Hello,
My Redmi note 2 does not do the automatic updates via the updater app and I am stuck on 5.9.2 beta.
I realized that I probably do not have an official rom (since I have GoogleAppStore) and that might be the reason why the updater will not connect to the servers.
So I think I would be better off wiping and flashing my phone to reinstall a rom. My question is this: which rom should I install ? I see a lot off different stuff that I do not understand, Official, Hermes, Global, Xiamo.eu etc... All of this is very confusing to me. All the threads consists in installation guide and are not very clear on what are the differences between theses roms.
Ideally I would need an english rom, without the chineese apps, with the GoogleStore and that could be upgraded automatically without having to wipe the phone every time.
I also see that the 5.10.15/16 miui rom is running on a new version of android. Do I need to make the android upgrade myself or does it come with the rom ? Should I be worried about bugs, loss of performance/battery life with these new roms and android version ? What are the real improvements ?
Thanks a lot !
Cheers
Where did you see that 5.10.15 works on a new version of android? I din't see anything... I only saw that it changed the sign, that now is private, so we need TWRP for update unofficial miui rom (if we want gapps and multilanguage)
For the rom:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage. From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater
Global is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
kirikoukirikou said:
Hello,
My Redmi note 2 does not do the automatic updates via the updater app and I am stuck on 5.9.2 beta.
I realized that I probably do not have an official rom (since I have GoogleAppStore) and that might be the reason why the updater will not connect to the servers.
So I think I would be better off wiping and flashing my phone to reinstall a rom. My question is this: which rom should I install ? I see a lot off different stuff that I do not understand, Official, Hermes, Global, Xiamo.eu etc... All of this is very confusing to me. All the threads consists in installation guide and are not very clear on what are the differences between theses roms.
Ideally I would need an english rom, without the chineese apps, with the GoogleStore and that could be upgraded automatically without having to wipe the phone every time.
I also see that the 5.10.15/16 miui rom is running on a new version of android. Do I need to make the android upgrade myself or does it come with the rom ? Should I be worried about bugs, loss of performance/battery life with these new roms and android version ? What are the real improvements ?
Thanks a lot !
Cheers
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The official Xaiomi ROM is MIUI 7 and it came out for the phone at the same time as the hardware launch. The ROM can be downloaded here. You can pick between the developer version that's updated weekly or the stable version that is updated every six months. I believe they come with Google Apps. The ROM contains the OS so you don't need to worry about upgrading separate software. You can mostly just read about the ROM's on other threads on forums (and I suggest going to the official MIUI forums).
To flash the ROM, you can download the PC updater as well at the link.
SkiFire13 said:
Where did you see that 5.10.15 works on a new version of android? I din't see anything... I only saw that it changed the sign, that now is private, so we need TWRP for update unofficial miui rom (if we want gapps and multilanguage)
For the rom:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage. From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater
Global is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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Hi,
First of all, let me thank you for your answer.
Does this mean I should install this rom ? xiaomi.eu community threads 5-10-15-16.28809
And then do my weekly updates manually by unzipping the files ?
About the android update, you will see in the second post on the link I just sent:
"[System]
New - Android version upgraded to 5.1.1. Please note that users cannot go back to older developer version after this update, otherwise your device might face severe damages such as not able to make calls (Mi Note Pro) (10-09)"
SkiFire13 said:
Where did you see that 5.10.15 works on a new version of android? I din't see anything... I only saw that it changed the sign, that now is private, so we need TWRP for update unofficial miui rom (if we want gapps and multilanguage)
For the rom:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage. From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater
Global is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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from xiaomi site they said the first global rom v7 will be the 10/27 so you can wait one week to get it on xiaomi miui eu.
tailslol said:
from xiaomi site they said the first global rom v7 will be the 10/27 so you can wait one week to get it on xiaomi miui eu.
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Haha great, I am just in the process of installing the Xiaomi.eu weekly rom...
Anyway thank you all for your answers.
I am installing the Xiaomi.eu 5.10.16 weekly. From what I understand I will need to patch and upgrade by downloading the .zip file manually.
kirikoukirikou said:
Haha great, I am just in the process of installing the Xiaomi.eu weekly rom...
Anyway thank you all for your answers.
I am installing the Xiaomi.eu 5.10.16 weekly. From what I understand I will need to patch and upgrade by downloading the .zip file manually.
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with luck the rom you have come with a update installer included,the miui france got one so they can update it really easily just by running the app,but it is french only. it come with gapps and i think all dev roms are rooted by default. you acces root permission in the security center.
kirikoukirikou said:
Hi,
About the android update, you will see in the second post on the link I just sent:
"[System]
New - Android version upgraded to 5.1.1. Please note that users cannot go back to older developer version after this update, otherwise your device might face severe damages such as not able to make calls (Mi Note Pro) (10-09)"
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I was excited about upgrading to 5.1.1. On rereading the post, I interpreted it to apply to only one phone, the Mi Note Pro.
Sent from my Asus Zenpad S 8.0
Explore3 said:
I was excited about upgrading to 5.1.1. On rereading the post, I interpreted it to apply to only one phone, the Mi Note Pro.
Sent from my Asus Zenpad S 8.0
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Yeah, I though the phone was mentionned because the but bug was reported on this one...
SkiFire13 said:
Hermes is the codename of our device. Our roms names are HMNote2 or Hermes.
Xiaomi.eu is an european translation site. It create a weekly rom multilanguage.
From miui v7 his OTA update (yes, xiaomi.eu release OTA updates) don't work fine. Update manualy downloading the rom and then installing it from updater. these miui v7 roms atm are the beta/alpha versions before they finalise a stable vision.
Global rom is as the xiaomi.eu rom but it's official. Usually the 'stable' release/version after all the beta/alpha stages.
There isn't a global rom for our phone yet.
Official. Original releases from xiaomi.com team at china, real official.
For now the official roms are only the v6 stable and the v7 china developer. Only chinese and english and no gapps.
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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So ideally, for us non-chinese preferred/english/google users, we would like to be on the Global version.
Hope this helps more :silly:
aliguu said:
So ideally, for us non-chinese preferred/english/google users, we would like to be on the Global version.
Hope this helps more :silly:
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for the non chinese the best could be a aosp rom without miui.
they are a lot more stock,you will find them in the forum if you want.
MIUI isn't better than AOSP and AOSP isn't better than MIUI. I prefer MIUI, another persons can prefer AOSP.
The best miui version... Global and Xiaomi.eu can be good, but the translations are a bit old (a week behind). All the translations community release a ROM that contain the latest rom with that language translated.
So for example miui.it release the miui with the latest italian translation, miui.es with the latest spain translation ecc ecc
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
SkiFire13 said:
MIUI isn't better than AOSP and AOSP isn't better than MIUI. I prefer MIUI, another persons can prefer AOSP.
The best miui version... Global and Xiaomi.eu can be good, but the translations are a bit old (a week behind). All the translations community release a ROM that contain the latest rom with that language translated.
So for example miui.it release the miui with the latest italian translation, miui.es with the latest spain translation ecc ecc
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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miui is full of untranslated chinese bloatware and has no voice reconisation,limited hand free fonctions with bluetooth headset for example and block a lots of tweaks.
google now can be used but it will not work in hand free mode and you cant assign to a bluetooth or wired headset without unlock the phone.but the user interface and security is great.
on the other hand aosp roms have all hand free fonction intact with no chinese bloatware . but you will lose the miui avantages (the ui and security tweaks),aosp is very stock but you can add your launcher and extra apps and fonction like xposed (walkman/xperia stuff or dolby atmos...)
tailslol said:
miui is full of untranslated chinese bloatware and has no voice reconisation,limited hand free fonctions with bluetooth headset for example and block a lots of tweaks.
google now can be used but it will not work in hand free mode and you cant assign to a bluetooth or wired headset without unlock the phone.but the user interface and security is great.
on the other hand aosp roms have all hand free fonction intact with no chinese bloatware . but you will lose the miui avantages (the ui and security tweaks),aosp is very stock but you can add your launcher and extra apps and fonction like xposed (walkman/xperia stuff or dolby atmos...)
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I don't see chinese bloatware untranslated... Are you using the chinese developer rom or a xiaomi.eu rom? And which language?
I never had problems with miui.
I don't need extra functions because all that I need is in miui.
I like miui style, and I didn't find anything similar to it on AOSP or CM themes. Or I'm wrong?
Ps I don't understand the launcher thing... I can also change it on miui...
SkiFire13 said:
I don't see chinese bloatware untranslated... Are you using the chinese developer rom or a xiaomi.eu rom? And which language?
I never had problems with miui.
I don't need extra functions because all that I need is in miui.
I like miui style, and I didn't find anything similar to it on AOSP or CM themes. Or I'm wrong?
Ps I don't understand the launcher thing... I can also change it on miui...
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i am using the french dev rom for the moment with included root ,gapps and ota updater.
well yes you can change the launcher in miui but it takes lots of ram by default,
the chinese browser,the mi market,kuaipan are bloatware not realy nicely translated.
the music ,market,gallery,fm radio,video and theme app have a lots of chinese unstranslated shop pages and those shops are not usefull at all here.
especialy the untranslated themes that add chinese part to your phone.
and to me the lack of hand free voice reconisation on a phone is just a killer .
tailslol said:
i am using the french dev rom for the moment with included root ,gapps and ota updater.
well yes you can change the launcher in miui but it takes lots of ram by default,
the chinese browser,the mi market,kuaipan are bloatware not realy nicely translated.
the music ,market,gallery,fm radio,video and theme app have a lots of chinese unstranslated shop pages and those shops are not usefull at all here.
especialy the untranslated themes that add chinese part to your phone.
and to me the lack of hand free voice reconisation on a phone is just a killer .
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in xiaomi.eu rom (italian language):
-Browser -> translated (and the default page is google)
-MiMarket -> removed
-Kuaipan -> translated and integrated in File Manager (so you can use only File Manager)
-Music, Video -> online services removed
-Gallery, FM Radio -> no chinese services...
-Themes -> Nobody translate the themes, only the official themes are translated
-Free Voice Reconisation -> Just install an app for it. in my opinion this technology is too slow so I use the keyboard
So, what is the problem? Maybe you are using the wrong ROM?
SkiFire13 said:
in xiaomi.eu rom (italian language):
-Browser -> translated (and the default page is google)
-MiMarket -> removed
-Kuaipan -> translated and integrated in File Manager (so you can use only File Manager)
-Music, Video -> online services removed
-Gallery, FM Radio -> no chinese services...
-Themes -> Nobody translate the themes, only the official themes are translated
-Free Voice Reconisation -> Just install an app for it. in my opinion this technology is too slow so I use the keyboard
So, what is the problem? Maybe you are using the wrong ROM?
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well do you have root?
my security center has root manager.
and as i said the hand free mode of most 3rd party apps cant be used in miui because it just does not allow to be trigered by a headset without unlocking the phone.
and as i am seeing your miui have lots of stuff removed.
does it support natively french language ?
i did not flash the rom myself,
when i purchased my phone on xiaomi france site,i
had this rom on it. i receive an ota update every weeks so i am guessing it is the most untouched miui you can get.
Yes, I have root.
Xiaomi.eu roms supports French
I don't know what rom you have, usualy stock roms aren't very good
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
SkiFire13 said:
Yes, I have root.
Xiaomi.eu roms supports French
I don't know what rom you have, usualy stock roms aren't very good
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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miui france dev rom 7 5.10.22 beta
edit : oki i looked the issue closely and it seems 2 groups are actuly translating miui in french...
miui france provide a untouched rom and xiaomi eu make a global rom with most chinese services removed.
i switched by using the included update app and it removed most chinese stuff.
but the hand free limitation is still a problem...
Try this. On my phone work
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
I just got the Axon Mini from china and for some reason it won't let me use any of the google applications.
I also can't create a google account because of this
I went to apkmirror and download newer versions of: Google account manager, google play services, google play store, and google services framework.
also tried a factory reset
Phone info:
Model Number: ZTE B2015
Android Version: 5.1.1
Android Security patch level: 2016-01-01
Kernel version: 3.10.49
MiFavor UI: 3.2
Build version: ZTE B2015FTV1.0.0B07
Any help or suggestions are appreciated, and it's a new phone so I'm not worried about losing anything
Hi Yosef,
it seems like you're in the wrong forum. As you state you have an Axon Mini and not an Axon 7 Mini. Sadly XDA Does not seem to have a Axon Mini Forum.
There seems to be some software and ROMs in the Axon Pro Forums for your Phone though.
Generally it is a really, really bad Idea to import a Chinese Phone. They generally come without Google Services and filled with Spyware:
https://www.cyberscoop.com/android-malware-china-huawei-zte-kryptowire-blu-products/
As this is also well known by Google and therefore the S
spyware phones are not supported. I believe your best bet is to install custom Firmware (if available) and have a fresh start.
An update to the H2OS out after a long time. The alternative ROM for the OnePlus devices is now updated to the version 3.0. The Hydrogen OS is mostly designed for the Chinese variants of the Oneplus devices. However, the H2OS 3.0 can also be installed on a regular or international variant of the OnePlus 3 and the OnePlus 3T. The ROM brings many new features.
As the Hydrogen OS is a firmware for the Chinese variant, it doesn’t come with the Google Apps pre-installed. You will need to install it separately. Fortunately, we already have a Google play store installed APK which can easily install the Google Play Services onto your Android device.
***IMPORTANT***
BACKUP DATA
Downloads:
ROM ONEPLUS 3T:
http://otafsc.h2os.com/patch/CHN/On...ydrogen_28_OTA_036_all_1702082007_3786c5e.zip
ROM ONEPLUS 3:
http://otafsc1.h2os.com/patch/CHN/O...Hydrogen_16_OTA_036_all_1702081955_c3cb36.zip
Google Apps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoET2NaY1hXODNMOEk/view
Google Play store:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoES3FrM0hBYTNHQUk/view
Google play services:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-030-146496160-android-apk-download/download/
Instructions:
1.Backup device
2.Enter twrp
3.Wipe Data factory reset
4.Flash Rom.
5.Reboot.
I have not Rooted ill make an video On Rooting H2o.
Source:
https://www.androidsage.com/2017/02/17/install-hydrogen-os-3-0-for-oneplus-33t-download-links/
VIDEO:
https://youtu.be/B21em3jgzCA
Any changelog?
ashokmor007 said:
An update to the H2OS out after a long time. The alternative ROM for the OnePlus devices is now updated to the version 3.0. The Hydrogen OS is mostly designed for the Chinese variants of the Oneplus devices. However, the H2OS 3.0 can also be installed on a regular or international variant of the OnePlus 3 and the OnePlus 3T. The ROM brings many new features.
As the Hydrogen OS is a firmware for the Chinese variant, it doesn’t come with the Google Apps pre-installed. You will need to install it separately. Fortunately, we already have a Google play store installed APK which can easily install the Google Play Services onto your Android device.
***IMPORTANT***
BACKUP DATA
Downloads:
ROM ONEPLUS 3T:
http://otafsc.h2os.com/patch/CHN/On...ydrogen_28_OTA_036_all_1702082007_3786c5e.zip
ROM ONEPLUS 3:
http://otafsc1.h2os.com/patch/CHN/O...Hydrogen_16_OTA_036_all_1702081955_c3cb36.zip
Google Apps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoET2NaY1hXODNMOEk/view
Google Play store:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6pQCizpnzoES3FrM0hBYTNHQUk/view
Google play services:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-030-146496160-android-apk-download/download/
Instructions:
1.Backup device
2.Enter twrp
3.Wipe Data factory reset
4.Flash Rom.
5.Reboot.
I have not Rooted ill make an video On Rooting H2o.
Source:
https://www.androidsage.com/2017/02/17/install-hydrogen-os-3-0-for-oneplus-33t-download-links/
VIDEO:
https://youtu.be/B21em3jgzCA
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Are these stable versions or beta versions ???
D0M1N13 said:
Are these stable versions or beta versions ???
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Stable
ashokmor007 said:
Stable
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Thanks dude ! Appreciate it !
Will all the US bands be enabled with Hydrogen OS?
Hi, can anyone using a US OnePlus 3T confirm whether the US version of OnePlus 3T with Hydrogen OS will have the exact same bands enabled as the US version using Oxygen OS? I want to be as Google-free as possible and starting with a manufacturer-supported Google-free ROM like H2OS sounds like a good way to go.
I'm open to other ways to accomplish this but simpler is better for me. Finally moving away from Windows Phone, and yes I know, why would you want Android if you don't want Google? Answer, pathetically trying to cling to ownership of my personal data and can't afford the next best OEM privacy option, the iPhone (which isn't a great privacy option either). Thx!
thph2006 said:
Hi, can anyone using a US OnePlus 3T confirm whether the US version of OnePlus 3T with Hydrogen OS will have the exact same bands enabled as the US version using Oxygen OS? I want to be as Google-free as possible and starting with a manufacturer-supported Google-free ROM like H2OS sounds like a good way to go.
I'm open to other ways to accomplish this but simpler is better for me. Finally moving away from Windows Phone, and yes I know, why would you want Android if you don't want Google? Answer, pathetically trying to cling to ownership of my personal data and can't afford the next best OEM privacy option, the iPhone (which isn't a great privacy option either). Thx!
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I've been down this path too many times. It's doable but not easy. First, scrap H2OS since Playstore is preinstalled. I'd go with either a lineage based Rom or Freedom OS (OOS with the option to leave all google and OP Apps out on Installation). Just don't flash Gapps after the Rom.
But thats really the easy part. The hard part is the setup. First, you'd need to sideload at least a browser. Get the browser apk of your choice from a reputable source (xda labs is great. It even manages Updates for you). Depending on the apps you need, you'll need some playstore alternative. Some things can be had through xda-labs. If Open Source is your thing, f-droid is great too. Just don't download apk's from somewhere on the web. Your privacy might be more at risk than with google on it.
Also, get a vcard backup of your contacts (or run your own carddav server). Finally, some apps simply won't run without google framework (that's why it's back on my phone). For example "Bring", a shopping list, won't run without google framework. Don't ask me why. But i need that app. Just be prepared for some major inconveniences, and having to find workarounds... :good:
Thanks for the great input domsch1988. You've given me exactly the tips I need to get started. One question though. You mentioned Playstore is preinstalled on H2OS. I was under the impression the main difference between H2OS and OOS was H2OS's removal of all Google specific stuff to meet China's Google restrictions. I assumed that included Playstore. Are you sure it's in there? I only ask because I'd rather start with a OnePlus supported ROM if I can but if that's not the case I'll take the leap and go with one of the ROMs you suggest. Can you recommend a lineage-based ROM I can start with? And, do you have an opinion on microG as a Play framework replacement? It seems like a good idea in theory but the way it's implemented gives me some security concerns.
thph2006 said:
Thanks for the great input domsch1988. You've given me exactly the tips I need to get started. One question though. You mentioned Playstore is preinstalled on H2OS. I was under the impression the main difference between H2OS and OOS was H2OS's removal of all Google specific stuff to meet China's Google restrictions. I assumed that included Playstore. Are you sure it's in there? I only ask because I'd rather start with a OnePlus supported ROM if I can but if that's not the case I'll take the leap and go with one of the ROMs you suggest. Can you recommend a lineage-based ROM I can start with? And, do you have an opinion on microG as a Play framework replacement? It seems like a good idea in theory but the way it's implemented gives me some security concerns.
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OP stated that PlayStore APK is preinstalled. I have not tried h2os, so can't say for sure. You could give it a try. And with root you can always uninstall system apps.
I never tried microg myself. For me it was always no g at all or the pico Gapps package.
As a lineage based ROM, on my note 4 resurrection remix was great. On the 3t I'm on stock oos, so not sure.
Play store or anything Google is not installed on H2OS
i am using it currently tried to go without play store and other apps for one day but couldn't deal with all the Chinese apps so, installed OOS although everything could have been installed on H2OS also.
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Dear all,
I just bought a Huawei Nova in Shanghai (chinese version). It has 5.1 emui. But no google services. Ive tried to download and install them and gave all permissions but still not able to start. Also i did install purevpn apk but it is frozen again at the beginning. It is about android 7? How can i solve this problem? Best,
Probably it's the same story as with Xiaomi phones with Chinese ROMs. Google is banned in China that's what you cannot use it. Try to find official international ROM for your device and flash it.
Hiapp has a modified google play and google play services. It worked on my device in China on EMUI 4. Not sure why the apk is force closing. Do they have options to set up the vpn manually?
hank you but i do not want to flash a rom. i found out that purevpn app is freezing when i was trying to start hiapp's google play. after removing it, it works but slow (nothing to do here). but still sad about google play and other google services part.
Hubik82 said:
Probably it's the same story as with Xiaomi phones with Chinese ROMs. Google is banned in China that's what you cannot use it. Try to find official international ROM for your device and flash it.
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I now run LineageOS on my phone, so I have flashed GApps. Before that I was on EMUI 4 and it seemed fine with HIapps google. There is a free VPN called zerovpn and I got that to work in most places (again I am also in China).