Hi, i have a tab s6lite with Oneui 3.1 and android 11
Using an external usb-c hub dex won't connect to my hdmi monitor.
What should i do? Is there something i can do to make it work? Maybe with a rom?
thanks
Hi, I think you have already found the answer, but if anybody else would be looking for it, the answer is simple: unfortunately, Tab S6 lite has only USB 2.0 through the type-C connector, not USB 3.x, as the other S tablets do and as everybody would expect...
It's also unfortunate, that no review is mentioning this...
_smasho_ said:
Hi, i have a tab s6lite with Oneui 3.1 and android 11
Using an external usb-c hub dex won't connect to my hdmi monitor.
What should i do? Is there something i can do to make it work? Maybe with a rom?
thanks
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What model of USB-C hub are you using? When you plug it in, does it mirror to the monitor? If it doesn't, it's likely the hub, not the tablet. Not all of them are compatible with DeX.
Update: After doing some more research, it seems the Tab S6 Lite does not support Mobile HD Link (MHL). You can screen mirror via wireless (ChromeCast or MirrorCast), but DeX won't work.
Since it is hardware level, a custom ROM will not work.
vasek.x1 said:
Hi, I think you have already found the answer, but if anybody else would be looking for it, the answer is simple: unfortunately, Tab S6 lite has only USB 2.0 through the type-C connector, not USB 3.x, as the other S tablets do and as everybody would expect...
It's also unfortunate, that no review is mentioning this...
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Absolutely not true. The Tab S6 Lite is USB 3.x compatible. It is because Samsung didn't include MHL on its Sx Lite line of tablets.
gernerttl said:
Absolutely not true. The Tab S6 Lite is USB 3.x compatible. It is because Samsung didn't include MHL on its Sx Lite line of tablets.
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Well, I expect the Samsung documentation doesn't lie too much: https://www.samsung.com/uk/tablets/galaxy-tab-s/galaxy-tab-s6-lite-blue-128gb-lte-sm-p615nzbebtu.
I also tested the USB speed, which is roughly about 30 MB/s, thus a bit above half of the theoretical limit of USB 2.0. It does not mean the port is not 3.x compatible (= possible to connect to USB 3.x ports...). However, it's really only USB 2.0, like on many cheap phones with type-C connector. And of course, as you have mentioned, MHL was not implemented in S6 lite's USB 2.0 port. If it would be USB 3.x, then it shall have (typically) HDMI-Alternate mode (it is true that there's no standard to this and it can support either HDMI or MHL or DisplayPort or ThunderBolt or neither of these ). And when the manufacturer would think about including MHL in USB 2.0 type-C port, then it makes technically better sense to go with USB 3.2 directly (as it uses the same number of wires and MHL or HDMI would need more hardware anyway and together it will bring more customers )... So that's why mentioning the USB 2.0 in datasheet makes sense and explains quite a lot (without searching for MHL implementation...).
Thanks for the correction. USB 2 is capable of screen mirroring. It needs MHL though.
_smasho_ said:
Hi, i have a tab s6lite with Oneui 3.1 and android 11
Using an external usb-c hub dex won't connect to my hdmi monitor.
What should i do? Is there something i can do to make it work? Maybe with a rom?
thanks
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there's some cables that use screencast over wire sounds a bit strange but it works relatively good, better than cast itself look at this:
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Hello,
my screen supports MHL out of the box - a cable followed along with it.
Do I really have to buy the S4 MHL Adapter for getting it to work?
EDIT:
Thanks for answers! Looks like it requires 11PIN MHL
ColdIce23 said:
Hello,
my screen supports MHL out of the box - a cable followed along with it.
Do I really have to buy the S4 MHL Adapter for getting it to work?
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You will need a MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter
SevenD2 said:
You will need a MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter
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That's what followed along with my screen, a MHL cable (microusb to HDMI)
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That's what followed along with my screen, a MHL cable (microusb to HDMI)
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Then it should work, you should try, if it's going through the micro usb then theres not high chance it will brick your phone
SevenD2 said:
Then it should work, you should try, if it's going through the micro usb then theres not high chance it will brick your phone
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Well, it's a 5-pin MHL to HDMI, is that the problem?
Wikipedia said:
Connectors
As noted in the 'Features' section, the MHL standard is connector agnostic. The different types of connections, include:
5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The first implementations use the most popular mobile connection (micro USB) and the most popular TV connection (HDMI). Other than the physical connectors, USB and HDMI technology are not being used. It is exclusively MHL signaling through the connectors and over the cable.
11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The Samsung Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II and Galaxy S4 use a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously. (Note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB On-The-Go port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III/ Note 2 can power the MHL-HDMI adapter (when used with a non-MHL-compatible-TV). Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
The Galaxy S III was the first MHL device to use a different connector - one that is not compatible with all other MHL devices and accessories.[9]
MHL cable [edit]
Passive cables are also available at retail that allows consumers to connect an MHL-enabled device directly to an MHL TV.
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From Wiki
If your 5 pin doesn't work then it will require any 11 pin version (I think)
Correct me if I am mistaken but the Keyboard docks for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 2 10.1 and Note 10.1 all provide keyboard and charging at the same time (and also audio out).
Well, This proves that charging and USB on the go can be made in a single device.
I was thinking in something a little more bold: integrating a full size USB port inside the tablet itself and a microUSB port just for charging with a conventional Android USB cable as the one that comes with my Galaxy S3 (but using the tablet charger, of course, due to the higher Amps).
I plan to make all the modifications inside the tablet and soldering the to the 30 pin port internally.
It sounds crazy but I think it could be done.
My only concern is about USB syncing with the computer. So I guess I should add a switch somewhere to change from USB host (pendrive, keyboard, etc) to USB slave (syncing with computer).
Also, it would be great too if when set in USB slave mode the added microUSB port could serve as syncing port (yeah, I don't like the docking port. It is good for docking, bad for everything else)
My previous tablet was an Acer Iconia Tab A500. It had plenty of interfacing options: a full size host USB, a syncing microUSB, a round two pins charging connector similar to the old nokia ones (allowing charging and using USB pendrive at the same time) and microHDMI out apart from a docking port and audio jack. The only thing I miss from this tablet is its connectivity
Any ideas, comments, suggestions?
Hi, dear friend!
don't you think it will make difficulties with the Tablet's slim design?
I'm interested in this... if you think you can do it, then I may help you do it...
BYE
arashtarafar said:
Hi, dear friend!
don't you think it will make difficulties with the Tablet's slim design?
I'm interested in this... if you think you can do it, then I may help you do it...
BYE
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Indeed. Nobody said it would be easy, but my Acer Iconia A500 had a full size USB port and it was no thicker than the Galaxy. I think it is a matter of finding the appropriate empty space. Of course, maybe there is not such space to allow the project to become true. I will open the tablet this weekend and then we will see.
In the meanwhile, if anybody has good reference of the 30 pin port, resistance values needed to activate USB OTG and HDMI and if it is possible to have both running at the same time, it would be great.
Have you read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065
In the first post, there are two images of the connections in the 30-pin cable...
I don't remember though... I have read it many months ago...
Anybody figure out why the both charging port and charging cable that the phone comes with, have what looks like a double plug? One is a common micro USB port, and it seems that I can charge the phone with any old Android charger, as it will fit in this port. The other kind of looks like a USB port that you'd see on a digital camera. Just wondering what this is for, and why the provided cable has both.
Thanks in advance!
Airman1947 said:
Anybody figure out why the both charging port and charging cable that the phone comes with, have what looks like a double plug? One is a common micro USB port, and it seems that I can charge the phone with any old Android charger, as it will fit in this port. The other kind of looks like a USB port that you'd see on a digital camera. Just wondering what this is for, and why the provided cable has both.
Thanks in advance!
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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Oooooohhhh!! So that's what a micro USB 3.0 looks like! Cool, good to know. Thanks for the help.
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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Great post. I did used USB 2.0 in past. But after read your post i am appreciate for using USB 3.0 port and cable.. How can i get it from ?
bsweetness said:
It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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Not true.
MHL works through the standard microUSB portion of the plug, just like it does on many other devices. The additional thinner side is to accommodate the changes for USB 3.0. The Note 3 was the first phone to use a USB 3.0 cable and have a USB 3.0 Micro-B port on the device, and Samsung is following suit with the S5. Samsung has been supporting MHL 2.0 since the S4, which only had a standard microUSB port, so there was no need to switch to a new port design just for that. And if you look at the MHL adapter you mentioned, it has a standard microUSB plug. The HTC One, HTC One Max, and HTC One (M8) (among other devices) also have MHL 2.0, and do so through a standard microUSB port. The extended port on the S5 (and Note 3) is for USB 3.0. It's not there for MHL.
And the Engadget review that you linked doesn't support your post, rather it just notes that the port supports MHL (which it supports it through the standard microUSB portion of the port).
Interesting. I got my $12 adapter in today and sure nuff, it is usb port only. Thanks, now I find this out I think that is stupid of Samsung to put the USB 3.0 extension as another port. Not that I use it that often....
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Interesting. I got my $12 adapter in today and sure nuff, it is usb port only. Thanks, now I find this out I think that is stupid of Samsung to put the USB 3.0 extension as another port. Not that I use it that often....
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There was no other way for them to add USB 3.0 functionality to the device while allowing backwards compatibility with microUSB 2.0. They wanted everyone to have the option of still being able to use their old microUSB 2.0 cables along with a different USB 3.0. I think it was definitely the right move instead of introducing a completely new plug that's not backwards compatible.
That said, a new USB 3.0 plug is coming that's not backwards compatible with USB 2.0 microUSB cables. It's been recently approved, but I'm not sure when we'll start seeing it on the devices.
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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Where can i buy the $13 adapter?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3Q7K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Check out the USB plug. See the blue plastic insert? Denotes SS super drives. Huge transfer speeds
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Greetings,
How can I get simultaneous use of OTG and mhl to work on my S5? SM-G900I
Thanks!
I have the Samsung Smart Dock, which provides that and works with the Note 4 (and some earlier Notes and Galaxy S). The water resistant port cover stops me from trying it with the S5 though, and I don't want to take that off right now. Unfortunately it's not easy to get an extension cable to try it either, due to the custom pin layout used for MHL on the S3 onwards.
@arghness thanks for the input - I found conflicting feedback saying it doesn't work with the S5. what is the model number for the smart dock you have? I'd really appreciate if you could give it a go
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Smart-Multimedia-Active/dp/B009QW3TBK#Ask
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
Samsung Smart Dock EDD-S20JWE, EDD-S20KWK, EDD-S20JWEGSTA, EDD-S20EWEG, EDD-S20EWE,
There are quite a few model number associated with this dock
Compatible with the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy S4, and Galaxy Mega (Not compatible with Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S 5)
Ah, okay. There are definitely posts (and videos) of it working with a Note 4 and I've actually had mine working with a Note 3.
On my S5, I can't even get the dock far enough in to the port for charging, due to the port protecting flap. Even without that, it might be an issue because the port is recessed in to the body so that the flap is flush with the outside of the case.
I still get the feeling that all the support is still there, if we could get a working extension cable. There's this: http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-mhl-ext-xxg.html but I've heard that it doesn't even work properly with Note 2 (from an XDA post).
You're probably out of luck, sorry. I was hoping to be able to get it working as well.
hmm..okay, i've bought the smart dock, will give it a go when it arrives
jazzaddict said:
hmm..okay, i've bought the smart dock, will give it a go when it arrives
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Any updates?
derekb123 said:
Any updates?
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With further research
It looks like the S5 does not support simultaneous use of OTG and MHL as samsung implemented a 5-pin mini usb connector. Unlike the S 3/4 and note 2/3/4 where 11-pins mini usb connector enable simultaneous use of OTG and MHL. I don't understand why Samsung downgraded the S5.
More details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile...-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_and_tip_.28eleven-pin.29
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With further research
It looks like the S5 does not support simultaneous use of OTG and MHL as samsung implemented a 5-pin mini usb connector. Unlike the S 3/4 and note 2/3/4 where 11-pins mini usb connector enable simultaneous use of OTG and MHL. I don't understand why Samsung downgraded the S5.
More details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile...-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_and_tip_.28eleven-pin.29
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So there's really no way to unlock this phone with broken screen then right?
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So there's really no way to unlock this phone with broken screen then right?
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I don't think it is possible
More info here:
http://www.galaxymhl.com/
Samsung probably downgrade S5 to a standard 5-pin micro usb connector to ensure broad compatibility with mhl adapater - this also prevented simultaneous use of OTG and mhl since in a 5 pins usb connector the same signalling wires are use for both mhl and usb-otg.
the S5 implement micro usb 3.0, I'm wondering if there is any adapter out there that can convert this into a 11-pin micro usb 2.0 connector??
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With further research
It looks like the S5 does not support simultaneous use of OTG and MHL as samsung implemented a 5-pin mini usb connector. Unlike the S 3/4 and note 2/3/4 where 11-pins mini usb connector enable simultaneous use of OTG and MHL. I don't understand why Samsung downgraded the S5.
More details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile...-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_and_tip_.28eleven-pin.29
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That post doesn't say that MHL/OTG isn't possible with the S5, it doesn't mention the S5 at all. The pages I've seen seem to indicate that it's still 11 pin:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s5+11+pin&oq=s5+11+pin
And other pages indicate that it can do MHL and have power, but that power is optional, unlike the S3:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/02/05/mhl-adapter-samsung-galaxy-need/
They don't say whether OTG can be done concurrently, though, but I don't see why not.
I have a "11pin mhl v1.0 to hdmi adapter cable" that works fine with mirroring my S5 (SM-G900I lollipop) to an HDMI Display (Monitor or TV). The cable doesn't have usb input to test otg at the same time though. This cable also charges my S5 while mirroring.
I am interested in using my S5 as a desktop pc so would like to know if any one has had success with mirroring thier S5 on a TV/Monitor and using a Mouse & Keyboard at the same time!!!
TIA
any updates? Have someone found an adapter that does mhl and otg at the same time.... I have tried one adapter that does not work and asks several sellers on ebay about other adapters and all said either they don't know or it does not work simultaneously....
No adapter but you can use samsung sidesync between phone and pc.
sidesync? I want to convert my phone into a desktop/tv box and I don't want to use bluetooth
sidesync converts your phone in to an android pc using your pc's monitor,mouse,keyboard through usb cable or wifi. Your phone will display on the monitor like screen mirroring and you use your pc's mouse and keyboard to navigate and type.
sidesync wont work with tv because you need to install sidesync on pc.
ah ok thx interesting but it defeats the purpose of autonomy
Hi all, I've tested an usb-c adapter, to get Dex mode without pay 140€ in my country. But with this adapter I can't trigger Dex mode on setting, I can only get screen mirror, even with the charger.
Is there a trick to bypass, this kind of detection?
I think, like Galaxy s8 there is something that trigger this feature when Dex/Compatible adapters, are connected.
you will need USB-C to HDMI+2 USB3.0 with Power delivery port... without power delivery port it will just mirror your phone.. if you have one.. connect power to the adapter.. that should in theory trigger the dex mode
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you will need USB-C to HDMI+2 USB3.0 with Power delivery port... without power delivery port it will just mirror your phone.. if you have one.. connect power to the adapter.. that should in theory trigger the dex mode
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On the last image, near the ethernet port there is the usb-c port to charge my device, i've used my original charger, s8 charger and macbook charger (the usb-c one), but nothing, also i can't see the option to change mirror to dex in settings...
Same thing here!
I believed that my Hub doens't support quick charge or something similar, just normal "slow" charge even when it's connected to original charger, and for this it does not trigger the dex mode only mirror.
I got a USB-C hub CB-C55 from AUKEY and was not happy trying to have DeX =(
Maybe it's because it does not have fast charge
Let me try using a most powerful charger...
No. Nothing happened. =/
Samsung DeX with S8/S9/Note8 only works with a DeX Station.
Only the Note9 works with a normal USB-C to HDMI cable
My S9+ does it just fine with one of the dex capable USB c hubs.
Is there any Type C to HDMI Hub apart from Official Dex Pad which anyone found working for Dex mode?
Please suggest so that it will be really helpful to others before buying.
Thank you.
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My S9+ does it just fine with one of the dex capable USB c hubs.
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Hi Mate, can you share the model of dex-mode compatible hub?
Thanks
This one:
Splaks USB C Hub 7 Port.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07G9337ZX?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Look for something called "Melopow M002" on ebay. Cheap usb-c hub that will enable DeX mode, at least works for my S8+.
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Or go to AliExpress and search for " usb-c hub switch dex"
Many options there...
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I've bought this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB...ngle-To-HDMI-4K-with-RJ45-PD/32903071866.html
and it does not work too (S9+). I've tried different chargers and two different displays.
Just gonna use a HDMI hub
You could install android 9 and it will work with standard usb c - HDMI cable I do this all the time and works great!
bunglebp said:
You could install android 9 and it will work with standard usb c - HDMI cable I do this all the time and works great!
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I've tried three different unpowered cables and they only mirror the phone. Seems it still does not trigger Dex unless it's a powered hub.
It worked in the leaked early beta but not with the two latest official builds (CRLI and CRLO).
Linux on Galaxy beta does not work as intended either on S9+. Can download Ubuntu but throws errors after unpacking.
ninjeratu said:
I've tried three different unpowered cables and they only mirror the phone. Seems it still does not trigger Dex unless it's a powered hub.
It worked in the leaked early beta but not with the two latest official builds (CRLI and CRLO).
Linux on Galaxy beta does not work as intended either on S9+. Can download Ubuntu but throws errors after unpacking.
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Im using CRLI - check settings and connections>More Connection Settings and check HDMI Mode - can use Screen Mirror or Samsung Dex
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Im using CRLI - check settings and connections>More Connection Settings and check HDMI Mode - can use Screen Mirror or Samsung Dex
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D'oh...
Thanks!
bunglebp said:
You could install android 9 and it will work with standard usb c - HDMI cable I do this all the time and works great!
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So this is what I did, but when connect it nothing happened
PS
nvm, got it working
Can confirm, same for me. It used to work but does not anymore on the official builds.
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Can confirm, same for me. It used to work but does not anymore on the official builds.
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So what you are saying is after you update your S9 Plus to latest official Pie build, DeX mode isn't working with non official convertors, such as type-c to hdmi adapter ?