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[ROM Reviews/GUIDE] A newbies guide to Nougat ROMs for the Z2 Plus

Alright, so after ROM-hopping for quite a bit over the past three months, I've got a fairly good idea about the various ROMs for our device, unofficial or otherwise. With Oreo coming out soon, and most Nougat ROMs getting their final builds, I thought this might be a good time to give my impressions. While old-timers might not get much use out of this, I'm hoping this will help out anyone that's recently bought a Z2, or is new to XDA.
INTRODUCTION
So, you got a Z2 and are looking to try a new custom ROM to get away from the horror show that is ZUI. Well, I've got good and bad news for ya.
The good- well, if you're a "normal" user that uses his phone to call, text, browse and game for a bit, most ROMs are gonna please you. Most of them are "stable" at this point, meaning you'll get very few crashes/random restarts unless you go full ham installing esoteric Xposed modules. But if you're new to XDA, you're probably unaware of Xposed anyway.
The bad- Most of them will also have some minor issues, and the only way to know if a ROM is perfect for you is to try it. Everyone has their own use cases/expectations from a ROM and thus will have a different experience than you.
My usage: I do not use Google Apps, except for Maps. Most of the apps I use are free/open source, except a few unavoidable one's like banking apps and WhatsApp. That being said, I've tried most(all?) of these ROMs with both Gapps and no Gapps to get a fair impression. Played a few games too, to test the phone in demanding situtations.
I have divided this guide into categories, roughly based on a users requirements. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Usually, if a ROM has insane performance, battery life tends to suffer. The key, as with all things in life, is finding the right balance. When a category has numerical ratings, I will be using a relative scale out of 10. A 10 does not mean that a ROM is perfect in an area, only that it was the best one that I came across.
With that lengthy, but neccessary introduction out of the way, here's the guide:
CATEGORY A: I want my phone to fly, battery life be damned!
I feel that 3 ROMs fit the bill here:
1. VIperOS by @jneto3000
2. Citrus CAF by @DD3Boh
3. Pure Fusion OS by @devabhi
While Viper has been the smoothest by a tiny margin, all these ROMs have amazing performance, and ran anything I threw at them without a hitch. I never had any UI lags while scrolling in apps. That being said, each does have a drawback. With Viper, I've always had a bit of a delay in the fingerprint scanner, PureFusion has been (slightly) unstable for me, and Citrus CAF hasn't recieved the latest KRACK patches, which makes it a no-go from a security POV.
Overall Ratings:
ROM RATING
Viper 10
Citrus CAF 9.5
PureFusion 9.5
Jaguar 9
LineageOS 8.8
crDroid 8.3
AquariOS 8
CarbonROM 7.8
NOTE: Just because I said, "Battery life be damned", doesn't mean all these ROMs have atrocious battery life. In fact, I got ~6.5 hrs SOT with Citrus CAF + Gapps, which is pretty good.
CATEGORY B: I want a good mix of performance, stability and battery life.
I'm guessing most of you belong to this category. Well you're in luck, because most ROMs for Z2 also belong to this category. You can have your pick amongst:
1. LineageOS by @varotone. Was personally my favorite ROM, extremely stable, lightning fast fingerprint, good performance (lagged a bit in games, but butter smooth for other apps) and good battery life. Unfortunately, it hasn't, and will probably never recieve patches for the KRACK vulnerability, so the more security conscious amongst you might want to avoid it. EDIT: Turns out, we did a get a new build, with the same great performance+battery life, but it does have a slow fingerprint unlock, when the phone has been asleep for a while.
2. Jaguar by @optimumpro. Similar to Lineage, it had frame drops with Games, but was rather smooth otherwise. I used this before Lineage, but my screen-on-time reduced drastically after a couple of weeks . On the flipside, many users have, and continue to report good battery life with it, so take my words with a grain of salt. r17 really improves the GPS performance.
3. crDroid by @Subhrajyoti Sen. Insane battery life. I got ~8.5 hrs of SOT (without Gapps) on my second charge cycle. Began to lag a bit so I switched to Viper, although the latest unofficial build has rectified the performance issues. Haven't tried it myself though.
4. AquariOS by @kenny3fcb. Nothing much to say, just a stable ROM with a good battery life. Hasn't been updated for quite sometime though, so no KRACK or Blueborne vulnerability patches.
CATEGORY C: I want security and longevity
Security conscious? Want frequent updates?
The answer, lads- is Jaguar by @optimumpro, and honestly- it's not even close. I think the only way to find the best ROM for yourself is to find a dev whose priorities/use cases align with yours. And if security is your priority- then @optimumpro is your man.
Damn, I sound like a sales guy.
On a serious note though, while I have little idea what Jaguar's security features like- "hardened bionic" do from a technical standpoint, I can tell you that it's usually the first ROM to incorporate security patches and tweaks, from Google or other sources. The dev takes out the time to respond to most queries, and he's said that the ROM will be maintained and updated till Oreo gets completely stabilized.
It has come to my attention that the dev apparently does not release the source code for Jaguar, so I can no longer recommend Jaguar as a privacy-focused ROM.
CATEGORY D: I want a great battery life
1. crDroid by @Subhrajyoti Sen. The last official build gave me the best overall battery life I've had yet.
2. CarbonROM by @ankit99. Pretty good idle consumption. My battery dropped just 1% overnight. Unfortunately not very stable, and hasn't been updated in a while.
Other noteworthy ROMs
1. AEX by @davidevinavil. While I personally didn't a have a great experience with v4.6 of this ROM, a lot of people have. And the dev has always been active, answering most queries. It's worth trying out the 22nd July build, which is pretty good, but doesn't have any recent security patches.
2.. AEX Unofficial by @Star_king12. While ROM has been discontinued, the dev was very helpful with user queries. Also, the 13th September build gave me some of the best battery life I've had on the Z2. I think he's working on a new ROM, so keep an eye out!
I haven't tried every ROM for the Z2, and I'm sure there are few good ones I've missed. Feel free to point to out any in the comments.
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I'm personally using the last ViperOS build for now, and will continue to do so, if the fingerprint issue doesn't bother me too much. If it does, I might give the latest PureFusion or (unofficial) crDroid builds a try. But by and large, I'm happy with Viper.
I hope this helps some of you.

Nice guide bro! Good work !

I think best nougat rom is viper os I have tried it.It has very good mixture of everything butterysmooth performance I have also played asphalt 8 in it and it doesn't lag

I also used to use Viper OS in My HTC senation XE.. that was the best rom. And full of feature..

what about resurrection remix ? can anyone suggest the best build of RR nougat released till yet?

abhay009 said:
I think best nougat rom is viper os I have tried it.It has very good mixture of everything butterysmooth performance I have also played asphalt 8 in it and it doesn't lag
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What about GPS? Is GPS working, i heard Viper OS has problems with it

vuckovic_stefan said:
What about GPS? Is GPS working, i heard Viper OS has problems with it
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I have no problem GPS is working fine and this have phenomenal battery life this is the best I ever used and it is very stable I think u should try to clean flash again

what about aex roms i think they are also good roms

Heating issue and battery are not that much good on aex roms

abhay009 said:
I have no problem GPS is working fine and this have phenomenal battery life this is the best I ever used and it is very stable I think u should try to clean flash again
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Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...

vuckovic_stefan said:
Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
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To temper your expectations, I gotta tell you that some people, including me, do have a problem with the GPS on Viper. It does work, but only when you've locked on via WiFi/mobile data, otherwise it takes an eternity to lock on with GPS only. Also, Viper's fingerprint scanner takes a slightly long time to unlock if the phone's been asleep. But it's still a pretty great ROM.

@n'wah Mention the most bug free stable ROM please !
Best ROM in terms of SOT , performance and stability. I know you might read OP but I just need to know.
Cause some ROMs have been updated so

ashwath230 said:
@n'wah Mention the most bug free stable ROM please !
Best ROM in terms of SOT , performance and stability. I know you might read OP but I just need to know.
Cause some ROMs have been updated so
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I'd say go with the last LineageOS build. I would have never left that ROM if it had recieved KRACK patches.
If you NEED to have the security patch, then I'd say go with the last (official) crDroid build. I didn't find any noteworthy bugs while the phone was on, however there's a rather scary bug with offline charging- the display gets flipped and and the phone refuses to turn on unless you press the power button for a long time. Performance is slightly worse than Lineage though.
Viper is also a good choice if you can live with the slow fingerprint recognition time when the phone is asleep and the GPS issue mentioned above. It's what I'm currently using. Best performance, okay battery life.
Also, if you can wait a couple of days, @miju12 is gonna release a new ROM - DotOS. Maybe he's managed to iron out the bugs that are in other ROMs.
Hope this helps.

n'wah said:
I'd say go with the last LineageOS build. I would have never left that ROM if it had recieved KRACK patches.
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Why the Lineage ROM never became Official? Does it support VoLTE?
Is there a way to install KRACK patch manually over any ROM? I wan't to try Lineage as I am using it on Moto G and it is bug free on it. Also, I believe it does not have the latest camera blobs right? We have to flash it?

saurav_k said:
Why the Lineage ROM never became Official? Does it support VoLTE?
Is there a way to install KRACK patch manually over any ROM? I wan't to try Lineage as I am using it on Moto G and it is bug free on it. Also, I believe it does not have the latest camera blobs right? We have to flash it?
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IIRC to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests, be mostly bug-free, sensors should work properly etc. By the time the dev ironed out the bugs, he had to step away from development due to personal reasons. I don't think it has the latest camera blobs, volte should work though.
And it doesn't seem that you can flash a security patch manually, if you find out it is possible, please let us know! I feel a lot of users would return to Citrus CAF and Lineage if they had the security patches.

n'wah said:
IIRC to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests, be mostly bug-free, sensors should work properly etc. By the time the dev ironed out the bugs, he had to step away from development due to personal reasons. I don't think it has the latest camera blobs, volte should work though.
And it doesn't seem that you can flash a security patch manually, if you find out it is possible, please let us know! I feel a lot of users would return to Citrus CAF and Lineage if they had the security patches.
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And new ROMS come as official even before masses get to use them (see the DOT OS rom thread). Already official :laugh: no quality control.

vuckovic_stefan said:
Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
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Did you get Your device. And did you get the Nougat update notification or something like that.

saurav_k said:
And new ROMS come as official even before masses get to use them (see the DOT OS rom thread). Already official :laugh: no quality control.
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If you wish to pay me, I will maintain quality control.

miju12 said:
If you wish to pay me, I will maintain quality control.
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Your reply makes no sense in the current context. n'wah replied that "to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests" and to which I said a new ROM which is not even used by anyone yet is already official. Where does the question of paying or not paying comes here? I think you took it in the wrong sense.
I am still not clear about how this Official status gets decided? Lineage, AOSGP-X are out for long time but Unofficial and here is a new ROM which had issues with the first build and it is already official !!
I like many other users appreciate your and other developer's work and I am also excited about the new ROM you are coming up with. The discussion here was about the Official / Unofficial status.

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Your reply makes no sense in the current context. n'wah replied that "to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests" and to which I said a new ROM which is not even used by anyone yet is already official. Where does the question of paying or not paying comes here? I think you took it in the wrong sense.
I am still not clear about how this Official status gets decided? Lineage, AOSGP-X are out for long time but Unofficial and here is a new ROM which had issues with the first build and it is already official !!
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Seriously do you think I have done a random build and publish it? Usually I test my builds myself before publishing but this time I was low on data and the previous build was working good so I didn't test and published which was my mistake and I agree for it. I can't speak for other Roms.

Oreo on RedmiNote3 - why back to Nougat!?

I used Oreo-ROMs now for a few weeks - everyone I tested for at least three days or more. But EVERY Oreo-ROM doesn't work for me like Nougat did before. Latest Oreo-ROM I used was LOS15.1 Nightlies. Battery was ok but 2-3 less SOT then N...GPS was ok...but so many bugs everywhere. Launcher often didnt let me into menue by longpress on screen, Quickpic wasn't running well, Mixplorer didn't let me cut'n'paste from internal memory to sdcard, contacts are gone a few times, SElinux is unsafe... and so on. It feels Nougat wasn't buggy at early state as Oreo is today. So many buggy Oreo-ROMs and Nougat lives in forgotten background..why?!?
Today I'am back to latest LOS14.1 and what should I say - perfect, smooth, all apps running like they should!

when android 7 apper, android 6 is best. wait to fix

as like nogut this is gonna take a while . remember how long it took for nogut to get fp & camera fc fixed.

Probably Oreo will never be as stable as Nougat.

I'm on LokManSiu's LOS 15.1 + Agni Kernel + Magisk since 3 weeks.
I found only two bugs : bluetooth calls and SDcard with exfat are KO.
My SOT is 30min better than with Nougat. Play Store is certified and SafetyNet is OK. No FC. No problem with apps.

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Probably Oreo will never be as stable as Nougat.
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Maybe :silly:

Several of bugs that you mentioned are los bugs. It actually frustrated me that lineage 15.1 is full of bugs and way too behind compared to others. P previews are already started and yet they are still dealing with the nonsense bugs which has already been solved in other roms.
I miss CM even more now.

scrubjay55 said:
Several of bugs that you mentioned are los bugs. It actually frustrated me that lineage 15.1 is full of bugs and way too behind compared to others. P previews are already started and yet they are still dealing with the nonsense bugs which has already been solved in other roms.
I miss CM even more now.
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We all miss Good Old Cm.

preyan said:
We all miss Good Old Cm.
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Why? LOS14.1 works perfect on my Kate. Battery is very good, all sensors are working, all features are working, speed is good...no showstoppers like BT-call in Oreo at all.

Lecterr said:
Why? LOS14.1 works perfect on my Kate. Battery is very good, all sensors are working, all features are working, speed is good...no showstoppers like BT-call in Oreo at all.
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Nostalgia is a weird thing my friend. CM has served us all for many years. Few years back CM was all we had to work with. Even though LOS replaced CM, it still lives in our hearts... and in many of our old devices too.
#Old&OutdatedStillGold

Yeah ,soon android p is going to launch and the devs will work to get a p based custom ROM

All oreo roms still use Nougat or older blobs and just overriding, so need to use a lot of shims and cause more bugs, most of bugs fixed already but still have completablity issue, so why oreo is not stable as Nougat

Marvin424242 said:
I'm on LokManSiu's LOS 15.1 + Agni Kernel + Magisk since 3 weeks.
I found only two bugs : bluetooth calls and SDcard with exfat are KO.
My SOT is 30min better than with Nougat. Play Store is certified and SafetyNet is OK. No FC. No problem with apps.
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I've been using LokManSiu'e LOS 15.1+ his kernel + magisk since 2 months or more i guess. Bluetooth calls and random reboots sometimes are the only bug i found works perfectly other than that.

This thred is about orea or nougat bt let me highlight another point.. Stock or miui.... I've been using stock for past 1 year.. I rooted my RN3 jus a month after i got it... I ws on RR nougat earlier then NOS oreo, AOSIP and many other ones on oreo.. To be frank after all those additional features i found stock roms to lack the basic functions.. Call quality dropped.. Proximity sensor was unstable so accidentally muted calls.. Gps fix took time.. Battery drained faster..cudnt reject calls from my smart watch.. After all this i thought about trying one of the ported miui 9 roms.. Trust me im much more happier.. I need my fone to be reliable evn if its less in features.

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This thred is about orea or nougat bt let me highlight another point.. Stock or miui.... I've been using stock for past 1 year.. I rooted my RN3 jus a month after i got it... I ws on RR nougat earlier then NOS oreo, AOSIP and many other ones on oreo.. To be frank after all those additional features i found stock roms to lack the basic functions.. Call quality dropped.. Proximity sensor was unstable so accidentally muted calls.. Gps fix took time.. Battery drained faster..cudnt reject calls from my smart watch.. After all this i thought about trying one of the ported miui 9 roms.. Trust me im much more happier.. I need my fone to be reliable evn if its less in features.
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Dnt ryt like... ths..

BlueJeans said:
Dnt ryt like... ths..
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What?

I tried to go back to MIUI (Epic on 7) and then MM Stock but I already miss too many features in Nougat, particularly PiP with vanced, then Gcam on MM, and I quite like the new pixel launcher. + split screen works well on AEX (with most apps) even if there is a huge battery loss I'd rather charge my phone more given my usage.

I'm using Oreo for months on my Kate. RR+Agni kernel, Magisk, Dolby does the job and with the right setup its rock stable, I have basically no problems at all.
LOS 15 has no official support for RM3 that's why it's so buggy. You should give others a try before judge after some weeks of using one that wasn't the best on Nougat either.
Anyway: anyone uses built in launchers of any ROM if that isn't Nova?

We are left behind with MM blobs which supported very well for N roms and thats the reason we have pretty stable N roms. IMHO official LOS 14.1 is the best custom rom till date for me(not a fan of much customization)... Battery backup is amazing with stock kernel and with magisk modules it satisfies all my needs. The only choice we have now is to wait for mi max N sources as its the only device we have a common chipset. Also xiaomi has launched 2 more devices and developers are now moving to the new devices we would expect a very less support soon for us. Stay strong brothers. If we had 625 chipset, we would have got stable awesome oreo builds by this time. Lucky rn4 nd mi A1 device users, they will surely have support till Android P...

It's good to know that someone has brought this up. Everyone is running for the latest and the greatest but forgetting the things we're leaving behind with Nougat. I've been on RR, AEX, NOS but it was all unreliable after a point. I decided to give LOS a try and there it was. Less features but good enough to keep me here. I miss ViperOS though. It was rock stable and with tons of features. The only thing I miss on LOS is Substratum support. All my themes that I bought has gone waste lol. Wish there was still support for Nougat based ROMs like LOS. Only if there was Substratum support...
Can anyone suggest me a few?

[Discussion] Zuk Z2 Plus - most stable / least buggy ROM for regular use

Fellow Z2 Plus users,
We have always seen discussion about best rom..with features x,y,z etc etc. Now when one says best, which is quite subjective depending upon user, mostly focus is around all the features/customizations of the world and not to mention best battery, best performance and what not.
Here I am flipping the question and seek feedback & suggestions from fellow Zuk Z2 users on the ROMs which they find :
1) Least buggy - given some bugs will be always there
2) Stable - suitable for daily use with no surprises
3) Battery Optimized for performance but with priority being battery
4) Suitable for Daily Regular Use - wallets, bank apps, sync, 4G / wifi, good photos
So while the suggested ROM might not have few missing features (like ViLTE) and might have only limited customizations, but it remains overall robust and stable enough to be used regularly for next few months.
I agree that regular updates are good to have but then with development moving to P soon, the current build of suggested ROM should be such that without updates it should work fine
Request if fellow users can suggest their preferred ROM(s) on above criteria with at least minimum details of ROM like name, version and the build.
If further details can be provided like what is missing (say ViLTE etc) it will be wonderful for others! Thanks in advance to all for their feedback.
Sorry if this is a repeat but think at this juncture when the transition is about to happen to Android P we should have a list of stable roms handy.
EDIT 16th July 2020 :
It is close to 2 years since thread was started and discussions are still ON thanks to loyal users. Also if I may say, part credit also goes to phone's good build quality that it is still worth using for many
When this thread was started, we were in initial days of developers transitioning from Oreo to Pie ROM and today, we already have loads of Q ROMs.
Having said that, general preference, if we need a stable balanced ROM is to continue on Pie ROMs versus Q ROMs - no surprises here !!

vuckovic_stefan said:
-Change it under Settings > Network & Internet > Private DNS
Adguard DNS:
dns.adguard.com
I had to use Activity launcher app for that meny because its hidden on miui 11 lol. If u also need that app, type in search network then find under settings - MORE. There u will find option.
Im glad u r happy with your device mate... I was considering Realme 6 Pro but I didnt like that 2 cameras in left corner. I like to see notifications there . So i decided to go with Xiaomi
Also here, it is the same, miui is heavy but apps stay in memory mostly, 6 gb LPDDR4X RAM, 64 GB UFS Storage 2.1. I couldnt find 128 GB model but i dont need it anyway, I would have buy it just because small difference in price. Cameras are real upgrade over Zuk, I also installed Gcam. Amoled is nice also.
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Thank you for the work around.. I tried the non root method in adaway but wasnt that good.. changing DNS works much better.. I even updated this in my router..
I also don't like hole punch.. water drop notch is ok..
Hope all cameras are able to use GCam..
Your trick for miui worked as well.. Thank you again for that.
Stay safe and keep modding

Feedbacks Summarized
Thanks to all for sharing feedbacks/experiences. I am summarizing below, with focus on Oreo ROMs!.
EDIT 16th July 2020 : in last 2 years, we have also seen good development in terms of Pie & Q ROMs. So now we have some recommendations on stable and good for daily use Pie ROMs too
OREO ROMs (update basis discussions till Nov'18)
Resurrection Remix RR 6.2.1 Oreo is considered good by most - received feedbacks from @seking @Thisisaarush @Z750z @NaXal
One open issue: No auto call record
It has loads of Customizations, the final build released updated with Oct'18 security patches.
MIUI 10 ROM seems to be a good choice too as per feedback from @sivaramareddy @sidS6
It is stable and has good battery life
AEX 5.7 Oreo seems quite good as per feedback from @Vishwanath01 @sivaramareddy @suvankar.smart
They have not shared much details but what I see is that v5.7 is recommended by all even when the latest is v5.8. This ROM not updated after Aug'18
Download from versions availablehere
Jaguar Oreo is recommended as per feedback from @sanjay.2704 @seking @mGforCe
There seems to be battery issue/lag after couple of weeks of use. But with the entirely rebased ROM released, there are lot of hopes. Finally VoLTE working too - was broken since June build.
Hopefully the battery issue is resolved after few builds of the Rebase ROM. Having said that - this ROM is worth watching for!! The best thing is that dev is updating atleast once a month. With issues being reported, he updated within few weeks too!!
Pls note that have considered only those comments which had some level of details. Also there were more recommendations but since supported by only 1 user not included in the summary.
PIE ROMs (update basis discussions till Jun'20)
[Official - k4.4 // Beta - k4.9] AOSiP Pie is considered good by many and am @mGforCe using for last few months.
One open issue: Think Miracast doesn't work. The final build released has Sep'19 security patches. Link here
[ROM][9.0][TREBLE] SuperiorOS is also recommended one and we have @vuckovic_stefan using in on and off (when not trying other ROMs )
The final official build released has Oct'19 security patches. Link here
There is also an unofficial build released with Apr'20 security patches. Link here, credits @vuckovic_stefan

Bootleggers and Cardinal lastest. I have no idea about Volte because we don't have it here.

AOSP Extended 5.7 latest

Aosip rom is a clear winner, It's the best in every sector.. !

For me, as of now... Latest AEX 5.7 seems pretty stable and Recently I have tried one ROM that totally amazed me.... MIUI 10 ROM. It's very stable, considerably less heat with great performance and great battery life (6.5 -7 hrs SOT with Normal to Medium usage which include Browsing, Streaming, Instant Messaging etc). Coming to Gaming especially PUBG is a lot less laggy when compared to other ROM's when played with HD settings.
So, apart from the latest AOSP Extended(AEX) 5.7, I would recommend to try the latest MIUI 10 ROM too...

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Bootleggers and Cardinal lastest. I have no idea about Volte because we don't have it here.
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Thanks for sharing feedback. So you mean below ROMs:
BootleggersROM 2.3 (8.1.0) dated 08-07-18
Cardinal-AOSP 5.7 (8.1.0) dated 14-07-18
Any issues/bug noted at all? This will help in collating feedback with known issues etc.
Vishwanath01 said:
AOSP Extended 5.7 latest
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Thanks for sharing feedback. Regarding AEX 5.7 (8.1.0) have you noted any bugs at all? Or everything working well.
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For me, as of now... Latest AEX 5.7 seems pretty stable and Recently I have tried one ROM that totally amazed me.... MIUI 10 ROM. It's very stable, considerably less heat with great performance and great battery life (6.5 -7 hrs SOT with Normal to Medium usage which include Browsing, Streaming, Instant Messaging etc). Coming to Gaming especially PUBG is a lot less laggy when compared to other ROM's when played with HD settings.
So, apart from the latest AOSP Extended(AEX) 5.7, I would recommend to try the latest MIUI 10 ROM too...
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Thanks for sharing feedback. AEX 5.7 (8.1.0) noted. As discussed, any known issue here as per your experience?
MIUI 10 ROM - hmm, interesting. For my own Redmi Note 3 always moved out from MIUI to AOSP / LOS roms . Will be interesting to try. Again, for completeness, any issues/bugs noted/known here?
Between MIUI / AEX which will be one you choose?
himanshu.devsah said:
Aosip rom is a clear winner, It's the best in every sector.. !
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Thanks for sharing feedback. So you mean Android Open Source Illusion Project (8.1.0) - AOSIP right?
Any bugs/issues noted here? Or all perfectly working. It will be helpful to note of even 1-2 small issues to have right feedback.

Bump, request users to pls give feedback

Miui 10 by narshi shukla.. best overall in terms of stability and battery life

sidS6 said:
Miui 10 by narshi shukla.. best overall in terms of stability and battery life
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MIUI 10 ROM - hmm, interesting. For my Redmi Note 3 always moved out from MIUI to AOSP / LOS roms
Again, for completeness, any known issues/bugs with MIUI?

Reserruction Remix ,,,==> the best and most stable from all other roms ,,,???
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Reserruction Remix os, the best and most stable rom from all,,,,???

Having a blast with #oxicOs since Viper and dot died
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Hello,
Most of the ROMs here are pretty stable as daily driver. Some are little better with some aspect of usage, like for example, in general, non treble ROMs better with heavy games like PubG compare to Treble. Now that doesn't mean treble ROMs suck with PubG, its just marginally lower grfx details for smoother playing exp.
Ever since introduction of treble, for last few months, I have been only with treble, so I can only comment on Treble ROMs. I have tried PE, AEX, AiCP, RR (Treble), crDroid and let me tell you all are equally good. However, having said that, few lose their edge time to time with some random update and it happens with all. So as an user, you will find your self switching between few time to time.
All these ROMs easily offer 6 hours 30 mins or more SoT for daily use (except heavy gaming). Game on them and SoT will come down based on how hard you are playing. Usually for heavy gamer, SoT is around 4 hours or bit less. All these ROMs have everything function, from finger print to Bluetooth.
At present, I am with RR 6.1. Switched from AiCP since at this point, for few previously weekly, AiCP is having some performance issue. Not that its slow, but RR feels little better compare to AiCP. Who knows, may be with next weekly, AiCP may out perform anything else.
Biggest point is, thanks to all these hardworking devs, I am spoiled with choices. So many of them. All are equally good but with some many options, I am spoiled to write comparison even for these slightest issues.
So its really hard or would be unfair to name single ROM to sum up the answer !!
Thanks.

Z750z said:
Reserruction Remix ,,,==> the best and most stable from all other roms ,,,
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Thanks, any specific version which is most stable?
imarco.box said:
Having a blast with #oxicOs since Viper and dot died
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Thanks, any specific version which is stable?
@NaXal appreciate you taking out time to write a detailed reply.
NaXal said:
At present, I am with RR 6.1. Switched from AiCP since at this point, for few previously weekly, AiCP is having some performance issue. Not that its slow, but RR feels little better compare to AiCP. Who knows, may be with next weekly, AiCP may out perform anything else.
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Which build of RR? Can you elaborate what specific improvements do you see?
NaXal said:
Biggest point is, thanks to all these hardworking devs, I am spoiled with choices. So many of them. All are equally good but with some many options, I am spoiled to write comparison even for these slightest issues.
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Indeed, very true :good:

mGforCe said:
Which build of RR? Can you elaborate what specific improvements do you see?
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Consider me a typical dumbass phone user. I strive for a functional device which allows me fast performance and all features should work fine. I don't like poking with things unless they are broken as like your question, I am looking for stability and I am willing to sacrifice bit of performance edge for that.
Now regarding improvement, what to compare with is the biggest question. If you want to compare this with Stock Indian ZUI 2.5 (Indian), its a heaven and hell of a difference !! But if you talk about other contemporary ROMs, there isn't much to separate them. It would come down to your personal choice of flavor .
Consider this buying a litter class super bike or super car in India. Anything you buy would be light years ahead of what average Joe is riding but when you want to chose between similar option, it would ultimately come down to personal preference !!
Regarding my setup, I am with the latest Version of RR 6.1 Treble (without any extra mod or kernel) + Open GApps Nano. Running Apex Launcher v3.3.3 along with Pixel Icon Pack (from Play Store). I have mentioned my issues or liking in that respective thread !!
Thanks.

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Enviado do meu Z2 Plus através do Tapatalk

I am using Liquid Remix [8.1] [v9.1.4] [OFFICIAL] [08/10/2018][NON-TREBLE]
I listen to music and after installing viperfx magix module and modded you tube my requirement is met. Along with this I also use on application called "The Raging Beast KA" , see screenshot, which allows kernel level tweaking of sound ie increasing sound of left channel and right channel separately and it gives excellent sound. I also require volte as I use jio sim and net speed should be fast.
So the above are my requirements and everybody has their own requirements. All ROMs stable. But they differ on the following
1 heat. Some ROMs heat up
2 performance.
3 tweaks. Some ROMs contain more tweaks
4 volte. Some ROMs will not have volte
Installing ROMs are individual preferences and all ROMs are stable.
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Guys,
Thanks for the feedback earlier. Bumping old thread to see if any update / revision in choices basis past 2-3 months?
Now that we have more or less final version of Oreo (though fortunately, some O ROMs are still getting security updates), the options are not likely to change further.
So far, have been using Jaguar Aug'18 build - worked quite well but in last few weeks seeing 10-12% battery drain overnight. Today am going to flash Oct'18 build to see if any changes.

CrDroiD is Best
i have used all oreo except RR..
I find CrDroid the best Rom of all times.
no issues at all.. be it SOT.. consistent 7-7.5 hours with moderate usage.. BT music play for 2-3 hours daily, phone calls for hour or so 1 hour of game play A8 & tekken.. all banking apps running including Tez..
Tons of customization. Built in adaway as well .. i dont think any feature is missing in this Rom. except 2.
1. Pocket detection - causes many failed FP.
2. auto call record - call record is present but u have to enable it in each call.
if some one with rom build knowledge can include this and update security patches then this would be a complete rom.
planning to try RR as dotos is giving very low SOT.. staying on that coz it has auto call record and pocket detect.

sanjay.2704 said:
i have used all oreo except RR..
I find CrDroid the best Rom of all times.
no issues at all.. be it SOT.. consistent 7-7.5 hours with moderate usage.. BT music play for 2-3 hours daily, phone calls for hour or so 1 hour of game play A8 & tekken.. all banking apps running including Tez..
Tons of customization. Built in adaway as well .. i dont think any feature is missing in this Rom. except 2.
1. Pocket detection - causes many failed FP.
2. auto call record - call record is present but u have to enable it in each call.
if some one with rom build knowledge can include this and update security patches then this would be a complete rom.
planning to try RR as dotos is giving very low SOT.. staying on that coz it has auto call record and pocket detect.
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Which version?

Want to update but cannot make a decission

I've been browsing most of the current builds in the forum but it's been harsh to make a decision on which to take nowadays. Android Q builds seems to be unstable with some things not functioning, and Android P like Pixel Experience have been deprecated with no additional security patches in the past 4 or 5 months.
So far, the only build that seems to keep updated is LOS 16 with Android PIE and I understand that is the best option to get best from both worlds: latest security patches + fully functional ROM without glitches or hardware issues.
Which is your experience? Anything else that I shall consider?

MiSSigNNo said:
I've been browsing most of the current builds in the forum but it's been harsh to make a decision on which to take nowadays. Android Q builds seems to be unstable with some things not functioning, and Android P like Pixel Experience have been deprecated with no additional security patches in the past 4 or 5 months.
So far, the only build that seems to keep updated is LOS 16 with Android PIE and I understand that is the best option to get best from both worlds: latest security patches + fully functional ROM without glitches or hardware issues.
Which is your experience? Anything else that I shall consider?
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Try AOSPExtented ROM by _undead
Currently I am also using the same ROM
It really good with good battery life and smooth performance
Also it is the only Android Q rom with volte working

aggtanishq1 said:
Try AOSPExtented ROM by _undead
Currently I am also using the same ROM
It really good with good battery life and smooth performance
Also it is the only Android Q rom with volte working
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I did not find time to update, so now, after they released 7.1 I think I'm going to stick to AOSP Extended with Android 10. Looks really awesome

Suggestions for stable custom rom (help)

I would like to bring Xiaomi Redmi 3s Prime 32/3 to life. It's still on stock MIUI 7 (V7.5.9.0.) Why? Because that ROM was really good and there was no need for update because everything was working OK. But now more and more apps requires a newer version of Android, so I need custom rom.
Anything stable from Android 8 and above will be OK.
I thought try with PixelExperience, but unfortunately they have just 11 version, no archive for older versions. At least I couldn't find it. So if that version is no good, can't try older one.
But I see there is PixelReloaded with 9 and 10 version still available.
Then there is ArrowOS, it's great thing that they still have all versions available for download, 9, 10 and 11.
I saw thread from @Atam2001 his experience with ROMs. Where he mentioned Nitrogen-OS-10 was great for him, and Superior OS was suggests as well as good ROM.
I do not looking nothing fancy, just something that is fluid and reliable.
Which rom and version you were very happy?

In case of 3GB variant you can go with FLOS 18.1 or Havoc 4.x or AEX A11 by Sairam. In my 2GB variant A11 unlike A10 is just too memory hungry for a reasonable multitasking experience. Havoc 3.11 based on A10 was really good. Fluid and bug free. I have been running FLOS 18.1 in land for several months without any issue.
If you need the best multitasking experience Pie ROMs with low RAM mod is the best and reasonably upto date option. In my 2GB device I had almost always 1GB RAM free. However other than Nichcream's LOS 16 build based on 4.9 kernel from late 2019 all the others are based on the stock 3.18 kernel and usually have quite a few bugs. I had tried many Pie ROMs based on 3.18 but was never satisfied until Q ROMs arrived with 4.9 kernel.

amn1987 said:
In case of 3GB variant you can go with FLOS 18.1 or Havoc 4.x or AEX A11 by Sairam. In my 2GB variant A11 unlike A10 is just too memory hungry for a reasonable multitasking experience. Havoc 3.11 based on A10 was really good. Fluid and bug free. I have been running FLOS 18.1 in land for several months without any issue.
If you need the best multitasking experience Pie ROMs with low RAM mod is the best and reasonably upto date option. In my 2GB device I had almost always 1GB RAM free. However other than Nichcream's LOS 16 build based on 4.9 kernel from late 2019 all the others are based on the stock 3.18 kernel and usually have quite a few bugs. I had tried many Pie ROMs based on 3.18 but was never satisfied until Q ROMs arrived with 4.9 kernel.
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@amn1987 Thank you so much for reply
My idea was to start first with the lower android version. Because more people were working on development at the time.
So I tried with SuperiorOS Android 9 (20190824-0147).
The first problem was, system launcher was not working, I always get an error message. So, new launcher fixed the problem.
After two weeks of use everything was fine. Good battery life, wifi/mobile data OK, GPS, banking applications working, google cam OK.
Then sometimes it starts to reset himself. Or I couldn't turn it on. And date and time would be wrong. It doesn’t happen often but it's a sign to try something else.
Thanks for the details I will try something from your suggestion.

Forgot to mention that idle drain was mind bogglingly good in Q ROMs with 4.9 kernel, 0.1-0.15%/h almost always. In R ROMs, idle drain is a little higher at close to 0.3%/h. Does go as low as 0.1%/h but infrequently. 2G only, Sync off, Wifi/GPS off, BT on always but not paired constantly. Using NikGApps which has GMS Doze enabled.

To report back...
After SuperiorOS Android 9, I tried Havoc 3.11 based on Android 10. And it's much better. There is no random restarting, or problem with date/time like I had on SuperiorOS. Here everything working great! And all bank apps working with no problem, even there is no message that you using custom rom. Sairam did amazing job. There is a lot useful features, like app lock, double tap and so on...
After use MIUI based on Android 6, this is like a new phone.
Happy with HavocOS

Recently a new build of LOS 16 with 4.9 kernel was released by the dev "Cafebabe" on TG who nowadays seems to spearhead the development for land albeit most builds are seemingly unified builds also targeting riva, santoni etc. For my 2GB variant it could be the best option although Havoc 3.11 was very good as well.

I am honestly disappointed with how the battery works on custom roms.
I use camera recording (like a car video recorder) and on MIUI (stock) I can record 4 hours with minutes because that's what the battery allows.
But on most current custom roms, I don't even hit 3h, 2.5h on average. In addition, you can see the battery % drops faster and at 40% it can turn off as if it were 0%. And after a few minutes, it can be turned on and there is 20% or more of the battery. And I thought the battery was ending its life. But I flash the stock rom and it works like hassle ...

keemi said:
I am honestly disappointed with how the battery works on custom roms.
I use camera recording (like a car video recorder) and on MIUI (stock) I can record 4 hours with minutes because that's what the battery allows.
But on most current custom roms, I don't even hit 3h, 2.5h on average. In addition, you can see the battery % drops faster and at 40% it can turn off as if it were 0%. And after a few minutes, it can be turned on and there is 20% or more of the battery. And I thought the battery was ending its life. But I flash the stock rom and it works like hassle ...
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Have you tried Q/R ROMs based on 4.9 kernel? In particular the ones by Sairam like Fork LOS, Havoc etc. While I haven't tested video recording but otherwise battery backup is excellent. Just about a month ago 10+ hours during offline video playback. Battery goes down to low single-digits w/o any issue. BTW you could enable bypass charging to take the stress off of the battery and prolong it's longevity.

You know, the most important thing here is the use that uses a lot of batteries.
And here only the MIUI custom roms (miuiEU, Android 7.1.2, Android 9, although the battery in 9 also lose a little faster) are comparable.
A long time ago - nichcream roms somehow worked fine with the battery.
Anyway, I thought most of the new ones were good until I started using the camera intensively.
I have used his custom roms and others too, and I don't know what's wrong...
Everywhere the battery is melting (when i use the camera) in the eyes except the MIUI based roms.

Well video recording is pretty resource intensive. No wonder it drains the battery. I might check it out if a relatively cooler day is in the offing.