Help: Using phone data while connected to AP with no internet - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

Ok I'm going to give this a shot. I've tried calling T-Mobile and OnePlus and they didn't know what I was talking about. I'm hoping someone here may understand and have a solution. I'm trying to connect my WiFi to an access point that doesn't have an internet connection and then use the internet from my mobile data connection at the same time. I have a drone that streams live video. By connecting to it's hot spot (access point), it allows live video streaming. It also allows control through points on Google maps and you can use satellite view. I can't get satellite view because while connected to it's access point, I have no internet to download the imagery. I have intelligent network connection, dual channel download acceleration, as well as mobile data always active (developer settings) enabled. Is what I've explained understandable? Can someone help. I prefer not to use a third party app since obviously the phone is capable of doing it on it's own. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. First time posting, hope I did all correctly.
I'm running 11.0.0.1.1 IN11AA
TLDR: I connect to my drone through access point to stream video and need to use cellular data at the same time.

Hi there
You explained it perfectly, I know what you mean.
Can you create a hotspot with your phone and connect your drone to that?
Your internet connection will still work?
Or is it one way only?
How do other users of drones get around this?
Seems like a huge ballache.

No, the drone itself creates a hotspot that you have to connect to I'm order to stream. Again, I've been able to do this before without having to tunnel or anything but I can't seem to get it to work now. Typically the phone will try to attain an internet connection however possible. If one source doesn't supply it, it tends to use others but I'm this case, it just remains offline. Thanks for the great response, I tried to go all routes other than creating yet another post but I've exhausted all options I can think of.

I think there is a setting in "Developer options" that should solve your issue...
1. activate developer options (Settings->About Phone->Tap "Build number" until it says "Developer options enabled" - it may be you need to enter your device PIN to activate this)
2. navigate to Settings->System-Developer Options and search for the entry "Always activate mobile data" and toggle this to ON
Please note I am using a German language setting, so maybe the entries in English are marginally differing from what I wrote...

s3axel said:
I think there is a setting in "Developer options" that should solve your issue...
1. activate developer options (Settings->About Phone->Tap "Build number" until it says "Developer options enabled" - it may be you need to enter your device PIN to activate this)
2. navigate to Settings->System-Developer Options and search for the entry "Always activate mobile data" and toggle this to ON
Please note I am using a German language setting, so maybe the entries in English are marginally differing from what I wrote...
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Thank you for your response but I already have this seeing enabled and it still doesn't work.

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Is there a way to force WiFi only?

I have free unlimited data for a few months, but when it is over I would like my phone to never connect to the internet through the carrier unless I specifically tell it to (Prefer to use the WiFi feature). Is there a setting, registry hack or other way that I can do this. I appologize if this is not a mogul specific question, I just figured it would be hardware specific.
yeah, there are a few free programs i've found on on xda that allow you to disable the gprs, etc... then all you have to do flick on your wifi switch and you're good to go.
I've attached a copy of the program that i personally use. I found it on this site but i don't have a clue what thread it was....
what i've done is after installing the program i set the "voice dail" button on my phone to activate the NoData program instead. Then i can easily toggle off the services i wish to use.... keeping them turned off also increases your battery life tremendously
Thanks for the reply. I tried that app, the connection that came up was CDMA1X so I disbled it, and then went to internet explorer it still browsed the web without a wifi connection, so I assume this didn't work.
Do you have sprint? If so, I'm not sure why you're phone would have a different setup than mine. When using that program i have two listings come up: 1. Phone as Modem, 2. Sprint PCS.
If i disable both i get only wifi.
thanks
I have Telus in Canada.
jjlwork said:
I have Telus in Canada.
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ok i just played around with my phone a little more and have one other idea.
begin by tapping: start>settings>connections tab>connections>manage existing connections
select one of the options in the list and then tap the "proxy settings" tab.
uncheck the box "This network connects to the internet".
Repeat for each connection.
Hopefully this will solve your problem
I tried that too, unfortunately when I close the connections settings and go back in the check mark is back.
Hi, I'm not sure if you have solved this problem already but, somehow I did. I went to manage existing connections and assign a username and password . So now whenever, it tries to connect on the dial up (cdma1x), it prompts for a password, just press "cancel". I also have some programs for different home screens and contacts manager if you're interested.
YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! This program has allowed me to kill all apps from using the data connection which lets USB Modem actually WORK on my Mogul! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

Wifi & Data Connection

Hi,
Anyone know if there is any setting that disables data connection automatically switch on?
I find it quite annoying at some point, i was using wifi to surf the net as well as having window live messenger on. But once i dc-ed from wifi (it auto reconnect back to access point) and the data connection automatically switch on (cost money for data connection), which i don't want it to happen.
Please assist, thank you.
seriously bro...............
use the search feature
you can find it on top. In "search by keywords" type "data connection"
select "search titles only"
in the forum list select blackstone {i presume you have blackstone}
hit search
click on the post closest to your issue
tada
read................
if you still can't find any solution to your problem then post your question
Souma said:
Hi,
Anyone know if there is any setting that disables data connection automatically switch on?
I find it quite annoying at some point, i was using wifi to surf the net as well as having window live messenger on. But once i dc-ed from wifi (it auto reconnect back to access point) and the data connection automatically switch on (cost money for data connection), which i don't want it to happen.
Please assist, thank you.
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You can also download HD Tweak it allows you to do this, also check what your email etc settings are as It shouldnt connect unless it needs to
Opps~! my bad fellow gurus
I guess the search sure is useful.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Good day gentlemen!
Automatically?
I'm very lazy so is there a solution to automatically block the data-connection while using wifi?
Or maybe you can tell me how to detect wifi being turned on so i can write my own program...
Thanks

Is there an app to make it easier to connect to chosen wifi network?

I've just acquired an HTC Wizard and am just in the process of figuring it out. I downloaded AirSniffer and Wififofum and have run these programs in several places where there are free wireless access points. However, the 'Settings' part of Windows Mobile seems to be a bit clumsy when it comes to choosing and connecting to a network when there are several available. It seems to require me to set up each connection individually, and to state whether the new connection connects me to Work or The Internet. It won't allow you to enter the name of the SSID manually under settings, and choose a channel. So, connecting to free wireless seems awkward and out of my control as I just have to wait for the phone to do it, and then go through the Settings dialogue.
I was wondering, is there a neat app available that makes this process easier? Something that will let me choose from the list, or even just let me enter SSID and channel and WEP details (as discovered using Wififofum) and then connect to the relevant network?
Thanks
I use a program called wifi monster and it's great!
try it out.

Data Connection and setting Wifi preference?

Hey guys
I'm a big time noob, and the HD2 is a complete marvel for me, its my first WM device and I'm learning alot thats for sure. If there is an obvious solution, apologies in advance
I've been looking around the forums and googling for answers, but still unsure about the data connection and wifi settings in the HD2, and have spent the last few days checking the connection status/settings. Sometimes I find that the WiFi and/or Data Connection ON/OFF toggle section is greyed out in Settings, no idea why as I haven't been able to find a real reason. Could anyone please explain why this may be the case?
Ideally I'd like the WiFi to be the preferred internet access mode, but I'm not sure what my phone is using when I access online content. I can see the wireless is connected, but how can I be sure its definitely using it? I can check the notifications that I'm connected, but I'm also seeing a connection to "Contract Internet" which is normally on H with full bars.
On my previous phone a Nokia N95 8gb (nothing compared to HD2 bar the camera ) whenever I wanted to go online, I had it set to "ask" what connection to use, e.g. I had a list of connections such as Vodadafone Contract (3G/GPRS) or from a list of my defined WiFi connections.
Is there something similar somewhere in the HD2 settings that would "ask" what kind of connection to use? It would be great if someone could let me know.
Sorry to be a pest, but anyone?
Hi there. I'm not an expert myself and HD2 is my first Windows Mobile device as well. I'll try and help, because I spent some time looking for answer on that particular subject. Let's go through this point by point.
(1) You have to understand the notification icons that appear on the topbar. Download the official user manual here and look for pages 39-40. These notifications are realtime, thus more precise than the Comm Manager.
(2) Let's be clear: the word "data connections" that appear in the Comm Manager only refer to the internet connections using 2G (GPRS or EDGE) or 3G (UMTS or HPSDA), not Wifi. So it won't toggle on, even when your wifi connection is up and running.
(3) A lot applications use your internet connection (Data or Wifi), even when the phone is in sleep mode (weather updates, stocks updates etc).
(4) About the following question: I'm not sure what my phone is using when I access online content. I'll tell you the way it works on my phone. Still, you'll need aswers of other people as well. You have to consider different situations.
- If no internet connection is on (no wifi, no data) and an application need to access internet (ex: Eutomatic updates or Opera browser), then the phone will open a data connection (2G or 3G). If it doesn't succeed, you'll get an error message.
- If wifi is already on and connected, but data connection is off, the applications will use the wifi connection. Unlike data connection, the applications are not able to "force wifi connection" if it's not already connected... I don't know if there is a setting or a tweak to change this.
(5) Unfortunately, I already experienced some application that "force" the opening of data connections, even with wifi on and connected. That's why I disable every automatic updates. I only do manual updates... and it "obeys", meaning that updates use the wifi when I'm connected, and force data connection when wifi is not available. I tried some complex (freewares) softwares like WMLongLife (found here) because I wanted the data connection to disconnect automatically after an updates (manual or automatic), but they were not very handy. The latest I tried gave me the best results. It's called Bandswitch 0.3 (found here). It works great in doing just that: automatic data disconnection after idle delay you choose.
(6) Is there something similar somewhere in the HD2 settings that would "ask" what kind of connection to use? I'm not absolety sure, but you could try to reach this settings. Follow this path: Windows icon -> Start menu -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections (yes, once again) -> Go to the tab called "Advanced" -> Click on the button "select networks". Here you can find what program which network programs must automaticaly use. You'll be able to see the 2G/3G network, but I'm not sure what you should choose to enable WIFI connection... Tell me if you find!
That's it folk. Cheers.
Sorry for a short answer, but Wifi will always be grayed out when your hooked up to your pc, I didnt notice it at first either so dont be embaressed
(subscribed to the thread because I think something that would let you pick your connection type would be ace)
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Sorry for a short answer, but Wifi will always be grayed out when your hooked up to your pc, I didnt notice it at first either so dont be embaressed
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I also noticed this, but yesterday I found an option in Activesync windows mobile device centre on my PC by accident. It says "disable data connection on phone when connected to PC"
If you untick this box you can connect to wifi and GPRS/HSDPA all whilst still connected to the PC through usb!
Elmo-85 said:
I also noticed this, but yesterday I found an option in Activesync windows mobile device centre on my PC by accident. It says "disable data connection on phone when connected to PC"
If you untick this box you can connect to wifi and GPRS/HSDPA all whilst still connected to the PC through usb!
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I guess you'd wanna do that only if your PC is not connected already to the internet... which is rare...
Because your device is automatically connected to the network your laptop/pc is currently connected to.
lovanova said:
I guess you'd wanna do that only if your PC is not connected already to the internet... which is rare...
Because your device is automatically connected to the network your laptop/pc is currently connected to.
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Yes it's strange isnt it. I cant think why it is necessary really to change this option
I just thought I would let you know incase you wondered !!
Thanks rzasharp and [★], things are clearer now.
lovanova said:
I guess you'd wanna do that only if your PC is not connected already to the internet... which is rare...
Because your device is automatically connected to the network your laptop/pc is currently connected to.
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Elmo-85 said:
Yes it's strange isnt it. I cant think why it is necessary really to change this option
I just thought I would let you know incase you wondered !!
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If your computer uses a proxy server to connect to the internet, your phone doesn't assume the same identity as your PC. At work I can't use the PCs internet connection on my phone when I connect via ActiveSync, but my phone charges and I can browse it in file explorer.
That's one reason why you'd want to do it

My HD2 is harassing me with UMTS

Hello,
I just bought a Leo. My provider is Vodafone IT.
From the very first moment, while WiFi is present in my house, the phone tried to connect to Internet via UMTS. It does so often when Wifi is temporarily unavailable.
After my old Glofiish M800, one year ago, made me spend 3€ for two consecutive connections for the duration of a half second each (1.50€ on connection then) I requested Vodafone to completely disable Internet access for my SIM card. All I did then was to connect the PDA to USB cable and SPB Weather immediately tried to update weather without even waiting for Net via ActiveSync to become available in a few seconds.
With Leo, I also deleted all network access points from configuration, set all profiles to Office Network and unchecked (my ROM is Italian) "This connection has Internet access" "Questa connessione dispone di accesso a Internet".
What occurs now is that often, but really OFTEN, even during the night, especially when I'm on the road and I'm not interested in Facebook, YouTube or weather, the phone turns on and two popup appear:
One as a notification "Called: " (before deleting AP "Called: web.omnitel.it" "Chiamata effettuata: web.omnitel.it"). The other as error message about problems with GPRS.
I also have to pay great attention to the second popup. Once, but fortunately not today, it went over the lock screen and I was unable to unlock it as the slider was below the popup. I was also unable to close the popup as the screen was locked so I had to soft-reset.
I only installed TomTom and Core Player for now.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY VODAFONE LOTS OF MONEY FOR UMTS ACCESS WITHOUT MY CONSENT, NOR SIGN UP FOR FLAT PLANS AS I HAVE WIRELESS ACCESS IN EVERY PLACE I USUALLY GO!!!
Can somebody help me tell Leo to NEVER TRY to use UMTS? I had to agree with Vodafone that I would have been unable to even send MMSs and perform videocalls until I restore UMTS, but I can't spend this huge money for the sake of weather and for greedy (it's the right word) software that just want to connect to the Internet whenever THEY want (ie. Windows Vista/7 does Windows Update only when Internet is detected, it never tries to connect until you do manually).
Thank you. Please anser me ASAP. If I don't find a solution, I will return the PDA to the seller (it's a great PDA, I wouldn't like to)
settings menu all settings connections connections advanced tab select networks change the top drop down to "my work network"
hope it helps!
Hi, I followed what you suggested and, in order to test faster, I tried to manually update weather from HTC Sense.
First of all, even if I uncheck the Internet access checbox from Office Network ("My work network" you mentioned), I always see it comes back again. I found that "ISP settings" only shows two tabs, and no Internet/proxy checkbox, so I also tested selecting this connection.
I also entered "*" as list of intranet addresses.
Every time I try to update weather, for all of these tests, I see the 3G arrows on top of notification bar flashing for a couple of seconds and the same exact alerts
Does your phone always connect to 3G?
[EDIT] I also tested http://www.htc.com/au/faqs.aspx?p_id=297&cat=264&id=118112, no result. But actually the help page says it clearly: it's normal that the phone will notice errors.
Is there any registry tweak or what?
Hello,
To solve your problem, go to the redfrogfish website, google to find the link. Download and install the Data Controller cab.This enables you to turn on/off the data connection function of the HD2
(I wanted to give you the link, but I am a new user and not allowed to do so)
Good Luck
djechelon said:
Hi, I followed what you suggested and, in order to test faster, I tried to manually update weather from HTC Sense.
First of all, even if I uncheck the Internet access checbox from Office Network ("My work network" you mentioned), I always see it comes back again. I found that "ISP settings" only shows two tabs, and no Internet/proxy checkbox, so I also tested selecting this connection.
I also entered "*" as list of intranet addresses.
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I think you are going further into the settings than i need to.
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connections - switch to advanced tab - click 'select networks'
See my image 1 - setting the top dropdown to 'my work network' (or 'the internet', it gets called slightly diff thing depending on your setup, ,)) means it will look for whatever active connection is available and use that.
I also have a commmanager that has seperate on/off toggles for 3g and data.(see pic 2) So, if i turn off data connection, but leave 3g on, even though i have 3g (well, H) showing available on the top bar, if i go to update the weather it comes up with 'connection error'. If i start opera, it fails, etc etc.
Back into comm manager., turn back on the data toggle, everything works again.
If i turn off 3g, and leave data off, I get the same results.
paulmor said:
Hello,
To solve your problem, go to the redfrogfish website, google to find the link. Download and install the Data Controller cab.This enables you to turn on/off the data connection function of the HD2
(I wanted to give you the link, but I am a new user and not allowed to do so)
Good Luck
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Thank you!
It did solve my problem
Here is the link you couldn't post, as it can be useful to the community:
http://redfrogfish.com/data-controller/
Thanks for the link, had a same problem which is solved now running this program.

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