because cannot set pin

Antsah82 said:
Problem is not obd, problem is that you cant set pin code on android player. I have nexus netlink obd. Problem is the same every obd because cannot set pin
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Peugeot 407 SW with Android system - can't hear sound

Hello everyone
I have a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW and I installed a 2 din radio with Android. Connected every wire into its place, but I do have a few issues:
First, the private seller didn't told me anything about setting it up. But I managed to find the 6 digit-code accessible settings (what I found it was 000000 through a Google search) where I can setup the right type of canbus for it.
Ok, the canbus device I've been given is a Raise PSA-RZ-15, so thats the one I selected back in the options.
Steering wheel commands do work ok.
When I set the gear to reverse, it tries to obtain the back camera image (I don't have the back camera installed yet, but its ok).
And there are a few numbers in the trip statistics screen, so it gathered the travels I made recently.
But I can hear no sound, either from radio or from USB or Youtube through a wireless connection.
Any ideas? Do I need a different canbus device? Or I just need to select a different device in the advanced settings?
Thanks

If the unit is working then most likely you just connected the wrong wires.
I've got a Peugeot as well, so most likely you will have a similar connector to mine.
There should be a big male type connector for the one you removed from the back of your original radio. You have a female type connector which connects to this big one and the other side which is much smaller, and that connects to the headunit itself. Make sure it's connected together properly and the fastener is closed.
The canbus decoder is for the headunit to be able to communicate with the vehicle canbus. This makes the trip info appear on the screen, and the steering wheel controls to work. The one you have with your unit is usually enough for most people, but there is an upgraded version which can display A/C information and steering wheel angle too(for reversing).
If the steering wheel controls are not working, that's because you need to set the canbus decoder type in the settings. If your exact car type is not listed try something like 308, 408 or Berlingo, or RZC.

Well, I can't just have connected the wrong wires because I did not made any manual connections with the wires. I just plugged everything where they could fit; each connector only has 1 socket to fit. Its like having 1 USB, 1 VGA and 1 Serial ports and connect them all. Can't make it wrong.
As I have said, the steering wheel controls ARE WORKING.
The reverse gear activates the rear camera view.
I just can't hear anything.
In the advanced options panel, the canbus I have selected IS the canbus module I have, but that one refers as being to another vehicle. The one listed as being a 2006 407 Peugeot is actually a Hiworld.
What I want to know is:
Do I need to exchange this Raise and get the Hiworld module or just change this in the options? I tried several Raise ones but none makes the unit plays sound.

marciosilvadesign said:
Hello everyone
I have a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW and I installed a 2 din radio with Android. Connected every wire into its place, but I do have a few issues:
First, the private seller didn't told me anything about setting it up. But I managed to find the 6 digit-code accessible settings (what I found it was 000000 through a Google search) where I can setup the right type of canbus for it.
Ok, the canbus device I've been given is a Raise PSA-RZ-15, so thats the one I selected back in the options.
Steering wheel commands do work ok.
When I set the gear to reverse, it tries to obtain the back camera image (I don't have the back camera installed yet, but its ok).
And there are a few numbers in the trip statistics screen, so it gathered the travels I made recently.
But I can hear no sound, either from radio or from USB or Youtube through a wireless connection.
Any ideas? Do I need a different canbus device? Or I just need to select a different device in the advanced settings?
Thanks
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Is it an MTCD type device.
Post images from Android system information, including MCU version

Is this the information you need?

Not MTCD, requested moderator moves to Android Hesd units forum.

Not MTCD, requested moderator moves to Android Head units forum
Search results for query: Cvd1810
forum.xda-developers.com

Thanks for moving this to the correct place.
In fact is a CVD1810 / 8227 system. I have steering wheel controls and reverse camera. Just need to know what canbus to select in the options. The real one I have is Raise PSA RZ 15 and ofc I tried that one. No sound. Tried a bunch of others, no sound.

Do you have a link for the product?
Also, can you take a picture of your old head-unit and the wiring for the new unit?

Ok here ya go.
DSC_0060 is the cable from the car.
DSC_0061 is the cable connected to the canbus.
DSC_0077 is the back of the old unit
About that product link, as I bought it from some guy here in Portugal for a 2 day faster shipping, I don't have any link, but I can provide a link to a very similar unit (and to confirm my idea that the problem is the canbus module, as this following link, the supplied canbus is the one I want to try next). In fact, I have ordered it through Aliexpress and am waiting for it to be delivered and check it out (just the Hiworld module and the cable, not the whole unit).
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005003819208803.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2cee1e4bACNMwJ&algo_pvid=362fd344-3ddf-4211-ae3d-6f00f102c5fc&algo_exp_id=362fd344-3ddf-4211-ae3d-6f00f102c5fc-7&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000028318483259%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%21204.34%21110.35%21%21%2120.73%21%21%402101e9d316597902952473367e9883%2112000028318483259%21sea&curPageLogUid=3fg16rPKbO5N&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra

Hello again!
I have an update here:
I ordered the canbus Hiworld W25, wich is apropriate for Peugeot 407, and in fact I can see now all vehicle informations on screen like A/C and such. But the sound is still not coming to the car speakers... I'm starting to believe its a faulty wiring or something from the unit itself...

Another update:
My car has JBL speakers, subwoofer and amplifier. So the regular canbus ordered is not enough. I need a Peugeot 407 with JBL speakers specific canbus. Maybe the Raise PSA RZ 67 will do this?

You need to make sure your audio cable is connected. You can search for installation videos on youtube, about the screen that appears when reversing, you can ask the seller where to set it up, this feature can be turned off.

Bychange said:
You need to make sure your audio cable is connected. You can search for installation videos on youtube, about the screen that appears when reversing, you can ask the seller where to set it up, this feature can be turned off.
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All cables seem connected in their places. What happens, some guy in Peugeot forums sent me this link:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004252265202.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
Its a canbus + cable for Peugeot 407, and this cable has a TON of connectors my current cable doesn't. I assume this cable will solve my issue, so maybe I don't need to mess up with the wires.

Hello!
I have received the new canbus + cable, wich I got from here:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004252265202.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.0.0.4d864c7fNv8ICh&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
And it actually WORKS! I have sound from the car speakers with the cheap android unit!
The android unit itself, its very very similar to the ones on this product, like the M150S.
Navegação De Gps Do Andróide 11 Para Para Peugeot 407 2004-2011 Vídeo 4g Lte Bt Do Rádio Dos Multimédios Do Carro Nenhum Dvd 2din Carplay Dvr - AliExpress

Hey guys,
marciosilvadesign said:
Hello!
I have received the new canbus + cable, wich I got from here:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004252265202.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.0.0.4d864c7fNv8ICh&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra
And it actually WORKS! I have sound from the car speakers with the cheap android unit!
The android unit itself, its very very similar to the ones on this product, like the M150S.
Navegação De Gps Do Andróide 11 Para Para Peugeot 407 2004-2011 Vídeo 4g Lte Bt Do Rádio Dos Multimédios Do Carro Nenhum Dvd 2din Carplay Dvr - AliExpress
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Hi,
Can u tell me, if the sound of the PDC also works well with this harness?
Thanks a lot

deekay35 said:
Hey guys,
Hi,
Can u tell me, if the sound of the PDC also works well with this harness?
Thanks a lot
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Hey! Can you please clarify me of what PDC means?

marciosilvadesign said:
Hey! Can you please clarify me of what PDC means?
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OH sorry ,
I mean ParkDistanceControl

deekay35 said:
OH sorry ,
I mean ParkDistanceControl
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Well yes, this harness has a speaker on it (like my previous one). The difference is this one has more connectors to plug to the original radio and send the sound signal to the android.
When parking, I see the graphic on screen with red and orange bars depending if I'm close to some object, or very close. And it displays where the object is. Similar to this image:
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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marciosilvadesign said:
Well yes, this harness has a speaker on it (like my previous one). The difference is this one has more connectors to plug to the original radio and send the sound signal to the android.
When parking, I see the graphic on screen with red and orange bars depending if I'm close to some object, or very close. And it displays where the object is. Similar to this image:
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Thank you for your answer

please help can bus disconnect

please help I have problem with my head unit always shows canbus disconnet
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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I have problems with mobility in cold mornings

does anyone have the same head unit?

Milad Jarjees said:
does anyone have the same head unit?
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Sorry, but what do you expect?
Anything not working? If yes... What???
If the unit switches on with Key in Pos 2 or ignition and powers down when removing the key, the CANbox works as expected.
If you want more, you may set the correct CAN settings in the head unit.

Thank you for your reply. so as in the picture can bus disconnet So i can't use car app to know how much diesel my car uses also no warning when door open and other thing.I tried all can bus
Options all for my WV but without successful

Milad Jarjees said:
Thank you for your reply. so as in the picture can bus disconnet So i can't use car app to know how much diesel my car uses also no warning when door open and other thing.I tried all can bus
Options all for my WV but without successful
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In this case get in contact with the seller, give him all information about your car, incl. model year and what is needed and ask for the correct Can adapter. Might be the wrong one for your car.

rigattoni said:
In this case get in contact with the seller, give him all information about your car, incl. model year and what is needed and ask for the correct Can adapter. Might be the wrong one for your car.
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I ordered an extra head unit for Golf sportsvan 2014 he knows exactly my car . without can bus i have black screen i think it is right can bus maybe software problem that because i posted here

Milad Jarjees said:
I ordered an extra head unit for Golf sportsvan 2014 he knows exactly my car . without can bus i have black screen i think it is right can bus maybe software problem that because i posted here
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You just get information from the CAN if the CANbox could interpret the messages. If not, nothing is shown.
I´m still pretty sure that the CANbox is the wrong one or the settings in the head unit are wrong.

@Sanno ???

Milad Jarjees said:
please help I have problem with my head unit always shows canbus disconnet
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please poll the android car stereo out and check if the the can bus connected an if there is no short with cables, then take a photo for the can bus sticker and send it here

On top, I would read out the BCM for CAN error messages.

rigattoni said:
On top, I would read out the BCM for CAN error messages.
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i mean on the black box steacker

Sanno said:
i mean on the black box steacker
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...and I mean to read out any error message stored on the modules.
It always can be possible that any issue on the CAN sets an error code in the BCM (Body Control Modul).
BTW: If you just connect something to the CAN, you need to make sure that the CAN is terminated.
Needs to get read out with an OBD scanner.

rigattoni said:
...and I mean to read out any error message stored on the modules.
It always can be possible that any issue on the CAN sets an error code in the BCM (Body Control Modul).
BTW: If you just connect something to the CAN, you need to make sure that the CAN is terminated.
Needs to get read out with an OBD scanner.
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Could you explain this last message? How would you recommend looking at the CANBUS to determine whether a head unit is causing a short/issue versus another vehicle component/wiring issue? I'm having a lot of issues after installing a new stereo, but was having a few minor issues beforehand in the same general area of the vehicle.

rabbited said:
Could you explain this last message? How would you recommend looking at the CANBUS to determine whether a head unit is causing a short/issue versus another vehicle component/wiring issue? I'm having a lot of issues after installing a new stereo, but was having a few minor issues beforehand in the same general area of the vehicle.
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Well...
If any attached system has issues and disturbs the CAN, you will have multiple issues in this CAN.
You need to connect an oscilloscope to see what is going on on the CAN and if the signals are correct. If they are not correct, you need to find the controller or device which is disturbing the communication.
As long as this has not been fixed, you may have issues also with the radio. Analyze the issue correctly and fix what you will find.
You need to get the diagram of the CAN where the Radio is attached to and then follow the diagram to narrow that down.
At least a scan for errors with a good OBD device will help to filter out what is wrong.