I got a copy of Android - I think its 1.6 - running on my laptop - and it seemed to work ok and be stable so I wanted to put it onto the machine permanantly.
Trouble is its decided that nothing else on the machine exists and I can't get back into vista whatever I try
It boots into something called grub loader and the only two options are the normal boot and a sort of safe mode - that lists drivers much like the old one for Windows 95/98 where you could y/n each one...
I really need help to get vista back again since there is stuff I really need like internet banking that I don't think I can do any other way (to be fair I have yet to try)
Thanks in advance
Jemma
Please tell me you partitioned off your hard drive before doing this?
If not then its a reinstall I guess, which isn't to bad as it allows you to install a decent copy of windows such as XP
That quite simply isn't an option - I was told that there is a way of solving it by using a windows CD or boot disk to reload the MBR - I was also told that the file running GRUB can be edited to find windows.
The problem is I don't have another machine and I am on state benefits - I need this computer up and running and I need access to my documents.
I can't seem to mount anything in android - and as the only option is 'format sd card' I don't really want to take it..
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
Jemmauk said:
That quite simply isn't an option - I was told that there is a way of solving it by using a windows CD or boot disk to reload the MBR - I was also told that the file running GRUB can be edited to find windows.
The problem is I don't have another machine and I am on state benefits - I need this computer up and running and I need access to my documents.
I can't seem to mount anything in android - and as the only option is 'format sd card' I don't really want to take it..
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
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Well thanks for the sob story but what does being on benefits have to do with anything?
Anyway simply set your pc bios to boot from cd first, insert disk and boot up. From there you will be asked do you want to install or repair. Choose repair.
I'm unsure of the next step because I don't use Vista *spits* but if you can get to recovery console then you can run fixmbr from the prompt and also there is a boot manager that can fix your boot sector.
Alternatively you could from a dos prompt delete the 1.6 folders and rewrite the msconfig to open windows only.
There is also the root of trying the f8 safe mode boot into admin account and rewrite the msconfig from with windows if accessible from f8 safe.
But hell I ain't anyone else but I guess my 24 years in the business of building custom machine and my extensive knowledge of windows xp and below means nowt? Maybe try being a little less dismissive next time hey?
Add me on gmail - [email protected] if you want me to help you sort it out faster than we can here
Did you create partitions before installing android? if not then windows doesnt exist anymore, which is why grub didnt automatically add it to the list of things to boot (mine always listed everything, but sometimes it doesnt do that automatically)
this happend to me to. I had to use I linux live cd to delete the linux partition. and fix the mbr.
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Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
UPDATE: 04/19/2015 -
While it is not a software hack, IT IS possible to unlock the navigation only portion of the MFT 8", if you have it without nav.
IF YOU DO THIS, YOUR CAR WARRANTY IS VOID. You've been warned.
It will cost a little money, but not set you back $1000 like nav tv and lockpick are charging. Maybe $100 or so.
Here is what you need to do, if you can't wait for us to unlock the bootloader.....
1 - Get a used APIM only part with the numbers DS7T in it. (aluminum only part with the fins, you DO NOT need the screen)
2 - Get the VIN# of the car it came out of and check the VIN to see if it was enabled with factory NAV. There are internet sites that will check the VIN for you. Must be a unit with NAV enabled.
http://researchmaniacs.com/VIN-Number-Lookup/WindowSticker/Ford.html
3. Install the APIM only to the back of your LCD.
4. The system will reboot and reset.
5. The system will them ask you to insert the NAV sd card, do that. (obviously, you have to buy a nav card from ebay as well, but those are $10)
6. Enjoy factory NAV for about $100
This is the only workaround for now. THE APIM is separate from the sync system and only interfaces with it. So, you will retain all your OEM VIN# locked stuff and it will survive reboots and updates. The nac actually just unlocks on that APIM portion, believe it or not. This method doesn't tie into the file system software, it merely accesses it.
Now.... if someone would be so kind as to just rip the NAND chip from one of those units and post it, so that we can just flash over our existing equipment, we can do this for FREE!!!!!!
Still working on the video bypass.... It would be nice if our Russian friends can start chiming in for that one please.....
DON"T FALL FOR THE EBAY GUY CHARGING $600 to $700 for this. Let's put him out of business.... Your help is needed.
PROPS TO rahrena8690 for the find.
WORKING FILE LINKS - FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY
Delayed Reboot project
https://mega.co.nz/#!m0BEWSrA!qrdgIRYTvccH52794ktdpRfrulI_pSdY3g-iiCyhaFs
awesome work
kthejoker20 said:
Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
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I have been wanting to get into this system since the day I got my truck. All ford has succeeded in doing is piss me off with "updates" that didn't amount to much. I would be happy if they would at least allow applink on the touch systems, as that would at least give us some options to add our own work.
I would love to help, but don't have much experience with "rooting", Windows CE, etc. But looking at what you have so far, I will offer some thoughts that came to mind:
It seems to me that you are working at the bootloader level, not the OS level. I may be way off here, but this could be why cmd won't work, as the OS is not loaded, so a traditional shell is not yet possible.
If you are indeed at the OS level, I wonder since you didn't get any errors when trying to launch cmd, if it was indeed actually running. I know on windows systems, if you manage to launch a process as "system", you typically can't interact with it (security issue). I don't know CE at all, but wonder if PsExec would work if it is launching your exe, but as system...
If it is executing your exe as system, perhaps a script or small app that writes some info about the system to a file on the usb drive would help. IE, have it list the folder structure for example.
I know we are not alone on people wanting to work on this. It looks to me that with Sync 3 dumping MSFT, we may be left in the dust with no further updates, although, this guy has found some signs that it might still get some useful updates:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Ford/comments/2rf2cc/ford_may_announce_updates_to_sync_gen2_myford/
Thanks
kthejoker20 said:
Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
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Thanks Pro. any new updates. Actually i just purchase Lincoln MKZ 2014, although i know it is hardware capable to run navigation since i get latitude and longitude, but unfortunately no navigation from the factory. i just play with My Lincoln Touch and on the sittings there is a tab for installing apps. so can we install and windows CE app?
Nothing yet.
Sync updates are rolled out every 6 months.
Rumor was that we are all getting blackberry upgrade from Microsoft.
Update is expected Feb 2015 or so.
We are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what Ford will do, before we start porting over. There may be no need for our work if we get port link to the new system. I think Ford is on our side, as they don't want us open sourcing the system and have to deal with warranty claims.
kthejoker20 said:
Nothing yet.
Sync updates are rolled out every 6 months.
Rumor was that we are all getting blackberry upgrade from Microsoft.
Update is expected Feb 2015 or so.
We are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what Ford will do, before we start porting over. There may be no need for our work if we get port link to the new system. I think Ford is on our side, as they don't want us open sourcing the system and have to deal with warranty claims.
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i don't think so. we will not get the QNX update. I think it is a different system with different architecture and requirements. but i hope they unlock the FMT or LMT so we can install any windows ce app.
Please don't reply to this thread with comments or requests.
I'd like to keep it clean to only development comments.
Based on what I'm reading around the page 26 mark (bootloaders section of the windows embedded 7 pdf), it sounds like we need to attempt to give the IPL boot arguments to get into update or development mode and from there we could have a chance of pushing our own files. I would think update mode looks for a signature but dev mode might let anything in.
Way ahead if you. The attached file has the signature. I was able to successfully run stacked commands by modifying the attached reboot file. Problem, the command doesn't stick on reboot.
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Way ahead if you. The attached file has the signature. I was able to successfully run stacked commands by modifying the attached reboot file. Problem, the command doesn't stick on reboot.
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So you were able to launch a command prompt via the delayed reboot zip? I wonder if it would be possible to hack a sync update and then use this to push it.
I need a zip please... I can induce an update no command prompt yet
I can only run commands stacked, but I need to run a script on the sync side, but I can't figure out how to push the script to the sync
kthejoker20 said:
I need a zip please... I can induce an update no command prompt yet
I can only run commands stacked, but I need to run a script on the sync side, but I can't figure out how to push the script to the sync
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This the latest myford touch update Gen2-V3.7.11
http://www.mediafire.com/?79v3d0d8972sy44
Here is the Delayed Reboot zip
http://outofmytouch.com/assets/delayed_reboot.zip
So some very quick looking tonight and I found EA5T-14D546-ATD contains the master patch. Decompiling some of the shockwave files I have found some interesting code. These would most likely be the files to hack to change factory behavior. Getting them flashed to a vehicle might be a whole other issue though.
Edit: After more browsing I think we need to target a master patch for an older version of Sync. I was looking at the master patch for the most current so there are going to be less files patched. I will have a peek at those later.
For some reason, the coalfire site took down it's information regarding the reverse shell of the infotainment system.
Here is what I am talking about with the command on the delayed reboot file. I have conveniently located the stacked command image and attached it for your viewing pleasure.
If we can patch the files, this is how we push them to the chip. Otherwise, I may have to PHYSICALLY pull the system files through JTAG tap... sigh... not really wanting to do that though...
If we can push them, we would have to unlock the bootloader to bypass the sigs... This is where my brain is staring to hurt....
Obviously, these commands do not apply to what we are doing, as that is QNX. Plus, I don't want any noobs spunking their system with our fashizzle yet...until we test it.
Just a final thought, as a plan B, we could reverse shell with the USB exploit as well... just saying.. might be easier
An integer overflow might work as well, but I have never experiemented on an embedded chip. Stacked command invoking an integer overflow, might give us write access to the system.
Has any thought gone into rewriting one of the dll's included in the latest patch to include some sort of backdoor? It seems it'd be easy (maybe I'm missing something here) to just modify the latest patch's install files to install our new dll.
I haven't had time yet, but I am going to try to USB otg pull.... I'm sure I can probably at least disable the vss lock.
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I haven't had time yet, but I am going to try to USB otg pull.... I'm sure I can probably at least disable the vss lock.
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When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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I think I answered one of the questions. From the PDF you posted "A Technical Companion..." it's a Freescale IMX35 processor.
freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=IMX35_FAMILY&cof=0&am=0
Looking forward to following the progress of this thread! I hope that you all will discover a new solution to our these outdated systems! Good luck guys, I am rooting for you!
duckboy81 said:
When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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I think I answered one of the questions. From the PDF you posted "A Technical Companion..." it's a Freescale IMX35 processor.
freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=IMX35_FAMILY&cof=0&am=0
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Actually I am pretty sure the MyFord Touch processor is an I.MX51 acccording to a Ford PDF I found. Unfortunately I am new to posting here and it won't let me post links.
I work on the almost identical I.MX53 processor at work doing Linux kernel, u-boot boot loader, and Linux application software, so I might be able to help.
Most of the I.MX processors have built in ROM code that allows booting to a USB or Serial downloaded mode. This allows loading any software you want into any RAM address and then booting from it. Then you run completely out of RAM (like a live CD). Depending on how Ford setup the I.MX51 e-fuse settings, there may be an external pin that could be used to enter this serial downloaded mode. Freescale provides a tool called the MfgTool to load software using the serial download mode. Then you could load Linux, Android, or whatever. The e-fuses also allow you to lock out JTAG, serial downloaded mode, and enable boot time signature checking, but I am not sure if Ford used any of these to lock the system down.
Do we know where the processor is located in the fusion?
my windows 10 PC start , sttings ,windows 10 apps not opening , edge browser shows class not registered
reset pc
Gokul Rajan said:
my windows 10 PC start , sttings ,windows 10 apps not opening , edge browser shows class not registered
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Since the only constructive response was "Reset your PC" without telling you how to do so even though you say "Settings and Windows 10 apps not opening", I will do that person one better and actually give you instructions for resetting.
Reboot your machine, at the login screen, instead of typing your password or PIN, hold shift and while holding shift press Restart from the Login screen (click the power button and choose Restart). Continue holding shift and it will bring you into the Windows Recovery Environment. Choose Troubleshooting, Reset This PC.
@ahmadus The user wouldn't be able to reset his PC without getting into Recovery Environment. As the Reset this PC function is exposed through the settings app that OP says does not open. In this case, the user may not know how to enter the Recovery Environment from alternative means. If you're going to provide help, actually provide constructive help.
@ShadowEO I thought reset pc is the easiest thing to do on windows 10.
ahmadus said:
@ShadowEO I thought reset pc is the easiest thing to do on windows 10.
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It is, but it's only easy if you can access the Recovery Environment to start the process. The good news is that you can start the process using a Windows 10 Installation disc (either USB or DVD) by choosing "Repair your computer" instead of "Install" when the installer starts up.
Latest Version
Try this version: http://www.softolite.com/windows-10-lite/
This is the official trial version with the latest build.
Wrong, you should ONLY download media from sources you trust, such as the official Windows 10 media creation tool or ISOs available at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10, THIS is the official URL to download Windows installation media. Also @CarlRock, all versions of Windows are trials until they're licensed, that blog is not the official source of ANYTHING Windows related.
You should also NEVER use a "lite" version of Windows unless you yourself built it, or you understand both what was removed and the consequences for removing that Windows component. Many users on the Windows subreddit go removing components without a full understanding of what they do or their full purpose in the OS, then come and complain that the system isn't working right.
Just use Windows as it was meant to be used. If you don't need a feature, don't configure it, or just plain don't use it. Dont just eviscerate it from the system without a thought to stability.