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Just watched a benchmark comparison between the S and S2 and the S2 appears to be a dud. Only like 52000 on antutu. My Nexus 6 with snapgragon 805 scores higher than that. why samsung did not use the same exynos they put in the S6 is beyond me. What do you guys think about it? Supposed to be out by end of the month from what I read.
Still faster then most of the world has but should be a little better for a flagship. I'm happy that i don't need to upgrade this year!
But still the fastest tablet, yes they could use the S6 cpu, but why would they do that?
They are selling tablets to make money not to please their customers.
The YouTube video I watched showed it has double the scores than the original tab s... What's your point OP?
samsung will not sell a tablet that will outclass it's flagship phones, tab S2 is lucky enough to receive a core from S6 compared to our tablet which didn't even receive the S5's 5422 which is HMP capable (all cores firing) yet pushing a larger screen resolution 1440p.
Tab S2 could be worth the upgrade only if
1) they retain or make the screen reso higher
2) better camera WITH flash (why dont they use a bigger camera on a bigger device? )
3) forget being super thin, we need battery!!
4) (personal preference) thinner bezel on all sides
perhaps somewhere down the road, we'll see a tab S edge LOL
My only gripe is that they forgot support for our tab S! Where are these damn updates!
I don't think the specs are too bad. I like the new ratio 4:3 I primarly use the tablet to browse and read, "watching videos" comes third, (and I certainly won't watch complete movies. )
I love that the tablet is as light as possible, I hope it won't affect the battery too much
Yes the S2 should've received the new S6 cpu... But on the other hand, will it make any practical differences instead of a number in a benchmark? I doubt it.
They saved money by not implementing a flash. Which is a pitty for a flagship. But on the other side I don't think I ever made more than 10 photos with my old tablet.
Price is unfortunately not cheap, you pay a flagship price.
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My only gripe is that they forgot support for our tab S! Where are these damn updates!
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Remember the Tab Pro?
That hasn't seen one major OS update. Released a few months earlier than the Tab S. Samsung needs to support their tablet line up.
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Found this today:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-s2-initial-impressions-632447/
Specs for those who haven't seen (this is a review of the import model so USA specs might be different?)
Exynos 5433 Octa-core SoC
3GB of RAM
32 or 64GB of on-board storageand
8-megapixel rear, 2.1-megapixel front camera set-up (no front flash)
Android 5.0.2
and features
Same “touch-based” fingerprint sensor used in the Galaxy S6
MicroSD
9.7-inch variant includes a 5,870mAh battery - the 8-inch variant a 4,000mAh power-cell
4:3 aspect ratio- 2048×1536 SAMOLED display
I JUST bought my Tab S a few days ago knowing this was going to be formally announced within my 15 days return policy period. But I got the 8.4 Tab S on sale for $299 at Best Buy, which I think it a great price point. It would take OUTSTANDING battery life and some kind of totally revamped touchwiz or stock android option with the newest snapdragon for me to switch I think.
I don't want any updates, I could be on official lollipop but i decided to stick with kitkat that is super stable, no way am i going to upgrade to lollipop as it has too many bugs, that out-way the new features.
Yeah, I noticed that the Tab Pro owners are still on kitkat, I have been posting on their forum warning them about lollipop if they get version v5.0.2
If we get Android M, I will wait for any problems to show before i upgrade or not.
John.
Samsung just dump a product within a year. Hate to say it but I find that's why people buy Apple plus the residual sales values.
So as Samsung copy everything Apple can't they also copy software support.
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I don't want any updates, I could be on official lollipop but i decided to stick with kitkat that is super stable, no way am i going to upgrade to lollipop as it has too many bugs, that out-way the new features.
Yeah, I noticed that the Tab Pro owners are still on kitkat, I have been posting on their forum warning them about lollipop if they get version v5.0.2
If we get Android M, I will wait for any problems to show before i upgrade or not.
John.
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I personally love the Lollipop update !
Particularly the recent updates coupled with my SkyHigh kernel make it so much faster, smoother and stable than KK.
That's what we do here at XDA, we don't want to hear whining, we want to be proactive and try improve on it
So what other "bugs" if you haven't bothered to upgrade ? Some found on other websites and forums have mentioned poor RAM management, but this has been the "norm" for most Samsung devices and TW. My kernel goes someway to addressing that.
As far as Tab-S2 goes - I'm really disappointed in the SoC (amongst other hardware). Not premium at all....
Not everybody want to flash their Tab S due to warranty ect, A lot of people have reported problems with official lollipop v5.0.2, all i am saying is they should wait for any problems to be revealed before upgrading.
It`s great that you found a lollipop rom that works for you.
John.
UpInTheAir said:
I personally love the Lollipop update !
Particularly the recent updates coupled with my SkyHigh kernel make it so much faster, smoother and stable than KK.
That's what we do here at XDA, we don't want to hear whining, we want to be proactive and try improve on it
So what other "bugs" if you haven't bothered to upgrade ? Some found on other websites and forums have mentioned poor RAM management, but this has been the "norm" for most Samsung devices and TW. My kernel goes someway to addressing that.
As far as Tab-S2 goes - I'm really disappointed in the SoC (amongst other hardware). Not premium at all....
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Not everybody want to flash their Tab S due to warranty ect, A lot of people have reported problems with official lollipop v5.0.2, all i am saying is they should wait for any problems to be revealed before upgrading.
It`s great that you found a lollipop rom that works for you.
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Users should make up their own minds rather than taking advice from someone who (by admission) hasn't bothered to try themselves.
For those that worry, the latest LL firmwares far exceed the old KK firmwares as far as stability and smoothness in it's stock state. Take it from someone whom has flashed both stock and customized KK and LL firmware for T705.
It's easy to find out yourself and just as easy to downgrade via Odin without breaking warranty.
But things can always be improved upon (depending on point-of-view) and modified with options. Why ? Because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS, not sammobile.com.
Anyway, sorry OP for the OT.
So what lollipop rom and kernel do your recommend, I have an UK T800.
John.
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Users should make up their own minds rather than taking advice from someone who (by admission) hasn't bothered to try themselves.
For those that worry, the latest LL firmwares far exceed the old KK firmwares as far as stability and smoothness in it's stock state. Take it from someone whom has flashed both stock and customized KK and LL firmware for T705.
It's easy to find out yourself and just as easy to downgrade via Odin without breaking warranty.
But things can always be improved upon (depending on point-of-view) and modified with options. Why ? Because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS, not sammobile.com.
Anyway, sorry OP for the OT.
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my tablet use always 60% movie, 20% browsing/reading news, 20% gaming.
I don't think 4:3 will do much good for me.
I just got this little beast yesterday. I live in Thailand where it was released about 4 days ago, i paid exactly $451 for the 32gb LTE 8-inch version. In the past 5 years that i have been on and off samsung devices, this is the first time that i notice a smooth, lagless touchwiz experience. Actually, before i even buy any samsung devices i make sure they have been in the market a few months, and there a few customs roms out. This time around samsung did a good job cutting down on the bloatware and the new redesigned touchwiz is surprisingly good.
The 4:3 ratio is perfect for me as i will be using it mainly for school.
The only thing i am concerned about is battery life, The Huawei Ascend Mate 7, a 6-inch phablet, has a 4100mah battery. This 8-inch tablet has a 4000mah battery.
Samsung claims:
9 hours of LTE web browsing,
10 hours of WIFI web browsing
14 hours of video.
Here are my stats for the first 5 hours:
Turned on with 55%,
after 5 hours it was sitting at 10% with 3 hours of SOT,
somewhat heavy usage downloading apps, setting it up, installing everything, and testing it.
That oled display is going to kill your battery for school work, all that white gulps down the power, you would gave been better off with an lcd display that does not care what colour the screen is.
Check to see if your apps/browser has an night mode that turn white to black, If your prefer white just keep the brightness low to save as much power as possible.
John.
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I just got this little beast yesterday. I live in Thailand where it was released about 4 days ago, i paid exactly $451 for the 32gb LTE 8-inch version. In the past 5 years that i have been on and off samsung devices, this is the first time that i notice a smooth, lagless touchwiz experience. Actually, before i even buy any samsung devices i make sure they have been in the market a few months, and there a few customs roms out. This time around samsung did a good job cutting down on the bloatware and the new redesigned touchwiz is surprisingly good.
The 4:3 ratio is perfect for me as i will be using it mainly for school.
The only thing i am concerned about is battery life, The Huawei Ascend Mate 7, a 6-inch phablet, has a 4100mah battery. This 8-inch tablet has a 4000mah battery.
Samsung claims:
9 hours of LTE web browsing,
10 hours of WIFI web browsing
14 hours of video.
Here are my stats for the first 5 hours:
Turned on with 55%,
after 5 hours it was sitting at 10% with 3 hours of SOT,
somewhat heavy usage downloading apps, setting it up, installing everything, and testing it.
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That oled display is going to kill your battery for school work, all that white gulps down the power, you would gave been better off with an lcd display that does not care what colour the screen is.
Check to see if your apps/browser has an night mode that turn white to black, If your prefer white just keep the brightness low to save as much power as possible.
John.
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I thought so too, My next option was the iPad mini. I'll just use this one for now and see how well it performs, and when the new iPad mini comes out, i'll decide which is better.
Oled display are really best for Video the colors look amazing and power used when playing a video is lower than any lcd tablet according to power consumption group tests.
John.
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I thought so too, My next option was the iPad mini. I'll just use this one for now and see how well it performs, and when the new iPad mini comes out, i'll decide which is better.
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I've been using a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 for a couple of years and I've been mostly happy with it. My tab has developed hardware problems and now crashes a lot. I'm thinking of switching to a different 8" pad with more recent firmware. Did anybody switch from a Tab S to an M3? Can you tell me the pros and cons off the M3 compared to the Tab S?
The Galaxy Tab S is the best tablet I've ever had. The only cons that I had with it is that the Exynos chip, unless you got the better Snapdragon variant. What largely disappointed me with the M3 is how the screen was calibrated, this is a bit subjective but I prefer the look of the basic mode on the Galaxy Tab S. If you've been in the adaptive mode then I doubt you'll dislike how the display looks. The M3 has bit of heft on weight in comparison to the Galaxy Tab S. The OS is purely disappointing and the DPI isn't similar to a tablet, so the UI of the M3 looks like it's a big phone. GPU performance isn't that big of a leap. What's really great on the M3 is its speaker. It's an absolute bliss listening to it. Also, build quality is a lot premium than the Galaxy Tab S. In my opinion the only route you'll have is to purchase the expensive Galaxy Tab S3 or a cheaper 1080p tablet from Lenovo, the Lenovo Tab 4 8 plus which has a snapdragon 625. You probably have the same dilemma as mine, I was spoiled by the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Tab S that I couldn't purchase any tablet with a 4:3 aspect ratio or I could be wrong.
Thanks, that's just the kind of information I was looking for. You're right, I like the aspect ratio on the Tab S and I don't want to switch to a tablet with a 4:3 ratio. It's really a shame that tablets don't seem to get much attention and that there are so few to choose from. I couldn't get by without my tablet.
Guess I'll have to compromise one way or another.
I loved my Tab S and when it took a nose dive off the kitchen side I instantly went to buy the same model for two reasons. Firstly, tablets haven't evolved much in the past couple of years and I didn't like the ratio of the Tab S2 and S3. However, when I saw that the Tab S was still north of £200 and not far south for second hand I decided to research into something newer. Main requirement was the screen ratio of the Tab S
Agree with everything mentioned above but will also add that the bonus of the bulk is 3 days battery versus 1 day on the Tab S along with a premium feel.
Overall I am really happy with the M3. The Nougat update removes the over sized phone GUI and improves the feel of the tablet massively. That said if I'd bought the M3 as an upgrade to the Tab S if think I would have been disappointed as it's not a marked improvement but certainly didn't want to return it once I started playing. BTW if you leave it in phone mode Google Assistant apparently !!
Development is limited but the Firmware Finder app does a pretty good job of releasing beta firmware and providing tools to install them.
Got a decent screen protector, case (although, dodgy colour) and hard tip stylus if you need recommendations
Tough call. I'm still hoping I can get my Tab S working well again, but if I can't, I may give the M3 a try. Thanks for the suggestions. I may be back soon.
I never had a Tab S but i did and still have a Tab Pro 8.4. The M3 is a great replacement honestly. The screen is bright and responsive. The speakers are a huge upgrade. The new UI 5.0 is decent. I wish there was more development for linage or similar builds, but you can still root this tablet if you want. I currently don't have mine rooted, and only reason I would right now is to enable the 5mhz AC band in the US. Otherwise, the original build is fine. Compared to the Pro 8.4 the finger print access is huge and the overall speed of the tablet make it night and day. I was able to get the 64gb internal storage one on sale from Amazon for a little over $275 so feels like a huge value to me compared to similar samsungs. I would wish there was not only more development but more 3rd party cases and such. Otherwise it is an amazing tablet and the only real option in the 16:10 situation. The new tab pro 8 4 has been gimped for all us models with only 16gb and 2 gb of ram.
oh hey
I'm in a similar position - I've had my Tab S 8.4 since it launched 2014, and since the S2 came out as 4:3 I've been looking for a "better" tablet, and not been able to find one.
(Why do Samsung always do this - First Galaxy Note 16:10, everything else 16:9, first Galaxy Tab S 16:10, everything else 4:3, why, why, WHY)
Reading a lot of reviews and opinions on this M3 when the S3 came out, didn't leave me overly impressed. But it's nearly 2018 and there STILL isn't a better tablet (eye heart amoled), and this is the closest it comes if you want an 8.4 inch, 16:10 Tablet that takes SD cards. 32GB & 3GB RAM is starting to ware thin so I'm going to take the plunge. Wish me luck.
EDIT: Actually, scratch that. I'm used to (circa-2010) HTC and current Samsung forums full of roms and changes - there doesn't even seem to be any customs ROMs for this tablet? If we hit Jan 2019 and this is still the only option, then I'll go for this. I seriously hope not.
Samsung loads useless software you can't disable. Huawei is a much cleaner. I stay away from Samsung now. Had a galaxy tab pro, yes the big one. Samsung makes good hardware, just buy the package disabler on play store. I like the Huawei, I can hold in one hand & read easily.
I had and still have the Tab S, well my daughter and son-in-law use it now. Development on this tablet is the only negative that I see. That and I am not a fan of the UI, but I just load Nova and bam, best tablet ever. I used to Root and Rom all the time, but android mostly does everything I want now, and you can remove most of the programs you don't use anymore. I was waiting to see if Google was going to release and 7 or 8 inch tablet and they didn't so this is perfect for me. Powerful, good battery and fits in my back pocket when I head to Starbucks.
I originally bought the Tab S to use as a light-weight alternative to a laptop while traveling, but then I found that with the long battery life, I was using it every day. I'm traveling now, but I'm going to take the plunge and get an M3 when I'm back home.
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I originally bought the Tab S to use as a light-weight alternative to a laptop while traveling, but then I found that with the long battery life, I was using it every day. I'm traveling now, but I'm going to take the plunge and get an M3 when I'm back home.
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Do it do it!! BTW I wanted the LTE version but Amazon only had it from 3rd party resellers in Spain. Amazon Germany have it sold by Amazon and will ship to the UK (providing that's where you are based)
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Do it do it!! BTW I wanted the LTE version but Amazon only had it from 3rd party resellers in Spain. Amazon Germany have it sold by Amazon and will ship to the UK (providing that's where you are based)
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No, I'm in the US. I'll have to see where I can buy it here.
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Tough call. I'm still hoping I can get my Tab S working well again, but if I can't, I may give the M3 a try. Thanks for the suggestions. I may be back soon.
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Seriousle, the M3 is the best tablet that I had. I also have the Samsung Tab S3 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. The M3 is much faster than the Tab S3, by a substantial margin. Both are excellent tablets, and the Tab S3 targets different uses and users but for sheer compatibility and speed, the MediaPad M3 cannot be beat.
I also have a Tab S 8.4 and I love it. But it's a 2 years old tablet and the battery capacity is not as good as the first times.
So my first choice is M3. But I also have a OnePlus 3. I don't want to carry 2 charger so I'm looking for a type-c tablet. M3's micro usb charging slot is the only negative thing for me.
I'm also looking for a tablet that will go for 2-3 years at least.
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I also have a Tab S 8.4 and I love it. But it's a 2 years old tablet and the battery capacity is not as good as the first times.
So my first choice is M3. But I also have a OnePlus 3. I don't want to carry 2 charger so I'm looking for a type-c tablet. M3's micro usb charging slot is the only negative thing for me.
I'm also looking for a tablet that will go for 2-3 years at least.
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Can't you just use the same charger with a different cable? I use a dual USB charger that I use to charge multiple devices. I can charge either my Android devices or my wife's Apple stuff just using the appropriate cable.
Helllo !
My previous tablet was a tab S 8.4. Media pad M3 is much better but I only miss the amoled screen .
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Can't you just use the same charger with a different cable? I use a dual USB charger that I use to charge multiple devices. I can charge either my Android devices or my wife's Apple stuff just using the appropriate cable.
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I cannot use the Dash Charger (DS) with my Samsung TabS 8.4
I tried many different cables but DS do not charge it. I'm not sure if I'll be able to charge any other devices with DS bye th way.
My main reason for switching away from the Tab S 8.4 was the internal storage. Since it was upgraded to Marshmallow, updating apps became a pain because of the low space. Apart from the faster CPU, I thought the S2 & S3's were more of a downgrade. I've since switched to the Mediapad M3 64GB version and love it. I rarely travel with my laptop nowadays.
I like the fact that Huawei allows you to unlock the bootloader and rooting wasn't very hard. I haven't upgraded to nougat yet. I wasn't sure if the rooting procedure changed but mostly because Xposed wasn't available for Nougat yet. Now that Xposed is now available (https://www.xda-developers.com/official-xposed-framework-android-nougat/), I'll look into upgrading.
One caveat about the US version. For some reason, the 5GHz wifi radio was disabled. However, I was able to re-enable it via a tweak to a configuration file but it required root to do it. I'm not sure if it's still disabled with Nougat.
I made the jump and got the Mediapad a few days ago. One of the reasons I decided on the Mediapad was that I read that Huawei allowed the bootloader to be unlocked. As I've discussed in some other threads, I've been unable to get an unlock code from the Huawei website. Yesterday, I sent Huawei an email requesting an unlock code and I got a reply back saying that Hauwei US does not provide unlock codes and that unlocking would invalidate my warranty. WTF? They have a website to provide unlock codes, but they say that they won't allow it? Does anybody know what this means?
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I made the jump and got the Mediapad a few days ago. One of the reasons I decided on the Mediapad was that I read that Huawei allowed the bootloader to be unlocked. As I've discussed in some other threads, I've been unable to get an unlock code from the Huawei website. Yesterday, I sent Huawei an email requesting an unlock code and I got a reply back saying that Hauwei US does not provide unlock codes and that unlocking would invalidate my warranty. WTF? They have a website to provide unlock codes, but they say that they won't allow it? Does anybody know what this means?
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So I am looking for an Wear OS watch. Any ideas for a good watch and overall good. I had a Sony smart watch 3 and it was nice for what it was but looking for something better. Got a Nexus 6p for my phone.
Maybe Huawei Watch 2 or Ticwatch Pro.
Wysłane z mojego SM-G935F przy użyciu Tapatalka
If you want a cheap but good quality wear OS device, I suggest Ticwatch E. Changeable straps, android oreo, 24hr battery life, good build quality.
I can recommend the TicWatch Pro. A really nice device. First I had a Ticwatch E, but it's a plastic device and the haptical feeling is really cheap.
In terms of quality and design i can recomand emporio armani hugo boss ot tommy hifigher watch but in terms of features and battery all three are averege. Ticwatch pro is best option on marchet rigt now but all big producers are lawnching theyre new watches like huawei watch 3, lg urban 3, moto 360 3rd gen all are wright around the corner.
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I really enjoy my Fossil Sport. Battery lasts me a day and half to two. Good for fitness, waterproof, and has the new chipset so it should only get better with the next WearOS update.
Also it's on sale now for less than $200 so it's a steal!
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I really enjoy my Fossil Sport. Battery lasts me a day and half to two. Good for fitness, waterproof, and has the new chipset so it should only get better with the next WearOS update.
Also it's on sale now for less than $200 so it's a steal!
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I got a fossil q g4 explorer and the Micheal Kors I like em both
I was finally time to retire my gear s2
Im a mechanic and its lasted over a year no issues But I the battery is killed over in the last few weeks
Is it still OK to "resurrect" a 1 year old post? Damn, last time I used xda was a life ago.. Anyway, back here for searching the same thing: Which smartwatch to buy.
I researched a bit and as for now, the 4 best choices are:
1) Fossil Sport
2) Ticwatch Pro
3) Huawei watch 2
4) Skagen Falster 2
But all of them are "some months old" already. So, not sure if waiting for the new generation or "f*** it imma get it anyway".
2) Ticwatch Pro
I have almost all Wear Watch (and Huawei 2) but the Ticwatch Pro is for far the better. 2nd LCD screen for always ON and not light emited like a lighthouse. Large OLED screen 1.4". Better battery life for all wear watch. Real innovation for a watch.
Last 4 posters: did you know that it's a year old thread?
Anyway I'm using Fossil Gen 3 and happy with it. The Gen 4 only ads NFC...
If you you are interested in a ticwatch, there is now a limited $50 / €50 off using code "Mobvoi50TY" during checkout. Will make the Ticwatch Pro even a better price/performance
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Last 4 posters: did you know that it's a year old thread?
Anyway I'm using Fossil Gen 3 and happy with it. The Gen 4 only ads NFC...
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is fossil gen 3 have wear os 2.x with android H
Loc Tran said:
is fossil gen 3 have wear os 2.x with android H
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It runs wear os 2.x. got few updates and all ok. Gen 4 added NFC and heart monitor, so I got gen 3 as don't use those 2 apps.
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It runs wear os 2.x. got few updates and all ok. Gen 4 added NFC and heart monitor, so I got gen 3 as don't use those 2 apps.
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But the android base version is 7, 8.1.1 or android H? Cuz if it just android 8.1.1, ticwatch e somehow still better with lower price
Loc Tran said:
But the android base version is 7, 8.1.1 or android H? Cuz if it just android 8.1.1, ticwatch e somehow still better with lower price
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Watch dead now. Will charge and let you know tomorrow. It's very good anyway and no regrets so far...
Hi, sorry I know this isn't the M8 forum, but there is no M8 forum, so I hope somebody here might have a bit of knowledge about a different Lenovo tablet. I'm looking for a decent 8" tablet to replace an OLD Samsung Tab Pro 8.4. I've never had a MediaTek device, nor a Lenovo tablet (but plenty of thinkpads, going back to an x20). Any experience? advice? reviews? I'm looking at the M8 FHD version.
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[...]I'm looking for a decent 8" tablet to replace an OLD Samsung Tab Pro 8.4. I've never had a MediaTek device, nor a Lenovo tablet (but plenty of thinkpads, going back to an x20). Any experience? advice? reviews? I'm looking at the M8 FHD version.
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I am using myself a Lenovo Tab M8 (FHD) (TB-8705F). It replaced a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (SM-T710) and my criteria where Full HD, 8", decent update support, "plain" Android and 3+ GB RAM. A clear fail is the aspect "decent update support". Otherwise, I am mostly fine while power is limited. Look and feel is nice while the edges are kind of "sharp" when holding it for a while.
My alternative was a Samsung Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (2019) but this has a poorer screen resolution (while I know Samsung is quite OK with updates with some exceptions).
I remember an review of the HD version which was addressing also the differences but this one is matching to my experience also the FHD (good battery, poor update support, ...) besides the obvious differences (screen).
Overall, not sure whether I would buy it again but haven't identified a better option yet.
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I am using myself a Lenovo Tab M8 (FHD) (TB-8705F). It replaced a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (SM-T710) and my criteria where Full HD, 8", decent update support, "plain" Android and 3+ GB RAM. A clear fail is the aspect "decent update support". Otherwise, I am mostly fine while power is limited. Look and feel is nice while the edges are kind of "sharp" when holding it for a while.
My alternative was a Samsung Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (2019) but this has a poorer screen resolution (while I know Samsung is quite OK with updates with some exceptions).
I remember an review of the HD version which was addressing also the differences but this one is matching to my experience also the FHD (good battery, poor update support, ...) besides the obvious differences (screen).
Overall, not sure whether I would buy it again but haven't identified a better option yet.
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I ordered one based on price and that old TAB Pro still being on Android 5. The only other real option in the running was the LTE-enabled Samsung 8.3" Tab A, which has improved resolution over the 8", but is at least twice the price.
Hi there! I haven’t been happy/have ran into issues with the Android 10 update. Is there a way to flash android 9 back onto my m8 Fhd?
Ps I’m pretty much a beginner at this... so if there are further links that could guide me about steps and accessing firmwares, etc. it’d be great if you could share! thanks and stay safe. happy holidays
I bought the Lenovo m8 FHD. Great tablet, Im using mine as a car head unit to replace a buggy old Nexus 7 with Timur's kernel. I was gonna get a Galaxy Tab A or any Galaxy but none of the sizes woud fit (too wide). When I discovered the Lenovo was the same width with more height, much better spec it was a no brainer. Just not much help available on here for them, dont know why (see my latest thread). Its perfect for a car head unit! Rooted with magisk, I bought a LavaSync OTG hub which doesn't require root but bought it anyway (American company, google it). This provides USB audio out to my miniDSP. I just need to increase volume steps then I can install the thing. Use tasker to set up any automated options, ie when powered [do this] else [sleep...]. Simples
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Hi there! I haven’t been happy/have ran into issues with the Android 10 update. Is there a way to flash android 9 back onto my m8 Fhd?
Ps I’m pretty much a beginner at this... so if there are further links that could guide me about steps and accessing firmwares, etc. it’d be great if you could share! thanks and stay safe. happy holidays
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Just got Tab M8 FHD and decided to give Android 9 a try since tablet is more laggy than I though.
I got rom from https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/lenovo/Tab_M8_FHD/TB-8705F/
Flashed it with SP_Flash_Tool, using the Download agent MTK_AllInOne_DA_6765.bin (found in the archive with the ROM) (I disabled "Check LIB DA match" in Flash tool options).
Rom TB-8705F_S100099_200706_BMP.zip is Android 9. Got Magisk and EdXposed running.
Maybe it's just in my mind but it does seem faster than Android 10 - well at least when scrolling through menus or browsing Play Store. Overall performance is probably the same so downgrading won't make games / apps run smoother.
Get flash tool from https://spflashtool.com/
I used this guide:
What is SP Flash Tool ? How to Flash Stock Firmware Using SP Flash Tool
Did you download the firmware for your device with the correct model name ? if you didn't then click here to find all the Stock Firmware collection from this list of supported smartphone. If you have downloaded then here i will guide you on How to install Stock firmware Using SP Flash Tool
www.getdroidtips.com
I am running a Lenovo Tab m8 FHD Tb-8507F. I have manually flashed the system.img for Android 9 from the link.
xaforib posted using fastboot. Unfortunately, my device is now stuck in a bootloop and I cannot enter recovery mode to perform a factory reset which seems to be the solution on other devices. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? When I flash the system.img for the Android 10 versions from the link, they work. My problem lies in flashing Android 9. Thanks! (I am struggling to use spflash on my linuxmint laptop).
Hello All,
I am upgrading my 6T and trying to get some feedback regarding if the 8 Pro is still a good value a year later and worth buying. I know that there are 2 newer OnePlus phones out there, but just trying to get some feedback. Rooting is important to me and I will typically find a ROM and Kernel I like and stick with it. Obviously, the 9 isn't going to have any support for a while. What about the 8T? Is the 8 Pro a better phone than the 8T?
Thanks, in advance.
If you are not anti-samsung. I think you should go for Galaxy S21+. I'm not very happy with my OnePlus 8 Pro, saving some money to upgrade Samsung. They disabled photochrome, they are not keeping their promises about software updates. Screens has too many issues, screens are made by Samsung I know but Samsung's RMA is much better. My father was has Galaxy Note 8 and he had screen burn-in and they replaced it under a hour. We just took a burger and they replaced all around chassic and screen of phone after we came back to Samsung Center, living in Turkey btw I'm not sure they have this quick repair service everywhere.
And OnePlus 9 is just scam for me they are slapping Hasselblad brand to everywhere but Hasselblad isn't designed their camera they just calibrated colors at software level. OnePlus phones are really solid in many ways but they are trying to sell their devices same price with Samsung's. I think the only disadvantage of Samsung is they are cutting software updates too soon and some people does not like OneUI much. Btw If you have questions about 8Pro I can answer them I'm still using it.
emirefek said:
If you are not anti-samsung. I think you should go for Galaxy S21+. I'm not very happy with my OnePlus 8 Pro, saving some money to upgrade Samsung. They disabled photochrome, they are not keeping their promises about software updates. Screens has too many issues, screens are made by Samsung I know but Samsung's RMA is much better. My father was has Galaxy Note 8 and he had screen burn-in and they replaced it under a hour. We just took a burger and they replaced all around chassic and screen of phone after we came back to Samsung Center, living in Turkey btw I'm not sure they have this quick repair service everywhere.
And OnePlus 9 is just scam for me they are slapping Hasselblad brand to everywhere but Hasselblad isn't designed their camera they just calibrated colors at software level. OnePlus phones are really solid in many ways but they are trying to sell their devices same price with Samsung's. I think the only disadvantage of Samsung is they are cutting software updates too soon and some people does not like OneUI much. Btw If you have about 8Pro I can answer them I'm still using it.
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Thanks for the informative post. Is the S21+ rootable?
azsl1326 said:
Thanks for the informative post. Is the S21+ rootable?
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Yes it is but in Samsung root or unlocking bootloader instantly voids your warranty unrecoverable way. Actually after Android 11 hiding root is nearly impossible or you need to do so much work to hide root from banking apps, most of them fails.
emirefek said:
If you are not anti-samsung. I think you should go for Galaxy S21+. I'm not very happy with my OnePlus 8 Pro, saving some money to upgrade Samsung. They disabled photochrome, they are not keeping their promises about software updates. Screens has too many issues, screens are made by Samsung I know but Samsung's RMA is much better. My father was has Galaxy Note 8 and he had screen burn-in and they replaced it under a hour. We just took a burger and they replaced all around chassic and screen of phone after we came back to Samsung Center, living in Turkey btw I'm not sure they have this quick repair service everywhere.
And OnePlus 9 is just scam for me they are slapping Hasselblad brand to everywhere but Hasselblad isn't designed their camera they just calibrated colors at software level. OnePlus phones are really solid in many ways but they are trying to sell their devices same price with Samsung's. I think the only disadvantage of Samsung is they are cutting software updates too soon and some people does not like OneUI much. Btw If you have questions about 8Pro I can answer them I'm still using it.
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display issues like ? can you explain little bit.. im thinking to buy 8 Pro because i didnt liked the 9 Series .. and what about heating issue?
Swp1996 said:
display issues like ? can you explain little bit.. im thinking to buy 8 Pro because i didnt liked the 9 Series .. and what about heating issue?
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I've had my Pro 8 for a year with no display or heat issues! It's still a great device with good XDA members support and development! Cheers
Dont buy samsung phone unless you can get snapdragon variant. Even then you should go for 8Pro just because it's officially supported on lineageos - which is really nice thing to have if you decide to go that path.
Then again, if you have samsung accessories like watch active 2/3 then staying on samsung's ecosystem will bring you some benefits.
Things to note.
If you root the Sammy you will add a 1 to your bootloader counter otherwise known as blowing your efuse chip, you're losing warranty, Samsung will blame anything you have wrong with your phone on this, even if it's completely unrelated, that's a lot of money btw.
With OnePlus it's reversible, Sammy is not.
And let's have it right,, it's a Samsung, there's a lot to dislike, If it's the exynos version, lol you've just bought a turd, it's not even the same phone as the US / south Korean version.
If it were me in your situation i would go with the 9 pro, cameras are superb, the device will make more of the processor / GPU that the Sammy will for sure, dual SIM, probably faster 5G, lighter OS, quicker updates, much better community on XDA, more custom ROMs, better kernels, better screen, faster screen, better audio, better gaming, the list goes on and on.
Keep in mind the S21 and S21+ have display issues as well, but it's software based. Samsung calibrated the displays horribly, where Vivid is WAY oversaturated, and Natural is washed out and dull. The Ultra doesn't have the issue, nor does any model of the S20, outside of the S20 FE.
The FE, S21 and S21+ are STILL waiting for fixes, been this way since release for all of them.
I have a spare S21 I'm debating selling to get an 8 Pro, but I'm really hesitant simply based on size and OP's update/software/general issues.
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Keep in mind the S21 and S21+ have display issues as well, but it's software based. Samsung calibrated the displays horribly, where Vivid is WAY oversaturated, and Natural is washed out and dull. The Ultra doesn't have the issue, nor does any model of the S20, outside of the S20 FE.
The FE, S21 and S21+ are STILL waiting for fixes, been this way since release for all of them.
I have a spare S21 I'm debating selling to get an 8 Pro, but I'm really hesitant simply based on size and OP's update/software/general issues.
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The vast majority of people who own an 8 pro do not have issues mate.
Software (updates anyway) has been prompt.
Overheating, screen issues etc, every phone has these issues, 99% of people on each phone won't, but that 1% will definitely be vocal and so would I.
Chances are though you won't get a faulty device..
galaxys said:
I've had my Pro 8 for a year with no display or heat issues! It's still a great device with good XDA members support and development! Cheers
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Thanks. So I can get the 8 Pro for $599 + tax, etc. At this price is it worth it even if I only use it for a year? I am coming from the 6T
So I can get the 8 Pro for $599 + tax, etc. At this price, Is it a better phone overall than the the 9?
azsl1326 said:
So I can get the 8 Pro for $599 + tax, etc. Is it a better phone overall than the the 9?
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The 8 Pro had been around for a year which you can read about on this forum. The 9 is still too new to form any final conclusions.... Your choice
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So I can get the 8 Pro for $599 + tax, etc. At this price, Is it a better phone overall than the the 9?
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I would never buy a last gen phone when current is available. That being said the jump from 7 to 8 pro was significant, absolutely nothing wrong with the 7 pro at all, but I just feel that the leap to the 9 pro is more of a tweak.
Improvements mostly all around, but development would be lacking compared to the 8 and 8 pro until it gathers speed, knowing the OnePlus community it will pick up. Devs will move on to it.
The choice for me would be obvious but that's me.
CPU and GPU on the 9 are superior, no amount of tweaks will combat that difference.
8 Pro is the best from the 8 series. 8T is 6 months newer than 8 pro, but not as good.
9 is one year newer, so you got 1 year plus at the updates. But if you want the best buy 9 pro. Again the best in series.
NO, absolute NO to Samsung ! The best phone at Bloatware !
azsl1326 said:
Hello All,
I am upgrading my 6T and trying to get some feedback regarding if the 8 Pro is still a good value a year later and worth buying. I know that there are 2 newer OnePlus phones out there, but just trying to get some feedback. Rooting is important to me and I will typically find a ROM and Kernel I like and stick with it. Obviously, the 9 isn't going to have any support for a while. What about the 8T? Is the 8 Pro a better phone than the 8T?
Thanks, in advance.
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Have you decided which phone you would go for ? I am also thinking about Oneplus 8 pro, 9 and S21+. I am upgrading from OP5T. Please reply me.
emirefek said:
If you are not anti-samsung. I think you should go for Galaxy S21+. I'm not very happy with my OnePlus 8 Pro, saving some money to upgrade Samsung. They disabled photochrome, they are not keeping their promises about software updates. Screens has too many issues, screens are made by Samsung I know but Samsung's RMA is much better. My father was has Galaxy Note 8 and he had screen burn-in and they replaced it under a hour. We just took a burger and they replaced all around chassic and screen of phone after we came back to Samsung Center, living in Turkey btw I'm not sure they have this quick repair service everywhere.
And OnePlus 9 is just scam for me they are slapping Hasselblad brand to everywhere but Hasselblad isn't designed their camera they just calibrated colors at software level. OnePlus phones are really solid in many ways but they are trying to sell their devices same price with Samsung's. I think the only disadvantage of Samsung is they are cutting software updates too soon and some people does not like OneUI much. Btw If you have questions about 8Pro I can answer them I'm still using it.
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Oneplus 8 Pro has a better larger sensor than the S21+
vvt4994 said:
Have you decided which phone you would go for ? I am also thinking about Oneplus 8 pro, 9 and S21+. I am upgrading from OP5T. Please reply me.
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I got the 8pro. Great phone. Not a huge fan of the curved display, but that's my only complaint. Love the phone. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I did get a used like new 9 Pro which is awesome so far!
The 8 Pro is still a beast even after a year!
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Have you decided which phone you would go for ? I am also thinking about Oneplus 8 pro, 9 and S21+. I am upgrading from OP5T. Please reply me.
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Looks like the 8 Pro isn't for sale anymore in the US on OnePlus.com