Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
I use USB Ethernet adapters with Android HDMI sticks all the time. The Android Sticks have either full Size USB, an Ethernet Connection, or I use an OTG cable.
I would think that the OTG cable and USB Ethernet adapter would work with the Nexus Player, unless they specifically took the drivers out. Common or Generic chipset USB Ethernet Drivers seem to be pretty well supported in most Android Firmwares.
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Sorry to double post, but if you are wondering how a USB Ethernet adapter would be connected to a Nexus Player, you would just need one of these:
http://www.dx.com/p/cy-u2-166-usb-f...-adapter-cable-black-15cm-205901#.VD_RJLYXw3A
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
thecrunked said:
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
Linuxslate said:
I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
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yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
Since it is relevant to this thread (at least a bit), I'm going to go ahead and post a link to an article on my website:
http://linuxslate.com/Guide_Android_Stick_TV_Box.html
I am NOT trying to dissuade anybody from buying the Nexus player. If you have good wifi and you don't want the headaches associated with a Chinese media player, the Nexus Player is an excellent choice.
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thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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The official page says:
18W DC power
HDMI out ([email protected])
Micro-USB 2.0
So that's a separate power jack, and then USB for OTG or firmware updates or whatever.
Note that you don't want to get too new of a dongle, because if this doesn't have the absolute latest Linux kernel it might not support some of the newer gigabit dongles.
thecrunked said:
Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
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I can stream 1080p @ full Blu-Ray bitrate no problem..the problem is not the technology but likely your implementation. Also USB2 is limited to 256mb/s after overhead is subtracted. Thats far less than 802.11AC can do, I get a 890mb connection with a $15 .AC adapter on one of my PC's.
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I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
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If you have a lan drop and switch at your Entertainment center then your highest performance option is to add a access point to that switch, not to use a USB>Ethernet.
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yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
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I'm thinking about trying out the NexusPlayer to replace our FireTV...the FireTV is pretty great but its buggy and nobody seems to be trying to fix the bugs. Hulu loves to crash and has various other playback problems that we experience more than once a day (simply stops playing, or freezes, sometimes after a commercial the screen just goes black with a network logo[like ABC] but the audio is playing), Netflix also occasionally crashes back to the FireTV homescreen, Plex works ok sometimes but has trouble others, the plus is that it has Wifi+Ethernet+Optical. We previously had a Roku3 which was turtle slow compared to the FireTV. I should add that these bugs are widespread and common to many people, these are not issues limited to me or just a few people.
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
Linuxslate said:
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
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Well if your wireless is weak in that area, wouldn't a AP there benefit your other devices (laptops, tablets, phones?)? I agree that you don't NEED a acesspoint at every drop but we will always have a signifigant # of devices that cannot be wired these days so if you happen to have a drop in a room or area with weak WiFi it seems like the perfect opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Also in regards to your USB3 adapter, it won't do you any good with the NexusPlayer because it only has a USB2.0 port...still not a restriction for video though...265 is way above even the highest bitrate blu-ray.
Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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The ARK page (Intel's CPU library) shows USB 3.0 (and up to 4GB of RAM, while we're at it). Maybe it's a cost thing? No Ethernet is likely the same story. "If you really need it, get a dongle" they'd might say.
Everything about this box seems like Google is targeting it as a lowest-common-denominator device. Being Nexus, it's still somewhat of a developer device. "Make sure your apps can run on this, and you'll be good everywhere." Actually, that's possibly a big part of why the first Android TV device has an Intel chip. Force developers to start supporting x86, and then the TV manufacturers can put any chip they'd like into their TV.
Plus, this lets Google sell it for cheap, and then if other manufacturers want to come along and put together some Android TV luxury box with HDMI in and a USB 3 hub and 4 GB RAM and an eSATA port, go ahead.
An ethernet to USB adapter that worked
Just thought I would share a solution that worked for me.
I live in an apartment building in Manhattan that has a few hundred units and four other similarly sized buildings all within 100 yards plus a muli-plex movie house in even closer proximity.
I have a top-rated AC router and have run wi-fi analyzers to select the least crowded (and non-overlapping) 2.4 and 5 Ghz channels. 2.4 Ghz is essentially useless for streaming multimedia. Even with the 5 Ghz channel, casting music involves several buffering time-outs each minute.
Knew I had to go the USB to ethernet cable adapter route:
- first, I tried a too good-to-be true low-priced adapter on eBay. When plugged into the NP, an internal red LED light shined brightly through the white housing (almost like a Christmas light), but nothing.
- second, I tried a gigabyte adapter that stated in its product description that it was compatible out-of-the box with the NP. Bought it from directly from the vendor on Amazon. Came in brand new packaging and the adapter (plus included dongle cable, disc and instructions) all top-notch. Everything shouted quality compared to the first adapter ... but it also didn't work for me. I hoped it would and I hope it works for others who buy it. Just couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work for me. I tried what others suggested about unplugging the NP and rebooting the device to the root screen (holding the button on the bottom while powering and going through the menus). Also tried it with a PC. I just don't know what I did or didn't do right or why otherwise it wouldn't work.
- third, I looked at the pictures on the Internet depicting actual working adapters with the NP. Saw it was a SMC adapter. Then in a Reddit, I saw the model number mentioned. It is the: SMC Networks SMC2209USB/ETH 10/100 Mbps USB Ethernet Adapter. Bought it for $25 dollars on Amazon (see: amazon.com/gp/product/B00009967F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
Worked right out of the box! Just plugged it in (it evens comes with its own dongle cable).
One thing I realized from this, what people suggest "should" work with the NP and what IN ACTUAL FACT have been tested personally to work are different. I'm not a paid endorser of any company's products. I hope others share product names and model numbers of other adapters that they know from personal experience to also work out-of-the-box.
And as far as the buffering problems I had -- gone. The NP is actually usable now for multimedia content. I sure hope Google includes an Ethernet port when it comes out with a second generation NP.
dynadock?
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
natedogg118 said:
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
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Thank you for the brilliant idea. I happen to have a Toshibe Dynadock V2. Plugged it in and ethernet came straight up in the settings. I guess we can add this to the list of devices that work.
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
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Same issue here.
Nexus Player OTG usb is completely disabled.
No mouse, keyboard, Rii or Flash drive 2.0 or 3.0 ...
Nada, null, running Oreo 8.0
I recently purchased the OTG cable on amazon, the first result/best selling $7... No lights come up on the usbs or any form of power going through. While ADB works fine
I'm desperate so I will root it but how to fix with root?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LLUEJFU/
This ethernet/USB thing has worked great on my nexus player. Connected an SSD, put my HD Homerun on the same wired LAN, it's a great little DVR/timeshifting box.
MrCalico said:
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
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I managed to get it working too
Working fine here too. I have a USB ethernet hub connected by OTG cable.
Use it for wired internet and USB mouse.
Found a gigabit connection that works with FireTV. "iClever 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub with RJ45 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Converter LAN Wired Network Adapter for Laptops, Ultrabooks and Tablet PCs with USB Ports, Compatible with Windows XP/7/8, Mac OS-X, Linux Chromebook Anroid 4.0 and above" Here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KRTVOUE/
While I've enjoyed the FireTV, I've found that some of the programs I use on it are choked by the 100 megabit port (such as the HD Homerun View app), and I'd tried a couple of other USB LAN connectors without success. It seems the Android software doesn't have built in support for many USB gigabit products. This one was on sale (with a coupon) and I figured even if it didn't work, I'd still have 3 USB 3.0 ports, but lo and behold, the Fire recognizes not only the USB but the gigabit port, which helps with the throughput from other parts of my network, including the HD Homerun View app. On the app, HD channels are actually watchable, including DRM channels in HD.
I searched the forums, and saw others looking for the same, so figured I'd report my findings.
the plugable USB2.0 -> "gigabit" ethernet adapters i used on my Gen1 ATV work fine with the firetv as well.
Note that fireTV is usb2.0 only, so your network is limited to ~400 megabits due to the USB Bus speed but it will negotiate at 1000mbps.
mattvirus said:
the plugable USB2.0 -> "gigabit" ethernet adapters i used on my Gen1 ATV work fine with the firetv as well.
Note that fireTV is usb2.0 only, so your network is limited to ~400 megabits due to the USB Bus speed but it will negotiate at 1000mbps.
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I'd tried a couple of the Pluggables without success. Maybe it was the firmware updates and my timing. And right about the limitations of throughput; maybe my experience is more perception than reality, but for the price ($13 with coupon) the improvement coupled with the additional USB ports make it worthwhile.
Can you post the model/part numbers of the Pluggables you've had success with in the event others are looking to attempt the same thing?
this topic has been discussed numerous times already, FireTv has USB 2.0 and not USB 3.0 so those gigabit adapters will work, just not yeild gigabit speeds.
Check out my Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/general/firetv-vs-nexus-player-vs-ouya-vs-mojo-t2945627
Where i compare the ethernet speeds between FireTV with Fastethernet port (4.18MB/s over SFTP) vs Open Hour Chameleon with Gigabit Port(7.13MB/s over SFTP)
Wait for the Forge TV or the Nvidia Shield for gigabit speeds.
Yeah, I was looking for specific models that worked specifically with AFTV. I didn't see much along those lines, more anecdotal reports of speed and whatnot. Mods can delete this if it seems duplicative, that's fine.
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Can you post the model/part numbers of the Pluggables you've had success with in the event others are looking to attempt the same thing?
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http://plugable.com/products/usb2-e1000
I used that adapter on my Gen1 ATV's and it's what I've used on the firetv's as well.
mattvirus said:
the plugable USB2.0 -> "gigabit" ethernet adapters i used on my Gen1 ATV work fine with the firetv as well.
Note that fireTV is usb2.0 only, so your network is limited to ~400 megabits due to the USB Bus speed but it will negotiate at 1000mbps.
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How did you get this to work with your AFTV? I plugged it into the USB port and It was not recognized.
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I'd tried a couple of the Pluggables without success. Maybe it was the firmware updates and my timing. And right about the limitations of throughput; maybe my experience is more perception than reality, but for the price ($13 with coupon) the improvement coupled with the additional USB ports make it worthwhile.
Can you post the model/part numbers of the Pluggables you've had success with in the event others are looking to attempt the same thing?
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It is "Plugable" and you need an OTG adapter to use the non-OTG version:
"Since the UGREEN adapter doesn’t have OTG capabilities (which is a good thing), you’re going to need to use an OTG adapter to connect it to the Fire TV or Fire TV Stick. Either this Generic OTG Adapter or this Angle OTG Adapter will work. The generic OTG adapter gives you a bit more cable length and flexibility with positioning, but the angle OTG adapter gives you a cleaner setup with fewer cables. I’ve verified that both work with the Fire TV 3 and Fire TV Stick 2, so the choice is yours" change to according to UGREEN info at AFTVNEWS.
Essentially you are adding a USB port, plus a power port to the small port on the AFTV. You still need to get a few extra USB ports in your adapter or settle for one with just Ethernet, however UGREEN and plugable sell versions that are not Gigabit and won't get 480mbps out of the 2.0, or will sacrifice the speed sharing it with the other peripherals according to some reviews.
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ddivita said:
How did you get this to work with your AFTV? I plugged it into the USB port and It was not recognized.
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You need an OTG "On The Go" adapter, it was an android/Linux idea that allowed plugging regular USB keyboards and devices into micro USB on a phone or tablet. You get that adapter then you plug your 10/100 Mbps or 1000 (limited to 480 on 2.0) Mbps devices. Examples are FunHome or Fun-Home left angle OTG adapter or DSYJ micro USB adapter on Amazon.
Some other cables don't have a power connector though so you might not want one without both a micro-USB and USB input.
Anyone else getting streaming issues while using a USB Ethernet adapter??
Specifically, I am using a Monoprice USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter. We have Time Warner 40.0, and I have it plugged into the Ubee Modem/Router (absolutely hate this thing because we already have a TPLink Archer C7)
While watching Netflix we get a lot of random freezing throughout videos, Hulu will get stuck on "loading" after playing ads. The only real upside is that HD kicks in a lot quicker.
Of course, if I disable the ethernet and use the 5ghz connection then it runs fine but is not as stable as having a wired connection.
I am guessing the issue lies within the adapter, or the network?
Nephilim3883 said:
Anyone else getting streaming issues while using a USB Ethernet adapter??
Specifically, I am using a Monoprice USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter. We have Time Warner 40.0, and I have it plugged into the Ubee Modem/Router (absolutely hate this thing because we already have a TPLink Archer C7)
While watching Netflix we get a lot of random freezing throughout videos, Hulu will get stuck on "loading" after playing ads. The only real upside is that HD kicks in a lot quicker.
Of course, if I disable the ethernet and use the 5ghz connection then it runs fine but is not as stable as having a wired connection.
I am guessing the issue lies within the adapter, or the network?
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I can't speak for the Monoprice adapter but the Inateck adapter I have has been working perfectly fine. Just streamed a round of Hulu last night as well as casting streams. I do want to note that Hulu does glitch every once and awhile but I think its related to app issues.
I use 802.11ac on the 5 GHz band for fast and generally stable wireless performance. Keep in mind that even if your Ethernet adapter can handle Gigabit speeds, the Nexus Player uses a USB 2.0 interface which means that it only allows up to 480 Mbps through that port. Perhaps that's causing your Ethernet adapter to fall back to the 100 Mbps speed limit associated with the older Fast Ethernet standard.
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I use 802.11ac on the 5 GHz band for fast and generally stable wireless performance. Keep in mind that even if your Ethernet adapter can handle Gigabit speeds, the Nexus Player uses a USB 2.0 interface which means that it only allows up to 480 Mbps through that port. Perhaps that's causing your Ethernet adapter to fall back to the 100 Mbps speed limit associated with the older Fast Ethernet standard.
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Yeah I am thinking I probably should've gone with a USB 2.0 10/100 adapter instead
Seems to be fixed after factory reset and flashing Android M DP 3
I have a OTG Micro-usb ethernet hub that works perfect with a regular Firestick 4k.
But when I try to use it with a new 4k Max, the 4k max refuses to see the wired ethernet connection.
I also need this "hub" to have a few USB ports on it for a memory stick and wireless keyboard transceiver.
Does anyone know for sure a hub on Amazon that will work with the "Max" version of the 4k firestick?
Hello,
According this thread,
https://www.reddit.com/r/firetvstick/comments/j0agpo
you have to use an AX88178 chipset like Ugreen.
I found one that is less expensive ($15) than the UGREEN one, and it doesn't require a separate OTG cable because this one already has a micro-usb connector on it - so that saves even more money because you don't have to buy one.
This OTG Hub is cool because it has three USB ports that you can plug in a memory card to store movies and/or pictures to display on the big screen.
And I personally verified that it works great with my 4k MAX firestick:
https://amzn.to/3trSzFp