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Is the Rogers magic the right one for me?

Hello everyone, Ive been a long time reader of xda, have an htc advantage, htc touch dual, and an htc wing. I have flashed more roms to my advantage than i could ever remember, sadly I forgot my old username so here I am with a new one
Lately I have only been using my advantage as a bedside alarm clock, and I want to try Android. I prefer the body lines of the hero, but I would like the future option of using 3g. I am in Alaska and using tmobile. I would like to switch to ATT at some point in the future, and currently there is NO 3g service where i am in alaska with either providers. From what I can tell, the Rogers version of the magic is hands down the one to get if you want to run the hero rom. Ive read many posts that say it lags with the 192mb versions. I also want to get as full of a google experience as possible...OTA updates, Access to the Android Marketplace, google maps etc. Can anyone confirm that if I purchased an unlocked rogers magic off ebay, would I be able to get OTA updates over an edge connection in the USA? I do believe that the rogers magic should have the bands to work with ATT 3g right? As I said, there is no 3g service here, but when i switch to ATT later, and travel I would like to utilize the 3g. Just looking for some insight on what will more than likely be my next phone. Planning on purchasing tonight if we can come up with some answers!

The Rogers Magic will run on AT&T but not on T-MO.
You get access to the Market but not paid apps, you'll have to root to get full access.
You wont get OTA updates from Rogers, I'm a customer and they told me no go on OS updates. Have to contact HTC for that, but if your rooted does it matter?
Flash the latest/greatest ROM.
Clinton

ok well The Rogers has the 288MB you want:
and it also works on tmobile edge but on 3G however it works on att edge/3G. so if your thinking of swicthing over to att than this is the phone for you.

Ok, so if I root the phone, then I would have complete access to the android market? If purchasing an unlocked Rogers Magic, do i need to worry about getting one of the "perfect spl"s that isnt rootable yet, or is that only an issue for other versions?

Yep you'll have full access if you install "Market Enabler" after you root. I have not heard of any Rogers Magic haveing the "perfect SPL" I think so far it's only for the MyTouch and Hero.
Clinton

ClintonH is correct all available Roger Magics in the market are rootable.

Awesome, thanks for the great information. Looks like I will be purchasing one from ebay this weekend, unless you guys can recommend any reputable online shops to order from. I'll be just using the edge connection on it for a little while until i figure out how im going to get outta my tmobile contract...I currently have two active numbers under my contract with tmobile Not in much of a hurry though as i'll only be able to utilize the 3g when im travelling.

I actually have one fs on Ebay right now. Check out dgravo27 . It is the Rogers version.

Looks like yours isnt for sale anymore Dgravo, I just bought it! Too many other ones listed with 288 mb ram, however, they have the vodaphone logo and I dont think half the sellers even know whats inside their phones.

Is there a non T-Mobile firmware for the vibrant?

My friend has a custom Captivate firmware not from AT&T. I was wondering, if there is something similar for the Vibrant? I notice that the T-Mobile really tried to make the Vibrant be an iPhone with their UI. Is there a way to get an original (custom) i9000 firmware with all working buttons and the 3g working? I see there are not as many choices for T-Mobile because of the lack of 3G bands. All the T-Mobile customization with this android phone seems to annoy me, from the T-Mobile boot splash screen to all the bloatware they put on this phone. I also read that I have to ask for the firmware here in the forums since it is T-Mobile USA.

airman010 said:
I also read that I have to ask for the firmware here in the forums since it is T-Mobile USA.
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For hacked Vibrant firmware on the XDA site, you need to look in the Vibrant Android Development forum.

I guess the correct term I was looking for is debranding the phone. I'll check out the link. Thanks

What setup for Verizon

Ok, I read that official support for the Axon 7 on Verizon's network is a no go. I've got one that I had active on VZW last year when I had to return my Note 7, but I just couldn't deal with the foibles (like constant roaming icon, and occasional LTE signal loss).
Question: if I want to use it again, what is recommended as far as rom, settings, tweaks, etc...to make it as trouble free as possible. My son is using it now on T-Mobile, but I want to move him over to our Verizon plan now that they offer unlimited again.
What are you using?
Any help is appreciated.

If you flash any custom room that is not based on stock miui, it will perfectly on Verizon, I myself use it on Verizon and as long as you change the room of the device it will run well on Verizon as it was a regular Verizon phone

tedkord said:
Ok, I read that official support for the Axon 7 on Verizon's network is a no go. I've got one that I had active on VZW last year when I had to return my Note 7, but I just couldn't deal with the foibles (like constant roaming icon, and occasional LTE signal loss).
Question: if I want to use it again, what is recommended as far as rom, settings, tweaks, etc...to make it as trouble free as possible. My son is using it now on T-Mobile, but I want to move him over to our Verizon plan now that they offer unlimited again.
What are you using?
Any help is appreciated.
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Nougat fixed many of the Verizon issues, and even included Verizon VoLTE support. I've had no issues with Verizon on LOS, seen others use stock fine as well.

Verizon fully working on stock? In call web browsing, VoLte and LTE+?
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Nougat fixed many of the Verizon issues, and even included Verizon VoLTE support. I've had no issues with Verizon on LOS, seen others use stock fine as well.
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hey there sorry to bother you and I know this is an old thread but I need some direction here. I'm currently using L.o.s RR on the A2017U 64gb cause I was under the impression that it was the only way to get Verizon fully working. Maybe I missed understood you but did you say any nougat stock rom will also allow me to use Verizon fully? And if so can you point me to a good one? My phone is sluggish as hell right now with RR I'm using and I think I rather go back to stock. Not to mention I'm missing the great audio I had lol. Not worth it in my opinion. Thanks in advance.

Factory unlocked vs T-mobile version

So I ordered a oneplus 6t factory unlocked on ebay. What I got was a T-mobile locked device, that when I tried to unlock actually did.
My question though is are there annoyances with using the t-mobile version on another carrier (t-mobile apps or any radio differences) that would warrant me to return it or should I just give them a low rating.
thanks!

Uh. Not sure. I have an International Variant but I've heard that there is the usual T-MOBILE Bloatware. But you can easily convert it to Global Variant by following the Guide in the Guides Forum. Just search T-MOBILE to International Conversion OnePlus 6T

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So I ordered a oneplus 6t factory unlocked on ebay. What I got was a T-mobile locked device, that when I tried to unlock actually did.
My question though is are there annoyances with using the t-mobile version on another carrier (t-mobile apps or any radio differences) that would warrant me to return it or should I just give them a low rating.
thanks!
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That's on the seller to provide as MUCH information he can provide before he lists. I'd say if it works out for you in the end, it's fine. But....I would message him and see if he does know the difference between T-Mo and Int'l.
I would take the T-mo and flash Int'l, honestly. T-Mo is slow to update, and there's an Int'l Beta release almost every month. I think the official T-mo is 4 or 5 months behind.
Let us know!

The TMobile version is not the international version in my opinion. On top of not getting regular updates like the unbranded version. They have been trying to do things in newer software versions to prevent people from flashing it to international versions by adding extra checks, not that it has worked so far. The international version is also dual SIM and has two IMEI, the TMobile version only has one. I guess it depends what you paid for it, but I would not accept a TMobile version personally.

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The TMobile version is not the international version in my opinion. On top of not getting regular updates like the unbranded version. They have been trying to do things in newer software versions to prevent people from flashing it to international versions by adding extra checks, not that it has worked so far. The international version is also dual SIM and has two IMEI, the TMobile version only has one. I guess it depends what you paid for it, but I would not accept a TMobile version personally.
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I agree completely.

Honestly, it doesn't really matter considering you can very simply convert a T-Mobile version into an International version.
The T-Mobile version by default is a few updates behind and doesn't support dual sim iirc. Like I said though, you can easily convert it and buy a sim card tray that supports dual sim if that's your thing.

Flashing T-mobile firmware on Unlocked variant

Hello, I am well aware of the fact that you can flash the international firmware on a T-mobile branded device. However, is it possible to flash the t-mobile firmware on the international version of the phone? If it is indeed possible are there any benefits to doing this? Such as RCS, or USCC roaming? Maybe even better reception? Any help would be great. I am genuinely just curious. Thank you.

From what I can see, there would only be disadvantages. TMo has suffered another data breach, see here, and they are at least 1 month behind the general releases for non TMo OP devices (I really only looked at the 6T for that evidence)
I recommend saving your time and not researching that further, but if you wanna, go for it.