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The well known TyTN/HERMES Screen Alignement problem and the black P3600/Trinity peeling off (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287713) revealed us the weakness of HTC service in Italy.
Many users are waiting MONTHS to have a Qtek back (not always repaired, sometimes they haven't parts), still unclear even IF and WHO has italian warranty, no on line service at all (just e-mail but in english only), no way to understand IF an HOW the updates wil be delivered to the customers.
Italian thread is here:
http://www.solopalmari.com/smf/index.php/topic,13567.0.html
We are looking for users to sign a petition to ask a roadmap to increase the quality of HTC service in Italy (to have it at the DELL or HP handheld standard, we are HANDHELD owners more than cellular phones owners and we put OUR BUSINESS on It) here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/solopalm/petition.html
International users I am not expert in other countries HTC service but if I look to the HTC website, I see no real on line services at all, not even gadgets (like HTC Xbutton).
Post sales service is a MUST for those high end (and high price) devices and the better customer is... your customer, take care of him! If you understand italian help us to establish a new standard for HTC post sales services, if they could do in Italy in many other EU countries will be easier!
Moderators, this message could be sticky for a while? We had the same privilege here: http://www.solopalmari.com/smf/index.php/board,31.0.html as help to the HERMES/TRINITY comunity
Customer respect is simply not taken into account in Italy. 50% is our fault.
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Customer respect is simply not taken into account in Italy. 50% is our fault.
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I agree, I lived enought time in Europe to believe that this is a thing we HAVE to change. Just telling them it LOUD: GIVE US POST SALES SERVICE OR WE WILL STOP BUYNG YOUR DEVICES!
We have to learn to buy from companies giving us the service needed for toys were we would like to put big part of our business! (if you are a re-seller, if you are a company planning to use WM5 devices, if you are a developer, if you are a self-employed, even if you are a student or a scientist you choose tu put your business on those device!)
And INTERNET is a strong enviromnent were to explain this, you are not alone. We are telling to new customers THIS WAS MY EXPERIENCE, could be yours next time. We don't want HTC stopping his business, we would like HTC listening US!.
Hey, HTC, tell us how you solved (IF solved) TyTN SA bug, tell us if only the first release of TRINITY is a "black onion", peeling off the black coating, SWAP faulty devices (even with USED one), give us next day pick up service, 12 months swap service. WE (companies) WILL PAY FOR THIS, WE (retailers) WILL SELL THIS, WE (customers) WILL CHOSE.
Weeks (and NOT months) for service (warranty or not). Those are so-called HANDhelds because they are in HANDS and from hands to the floor the road is short! Then? No service! not from device, from HTC! This was our experience.
111 signers, also from europe and increasing. Thanks for supporting us and please, post everywere the link at the petition...
Io sono fra quelli! ekkekkappero!
Raga ma sta rom in ita quando diavolo esce?ma almeno dalla vodafone non si può avere?Magari uscisse HTC!!!
Oggi ho parlato con HTC e mi hanno detto che hanno rimandato l' uscita del rom in data ancora oggi da destinarsi.
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Oggi ho parlato con HTC e mi hanno detto che hanno rimandato l' uscita del rom in data ancora oggi da destinarsi.
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Per favore, se leggete l'ingese scriviamo in Inglese (o in due lingue) almeno le nostre proteste arrivano in tutta europa ed anche meglio alle orecchie di HTC inghilterra!
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If you read english please write in English too (or in both languages). This way our protest will reach all Europe and will reach better the HTC ears in UK
Hi
I am french but leaving in Italy for Business.
And I really can say that HTC customer service is a BULLSHITT !!!
No answer to the mail, nothing interesting on their "site".
What a shame for a such expensive device !!!
Come si dice in italiano: Bastardi, defficienti...e per finire pezzi di merda !
Eric
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rickiri69 said:
Hi
I am french but leaving in Italy for Business.
And I really can say that HTC customer service is a BULLSHITT !!!
No answer to the mail, nothing interesting on their "site".
What a shame for a such expensive device !!!
Come si dice in italiano: Bastardi, defficienti...e per finire pezzi di merda !
Eric
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Olè!
rickiri69 said:
Hi
I am french but leaving in Italy for Business.
And I really can say that HTC customer service is a BULLSHITT !!!
No answer to the mail, nothing interesting on their "site".
What a shame for a such expensive device !!!
Come si dice in italiano: [ not usefull for discussion ]
Eric
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Please I know quite well how to say in italian "bad customer service" but we are trying to IMPROVE the service and bad words aren't useful for this.
WORDS, posted everywere, will provide more pain,the REAL pain, in the pockets, in the bank account, the shareholders will become angry... so WORDS, telling the situation everywere are our strenght!
How do I understand if my HTC has the screen alignment problem??
I just purchased an HTC device (s-n: HTC647xxxx) and I would like to know how can I recognize if my device has the screen alignment problem. The only problem I discovered is that TomTom 6 is not compatible it crashes every time I run it. Please let me know.
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Please I know quite well how to say in italian "bad customer service" but we are trying to IMPROVE the service and bad words aren't useful for this.
WORDS, posted everywere, will provide more pain,the REAL pain, in the pockets, in the bank account, the shareholders will become angry... so WORDS, telling the situation everywere are our strenght!
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sorry
I was a litlle bit fed up
see you
iangil said:
I just purchased an HTC device (s-n: HTC647xxxx) and I would like to know how can I recognize if my device has the screen alignment problem. The only problem I discovered is that TomTom 6 is not compatible it crashes every time I run it. Please let me know.
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Using search in this forum (or also if you aren't familiar with english, in www.solopalmari.com forum, in italian)
THIS was the aswer to our requests from HTC EUROPE:
Is in Italian, but basically they said, "(...) we are committed to the best service since our direct presence into italian market and we are building and improving day by day our post sales support (...) Since DECEMBER (Great since OUR petition) we gave to Prima Comunicazione service to those customers having buyed their phone from Dangaard e E-Motion (ONLY THOSE? WHO KNOWS IF A PRODUCT COMES FROM DANGARD OR E-MOTION?)
You can for futher inquiry contact http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_email.html or use the call center 02-36003221, available from 08.00 to 18.00, MON-FRI"
They haven't read our requests or may be they don't know the answer... EXPANSYS Phones? E-Motion Updates? Service levels? Web support? Files, gadget, HTC club, on line community?
This seem a standard letter no thanks for chosing HTC, no real answers, they change the Provider is the same used for nokia... check nokia service in Italy
They have to learn A LOT and they would use our money to learn....
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ORIGINAL NOTE
Alcuni approfondimenti sul servizio di assistenza HTC Italia.
A seguito di segnalazioni di disservizi nell’assistenza post vendita pervenute da alcuni clienti finali, HTC rilascia la seguente nota per chiarire il proprio impegno nel fornire un esemplare servizio di assistenza alla clientela.
Fin dall’ingresso sul mercato italiano, dalla seconda metà del 2006, HTC si impegnata a costruire il proprio supporto post vendita e a migliorarlo in corso d’opera, per rispondere alle richieste dei propri clienti.
Infatti, a partire dall’inizio del mese di dicembre 2006 HTC ha affidato a Prima Comunicazione SpA la gestione del servizio post vendita dei prodotti a marchio HTC venduti in Italia. È responsabilità di HTC e Prima Comunicazione soddisfare le richieste di assistenza a quei clienti che hanno comprato direttamente un prodotto a marchio HTC da uno dei due distributori ufficialmente riconosciuti: Dangaard e E-Motion.
HTC prende in seria considerazione tutti i reclami e assicura che ogni problematica esistente verrà gestita individualmente.
Ogni utente che richieda un supporto post vendita o upgrade del software può contattare HTC all'indirizzo http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_email.html o chiamare il call center al numero di telefono 02-36003221, disponibile dalle ore 08.00 alle ore 18.00, dal lunedì al venerdì".
You can't really compare the backbone of Nokia and HTC. Nokia have been in the market, selling and supporting their own devices for years and years. HTC have only been supporting their own devices since July 2006. It will take time for them to refine their support system, change and edit their structure to suit customer demand.
Don't get me wrong! It sounds as though you are having a poor time of things, and I beleive that the nature of your "attack" on HTC will improve the quality of service and support for all... but I fear this will take many more months to address.
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You can't really compare the backbone of Nokia and HTC. Nokia have been in the market, selling and supporting their own devices for years and years. HTC have only been supporting their own devices since July 2006. It will take time for them to refine their support system, change and edit their structure to suit customer demand.
Don't get me wrong! It sounds as though you are having a poor time of things, and I beleive that the nature of your "attack" on HTC will improve the quality of service and support for all... but I fear this will take many more months to address.
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You 've got the point: Nokia is supporting and selling PHONES since years.
HTC is selling ICT, as Top HANDHELDS (targeted for business).
I paid a LOT of euro to have a tool for my business, as my PC, as my car, and I am expecting adequate services level. If I need a just a phone I never will buy HTC!
And this is the message to everybody and the lesson learned fron Italian experience: don't trust HTC if you need Windows Mobile Phones for business , at least until they grow-up from "children" to adult, (and with THEIR money and not with mine!)
HTC do u need some help? we are here!
I'm a (unhealthy) hard user of touch2/mega as a (job) phone device (about 50-100 calls/day) and for a while I decided to use only wired headsets(for a kind of some protection[?] against radio waves bla, bla whatever..), but for some (un)known reasons I cannot use a headset for more than 1-2 months. Let me explain this:
1. first (original) headset after 1 1/2 months lost for good;
2. second an original iphone(it costs only 25 eur from orange RO, almost a toy in a bad way of speaking, I will never use one again) unusable after 2 months because of lack of reliability(microswitch dead, no way to answer to a call);
3. third a hama headset(for only 15 eur the worst like call quality) after 2 months one headspeaker dead and microswitch messing around annoyingly often;
4. fourth (again) a htc headset from tattoo (bargain price 13 eur), very good quality, unusable after 1 month because of low audible signal, distorted audio signal in/out.
So, considering I cannot use (for reasons of compatibility, I've tried so many headsets nokia, even some htc older models, & others, no success so far) any kind of stereo headset with 3.5mm jack, here is my question:
where the heck I can buy a reasonable priced wired headset (preferrable a genuine htc, no bluetooth)) compatible with my Touch2/Mega (and of course in RO)?
Thx a lot, any suggestion is welcome!
poti incerca sanheiser
ady_uaic said:
poti incerca sanheiser
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You could try sanheiser.
Multam, o sa am in vedere:Sennheiser!
Momentan am rezolvat:un headset de samsung omnia 2(sa vedem si cat rezista, merge brici!).
Thx, I'll consider it:Sennheiser!
For the moment it's done: a genuine samsung omnia 2 headset for only 12eur(let see how longer resists, works like a charm!)
bib*oops said:
Multam, o sa am in vedere:sennheiser!
Momentan am rezolvat:un headset de samsung omnia 2(sa vedem si cat rezista, merge brici!).
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salut, unde ai gasit si la ce pret?
la mine e firul cred intrerupt, am incercat o pereche de nokia, dar nu merg castile...
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Se pare ca cea mai bunã sursã e pe la samsarii(dealerii) de telefoane, de preferinţã mici, cã ãia mari n-au timp de "prostii".
Ce-am descoperit compatibil:
1. iphone orig.(se aud binişor,fiabilitate micã);
2. omnia2(se aud bine,par mai solide, 50 ron);
3. alte modele htc(tattoo,diamond şi probabil orice model mai nou cu jack3,5mm);
4. modele aftermarket(hama,sennheiser,etc),sunt mai scumpe,ai garanţie;
În principiu ar cam trebui sa meargã dela (aproape) orice model cu ieşire audio jack de 3,5mm, modele mai noi, cu procesoare peste 400-500Mhz, gen htc,sony,samsung,acer,motorola,etc.
Nu am idee de nokia, ce am încercat nu merge!
Indiferent de unde cumpãraţi, încercaţi-le temeinic: muzicã, convorbiri(preluâri apeluri,întreruperi apeluri) ptr. cã s-ar putea sã aveţi surprize neplãcute, mai ales dacã nu sunt din magazin!
Preţul (decent) ar trebui sã fie de 40-65 ron, dar în magazin pot sã ajungã lejer şi la 150 ron.
Eu prefer, dacã pot, sã iau dela dealerii mãrunţi, cu care poţi negocia direct şi care oricum sunt mai flexibili şi mai serviabili, cu condiţia sã aibã ce-ţi trebuie!
Baftã, cã aveţi nevoie!
It seems best source is little(independent/unofficial) phone dealers, 'cause the big ones are too busy for this kind of sh.t.
Discovered like compatible, so far:
1. genuine iphone(good audio quality, but unreliable because of microswitch);
2. genuine samsung omnia2(good audio quality, looks solid built);
3. other genuine htc models(tatto, diamond & probably any newer models with 3.5mm jack);
4. aftermarket models(hama, sennheiser, etc) are more expensive, but under warranty.
IMO it should work from (almost) any newer models with 3.5mm jack audio output, with at least 400-500Mhz processors, like htc, sony, samsung, acer, motorola, etc.
Everything I've tried from nokia didn't work for me!
No matter where you buy it, test it right: music, controls(in call, off call, etc), 'cause you may have unpleasant surprises after buying, especially for non-authorised dealers acquisitions.
A decent price would be 10-15 eur, but for authorised dealers it may raise to 40eur.
I preffer small dealers, 'cause you can negociate and they are more receptive&flexible, as long as they have what you need.
So good luck, 'cause you'll need it!
@LtBlue
Satisfied?
poti sa`mi dai ceva detalii despre telefon ,acu am un htc tytn 2 si as vrea sa`mi iau touch 2 ,apropo de casti .... eu am luat un kit original de htc de la un tip ,se aude perfect merg tastele ,deja are un an ,singura problema e ca s-a rupt clestele cu care`l prindeam de haina (ce`i drept nici nu prea am avut eu grija sa nu se rupa)
si revenind la touch 2 ,cum se misca windowsu ? e ok ?
INCLUDE ENGLISH !!! I'm FROM BULGARIA with almost the same problem ! it would be great to hear something about it but in ENGLISH ! Otherwise i can talk in Bulgarian , ето така / Just like that .... !!!!!!!!!!!!
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INCLUDE ENGLISH !!! I'm FROM BULGARIA with almost the same problem ! it would be great to hear something about it but in ENGLISH ! Otherwise i can talk in Bulgarian , ето така / Just like that .... !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, ok...I'll translate it to you a.s.a.p....
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poti sa`mi dai ceva detalii despre telefon ,acu am un htc tytn 2 si as vrea sa`mi iau touch 2 ,apropo de casti .... eu am luat un kit original de htc de la un tip ,se aude perfect merg tastele ,deja are un an ,singura problema e ca s-a rupt clestele cu care`l prindeam de haina (ce`i drept nici nu prea am avut eu grija sa nu se rupa)
si revenind la touch 2 ,cum se misca windowsu ? e ok ?
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Touch2 e ok, eu sunt multumit de el (ca telefon de serviciu e cel mai bun), o sa vezi ca e altceva decat tytn, e mai compact, mai usor(e adevarat ca nu are full qwerty), tine la tavaleala(l-am trantit de vreo cateva ori si n-are nici pe dracu'), in functie de ROM-ul folosit se misca bine spre f.bine (ptr. procesoru' lui)...
Si cleste ptr. headset poti folosi dela aproape orice marca...
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Power Race 2.0 App bay, a new contest for developers bay
It 's been a little less than a year since the bay Developer Challenge when he won the Little Sailor application, winning the ultimate prize of no less than $ 300.000. On that occasion, the prize money was made available was $ 2,700,000, of which $ 2,400,000 was divided among several programmers who were classified in various categories of the competition.
Given the moderate success of the event, Samsung has decided to propose a new Developer Challenge, this time, will win a prize even richer and more equal to $ 3,000,000.
end of this year. The various steps of the challenge should be completed by the end of March 2012, and then announce the winners on the last day of April 2012.
As soon as the contest will be announced publicly, you will find more information on the official website of the developers bay:
developer.bada.com
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bada 2.0 Power App Race, un nuovo concorso per sviluppatori bada
E’ passato poco meno di un anno dall’ultimo bada Developer Challenge in cui vinse l’applicazione Little Sailor, aggiudicandosi il premio finale di ben $300,000. In quell’occasione, il montepremi totale messo a disposizione era stato di $2,700,000, di cui $2,400,000 era stato suddiviso tra i vari programmatori che si erano classificati nelle varie categorie del concorso.
Visto il discreto successo dell’evento, Samsung ha quindi deciso di riproporre un nuovo Developer Challenge che, questa volta, metterà in palio un montepremi ancora più ricco e pari a $3,000,000.
fine di quest’anno. I vari step del challenge dovrebbero terminare entro la fine di Marzo 2012, per poi annunciare i vincitori l’ultimo giorno di Aprile 2012.
Non appena il contest sarà annunciato pubblicamente, troverete maggiori informazioni sul sito ufficiale degli sviluppatori bada:
developer.bada.com
BADA 1.2 /BADA 2.0
Sports GPS off-line
Gps navigator off-line
VOIP
PDF
Open office
browser
email management
emulators
streaming
Donwload menager
Internet Applications
Chat
Hot sexy
PROGRAMS videos, photos
etc.
I guess Samsung does just about everything now to pull developers on their site to develop apps for Bada 2.0, let`s hope that useful apps will finally make their way into the market since the Android port project seems to be kind of dead for now.
Hello ,
i want to buy the Imacwear M7. But i only find it with Andoid 4.2 to buy. If i would buy that smartwatch, can i easily update the Android Version to 4.4.? Sorry for my bad Englisch, i am from Germany
Perhaps someone can help me here?
i am interested in that kind of smartwatch, because its waterproof and i can wear it during raining if i go to make sport.
gragry said:
Hello ,
i want to buy the Imacwear M7. But i only find it with Andoid 4.2 to buy. If i would buy that smartwatch, can i easily update the Android Version to 4.4.? Sorry for my bad Englisch, i am from Germany
Perhaps someone can help me here?
i am interested in that kind of smartwatch, because its waterproof and i can wear it during raining if i go to make sport.
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Google Imacwear M702 its the 2Gen of this watch and there is no support I've came across yet other than the thread I started.
I understand, but what is the different between the first and second Gen. Only Android and the watch is more expensive as the first Gen.?
Why not buy from chinavision? They have v2 for 159 USD.
Does anyone have a imacwear M7 manual to share? The M7 is not accepting my sim card and I am not sure of the correct procedure. Please advise the procedure to insert the sim card. I place the metal downwards, however, the slot might be too big and needs padding.
There's a thread for the imacwear M7, you guys.
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Connect Imacwear M7
Hello There,
can be the imacwear M7 because even without simcard so the smartphone connect the calls and SMS arrive ?
and Whatsapp
my English is soo bad... sorry
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Google Imacwear M702 its the 2Gen of this watch and there is no support I've came across yet other than the thread I started.
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Meu IMacwear M7 entrou em loop infinito, como entrar em recuperação com o relógio IMacwear M7 desligado? Como se fosse um celular??
So like a month ago my cellphone was stolen (A Samsung Galaxy A8 which I miss deeply :'( ) and now i'm using my old phone which is a Moto G4 Play. Given that I find it quite "slow" in comparison to my A8 I'm already looking for a replacement phone. I'm considering buying a LG G4 because I came across an AliExpress seller who sells LG G4s for like 60 bucks (refubrished) and another seller from eBay sells it "new" (theorically) for $ 100. The thing is there is no phone with specs like the G4 for that kind of money (correct me if I'm wrong) but I already know all of the problems that can affect G4s so I'm not entirely convinced. So...
- If I buy one nowadays, is it probable I might get affected by bootloops ?
- How are the thermals with this phone? I read many cases of the phone overheating, is this common to every G4?
- How's development going right now? Are there any Pie roms being developed? (I'm looking specially for LineageOS 16)
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Naw its too old now
Hola amigo no sé si puedas entender español pero en mi opinión si vale la pena (y más con ese precio) los puntos buenos son:
Fluidez
cámara
Pantalla (es muy bonita) y además pienso que el diseño es muy elegante
y lo malo de este celular es la batería (3000 mha para una pantalla 2k es ridículo y con suerte llegarás a 3 horas de pantalla, yo en lo personal tengo dos baterías y cargo las dos y me duran el día exacto (a veces un poquito más) jugando pubg y viendo youtube, por cierto ese juego lo corre muy bien
y respecto a roms yo estoy en la stock 7.0 y me anda muy bien todo, con lo del bootloop tienes que destapar el teléfono, retirar la batería y ver en un papel que trae pegado la parte donde dice S/N Si empieza con el número 6xxxxxx o 7xxxx no te preocupes esos modelos no tienen bootloop
pero si es de 5xxxx e inferior esos tarde o temprano dan bootloop
PD: La cámara es sensacional, le gana a muchos gama media y se codea con algunos gama media alta
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So like a month ago my cellphone was stolen (A Samsung Galaxy A8 which I miss deeply :'( ) and now i'm using my old phone which is a Moto G4 Play. Given that I find it quite "slow" in comparison to my A8 I'm already looking for a replacement phone. I'm considering buying a LG G4 because I came across an AliExpress seller who sells LG G4s for like 60 bucks (refubrished) and another seller from eBay sells it "new" (theorically) for $ 100. The thing is there is no phone with specs like the G4 for that kind of money (correct me if I'm wrong) but I already know all of the problems that can affect G4s so I'm not entirely convinced. So...
- If I buy one nowadays, is it probable I might get affected by bootloops ?
- How are the thermals with this phone? I read many cases of the phone overheating, is this common to every G4?
- How's development going right now? Are there any Pie roms being developed? (I'm looking specially for LineageOS 16)
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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First thing that came up my mind... ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7fCQlUhj0
It's just not worth it, many G4's have or will eventually get all kinds of problems.
You are better of with trying to save some money and buy a newer device.
The LG G4 never had good thermal performance to begin with and some G4's seem to perform worse than other at that regard.
Development is going slow since there aren't many Dev's interested in this device an many who where are long gone and moved to other devices.
At the moment there isn't any Pie ROM available to flash.
Hope this answers all your questions.
Well its a curious thing you ask.....
No.
Ebay sellers and the Ali Express are likely the same. person....
I have tried 4 of them.... and .................
Ive given up. As the phone is no longer supported. Youre stuck rooting and unlocking the bootloader.......not hard thankyou to @steadfasterX.
However you may miss some functionality..... like the radio (very important for me). I wish I could figureout the flashing of the different ROMS, as I think theres some very smart work still going on for this phone, albeit, its all experimental. None of it, will ever bring the phone back to the forefront of performance, just keep it "current", with Oreo. Im not sure how close to Pie being stable the phone is.
As for buying it from an ebay seller. I will tell you they are rebuilt, also known as a frankenphone.... Are they an 815? Who knows.
I have 1 of the 4 working, but it gets very very hot (CPUZ says 80C) when taking photos.....I had wanted a phone to take ultra long time lapse with (with an 8000mah battery), but......it shuts off after 3 hours of overheating. But itll do standy for about 3 weeks...lol. basically its an advanced alarm clock now.
I have 2 that never got into use, as they got stuck in a boot loop very early in my ownership (one, never turned on, just smoked in my hand)
1 Ive never opened.....just dont care anymore...
All of this makes me wonder how they got into market. I am still using my LGG3, as i was hoping to upgrade...but then my LG Tab III had a similar issue, hot cpu..... Ive come to the conclusion that LG shouldnt be in business with electronics... I see more vids on youtube about issues w LG phones than any other. But maybe Im just jaded.....YMMV
so the problem with this phone in general is build quality... it's a pity because spec-wise the phone is still kind of "up-to-date". I guess that's why they are so cheap in eBay and AliExpress. I mean i kind of already knew that they were rebuilt, but I was hoping they wouldn't have this bootloop issue (For what @Vishnuisgod says that might still be a problem) . Considering it's price, maybe the quality issues this phone have are the reason why they are so cheap
@ lcorado gracias por la informacion para identificar si fue afectado o no por el bootloop, pero la verdad es que no se si me quiero arriesgar comprando algo que tiene muchisimas posibilidades de fallar. Voy a pasar en esta (thanks for the information you provided to identify if it was affected or not by the bootloop, but the truth is that I do not know if I want to risk buying something that has a lot of chances to fail, i might pass on this one)
PS: do you have in mind any "old" phone I could buy as new online, that is sub u$s 100 ?
rodrigian said:
so the problem with this phone in general is build quality... it's a pity because spec-wise the phone is still kind of "up-to-date". I guess that's why they are so cheap in eBay and AliExpress. I mean i kind of already knew that they were rebuilt, but I was hoping they wouldn't have this bootloop issue (For what @Vishnuisgod says that might still be a problem) . Considering it's price, maybe the quality issues this phone have are the reason why they are so cheap
@ lcorado gracias por la informacion para identificar si fue afectado o no por el bootloop, pero la verdad es que no se si me quiero arriesgar comprando algo que tiene muchisimas posibilidades de fallar. Voy a pasar en esta (thanks for the information you provided to identify if it was affected or not by the bootloop, but the truth is that I do not know if I want to risk buying something that has a lot of chances to fail, i might pass on this one)
PS: do you have in mind any "old" phone I could buy as new online, that is sub u$s 100 ?
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nexus 5/6?
rodrigian said:
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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elephone A6 Mini?
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32974157055.html
@Vishnuisgod Nexus 5/6 are quite old as well and, correct me if i'm wrong, but spec-wise they lag behind to what's "usable" nowadays.
@obvious never heard of that brand. The thing with these chinese phones are that development isn't always on par with more important brands, and for me, being able to update my phone past it's "age" that's a very important thing
rodrigian said:
@Vishnuisgod Nexus 5/6 are quite old as well and, correct me if i'm wrong, but spec-wise they lag behind to what's "usable" nowadays.
@obvious never heard of that brand. The thing with these chinese phones are that development isn't always on par with more important brands, and for me, being able to update my phone past it's "age" that's a very important thing
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Im still using an LGG3... it lags behind doesnt it, theres guys who swear by an LGG2.... dont get picky, up until 2 years ago I was using my Nokia 6500Classic. It did very thing I needed except gps....you know for a $200 (to $250)you can get a new phone that is a huge bargain, without all the worries about if its current. Check out some of the Nokia offerings, or Motorola (who seem to be kicking ass in the budget segment). If you cant afford $200 then you likely cant afford $100, so your point is moot....
rodrigian said:
So like a month ago my cellphone was stolen (A Samsung Galaxy A8 which I miss deeply :'( ) and now i'm using my old phone which is a Moto G4 Play. Given that I find it quite "slow" in comparison to my A8 I'm already looking for a replacement phone. I'm considering buying a LG G4 because I came across an AliExpress seller who sells LG G4s for like 60 bucks (refubrished) and another seller from eBay sells it "new" (theorically) for $ 100. The thing is there is no phone with specs like the G4 for that kind of money (correct me if I'm wrong) but I already know all of the problems that can affect G4s so I'm not entirely convinced. So...
- If I buy one nowadays, is it probable I might get affected by bootloops ?
- How are the thermals with this phone? I read many cases of the phone overheating, is this common to every G4?
- How's development going right now? Are there any Pie roms being developed? (I'm looking specially for LineageOS 16)
Any more suggestion would be greatly appreciated. I really like this phone but If you think buying it nowadays is a bad decision, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
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buy xiaomi instead.. say redmi note7 pro
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3389658/lg-upgrade-letdown.html
its a common theme around the net, as i scroll endlessly, I see things about LG that are bad; warranty issues that are dismissed (fridges), TV's that have glitches.... Im encouraging all ppl I know to shy away from LG.