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Hi all,
First , i'm french , so my english is maybe bad at moment...
So , i see that with the cyanogen mod , we can use wiimotecontroller to pair Wiimote with SGS2. but with touchwizz it's impossible (i'm with revolution rom..)
Someone try to take "bluetooth" files of cyano (with permissions of course) to try it on touchwizz ? or all the system block it ? thanks ..
Blue.
I wish this would happen too, but I don't think it will anytime soon.
And why would someone want to use wiimote with am android device. Could you give practical examples? I have a wii but I dont know what to do with the remote on my android
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Emulators. They play amazingly on the SGS2!
Can you imagine having everything on your phone, your favourite classic games, and you are just bored waiting around for a flight for example? Can just take out the SGS2 and Wiimote to kill some time, perfect.
Or if you have an MHL cable, hook it up for TV, and play. Better than packing up a whole console to take around with you (for example to a friends place) than having everything almost perfectly playable on your SGS2.
jpxdude +10 ! i play to Secret of mana (a old game i have on Snes) and with a wiimote , i can have a better gaming experience
Once one of the AOSP roms is ready you'll be able to link up ps3 or wiimotes to your hearts content. Not long now... Could always load the tw launcher in if you really miss it
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The issue isn't Touchwiz but the bluetooth stack which Samsung (and HTC) use doesn't support the method of pairing to the Wiimotes, where as the Cyanogen which is based on AOSP does.
The only option would be to flash an AOSP based rom.
This will be genial... Im waiting a stable pt br rom with this function
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Yeah, instead of the Sixaxis use the Wiimote. But I doubt that, because of the different Bluetooth protocol?
artesea said:
The issue isn't Touchwiz but the bluetooth stack which Samsung (and HTC) use doesn't support the method of pairing to the Wiimotes, where as the Cyanogen which is based on AOSP does.
The only option would be to flash an AOSP based rom.
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Arf , i don't really like cyanogen or any AOSP rom .. i want to keep my Revolution roms :'( , there is no solution to changes files in systems ?
cyanogenmod doesn't have bluetooth support of any kind yet, so we'll just have to wait.
smaskell said:
cyanogenmod doesn't have bluetooth support of any kind yet
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Yes it does.
smaskell said:
cyanogenmod doesn't have bluetooth support of any kind yet, so we'll just have to wait.
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I try my wiimote on .. it's works !!!! (the wiimote is detect and butons too ..)
How did you do it?
Why not just use said emulators on a PC that has a Bluetooth card installed? It would make more sense. I'd rather not use a controller on a device that I need to play close to my face to read the text designed to be viewed on a much, much larger display.
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Anyone knows if the leaked ICS are still using Samsung's BT Stack or if they rolled back to the original one?
OniV2 said:
Why not just use said emulators on a PC that has a Bluetooth card installed? It would make more sense. I'd rather not use a controller on a device that I need to play close to my face to read the text designed to be viewed on a much, much larger display.
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Why having a super-phone then?
Omega Frost said:
Why having a super-phone then?
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If you seriously just have this phone for emulators... Wow, just wow.
OniV2 said:
If you seriously just have this phone for emulators... Wow, just wow.
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Lol wow indeed, I never said "just for emulators" but nevertheless, if we can have a better experience with the phone (specially for gaming) then why not?
Disadvantage of using an AOSP ROM is no TV-out with MHL support.
FYI, SixAxis Controller works on stock based ROMs. I am on stock XXKI3, and it works... so you can use this in conjunction with MHL out to use ps3 controller (tested; only works with original Sony ps3 controller - knock-off I tried does NOT work) and pipe video out to TV using MHL.
@ctomgee
did u try it out on sgs2?
i heard that sixaxis does not work on sgs2
Gta 3 runs pretty good. It's sometimes laggy even with some GPU acceleration and graphic hacks, but I still love the game
there's already a thread.of this app in the themes and app section so lock this thread plzzz
Was there a question?
And you can use Wii mote to control the game
Just tested myself. The wii mote can be used to play the game (go to the market and get one of the free apps that enable Wii mote sync via Bluetooth)
The game runs perfect
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Was there a question?
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Honey Badger don't care, he just posts what he wants to.
dont bother with droid3 he is either a troll or just very bad at english but for some reason he is friends with a whole bunch of devs...
Okay, saw this can be rooted now.
So my questions, desire for advice, are....
1) Would there be a benefit of installing a custom rom?
2) Will installing a custom rom erase necessary programs that will allow the controller to successfully map to the games I want to play?
3) I'm really only get this because I want to use a good PSX emulator that can use the chip's power to use the shaders and give the games a good HD makeover. This should be more than possible with something like this, right? Basically I'm creating a super PSX device + some N64 emulator. My hope is that I can play this games on 1080p on my television, using either the controller that comes with it, or at least my PS3 controller.
4) Would using apps that overclock this device help game performance?
Should I wait to root this when the official MOJO kitkat android update comes out or does it matter?
Thanks for all your advice!
1) Would there be a benefit of installing a custom rom?
For psx emulation, I doubt it.
2) Will installing a custom rom erase necessary programs that will allow the controller to successfully map to the games I want to play?
Again, not really the controller is easy to map as is (at least with the ouya's emulators)
3) I'm really only get this because I want to use a good PSX emulator that can use the chip's power to use the shaders and give the games a good HD makeover. This should be more than possible with something like this, right? Basically I'm creating a super PSX device + some N64 emulator. My hope is that I can play this games on 1080p on my television, using either the controller that comes with it, or at least my PS3 controller.
What you want can be done on the MOJO, just depends on the games.
I haven't tried PSX emulation, but N64 is pushing it- playable but very laggy at least with mupen64plus AE.
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I can confirm NES.emu, SuperGNES, GBC.emu, GBA.emu, DraStic, FPSE, NEO.emu, MD.emu, PCE.emu, SAT.emu, PPSSPP, and SuperN64 (A branch of Mupen64).
All work flawlessly except PPSSPP (doesn't support the D-PAD at the moment, and sound is laggy). Also, DraStic is really wonky because it models the DS touchscreen....Works with a mouse, but that feels strange to use the controller and a mouse....Then again, it's sort of like using a Wii. Heh..
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from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49205879&postcount=6
The mojo's controller is better, the PS3 controller will have to be wired in I think.
The R1/R2 might be only digital and not analog depends on the emulator detection of R1/R2.
4) Would using apps that overclock this device help game performance?
Yes it would, but not sure how playable the games would be.
Should I wait to root this when the official MOJO kitkat android update comes out or does it matter?
It's nice that it can be rooted, but I don't really need it, I'm fine waiting for kitkat, but if you want to overclock then you'll need to root it.
I'll be installing FPSE and SuperN64 soon, I'll let you know how I go :fingers-crossed:
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I'll be installing FPSE and SuperN64 soon, I'll let you know how I go :fingers-crossed:
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Yes, please do!
One last question. You mentioned that the N64 emulator isn't running well on this. Isn't there one on the Ouya??? I could only imagine that on that one, using the much lesser chip (the tegra 3) it would run like crap, if at all.
Im I missing something? Or is this an accurate observation?
SuperN64 is decent, but there really isn't a good N64 emulator at this time. They're all built from the exact same code, just changed the names, really. When one updates, they all seem to update within a few days. My judgement that SuperN64 is flawless has gone out the window because it cannot run Conker at decent speed....One of my all-time favorite games. I still like it, though. From what I've read, I think N64oid is probably a bit less laggy.
Also, I've not tried with it yet (I don't have a cable to root, so I cannot install the mapping software), but the PS3 controller is compatible without needing the cable. It connects with BT, just as it does on tablets or phones.
Pleiades7 said:
Yes, please do!
One last question. You mentioned that the N64 emulator isn't running well on this. Isn't there one on the Ouya??? I could only imagine that on that one, using the much lesser chip (the tegra 3) it would run like crap, if at all.
Im I missing something? Or is this an accurate observation?
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I don't have an ouya but if you youtube ouya's N64 videos you'll see.
The mojo's is playable, overclocking would help but not sure by how much.
I'll do a youtube video of N64 and PSX on mojo
@ExtremeRyno, I'll try Conker tonight using my mupen64plus AE see what FPS I get
How soon until MOJO gets an update and KitKat?
Any idea if this is coming soon?
Any idea on what the update will fix in terms of bugs, etc?
@ExtremeRyno, I tryied Conker using my mupen64plus AE, at 300% it's laggy but not too bad, the sound is messed up tho.
Pretty crappy you have to sit through the intro lol
Anyway I have my settings there so you can see it.
@Pleiades7, I also did some other random games too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGbdTEVF2pw
I couldn't get any of the free PSX emulators working on my iso's.
I'll try again next week and I'll install the other N64 emulators, but I'm pretty happy with mupen.
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3) I'm really only get this because I want to use a good PSX emulator that can use the chip's power to use the shaders and give the games a good HD makeover. This should be more than possible with something like this, right? Basically I'm creating a super PSX device + some N64 emulator. My hope is that I can play this games on 1080p on my television, using either the controller that comes with it, or at least my PS3 controller.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's possible to make PSX games look or perform any better than they did on the original playstation hardware. Emulators are made to best mirror the hardware the games were originally intended to run on. I think that's why some roms wont work or have trouble playing on any emulator for that reason. Sure your playing the games on a 1080p TV through the MOJO, but that doesn't automatically convert the games themselves to HD quality.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's possible to make PSX games look or perform any better than they did on the original playstation hardware. Emulators are made to best mirror the hardware the games were originally intended to run on. I think that's why some roms wont work or have trouble playing on any emulator for that reason. Sure your playing the games on a 1080p TV through the MOJO, but that doesn't automatically convert the games themselves to HD quality.
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I get that. But those games blown up on a big 1080p look pixelated and really show their age anyways.
BUT an emulator like FPse includes OpenGL plugins that redraw the textures and graphics in a way I don't fully understand but transform those games. Just try Twisted Metal 2 on your PS3. Then open up a emulator on your MOJO and play the same game in FPse but turn on the high res open gl plugin. Not only will you feel the difference, but you will swear you are playing a different game. No where was that more apparent than in the Resident Evil Games. Pixelated zombies which might have been novel long ago feel dated now. But those filters on FPse and PCSXreloaded , etc., redraw the monsters in a way that is now thematically coherent and gives the games a fresh coat of paint they always deserved, especially fun considering you couldn't play those games in HD back in the day.
In any case, that's what fun about these things for me. The chance to preserve great games in all their glory and then some.
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I get that. But those games blown up on a big 1080p look pixelated and really show their age anyways.
BUT an emulator like FPse includes OpenGL plugins that redraw the textures and graphics in a way I don't fully understand but transform those games. Just try Twisted Metal 2 on your PS3. Then open up a emulator on your MOJO and play the same game in FPse but turn on the high res open gl plugin. Not only will you feel the difference, but you will swear you are playing a different game. No where was that more apparent than in the Resident Evil Games. Pixelated zombies which might have been novel long ago feel dated now. But those filters on FPse and PCSXreloaded , etc., redraw the monsters in a way that is now thematically coherent and gives the games a fresh coat of paint they always deserved, especially fun considering you couldn't play those games in HD back in the day.
In any case, that's what fun about these things for me. The chance to preserve great games in all their glory and then some.
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I haven't messed around with Fpse that much to realize it can use OpenGL. That's pretty cool, kinda anxious to try it out now
I've got shaders enabled, and it runs just swell. Crash Bandicoot looks great, and games like Wipeout still run at 100%.
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@ExtremeRyno, I tryied Conker using my mupen64plus AE, at 300% it's laggy but not too bad, the sound is messed up tho.
Pretty crappy you have to sit through the intro lol
Anyway I have my settings there so you can see it.
@Pleiades7, I also did some other random games too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGbdTEVF2pw
I couldn't get any of the free PSX emulators working on my iso's.
I'll try again next week and I'll install the other N64 emulators, but I'm pretty happy with mupen.
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@ExtremeRyno Conker is playable at 100% enabling Force 4x MSAA & Force GPU rendering for 2D in developers option.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGajiU6hpPg
Not sure how it effects other android games tho
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@ExtremeRyno Conker is playable at 100% enabling Force 4x MSAA & Force GPU rendering for 2D in developers option.
http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=wGajiU6hpPg
Not sure how it effects other android games tho
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I will check that out this evening. Thanks for the tip.
Just wondering if anyone has tried to install a custom recovery and do a nandroid backup. I didn't know how different this device differs from a phones software.
I don't know, if someone of the developers knows a working way to flash a working custom recovery.
As you can see in the way how the root method works, there seems no other way to get out of bootloader/fastboot mode, as to unplug the USB and power cable.
That means, you can't be simple do "fastboot boot xxx.img" and boot a temporarily kernel or recovery.
I have tried it with some of the kernel/recovery images from Nvidia Shield, but after loading the image, it stucks in bootloader.
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I haven't messed around with Fpse that much to realize it can use OpenGL. That's pretty cool, kinda anxious to try it out now
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SEGA games rock on the MOJO
So just went through the process of setting up my tablet with my ps3 controller and have to say its awesome. I took a few steps that aren't required to be thorough but guiding someone else to do it would be a breeze. Played a few rounds of WoT Blitz and have been much happier with the controller instead of the touch controls. Thank God for "Droid Does"
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So just went through the process of setting up my tablet with my ps3 controller and have to say its awesome. I took a few steps that aren't required to be thorough but guiding someone else to do it would be a breeze. Played a few rounds of WoT Blitz and have been much happier with the controller instead of the touch controls. Thank God for "Droid Does"
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I have tried a couple of games but am put off by there being no way to map the buttons. I used to use sixaxis app to use the ps3 controller on my note 10.1 and although it was a pain in the arse to set up mapped profiles for each game, gameplay was a lot better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6I4nmYkogM
This is what i did for key mapping.
That's what I did on my note 10.1. The whole point of getting the z2 tablet was because it supports ps3 natively. If I've got to use a third party app to use the ps3 controller then I may as well stick to my note as it's a more capable tablet than the z2.
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That's what I did on my note 10.1. The whole point of getting the z2 tablet was because it supports ps3 natively. If I've got to use a third party app to use the ps3 controller then I may as well stick to my note as it's a more capable tablet than the z2.
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Sorry I just saw this, its up to the game developers to enable the controller in their games. I can connect fine through Sony's app, but Sixaxis allows me to play any game even if they don't want controller support.
GandalfTehGray said:
Sorry I just saw this, its up to the game developers to enable the controller in their games. I can connect fine through Sony's app, but Sixaxis allows me to play any game even if they don't want controller support.
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Trouble is to use sixaxis i need to be rooted, which on my note was fine as i always had custom ROMs on all my Samsung devices but I've left my z2 and z2 tablet stock unrooted.
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Trouble is to use sixaxis i need to be rooted, which on my note was fine as i always had custom ROMs on all my Samsung devices but I've left my z2 and z2 tablet stock unrooted.
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There's a few easy workarounds for root on z2, I didn't bother doing a full flash of anything.
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There's a few easy workarounds for root on z2, I didn't bother doing a full flash of anything.
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If i root it i can't use sky go and i use sky go every night.
tuktukscotty said:
If i root it i can't use sky go and i use sky go every night.
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Hmmm root hider apps/ xposed modules can't fix it?
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Hmmm root hider apps/ xposed modules can't fix it?
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No they don't work for some reason.
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No they don't work for some reason.
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Sucks. How do you use it? Sitting at work?
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Sucks. How do you use it? Sitting at work?
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No, I use my tablet to watch tv at night when I go to bed. Can't have tv on in the bedroom because of disturbing my parrot. His cage is in my bedroom and having the tv on wakes him up lol
So Dolphin Team has released Dolphin Emulator Alpha on Google Play:
And there is a Dreamcast Emulator on the Play Store called Reicast:
(XDA wont let me post the links because i'm new. Sorry)
Obviously these emulators run like garbage because it's running on mobile phones. But, the Nexus Player has a pretty decent Intel Processor if i'm not mistaken. I know the software side of things also plays a role in the poor performance, but it's at least worth a shot right?
I'm buying a Nexus Player in the near future, and i'm trying out this idea I have (which i'll show soon), and I was wondering if anyone with a Nexus Player could download those emulators (whether officially or sideloaded) and tell me how it runs. I have some follow-up questions, but those questions won't matter if the Player can't run the emulator, so I want to see before I ask. Thank you
I can confirm that the reicast emulator (latest build) is working well on the nexus player. most games i tried run with fullspeed just tony hawks didnt run really smooth. some minor display errors but very playable.
The only Android device that will properly run the Dolphin emulator at full speed (read: Wii, not GameCube) is the Tegra X1 Shield TV.
the processor of the nexus player is not supported by the dolphin app. it won't even install.
NP
thanks for all the answers guys. Both emulators support 4 player multiplayer, so I feel like there’s a lot of potential here. It's a shame about Dolphin, and I already contacted the devs about it, but the fact that Reicast works is great! I'll reply if Dolphin team ever replies
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I can confirm that the reicast emulator (latest build) is working well on the nexus player. most games i tried run with fullspeed just tony hawks didnt run really smooth. some minor display errors but very playable.
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are you running stock, I cant get it to work on pure nexus rom.
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are you running stock, I cant get it to work on pure nexus rom.
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No, I'm running cm 12.1. Make sure you are using one of the "unsupported builds" from the download page and not the r6 release which is pretty old with no support for the nexus player cpu.
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No, I'm running cm 12.1. Make sure you are using one of the "unsupported builds" from the download page and not the r6 release which is pretty old with no support for the nexus player cpu.
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thanks, I will give cm a try pure nexus would not boot up the newest unsupported build.
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thanks for all the answers guys. Both emulators support 4 player multiplayer, so I feel like there’s a lot of potential here. It's a shame about Dolphin, and I already contacted the devs about it, but the fact that Reicast works is great! I'll reply if Dolphin team ever replies
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How are you guys getting Reicast to work. I can't even get to a point to launch the bios file. It keeps crashing or won't let me launch.
I figured it out and it works! So what I had to do since I don't have a USB hub, I copied the game file and BIOS to my NP and then used a wired mouse to set the directory and click over to the main area. I couldn't do that without a mouse.
running my games off of a 32 gb micro usb and so far they are playable, going to try an otg adapter and a better usb drive over the holidays and see if it gets rid of some stutter.