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Many of us have been following the release of this phone very closely and most hardware questions have been answered by now but what about the front aesthetics? Are the placement of the speakers and size of bezels symmetric in design on top and bottom? After viewing photos and the hands-on videos on YouTube, I'm still unable to 100% discern the differences in the top and bottom bezels. I'm sure this probably isn't much of a big deal to most people (excluding myself) but I'm curious to know.
It's just one of those things that bothered me about my Nexus 6 and the new Moto X Pure Edition. There are probably also very good reasons as to why the bezel designs on those two phones aren't symmetric but then again, is it really that difficult to keep symmetry? I've got mine preordered and am keeping it regardless but it would bother me little. What are your thoughts and does someone have an answer?
I'm with you, I think symmetry adds a lot to the beauty of a phone. The sony xperia line is a good example. The only way to know is - I guess- wait to have one in person..
rubi76 said:
I'm with you, I think symmetry adds a lot to the beauty of a phone. The sony xperia line is a good example. The only way to know is - I guess- wait to have one in person..
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Totally agree.
Most of my Android phones didn't have it except the Note 2, which was one reason why I got it over the S3 in 2012 (which imo has the worst).
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Many of us have been following the release of this phone very closely and most hardware questions have been answered by now but what about the front aesthetics? Are the placement of the speakers and size of bezels symmetric in design on top and bottom? After viewing photos and the hands-on videos on YouTube, I'm still unable to 100% discern the differences in the top and bottom bezels. I'm sure this probably isn't much of a big deal to most people (excluding myself) but I'm curious to know.
It's just one of those things that bothered me about my Nexus 6 and the new Moto X Pure Edition. There are probably also very good reasons as to why the bezel designs on those two phones aren't symmetric but then again, is it really that difficult to keep symmetry? I've got mine preordered and am keeping it regardless but it would bother me little. What are your thoughts and does someone have an answer?
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Not symmetric.
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I'm pretty sure they're symmetrical. The speakers don't look like it though.
I agree. When watching video on anything, I want a symmetric & stereo experience. I hate that my G3 has a drastically different top & bottom bezel. This phone appearing to be symmetrical was a big part of my purchase decision.
symmetrical would definitely add to its beauty and cool looks!
Ehh, the addition of the onscreen navbar zeroed out the difference for me
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Doing a very unscientific experiment (print screened the photo on the product page and copied into MS Paint) the top is 46 pixels and the bottom is 44 pixels. So possibly not symmetrical but very close.... assuming that picture is accurate
Maybe it is just me (i think it is) but i'm not too impressed with the screen. Most reviews are stellar for the screen. when placing it next to my oneplus 2 i actually prefer the oneplus 2. I don't know whether I should RMA and see if a second one is any better or if it is just my mind playing tricks on me. One thing I'm really getting is the coolish hue when you tilt the phone up/down or left/right. I actually prefer my screens cooler. should I RMA or am i expecting something that is fine?
There's a difference in some of the screens, I had to get an rma because of the same issue. My new phone is perfect
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Maybe it is just me (i think it is) but i'm not too impressed with the screen. Most reviews are stellar for the screen. when placing it next to my oneplus 2 i actually prefer the oneplus 2. I don't know whether I should RMA and see if a second one is any better or if it is just my mind playing tricks on me. One thing I'm really getting is the coolish hue when you tilt the phone up/down or left/right. I actually prefer my screens cooler. should I RMA or am i expecting something that is fine?
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What do you actually see then? Can you make a picture of your screen?
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The Nexus 6P has a somewhat warm screen calibration which adheres closely to the target white point of the sRGB standard. The OnePlus 2 has a much cooler calibration. That's just the way it is and if you prefer cooler screens, you will like the OnePlus 2 screen better. That said, if you aren't looking at them side by side and just use the Nexus 6P for a few days, your eyes will start to get used to the warmer white point and it probably won't bother you anymore.
Manufacturers REALLY need to start including a white point / color temperature display setting. This is a setting you will find on nearly every desktop computer monitor, so I have no idea why phone manufacturers are too stupid to add this. I think HTC and OnePlus have actually added a setting for it in recent updates, but Samsung, LG, Motorola, and Google have yet to add the feature. Considering how long it took Google to finally give us a setting to toggle between accurate and vibrant colors, I expect it will take them a couple more years to give us a color temperature setting.
I am most likely going to get the Essential Ph-One, but am wondering what hardware /software keeps people from going full on w/ this new E. Ph-One? Both that the phone has or doesn't and that other manufacturers do,...
I came from a long line of Nexus/Pixel devices but recently switched to the Galaxy S8 a couple of months ago. After experiencing the bezel-less life, I couldn't imagine going back to something that has large bezels like the Pixel/Pixel XL. However, I'd like to get back into something with a more "pure Android" feel. So far the essential phone looks like a very viable option.
I was going to hold out for the 2nd generation of Pixel phones, but leaks from reputable sources are pointing to the smaller Pixel 2 having massive bezels and the larger Pixel XL2 simply being an enormous phone (pushing 6.4" tall). If the rumors about the Pixel line-up are true, neither phone will work for me. From what I've seen so far, the Essential phone is more or less what I was hoping the 2nd generation Pixel would be.
However, with apps and OS features requiring more and more resources, I'm a bit nervous about the 4GB RAM in the Essential phone. I'm also a bit baffled by their decision to go with LCD when the new standard in flagships is AMOLED. I'd understand if the use of LCD was to cut costs and lower the price, but at $700 that logic doesn't hold. Lastly, the initial reviews of the camera are very "meh" with no one being overly impressed with the pictures the Essential phone takes.
Another option I am considering is the OnePlus 5. 6-8GB of RAM, pure Android experience, blazing fast finger print scanner, AMOLED 5.5" screen and a good camera. It also has a headphone jack and while I know that this "feature" is on its way out, I'm just not quite ready to let go if I don't have to. The big downside of this phone is the 2015/2016 size top and bottom bezels. However, OnePlus does make good use of the bottom bezel by putting the finger print scanner/home button and capacitive buttons in that area, which frees up screen space from the on-screen nav bar. Not to mention that it's $160-$230 cheaper than the Essential phone, depending on which model you choose.
To make matters even more confusing, the iPhone 8 is rumored to be announced on September 6th. So at this point I'll probably take some more time to see what that has to offer and evaluate further.
I no longer buy phones from a carrier.
The phone must have a boot loader I can unlock.
I need to "own" my phone. If I can't load any ROM I want, I don't own the phone.
I already bought my Essential PH-1
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Love the fact that they are sticking with the front facing speakers and the notch with thin bezels.
Well for me that's an ugly design... What a mistake with this bloody notch, i prefer a normal bezels and nae notches
misiokicio said:
Well for me that's an ugly design... What a mistake with this bloody notch, i prefer a normal bezels and nae notches
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All is pure speculation, maybe this is not: Google-pixel-3-display-notch-rumors/ or with this . . .
Since P supports notch, that doesn't mean that Pixel 3 will have it. You must take into account that Google will sooner or later request from manufacturers to release monthly security updates, which is good thing btw.
I think we just have to wait and see.
Hopefully, thin or no bezels, no notch, 6gb ram, 845 soc, lalalala...
I'm still with the Pixel XL....if the 3 XL has a notch I'll buy a 2 XL and hope that the 4 XL doesn't have a notch. F notches.
If the Pixel 3 XL has a notch I'm considering switching to Apple because that means even Google is just copying the iPhone
Wasn't the essential phone the first with the notch? Or are my timelines messed up.
Lol.. you can disable the notch on the amoler screens without losing battery, and Apple copied the notch from the Essential phone. I don't mind the notch frankly.
Guess I'll be sticking with the pixel 2 xl for awhile.
The only thing I think I would miss with a notch is the center clock. Other than that I can't see the big deal.
As far as I'm concerned, it's a lazy and uninspired design... I'm not a fan of the notch, but if you're going to use it for some reason, at least don't give your phone a "chin" too.
I'm convinced that notch nonsense is a fad... and I'll wait for a notchless Pixel 4 XL
I too don't see the point of a notch when you'll have that huge chin... Also, this notch seem really deep...
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F the notch
Back to the Samsung Note for me, and bonus Ill be able to get that phone in August. Its a dam shame too, I honestly thought Google had more integrity and innovation up their sleeve than to copy Apple with a trash notch. My money goes to where the innovation is taking place and this notch trend is hot garbage.
I say just keep the pixel 2 XL and wait for the pixel 4. The pixel 2 is not even a year old and we still get two major os updates after Android p. And by that time the technology for full screen displays will be there it's too early in the game for top manufacturers to take the risk and having a device flop due to issues. There are too many complications with senors and cameras to go full on immersive mode. yes the notch is pointless and basically a trend now, but we have to realize every company is going to try to implement it better and try and give us that full screen experience. It's all business at the end of the day, and I'm ok with that but the pixel 2 XL will definitely hold its own until the tech and resources are there to get rid of all bezels. We also have to take these leaks with a grain of salt because we are only heading into June, so we do have at least another 4 months to go designs can always change. Google is smart with there choices and do produce the best phones thus far with minor flaws as far as the screen quality fiasco went. But they are hands down the smoothest experience you will find with Android devices, not so much with design wise. But that's not what's important the longevity and performance that counts.
Love the notch! If the rumors are true then Pixel 3 XL ftw!
Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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This. The notch adds a little bit of screen where there would otherwise be no screen. I'm glad I don't have strong feelings about it. If you've ruled out the phone because it has a notch you are probably being a little (or a lot) too weird about it. The big Pixel 3 will likely be a very nice device. Go with the notch (if it's there). It gives the phone a little something different from the usual rectangular body and rectangular screen - the same old look. I prob didn't change your mind but the P3 will be so awesome. You have 5 months to learn to like the notch.
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I say just keep the pixel 2 XL and wait for the pixel 4. The pixel 2 is not even a year old and we still get two major os updates after Android p. And by that time the technology for full screen displays will be there it's too early in the game for top manufacturers to take the risk and having a device flop due to issues. There are too many complications with senors and cameras to go full on immersive mode. yes the notch is pointless and basically a trend now, but we have to realize every company is going to try to implement it better and try and give us that full screen experience. It's all business at the end of the day, and I'm ok with that but the pixel 2 XL will definitely hold its own until the tech and resources are there to get rid of all bezels. We also have to take these leaks with a grain of salt because we are only heading into June, so we do have at least another 4 months to go designs can always change. Google is smart with there choices and do produce the best phones thus far with minor flaws as far as the screen quality fiasco went. But they are hands down the smoothest experience you will find with Android devices, not so much with design wise. But that's not what's important the longevity and performance that counts.
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You are right about the Pixel phones, they are the best of the android devices. I returned a couple P2XLs d/t display problems then when I got a good one I sold it and bought an S9+. I miss the Pixel, will be all over the next model. I am struggling waiting for the P3, can't comprehend a P4
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Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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This is exactly my view as well. Apple just happened to be one of the companies to introduce the notch but it was not that it was a great/innovative invention as such - it was a compromise. They had to keep some part for the sensors and stuff. So calling other companies adopting a notch as copycats is like telling that all companies earlier had a rectangle screen so everyone was copying that as well - which is stupid. The people who complain would also have complained that Apple is giving higher screen to body ratio compared to Google in case Google didn't adopt the notch.
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Why is everyone *****ing about the notch? Soooo essentially all you are saying is “I want black bars and less screen? The notch ALLOWS more screen real estate. You want two stero speakers, a large screen, minimal bezzles, ect ect... but why don’t you see you get SCREEN in place of black bars?
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Ok, what can be the added screen real estate used for? It cant even show all status bar/notification icons. You cant watch video or look at pictures because it hinders the view. Better solution would be a combination of no bezzels and some kind of smart immersive mode.
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The HUGE notch if it happens will not turn you away from this device. ?
Me I will buy the cheaper and slightly smaller Pixel 3 than live with a huge notch.
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AstroDigital said:
The HUGE notch if it happens will not turn you away from this device. ?
Me I will buy the cheaper and slightly smaller Pixel 3 than live with a huge notch.
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I honestly kinda like the notch, I know that is an unpopular opinion but I do. Its kind of like Google one-upping apple with there notch.
For me I don't find the notch to be ugly but it sure does not look good. That being said I like it more then having the full bar like the non xl version because I find this to be even more ugly. Plus I'd rather have a notch with more screen compared to what the non xl has with less screen.
I still hope it's just prototypes leaking and advertisment for a campaign to collect criticism on the notch to show at launch to stick one up in the air to Apple.
Google has been requesting permission to YouTube users who talked about this phone, to use (some of) their video . The fun fact ? Mostly people who spoke negative about this phone received such requests.
I don't see why they wouldn't chose a pixel 2 look a like housing for prototypes or just a 'blackbox' type body. Everything about this is too sketchy or even hilarious: Pixel 3 phones being sold by 'Russian Maffia', before release ? C'mon ... I truly hope they are messing around. If not, damn, lots of people will need to be replaced for such scandalous leaking. Perhaps, the people who didn't think of using a different body for prototypes will find great joy in being the factual proof that Google's losing its own game.
Since you can hide the notch, and either bump the notifications down to be just like the 3, or hide the notch while keeping the notifications up there, I love the look. Having three options is really great. Gives the user so much control.
you guys still on about this notch ****? imho, this pixel 3 xl is like meeting a super hot girl with ****ed up teeth or has megan fox thumbs ...... either you learn to live with it or just gtfo ... lol
i have accepted the notch just cuz of the features of the front facing cameras and speaker... its not like the big ass notch was put there just for google to laugh in your face... it serves a purpose. For me personally, i'm ok with it. I have a Note 8 and i'm hella sick of that small ass speaker on the bottom... when playing games or watching videos/movies, if my finger covers the speaker, i can't hear **** and it just super annoying. Also, I'm finally gonna get to take groupie shots when hanging out with friends at concerts or take family selfies with my wife and kids AND fit the background in!
SAY IT WITH ME!!!! THAT NOTCH IS SEXY AF!!!!!!
bobbyphoenix said:
Since you can hide the notch, and either bump the notifications down to be just like the 3, or hide the notch while keeping the notifications up there, I love the look. Having three options is really great. Gives the user so much control.
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Can you have all 3 options? It was looking like Google was only going to allow 2 options: Full notch, or completely disabled and everything (status bar included) moved down to below the notch. I would love for the third option: Always having a black bar with time/status, and all my apps below it.
In under an hour I didn't even notice the notch. Different apps simply blended into or around the notch. I admit when I saw the first photos online I thought it was a nasty looking notch. Now I don't even notice it.
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The HUGE notch if it happens will not turn you away from this device. ?
Me I will buy the cheaper and slightly smaller Pixel 3 than live with a huge notch.
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New case launched for Pixel 3 XL
Cristiano Matos said:
New case launched for Pixel 3 XL
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Lol:laugh::laugh::laugh:
The design is great ! You don't notice the notch after a while
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The design is great ! You don't notice the notch after a while
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Let's be honest. The design isn't great at all. In fact pixel 3 xl notch is by far the most ridiculous until now. I'm a pixel user but that notch will never pass as unperceptible.
You can can hide in developer options but you'll end up with the same screen size as pixel 2 xl.
Lack of design perception
Cristiano Matos said:
Let's be honest. The design isn't great at all. In fact pixel 3 xl notch is by far the most ridiculous until now. I'm a pixel user but that notch will never pass as unperceptible.
You can can hide in developer options but you'll end up with the same screen size as pixel 2 xl.
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Well said! I went to a Verizon store the other day just for grins to kill time while the Mrs was shopping, just to see how it looked in person, and if it was worth it to upgrade from my P2XL. Took all of out 30 seconds to say.....HELL NO! That notch was like a .44 mag pointed at my head. Not trying to disparage all the current users, but that notch just ain't my thing!
I love the looks and feels of the device. The notch isn't bad it works well and has function.
The back glass of the phone is ridiculously smooth - sooo soft.
I have the clearly white version and the power button looks very cool
Looks and feels high quality
It's as ugly in person as it looks on the renders. Asymmetric design at its worst. Why HTC can make a nice looking phone, and the HTC team working for Google can't?
Some notch fixes but none that please me
In developers mode, there are some notch settings but none accomplish the obvious.
I am not so worked up as many but I Google could have done better. I think the reason they did not was to let them advertize a larger screen size against iPhone and Samsung. Be that as it may, a reasonable fix for the notch would be to use the notch margin for meta data but retard the image display at the bottom of the notch., rather than "flow" the image up and around the notch.
So, the notch margin should have a black backround and use the left side to diplay notifications and the right side to show battery, times, etc. all in white text. With the black background, the notch is invisible. And since the images start at the base or the notch, they would not be amplifying its existance.
SpringerRider said:
In developers mode, there are some notch settings but none accomplish the obvious.
I am not so worked up as many but I Google could have done better. I think the reason they did not was to let them advertize a larger screen size against iPhone and Samsung. Be that as it may, a reasonable fix for the notch would be to use the notch margin for meta data but retard the image display at the bottom of the notch., rather than "flow" the image up and around the notch.
So, the notch margin should have a black backround and use the left side to diplay notifications and the right side to show battery, times, etc. all in white text. With the black background, the notch is invisible. And since the images start at the base or the notch, they would not be amplifying its existance.
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What is needed in my opinion, is an option for an app specific option for not hiding the notch, and in portrait mode. Apps like fb, messages could be utilized for this.
suzook said:
What is needed in my opinion, is an option for an app specific option for not hiding the notch, and in portrait mode. Apps like fb, messages could be utilized for this.
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I agree that my solution would not be optimum in Landscape but I would still prefer the client display area to be within the tab.
Why did they frost it outside???