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Whats up with the roms lately?

I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?

This is the wrong section, the General section would be the appropriate section for this.

this should be in general, but i agree it seems that lots of roms out there are just customizations of existing roms, a color change here and there. There really isnt anything major to differentiate between sense roms, except for 3 or 4 big ones, and then there is CM rom, and the roms based of CM seem like just themed version of CM, but who knows i mean im not a developer, maybe theres only so much one can do as far as development.

easedrop said:
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The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
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Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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Better get started developing.

What else do you want the ROM's out there to do?:
OC: Check
Undervolt: Check
AOSP Builds: Check
Open Source 4G: Check
De-odex: Check
Wide Variety of Themes: Check
Open Source FM Radio: Check
Wireless Tether: Check
Wired Tether: Check
Gingerbread: Check
AND THE LIST GOES ON...
What I'm trying to say is, unless your speaking specifically about HDMI, there's really not a lot left to be desired that can't be had from these phones until Honeycomb hits.
I mean, CM even supports SIP accounts natively...among the millions of other small details that are so amazing.
Even DLNA can be had through a simple app...what's left for you to want so badly that your phone cannot do already?
My point is, is that most devs are not going start over from scratch just for the heck of it, when something so close to optimum potential has already been reached.
Sent from my 4G-Toting, Lightning Smoking, Gingerfied, Cyanogenmodded EVO: Please stand back!

Itotally disagree. I mean, some, yeah, you're right, but look at the mods done to the more popular roms. Not just theming but tweaks, custome apps, etc.
What more do you want form a ROM?
And while, true, some people are married to CM, some are more into Senseui, some Miui.
Everyone has different tastes, and from what I se eon here, there's something for just about everyone.

Thread moved to General.
As per your questions, devs make roms based on their personal taste and, in many cases, general feedback from the users. There are many plain, stock rooted roms out there, and many tutorials in case you want to make your own as well. Also, you can easily theme any rom to your liking. I hope this answers your concern.

i think the ROM's on the evo are pretty strong. My criteria is, do the majority if not all ROM's improve upon stock? Yes. Do the majority if not all the dev's support their ROM's and upgrade in a timely manner? Yes Do the majority if not all the dev's have themes/mods available for their ROMS? Yes. Are there more than one style of ROM's to choose? YES 1. Sense 2. AOSP - MIUI 3. AOSP - CM 4. AOSP - Liquid metal

easedrop said:
I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
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There are way more. Click my signature and you'll see
my EVO is way cooler than yours

Except your link is broken...

easedrop said:
Am I missing something?
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Yes. MIUI.

the OP ... is expectiong way too much....
you do relize for most.. this is a good little hobby..
so is done around free time...
you want more... you do it! I dont have the skills to even try.
I do appreciate the ones that can... and do.
there are a lot of phones out in the market. and not all phones even have a dev community.. and if they do, it aint that big.
so there are different levels of dev support from phone to phone.
EVO, is way up there in the level of quality devs and community support.

Fixed my sig, forgot i changed the link. But there are a Sh*t ton of choices, my count is at 144 thus far

_MetalHead_ said:
Yes. MIUI.
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+1... this.

I've had 4 Android phones:
Evo
G2
MyTouch 3g Slide
Moto Cliq
This forum has more roms, kernels, mods, themes, etc than all 3 of my prior phones combined. Every time I hit the dev section I'm a kid in the candy store. There's fully functioning roms that work with everything and a few that I'm excited to see get better, like MIUI getting 4g.
There's very few phones out there with this much dev support, my friend has an LG vortex. Go find the LG vortex section of the forums. They don't exist.
My point, you have to do some digging but there's something here for everyone. If there isn't, make it! We could always use another dev to try to topple the big dogs.

[Q] COMPLETELY Bugless ROM?

Hi, simple question really, and shouldn't be too hard to answer for all you flashaholics out there !
All I want, is a completely bugless custom ROM, not bothered about much else. For me customisation etc comes last, bugs is my main priority.
As I always think I've found a good ROM, read into it and see an array of issues ranging from Faulty Wifi to Gyro's not working etc.
Thanks in advanced !

All software has bugs. Doesn't matter who makes it. It's not just features that get added with incremental OS updates. Contains more bugfixes than features in most situations.

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All software has bugs. Doesn't matter who makes it. It's not just features that get added with incremental OS updates. Contains more bugfixes than features in most situations.
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I don't think this is generally true, obviously software has glitches, that aren't necessarily bugs. I'm talking bug's that effect the devices performance and overall scope of technology.
Hense I stated stuff such as Data connections not working, Gyro's being broken, SOD's and what not.
I want a nice, smooth bugless ROM, can't be too much to ask?
Most bug's from the devs here come from trying to add to much (IMO) whereas I just want a clean, simple and bugless ROM to use as my daily driver.
For now, I think I'll stick with Stock unless I get some recommendations !

Xda devs push the bounds of these android builds beyond where they were meant to go. That entails adding bits and pieces of code that may add some bugs to the software while delivering unique abilities to the OS. Its a tradeoff so yes, I think asking for a bug less ROM that isn't stock is to much to ask. I think asking for anything is asking to much in fact. These devs do this in their free time and to complain and or lament about their efforts not being good enough is exactly the opposite of what XDA is founded upon. If you want something that "just works" then buy an iPad or go back to stock jellybean. This is a development website, if that fundamental point is going over your head then you need to find your kicks elsewhere.
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johnrippa said:
Xda devs push the bounds of these android builds beyond where they were meant to go. That entails adding bits and pieces of code that may add some bugs to the software while delivering unique abilities to the OS. Its a tradeoff so yes, I think asking for a bug less ROM that isn't stock is to much to ask. I think asking for anything is asking to much in fact. These devs do this in their free time and to complain and or lament about their efforts not being good enough is exactly the opposite of what XDA is founded upon. If you want something that "just works" then buy an iPad or go back to stock jellybean. This is a development website, if that fundamental point is going over your head then you need to find your kicks elsewhere.
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You've totally mislaid the point, I'm not complaining about the current ROM's out their as yes, like you said they push the boundaries which could cause bug's.
Asking for a bugless customer ROM isn't to much to ask for at all mate, and you clearly don't check enough of this forum, as for example on the HOX their are a couple of custom ROM's, like the Stock with no bug's but speed and performance enhancements.
I think you need to read and digest what I have already written, as I think you'll find you've taken this right out of context.
Who are you my Dad?

Wilks3y said:
Hi, simple question really, and shouldn't be too hard to answer for all you flashaholics out there !
All I want, is a completely bugless custom ROM, not bothered about much else. For me customisation etc comes last, bugs is my main priority.
As I always think I've found a good ROM, read into it and see an array of issues ranging from Faulty Wifi to Gyro's not working etc.
Thanks in advanced !
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If your primary concern is having the fewest amount of bugs (yes there are always bugs in software, some more obvious than others) then stick with stock Android on your Nexus 7. This is not a slam against any developers or distros, it is just the simple reality that comes from the fact that Google pays people to work on Android, and other developers work on their roms in their personal time. In the end, it's all personal choice and what works for me may not be what's best for you.

comminus said:
If your primary concern is having the fewest amount of bugs (yes there are always bugs in software, some more obvious than others) then stick with stock Android on your Nexus 7. This is not a slam against any developers or distros, it is just the simple reality that comes from the fact that Google pays people to work on Android, and other developers work on their roms in their personal time. In the end, it's all personal choice and what works for me may not be what's best for you.
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Im in the same boat with you, I think the dev's here are brilliant, and really should be appreciated for their work. I am not mocking/having a go or anything else along those lines.
MaXimus ROM for HOX is better than stock, with no bug's and great performance boost etc.
All I wanted to know was, does one exist for the Nexus, sheesh kebab !

I am using eclipse build 3 and nitro provides a nice combination of customization and stability. Nitro is known to provide a very stable rom always easy to make a back up and try a new rom. You can always find the latest for eclipse on eclipserom.com
Hope this helps I was a flashaholic until I started using eclipse. Nitro also provides his own kernel and has been running great for me

Care to link me mate?
And thanks for a USEFUL reply.

obviously ur definition of "bugs" is different from the majority of people here..
i have yet to run into a "bugless" rom myself.. if u think any rom is "bugless", its probably that u have not used it thoroughly enough..
the only way to get an answer to ur question is to try out all those custom ROMs urself, and select the one with the least, or according to ur definition, no "bugs"..
another useless answer.. i know.. just like the question itself..

http://eclipserom.com/vforum/showth...ouper-Build-3-Welcome-to-the-Dark!!-(10-27-12)
Just make sure to make a nano back up before flashing that way if you do not like you can always go back. Happy flashing
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I have not ran bug less beast ROM on my n7 but it was very stable also on my gnex. Just a clean stock feel with some small changes. I like eclipse because of the stability and customization. But if eclipse is not for you try another that's the great thing about having a nexus don't like it just restore your stock back up.

Wilks3y said:
Im in the same boat with you, I think the dev's here are brilliant, and really should be appreciated for their work. I am not mocking/having a go or anything else along those lines.
MaXimus ROM for HOX is better than stock, with no bug's and great performance boost etc.
All I wanted to know was, does one exist for the Nexus, sheesh kebab !
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Yes. Stock. 'nuff said.
Rootbrain

Bugless pete. Clue is in te name.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Currently using....
Eclipse and Rasbeanjelly without all the issues some seem to encounter on a routine basis. There are just way to many variables for me just not to flash and monitor how my tablet performs. Of all the ROMs I've tried I find I rarely encounter the amount or severity of issues being discussed. Maybe I'm just not what many here would consider a power user, but my use of my laptop and netbook have decreased dramatically! :laugh:

Oxygen OS review by some dude

Hello everyone.
The much awaited OS that no one really waited for is finally here. If you don't know what I'm talking about then let me clue you in. OxygenOS is known for being developed by Oneplus... Isn't that it?... Ohh yeah its also known for being closed source, featureless, 'not wait worthy', over hyped, bugged and not being great.
It will seem sooo good when you compare it with the ROMs by other OEMs (or maybe when you ask some noobs) but when you are used to the wonderful development by the Oneplus community its just like any other non-advertised ROM that no one uses .
Beware : Some people may tell you to appreciate the effort and to accept it for what it is but how can you do that when your daily driver is a build by the Blisspop Team or Teamsek or Mahdi (just to name a few). They may also tell you to install other mods and Xposed for customizing the ROM but isn't that settling?
Oneplus' logo is Never Settle but OxygenOS didn't even get me startled. The only glamorous things about the OS were the hyped PA developers team and making people wait so that they want it more and also how can you forget the full Gapps package that people call bloat.
The OS is pretty normal and should had been released a long time ago and of course they apologized for that and happily gave away 5 phones thus again winning sympathy points. (Yay for Oneplus).
I don't intend to criticize Oneplus. I love their product and hence gave my money to them . I also have confidence in their future products. What I and lot of other folks hate is over hyping things that aren't that great and then making people believe that it is.
And yes obviously i will keep OxygenOS as one of those ROMs in MultiROM which i will nevver use.
Thanks for reading and do voice your opinion.
Something magical happened on 4/4/15. One of the best ROMs i.e. OxygenOS was released on that day. The following features make it the bomb :-
1) Clean and simple UI and also lightweight at 715 MB
2) Gives the pleasure of owning a stock Nexus device and making people forget why they bought the Oneplus One
3) Gives some people the ability to develop it even though its not open source
4) Full Gapps package pre-included so that nobody has to go through the trouble of flashing the Mini Gapps package.
5) Was stress tested and OTAed for 4-5 months and thus is very stable and gives great performance and also OTA
6)And the best thing is that these 6 features are enough to make it the best.
Do you love OxygenOS? Then share your good experiences below.

It pretty sums it up what a lot of peoples(and i) think!Great writing overall!

dragoi90 said:
It pretty sums it up what a lot of peoples(and i) think!Great writing overall!
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I was just really surprised to see all the good reviews that OxygenOS got.

A lot of noobies out there my friend! [emoji14]

some people like a stock Google experience without all the tweaks CM did. You're basically saying all Nexus and Google Experience devices suck because they have the same OxygenOS feel too. To each their own.
I will say that I do miss some features that CM11S had but I do like the ability to change my phone with tweaks how I want it too.
btw, not a noob.

Actually. I've used pretty much all the other ones including Bliss and Temasek. I settled on Temasek as it was the most stable, best battery life and great performance. I have been using it for about three months now. I will say that Oxygen so far has exceeded my expectation and has been great. I will stick to it for now and see how it functions as a daily driver. However, so far I'm impressed.

Oxygen could be a great base for developers like clean Nexus. Would be awesome.

Meuuks13 said:
And yes obviously i will keep OxygenOS as one of those ROMs in MultiROM which i will nevver use.
Thanks for reading and do voice your opinion.
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The install on this ROM is very quick. It's a light ROM, and I like that. It is quick with page to page changes and app loading. It is not a power-house ROM. If I want to have niceties on a ROM, I will install what I wish. This ROM feels more fluid than the stock KK ROMs. I plan on testing it out, as all of the functions are working for me just fine. It is not a feature laden ROM, never the less, it may fit for some.
OP, given the clear dislike you have for the company's lack of timely follow through with releases and the hype... I get that portion of your post and I agree. What I don't understand is why "keep OxygenOS as one of those ROMs in MultiROM which i will nevver use"? It sounds more like poetic expression than sensical. Free yourself, Never Settle.

Thunderbolt said:
Oxygen could be a great base for developers like clean Nexus. Would be awesome.
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Too bad it's not open source. Which also means I'll never use it, by the way.

Thunderbolt said:
Oxygen could be a great base for developers like clean Nexus. Would be awesome.
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OxygenOS is not open sourced.

I'm only going to say this once. Either keep to the topic at hand, or don't say anything at all. We can do without the flaming & name calling. The next instance I catch of either in this thread will call for an infraction to the offending party/parties, and I will close this thread.
Magnum_Enforcer
FSM

Its stable that is good enough for me....
But when its about companys own os then there must be like touchwiz sense miui then u will stand in competition between general public which dont know about boot loader recovery root.
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Just like any other OEM they dony open sourced their own work. Oxy is more like Nexus type.

DrearierJester1 said:
Just like any other OEM they dony open sourced their own work. Oxy is more like Nexus type.
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Except that the Nexus stock roms are practically open source (or at least a large part of them are) plus a few closed source add-ons, just like CM11S.

caronaakk said:
Its stable that is good enough for me....
But when its about companys own os then there must be like touchwiz sense miui then u will stand in competition between general public which dont know about boot loader recovery root.
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Its not stable, there are about 7 bugs.

gondsman said:
Except that the Nexus stock roms are practically open source (or at least a large part of them are) plus a few closed source add-ons, just like CM11S.
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Right at the point.

Meuuks13 said:
Its not stable, there are about 7 bugs.
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Bugs don't make a ROM unstable. It's unstable when there are problems like random reboots and FCs caused by the ROM itself, not user setup or installed apps. OxygenOS is in fact stable.

CafeKampuchia said:
Bugs don't make a ROM unstable. It's unstable when there are problems like random reboots and FCs caused by the ROM itself, not user setup or installed apps. OxygenOS is in fact stable.
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Bugs don't make a ROM unstable? Last time i checked random reboots and FCs were caused by bugs.

Meuuks13 said:
Bugs don't make a ROM unstable? Last time i checked random reboots and FCs are caused by bugs.
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Is that what you were talking about in the OP? If so, then it's not clear. What is clear is that OxygenOS runs fast, smooth and stable for most people, but it has minor bugs that don't cause instability, and it's feature list is short.

CafeKampuchia said:
Is that what you were talking about in the OP? If so, then it's not clear. What is clear is that OxygenOS runs fast, smooth and stable for most people, but it has minor bugs that don't cause instability, and it's feature list is short.
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In other words its just an ordinary ROM which was hyped for greatness There are a lot of simple ROMs like this and adding one more doesn't help

Changing ROM from xXx. Need help deciding.

Hi folks,
I want to change my ROM from xXx to another one, because xXx doesn't feel as fast as it used to be. And I wantto try another one. What ROM would you suggest? Which ROMS are considered popular, fast, stable andwith good support and user base? Thanks for helpimg me deciding, I want to narrow it down to 2 - 3 alternative ROMS to xXx mad try them and decide which suits me most.
Notice
please do not hate me for another topic which may seem dumb to you. I have been reading XDA Developers daily since I got my android (I started with HTC HD2, heh). I know there is no correct answer to my question and I believe most of you will reply something like " don't ask, just try" or "it is stupid question" or "go to other forum in this section, because we want to trashtalk you there".
I know that most of the users here on XDA are helpful, and so am I - I try to give advices to others whenever I think hadI experienced and solved any problem that other users might have had. But sadly there is also the loud minority of users that instead of helping others just replies something like "RTFM" (in better case). So, if You are this kind of people, please do not answer.Yes, I googled. Yeas, I read comparisons< just want to hear yout tips etc..
Thanks, folks!

Since owning my OP5, I have tried the following roms:
Freedom OS
then tired
xXx (for many months)
But recently, i'm now on
AquariOS 8.1.0 https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...om-aquarios-8-1-0-live-support-volte-t3768515

For me it’s d.u the most stable rom and aicp just after.

Have you considered that the setup on your phone and not just the ROM could also affect performance? What kernel and settings do you have? What other mods and tweaks do you use?

L22EEW said:
Since owning my OP5, I have tried the following roms:
Freedom OS
then tired
xXx (for many months)
But recently, i'm now on
AquariOS 8.1.0 https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...om-aquarios-8-1-0-live-support-volte-t3768515
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I would love to use AquariOS also .. But when I tried it I ended getting reboots always when using portable hotspot so that was a deal breaker for me .. Which version you are?
Also Im coming from xXx and now using aosp extended .. rather would use AquariOS

Why not try resurrection remix? I'm using it ever since 7.2 and it's amazing

I was on OOS until a few weeks ago. I tried a few custom ROMs, but crDroid seems to take the cake for me. It's pretty stable, has nice features, it's just great overall. I suggest giving it a try.

Revenant Ghost said:
Have you considered that the setup on your phone and not just the ROM could also affect performance? What kernel and settings do you have? What other mods and tweaks do you use?
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I am using blu_spark kernel, but with xXx ROM I am fed up with every other version there is a bug which makes me spent few hours figuring how to even boot the phone :/

Go for codename Phoenix. You can use camera m with all features working. It's also pretty smooth and gets updated often.

hhadi said:
Go for codename Phoenix. You can use camera m with all features working. It's also pretty smooth and gets updated often.
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Thanks, will try.
I tried AquariOS, but the ROM is not ready for encrypted phones and has battery-related issues, despite being super beautiful and ultra fast. So I came back to xXx, this time to 10.3 version. But I will try other roms, so I can post updates here if anyone is interested.
Yet I must say I hoped for far larger number of people giving their thoughts, when I see how many users downloads and uses custom ROMS, as well as how many discuss threads.
Anyway, thank y'all!

I was on xXx for many months. Today am gonna try the Ressurection Remix (the GSI one) since project Treble is ported to our phone!

Just bought this phone - What can I expect?

Hi.
I picked up a 6p for £30. It needs new volume buttons so I may as well change the battery while I'm fixing the buttons.
I'm back into flashing again after a period with Huawei phones.
Is development pretty good on this device? Can you recommend any ROMs that are super stable and have GPS?
Cheers.

problems...
some of the best roms are, AICP (weekly releases, full functions) and personally I like Resurrection Remix 7.2 both are Android 9 based and can't go wrong with em imo. These come highly customizable out of the box if that's your thing, or if your more into the stock-like "pixel experience" there is Pixel Experience rom with versions based on either Android 10 or 9.

What are the problems?

I've been using the Nexus 6P since January 2016, and now it is a secondary phone for me. I love flashing ROMs and that's how I use this phone now. You shall try the Pixel experience ROM based on Android 10- https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3970525, I haven't been able to register fingerprints/ nexus imprint in this ROM rest is working just fine.
Now, coming to what you should expect, in phrase- 'A lot of lag and nostalgia'. The device is very slow when compared to present generation flagship devices, and it will be evident everywhere, no matter what you're using this devices for the Snapdragon 810 won't let you do it not without a few hiccups here and there. As much as I hate the sluggish performance of this device there is a lot of nostalgia associated with this device and the amount of support this device is getting is simply amazing for which almost every bit of credit goes to the XDA developers community.
So, you're welcome have fun flashing/ or doing whatever you choose to do with your device. ✌

xosinchan said:
Now, coming to what you should expect, in phrase- 'A lot of lag and nostalgia'. The device is very slow when compared to present generation flagship devices, and it will be evident everywhere, no matter what you're using this devices for the Snapdragon 810 won't let you do it not without a few hiccups here and there. As much as I hate the sluggish performance of this device there is a lot of nostalgia associated with this device and the amount of support this device is getting is simply amazing for which almost every bit of credit goes to the XDA developers community.
So, you're welcome have fun flashing/ or doing whatever you choose to do with your device. ✌
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I disagree with you.
The 6P can without difficulties keep up with devices that have been manufactured recent.
A comparison with a OnePlus 7 or the Google Pixel 4 is relatively pointless with a view of the technological achievements in this time.
The well-known hardware issues do not apply to every device, btw.
If you look up the price for an angler or the shamu for example, with regard to the specs is the performance definitely more than legitimate in 2020.
I paid for the angler 90 Euro in tip-top condition.The shamu cost roughly the same.
Compare those with newer devices and you have to remember which possibilities come within.
In regard to dozens of restrictions which have been implemented.Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung and surely others are a pain², mate.
The Nexus series has of all other brands/devices the most loyal and foremost diverse selection of customized roms, kernel, not to forget the variety of applicable options.
There are not many other phones with 4yrs mileage and those possibilities.
I could write much more about this topic, but everyone who is a long time Nexus user with the according interest in customization is usually well informed about this subject.
Beside the awful manta is the Nexus series still a very good choice. If you are in our scene you have to look up the specs, make yourself a picture beforehand. So the problems shouldn't be not surprising for someone who is informed.
The Nexus 5 cost used even today at least ~110 Euro.This is a good example for their value;not only for nostalgiac causes, but for a reliable device with limited specs..The release of the hammerhead was 2012, you know.Nexus 7 is or was the most ever sold tablet.
Perhaps the child manufactured iPads have reached those numbers yet, but iOS is with Microsofts attempt to break into the smartphone market, the worst OS resp piece of hardware I have witnessed, therefore are these attempts, at least for me, not of relevance.
Regards

Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
I picked up a 6p for £30. It needs new volume buttons so I may as well change the battery while I'm fixing the buttons.
I'm back into flashing again after a period with Huawei phones.
Is development pretty good on this device? Can you recommend any ROMs that are super stable and have GPS?
Cheers.
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I forgot to response yesterday..
The development is still ongoing, but personally wouldn't I recommend any kind of FBE/FDE based roms(mostly Android 9 and 10).
I use the device at the time with Aosip 8.1, which is very stable and quite good developed.
I would also recommend that you try a rom without any custom kernel for the first time(s)..
I have not best experiences with either of them.
At last would I highly recommend the Nougat roms like Uber, PureNexus..those are without doubt the most reliable.
I hope you have fun with the device.
To your question regarding GPS reliability, would I look into the Magisk repository.
They have a great module for maximizing the signal and receiver accuracy.
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UsPdSr said:
I forgot to response yesterday..
The development is still ongoing, but personally wouldn't I recommend any kind of FBE/FDE based roms(mostly Android 9 and 10).
I use the device at the time with Aosip 8.1, which is very stable and quite good developed.
I would also recommend that you try a rom without any custom kernel for the first time(s)..
I have not best experiences with either of them.
At last would I highly recommend the Nougat roms like Uber, PureNexus..those are without doubt the most reliable.
I hope you have fun with the device.
To your question regarding GPS reliability, would I look into the Magisk repository.
They have a great module for maximizing the signal and receiver accuracy.
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Thanks for the reply.
For the moment I have settled on stock 8.1 rooted. I am not sure how to flash some of the newer ROM's using FBE/FDE. Plus the newer ROM's seen to have quite a few issues regarding finger print etc.
I'll wait a while and then see how these ROM's are progressing.

Warren_Orange said:
Thanks for the reply.
For the moment I have settled on stock 8.1 rooted. I am not sure how to flash some of the newer ROM's using FBE/FDE. Plus the newer ROM's seen to have quite a few issues regarding finger print etc.
I'll wait a while and then see how these ROM's are progressing.
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Alright.
Just beware of these awful bash/.bat scripts by Google for the fastboot installation.
I don't know which distribution you use..in any case should you avoid the fastboot/adb package in Debian's distro, they contain some bugs.
If you use Linux(Ubuntu, Mint, Debian..), dkwnload the sdk package(solely the fastboot part!) and set the path by hand.
If you need any advice I am happy to help out when there is an issue.
Here you will find the GPS - Magisk module, which I mentioned earlier, btw - >
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/optmizedgpsconf
PS
I don't want to diminish the work of the remaining developer here and am quite interested, but this device was not made for Pie, let alone Q.
Stick with the factory rom, altough it's very bloated.
PureNexus is the thinner brother of stock..but it is best as inform yourself far as possible and decide what you want.